WR Jameson Williams, DET (3 Viewers)

[BobbyLayne]

more receiving yards (538) than:

• Tyreek Hill 523
• Devonta Smith 516
• Travis Kelce 507
• Marvin Harrison jr 499
• Deebo Samuel 490
• Cooper Kupp 488
• Davante Adams 487
• Rome Odunze 479
• DJ Moore 460
• Tank Dell 448
• Jaylen Waddle 404
• Amari Cooper 374
• Chris Olave 400
• Xavier Worthy 307

Jamo was being drafted behind every one of these guys.

Couldn't we also make a huge list of players he was drafted AHEAD of who are putting up more yards than him?

JSN
Ladd
Sutton
Mooney
Reed
Jennings
Meyers
Jeudy
Pierce
Shakir
Thomas

make a huge list of players he was drafted AHEAD of who are putting up more yards than him?

We could try.

Jamo's consensus in PPR redraft was WR50 per FantasyPros.

• Players drafted behind him (so not part of this exercise):
  
  61. Mooney (731)
  115. Jennings (684)
  58. Jeudy (645)
  99. Pierce (645(
  53. Shakir (629 - so, not part of this exercise for ADP or having more yards)

I had not anticipated this, but apparently challenge number 1 is identifying which WRs were drafted ahead of him and which WRs were drafted behind him. 6/11 (.545) doesn't seem like a great hit rate for baseline information.

• Players drafted ahead of him - my reasonable expectation is these players are putting up more yards than him
  
  37. JSN (829) 12 g
  45. Ladd (815) 12 g
  40. Sutton (744) 12 g less yards per game - 62.0
  38. Reed (693) 12 g less yards per game - 57.8
  48. Meyers (676) 10 g
  41. Thomas (765) 12 g

Awesome, 4/6.

From your "huge list" of 11 players drafted ahead of him who have more yards per game, we have identified 4. Or if we're feeling charitable, 6.

What was your point again?

He was going around WR45-50 and is WR35. He's been an above average value but not even close to what some posters in here had him at, and continue to have him at. There was talk of top 10 WR this year, and a WR2 being his floor. My point is he isn't and was never going to be a fantasy WR2 this year.

That was your point?

How would one discern that? Is clairvoyance involved? Because - jot this down- I cannot read minds.

One bad half of football and the Lions fans are grumpy.

Think it has more to do with 11 days of being at home with Covid. Far worse than my previous bout in April 2020. Been getting my *** kicked every day.

Anyway, I'm not the one who was pimping Jamo into the stratosphere. I know, you probably think all Lions fans look alike.

Hope you kick it soon and return to normal...along with Gibbs and Goff.

Agreed, you take was reasonable. I'm not going to rehash the thread, but their just aren't enough possessions to support all the talent in Detroit.

Yeah been a rough year for LaPorta owners. Partly due to nagging injuries, but the crazy thing is Sam is actually playing just as well as his rookie year. Just doesn't get anywhere close to the same opportunities. Combination of Jamo's uptick and the team running fewer plays / heavier ratio of running plays as compared to 2023.

 

[jon_mx]

4-118-1....not a bad first half.

 

[WaltonGoggins]

Thank you JAMO and GIBBS!

 

[Deamon]

4-118-1....not a bad first half.

Guess who's back... back again... Jon is back... tell a friend...

lol welcome back from your 3 week hiatus the moment Jamo finally has a big game.

Unfortunately for many of us, he was NOT 'one of the best WR2's" and didn't lead us to the playoffs, making this all irrelevant.

 

[jon_mx]

4-118-1....not a bad first half.

Guess who's back... back again... Jon is back... tell a friend...

lol welcome back from your 3 week hiatus the moment Jamo finally has a big game.

Unfortunately for many of us, he was NOT 'one of the best WR2's" and didn't lead us to the playoffs, making this all irrelevant.

Would you stop making it personal. Talk about football. Jamo is playing g great, much better than all the experts predicted. Every single one of them. Nothing wrong with Jamos production the last three weeks. He is on pace for overt 1000 yards.

 

[Faust]

Lions WR Jameson Williams catches 82-yard TD from Jared Goff

 

[Deamon]

4-118-1....not a bad first half.

Guess who's back... back again... Jon is back... tell a friend...

lol welcome back from your 3 week hiatus the moment Jamo finally has a big game.

Unfortunately for many of us, he was NOT 'one of the best WR2's" and didn't lead us to the playoffs, making this all irrelevant.

Would you stop making it personal. Talk about football. Jamo is playing g great, much better than all the experts predicted. Every single one of them. Nothing wrong with Jamos production the last three weeks. He is on pace for overt 1000 yards.

Not close to as good as you said though.

This was an awesome week for him, but doesn't matter if you missed playoffs because he didn't have a very good year.

Finishes the fantasy regular season as WR34 (WR40 PPG like many like to use).

Disappointing year.

 

[jon_mx]

4-118-1....not a bad first half.

Guess who's back... back again... Jon is back... tell a friend...

lol welcome back from your 3 week hiatus the moment Jamo finally has a big game.

Unfortunately for many of us, he was NOT 'one of the best WR2's" and didn't lead us to the playoffs, making this all irrelevant.

Would you stop making it personal. Talk about football. Jamo is playing g great, much better than all the experts predicted. Every single one of them. Nothing wrong with Jamos production the last three weeks. He is on pace for overt 1000 yards.

Not close to as good as you said though.

This was an awesome week for him, but doesn't matter if you missed playoffs because he didn't have a very good year.

Finishes the fantasy regular season as WR34 (WR40 PPG like many like to use).

Disappointing year.

Oh BS. You have continuously misrepresented my positions. I am so done with you. It is tiresome and nobody wants to hear it. Jamo is having a good year and it is not even over.

 

[WaltonGoggins]

what a godsend had Jamo as my flex in 18 team 1PPR league and Gibbs as one of my RB. Season high score at the perfect time!

 

[Deamon]

4-118-1....not a bad first half.

Guess who's back... back again... Jon is back... tell a friend...

lol welcome back from your 3 week hiatus the moment Jamo finally has a big game.

Unfortunately for many of us, he was NOT 'one of the best WR2's" and didn't lead us to the playoffs, making this all irrelevant.

Would you stop making it personal. Talk about football. Jamo is playing g great, much better than all the experts predicted. Every single one of them. Nothing wrong with Jamos production the last three weeks. He is on pace for overt 1000 yards.

Not close to as good as you said though.

This was an awesome week for him, but doesn't matter if you missed playoffs because he didn't have a very good year.

Finishes the fantasy regular season as WR34 (WR40 PPG like many like to use).

Disappointing year.

Oh BS. You have continuously misrepresented my positions. I am so done with you. It is tiresome and nobody wants to hear it. Jamo is having a good year and it is not even over.

You said he was going to be one of the top WR2's rest of season....was he? No.

Finished regular fantasy season as WR40 ppg.

Horrible take.

 

[Zeppelin]

 

[Ilov80s]

He’s fun but yeah he seems best as the ultimate what the heck flex type. Very boom or bust but the booms are fun.

 

[jon_mx]

Lions WR Jameson Williams catches 82-yard TD from Jared Goff

Goff threw it from the 10 and Jamo caught at the Bears 35, so the ball traveled 55 yards in the air. Nice throw by Goff. Goff has hit Jamo 25 to 40 yards down field for big plays, but that is probably the first real bomb they connected on.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Three TD receptions of 60+ yards this season.

He ties Cloyce Box (1952, 1950) and John Greene (1945) for the most in a season in Lions history.

 

[Zeppelin]

Lions WR Jameson Williams catches 82-yard TD from Jared Goff

Goff threw it from the 10 and Jamo caught at the Bears 35, so the ball traveled 55 yards in the air. Nice throw by Goff. Goff has hit Jamo 25 to 40 yards down field for big plays, but that is probably the first real bomb they connected on.

I don't know how long the throw was but Goff recently threw a perfect pass that Jamo dropped (which would have been called back because of a penalty).

 

[BobbyLayne]

Jamo has been good on Deep (20+ yards beyond the LOS) balls this year, but he's even better on Intermediate (10-19 yards) routes

17 receptions
406 yards (9th)
162 YAC (2nd)
23.9 YPR (2nd)
9.5 YAC/REC (2nd)
97.6 PFF grade (11th)
123.1 passer rating (12th)
5/8 Contested Catches (8th)

For the season, Williams is 1st (out of 91 qualifying WR) with 8.8 YAC/REC

Needs 110 yards in his last two games for his first 1000 season (in 15 g)

 

[Chaka]

4-118-1....not a bad first half.

Guess who's back... back again... Jon is back... tell a friend...

lol welcome back from your 3 week hiatus the moment Jamo finally has a big game.

Unfortunately for many of us, he was NOT 'one of the best WR2's" and didn't lead us to the playoffs, making this all irrelevant.

Would you stop making it personal. Talk about football. Jamo is playing g great, much better than all the experts predicted. Every single one of them. Nothing wrong with Jamos production the last three weeks. He is on pace for overt 1000 yards.

Not close to as good as you said though.

This was an awesome week for him, but doesn't matter if you missed playoffs because he didn't have a very good year.

Finishes the fantasy regular season as WR34 (WR40 PPG like many like to use).

Disappointing year.

Oh BS. You have continuously misrepresented my positions. I am so done with you. It is tiresome and nobody wants to hear it. Jamo is having a good year and it is not even over.

You said he was going to be one of the top WR2's rest of season....was he? No.

Finished regular fantasy season as WR40 ppg.

Horrible take.

I think using the regular fantasy season metric is a convenient way to manipulate the data.

He was always going to be a high variance guy. I think, virtually all of us knew that going into the season.

I don't think many will discount yesterday's effort, when evaluating for next season, because it happened in week 16 instead of week 14 or 15. He is currently closer to WR 24-27 in PPG on the season and he will likely be drafted accordingly next year.

WR 24-27 is still below my hopes for him this year, I was thinking he might approach WR 16-18, but he was also a value, so far, relative to his draft position.

 

[EWV1]

I don't mind the variance. He can be a week winner. And of course he is more valuable in leagues that reward distance for TD's.

 

[panhead55]

890 yards and 6 TDs in 13 games is certainly in
the WR2 range. Without the 2 game suspension, he'd currently be at 1027 yards with his pace to date.

 

[TartanLion]

890 yards and 6 TDs in 13 games is certainly in
the WR2 range. Without the 2 game suspension, he'd currently be at 1027 yards with his pace to date.

There’s not much value in cherry picking even further but it’s worth noting that the news of his incoming suspension broke very quickly after the Vikings game where it almost seemed to me that he was virtually ignored in that game because the team were already aware, almost like they just had him out there as a decoy but were punishing him

1 target, 1 reception for -4 yards

Just my opinion though and complete conjecture

 

[Deamon]

890 yards and 6 TDs in 13 games is certainly in
the WR2 range. Without the 2 game suspension, he'd currently be at 1027 yards with his pace to date.

goff threw for like 85 and 145 yards those 2 games he missed.

And him missing those games hurt fantasy teams who had to start a lesser wr. that very much counts. We will see where he ends up end of year, but as WR40 per game in order to get you to fantasy playoffs, he was a WR4.

He was in no shape or form a "high end wr" and "should be drafted round 3", that's the argument. He did slightly better than his projections were.

 

[Soulfly3]

890 yards and 6 TDs in 13 games is certainly in
the WR2 range. Without the 2 game suspension, he'd currently be at 1027 yards with his pace to date.

goff threw for like 85 and 145 yards those 2 games he missed.

And him missing those games hurt fantasy teams who had to start a lesser wr. that very much counts. We will see where he ends up end of year, but as WR40 per game in order to get you to fantasy playoffs, he was a WR4.

He was in no shape or form a "high end wr" and "should be drafted round 3", that's the argument. He did slightly better than his projections were.

He's WR26 on a ppg basis in PPR. It has to be taken into account.

 

[TartanLion]

890 yards and 6 TDs in 13 games is certainly in
the WR2 range. Without the 2 game suspension, he'd currently be at 1027 yards with his pace to date.

goff threw for like 85 and 145 yards those 2 games he missed.

And him missing those games hurt fantasy teams who had to start a lesser wr. that very much counts. We will see where he ends up end of year, but as WR40 per game in order to get you to fantasy playoffs, he was a WR4.

He was in no shape or form a "high end wr" and "should be drafted round 3", that's the argument. He did slightly better than his projections were.

He's WR26 on a ppg basis in PPR. It has to be taken into account.

0.5 ppr WR24 on season points and WR21 in average ppg in my league anyway. One position behind London and one ahead of Garrett Wilson for ave ppg. Season up to date of course

 

[BobbyLayne]

[All 22 Films]

Detroit's deep threat shreds Chicago | Film Study

 

[TartanLion]

[All 22 Films]

Detroit's deep threat shreds Chicago | Film Study

Really enjoyed this thanks !

 

[Deamon]

890 yards and 6 TDs in 13 games is certainly in
the WR2 range. Without the 2 game suspension, he'd currently be at 1027 yards with his pace to date.

goff threw for like 85 and 145 yards those 2 games he missed.

And him missing those games hurt fantasy teams who had to start a lesser wr. that very much counts. We will see where he ends up end of year, but as WR40 per game in order to get you to fantasy playoffs, he was a WR4.

He was in no shape or form a "high end wr" and "should be drafted round 3", that's the argument. He did slightly better than his projections were.

He's WR26 on a ppg basis in PPR. It has to be taken into account.

Ya, he went from WR40 to WR26 PPG after his big week last week. Unfortunately he wasn't good enough all year to get a huge chunk of his owners to the semi finals.

 

[Chaka]

890 yards and 6 TDs in 13 games is certainly in
the WR2 range. Without the 2 game suspension, he'd currently be at 1027 yards with his pace to date.

goff threw for like 85 and 145 yards those 2 games he missed.

And him missing those games hurt fantasy teams who had to start a lesser wr. that very much counts. We will see where he ends up end of year, but as WR40 per game in order to get you to fantasy playoffs, he was a WR4.

He was in no shape or form a "high end wr" and "should be drafted round 3", that's the argument. He did slightly better than his projections were.

He's WR26 on a ppg basis in PPR. It has to be taken into account.

Ya, he went from WR40 to WR26 PPG after his big week last week. Unfortunately he wasn't good enough all year to get a huge chunk of his owners to the semi finals.

Again, when you are evaluating him next year are you going to ignore every game after week 15?

He's a high variance option, we all recognize that, it will also factor into his projections next year. But the fact is, after week 16 he's WR26 not WR26*.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Doesn't even seem like a good faith argument at this point.

If he plays 15 or more games next year, with only a small incremental increase in consistency, you're looking at a 24 y.o. puttinng up 65-1200-8.

With upside beyond that.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Last 7 weeks (since coming back from suspension):

• 45 targets
• 30 receptions
• 529 yards
• 17.6 YPC
• 3 TD
• 5-31 rushing
• 104.0 ppr points

extrapolated to 15 games

• 96 targets
• 64 receptions
• 1134 yards
• 17.7 YPC
• 6 TD
• 11-66 rushing
• 220 ppr points
• would equate to WR10 after 15 weeks in 2024

With a little more consistency, 65-75 receptions, 1250 yards, 8 TD seems achievable for 2025. Of course they'll likely have a new OC and other changes so we'll see.

 

[need2know]

Would you guys play him over devonta smith and theilen this week?

 

[Chaka]

Last 7 weeks (since coming back from suspension):

• 45 targets
• 30 receptions
• 529 yards
• 17.6 YPC
• 3 TD
• 5-31 rushing
• 104.0 ppr points

extrapolated to 15 games

• 96 targets
• 64 receptions
• 1134 yards
• 17.7 YPC
• 6 TD
• 11-66 rushing
• 220 ppr points
• would equate to WR10 after 15 weeks in 2024

With a little more consistency, 65-75 receptions, 1250 yards, 8 TD seems achievable for 2025. Of course they'll likely have a new OC and other changes so we'll see.

Love it but, as it relates to next season IMO of the defense is healthy and strong we will still see an emphasis on the run game and defense. As prolific as the offense is they sure seem to love to grind opponents into submission.

 

[Chaka]

Would you guys play him over devonta smith this week?

Probably not but I do think it's closer than most.

Honestly I have a hunch about him RoS because of the defense and injury to Monty that the Lions unlocking the passing game is the new norm.

So, personally I might go with Jameson but, it's probably not the right decision and I am an unabashed Jameson fan boy.

 

[jon_mx]

WR16/WR17 average and total in standard scoring
WR26/WR26 average and total in PPR scoring

But apparently winning playoff games does not count in this new fantasy world. A few people seem to hate winning playoff games. Who knew when making season projections only the first 14 weeks count.

 

[Chaka]

WR16/WR17 average and total in standard scoring
WR26/WR26 average and total in PPR scoring

But apparently winning playoff games does not count in this new fantasy world. A few people seem to hate winning playoff games. Who knew when making season projections only the first 14 weeks count.

I'm curious; did you consider that virtually no one who actually made the playoffs used Jameson as anything other than a bye week filler to get to the playoffs? And even fewer had Jameson in their lineups, barring catastrophic injuries, during the playoffs for the very, legitimate reasons that @Deamon pointed out?

Yes, he's WR26 (ish) this season and no one should try to diminish that. It semi-validates your opinion, and mine (more mine), going into the season. Take that win, maybe even be like Barry and act like you've been there.

But suggesting he was some kind of integral part to a championship team is kinda disingenuous at best dontcha think?

It's definitely not very Christmassy.

ETA: I do understand you're mostly having fun and I know Deamon isn't bothered by that kind of braggadocio but I see that kind of stuff derail threads all the time and it's not fun for anyone else.

 

[Harjiran]

Starting him with some degree of confidence with a championship at stake - in my league he's been good for at least 10 fantasy points in 5 of the past 6 weeks, with 2 boom weeks. I need another boom game, Jamo - let's go!!

 

[Harjiran]

Would you guys play him over devonta smith and theilen this week?

Tough call, they're all roughly in the same tier for me so I would go with my gut. My gut says Jamo.

 

[BobbyLayne]

WR16/WR17 average and total in standard scoring
WR26/WR26 average and total in PPR scoring

But apparently winning playoff games does not count in this new fantasy world. A few people seem to hate winning playoff games. Who knew when making season projections only the first 14 weeks count.

I'm curious; did you consider that virtually no one who actually made the playoffs used Jameson as anything other than a bye week filler to get to the playoffs? And even fewer had Jameson in their lineups, barring catastrophic injuries, during the playoffs for the very, legitimate reasons that @Deamon pointed out?

Yes, he's WR26 (ish) this season and no one should try to diminish that. It semi-validates your opinion, and mine (more mine), going into the season. Take that win, maybe even be like Barry and act like you've been there.

But suggesting he was some kind of integral part to a championship team is kinda disingenuous at best (obnoxious at worst) dontcha think?

It's definitely not very Christmassy.

Yeah, that's true, good points - last 5 weeks of the regular FF season in full PPR:

• WR42
• WR5
• WR28
• WR48
• WR32

That is pretty underwhelming, and the playoff schedule looked rough on paper.

Quarterfinals

• WR32

Semifinals

• WR4

Finals - at SF, ranked 32nd in FF points allowed to WRs

Didn't have a great playoff schedule; Weeks 10-11 were his last plus matchup. Weeks 12 & 15 were neutral, Weeks 13, 14, 16 & 17 were all tough matchups in terms of FF pts allowed to WRs. So when you were looking ahead and thinking about your stretch run/playoff lineup, Jamo had four red matchups out of five weeks 13-17.

The Jamo owner in our league started him 9 times in the regular season (out of 11 - bye week, 2 game suspension), but has had him glued to the bench all 3 weeks of the playoffs. He's about to finish 4th though (W-L-L).

 

[Soulfly3]

890 yards and 6 TDs in 13 games is certainly in
the WR2 range. Without the 2 game suspension, he'd currently be at 1027 yards with his pace to date.

goff threw for like 85 and 145 yards those 2 games he missed.

And him missing those games hurt fantasy teams who had to start a lesser wr. that very much counts. We will see where he ends up end of year, but as WR40 per game in order to get you to fantasy playoffs, he was a WR4.

He was in no shape or form a "high end wr" and "should be drafted round 3", that's the argument. He did slightly better than his projections were.

He's WR26 on a ppg basis in PPR. It has to be taken into account.

Ya, he went from WR40 to WR26 PPG after his big week last week. Unfortunately he wasn't good enough all year to get a huge chunk of his owners to the semi finals.

Ya Im avoiding and selling Derrick Henry everywhere I have him cuz of his week 1 playoff performance.

 

[jon_mx]

WR16/WR17 average and total in standard scoring
WR26/WR26 average and total in PPR scoring

But apparently winning playoff games does not count in this new fantasy world. A few people seem to hate winning playoff games. Who knew when making season projections only the first 14 weeks count.

I'm curious; did you consider that virtually no one who actually made the playoffs used Jameson as anything other than a bye week filler to get to the playoffs? And even fewer had Jameson in their lineups, barring catastrophic injuries, during the playoffs for the very, legitimate reasons that @Deamon pointed out?

I would imagine a lot of people who drafted him in the 8th or 9th who made the playoffs had him as their flex starter. If he is on the bench, they drafted WR really well and did not have any injuries at WR/RB. Having draft targets like Jamo in your back pocket allow you to jump on other positions like TE or QB a little earlier than others.

Without his suspension he could have reached 1150/9, as is he is going to hit around 1000//7. At least I hope he hits 1000 as I have a good chunk money on it.

What i really care about is Jamo helping the Lions get the #1 seed on way to a SB championship. There are only a handful of NFL teams who got better production out of their WR2. There were a lot of chatter preseason that Jamo was a bust which is now been shutdown.

 

[BobbyLayne]

I'm starting to wonder now if even I am over ranking him by a large margin by having him ranked as WR30.

In the 5 high stakes leagues I'm currently slow drafting in or have live drafted this week, this is where Jamo was drafted:

WR43
WR44
WR47
WR48
WR48
WR52

And in 5 of those 6, I am the one that took him, so who knows how far he would have gone lol

I have kind of been pushing it a bit later and later in each of my drafts before pulling the trigger as I'm seeing so many people avoid taking him until R10+

In my Sleeper Draft, I took Jamo as WR51 at the 9.10 draft spot.

WR48 consensus ADP on FantasyPros, and they break it down as:
WR46 for NFL
WR47 for RTSports
WR48 for both ESPN and Sleeper

18 FBG staffers who do WR rankings have him as WR51, with the highest being WR42 and the lowest being WR69

I'm sure there are some experts out there who love him as well, but it seems Jamo's biggest buzz is coming directly from this thread.

It also comes from Amon-Ra, Goff, Terrion Arnold, Ben Johnson, Dan Campbell and anyone watching camp. What happened is the first few forecaster had negative takes on Jamo, and groupthink has taken over. The vast majority of people lose confidence in their opinion and cave into group-think and become afraid of being wrong and instead agree to create harmony. Going against the group has never bothered me. I would go as far as the negatives against Jamo are utterly absurd.

- his route running looks fantastic
- his hands looks much better
- Goff's confidence in him has skyrocketed
- His speed and allusivenesx is off the chart
- The passing offense is easily top 5
- He has moved from a WR4/5, to the undisputed WR2, but yet everyone wants to use his WR4 numbers to extrapolate and limit his numbers.
- Goff will throw over 625 passes, there is no universe Jamo does no see at least 100.

I would bet $100 against every staffer that their projections is too low.

I just want to verify our bet is on. $100.
If at the end of the regular season Jamo is 40th or better in PPR scoring (total points), I owe you $100.
If he’s 41st or worse, you owe me $100.

There is no out for injury or suspension or anything else.

Deal? (Handshake makes it official).

Exactly. Deal.

You need to post that handshake emoji to make it official

Lol..my bad.

It’s a bet I’d be happy losing. Go Lions!

Anybody else make a bet with @jon_mx ?

No? Just yapping?

 

[packdog]

WR16/WR17 average and total in standard scoring
WR26/WR26 average and total in PPR scoring

But apparently winning playoff games does not count in this new fantasy world. A few people seem to hate winning playoff games. Who knew when making season projections only the first 14 weeks count.

I'm curious; did you consider that virtually no one who actually made the playoffs used Jameson as anything other than a bye week filler to get to the playoffs? And even fewer had Jameson in their lineups, barring catastrophic injuries, during the playoffs for the very, legitimate reasons that @Deamon pointed out?

Yes, he's WR26 (ish) this season and no one should try to diminish that. It semi-validates your opinion, and mine (more mine), going into the season. Take that win, maybe even be like Barry and act like you've been there.

But suggesting he was some kind of integral part to a championship team is kinda disingenuous at best dontcha think?

It's definitely not very Christmassy.

ETA: I do understand you're mostly having fun and I know Deamon isn't bothered by that kind of braggadocio but I see that kind of stuff derail threads all the time and it's not fun for anyone else.

jamo is on and starting on like 3 or 4 of my championship game teams. one is even an 8 team league where the injuries piled up. but that team just like my others usually start more than two or three wrs. most of my leagues nowadays have two or three flexes no matter if 10 or 12 teams. in a 16 teamer a guy like jamo was a wonderful value. his performance last week propelled many teams to a ship berth i would imagine, especially in a year with a lot of injuries at the wr position

 

[WaltonGoggins]

what a godsend had Jamo as my flex in 18 team 1PPR league and Gibbs as one of my RB. Season high score at the perfect time!

Nothing changes on my end starting him as flex.

 

[WaltonGoggins]

WR16/WR17 average and total in standard scoring
WR26/WR26 average and total in PPR scoring

But apparently winning playoff games does not count in this new fantasy world. A few people seem to hate winning playoff games. Who knew when making season projections only the first 14 weeks count.

I'm curious; did you consider that virtually no one who actually made the playoffs used Jameson as anything other than a bye week filler to get to the playoffs? And even fewer had Jameson in their lineups, barring catastrophic injuries, during the playoffs for the very, legitimate reasons that @Deamon pointed out?

I would imagine a lot of people who drafted him in the 8th or 9th who made the playoffs had him as their flex starter. If he is on the bench, they drafted WR really well and did not have any injuries at WR/RB. Having draft targets like Jamo in your back pocket allow you to jump on other positions like TE or QB a little earlier than others.

Without his suspension he could have reached 1150/9, as is he is going to hit around 1000//7. At least I hope he hits 1000 as I have a good chunk money on it.

What i really care about is Jamo helping the Lions get the #1 seed on way to a SB championship. There are only a handful of NFL teams who got better production out of their WR2. There were a lot of chatter preseason that Jamo was a bust which is now been shutdown.

In my 1 pt PPR 18 team league drafted him towards end of round 7 and Rico round 9 which has helped me get into championship. Still starting with confidence.

 

[Faust]

Jameson Williams closes in on his first 1,000-yard season

 

[nysfl2]

Would you guys play him over devonta smith and theilen this week?

I would - this is a revenge game for the Lions, and the weather is going to be good. If San Fran has packed it in for the year, they could put up 50.

 

[nysfl2]

Also, the coaching staff pays attention to contract bonuses and milestones for their players, and they'll be working to get Jamo his 1000 yards if they get a lead. Next week will be all business for the team, so they'd probably prefer not to have to think about it.

 

[Harjiran]

He's leading me to the promised land tonight. Thanks Jamo!

 

[BobbyLayne]

Jamo career and touchdowns by length

2022

• 41 receiving

2023

• 45 receiving
• 32 receiving
• 19 rushing
• 42 rushing*
• 3receiving*

2024

• 52 receiving
• 70 receiving
• 37 receiving
• 64 receiving
• 3 receiving
• 82 receiving
• 3 rushing
• 44 receiving

*NFCCG

 

[Chaka]

WR16/WR17 average and total in standard scoring
WR26/WR26 average and total in PPR scoring

But apparently winning playoff games does not count in this new fantasy world. A few people seem to hate winning playoff games. Who knew when making season projections only the first 14 weeks count.

I'm curious; did you consider that virtually no one who actually made the playoffs used Jameson as anything other than a bye week filler to get to the playoffs? And even fewer had Jameson in their lineups, barring catastrophic injuries, during the playoffs for the very, legitimate reasons that @Deamon pointed out?

Yes, he's WR26 (ish) this season and no one should try to diminish that. It semi-validates your opinion, and mine (more mine), going into the season. Take that win, maybe even be like Barry and act like you've been there.

But suggesting he was some kind of integral part to a championship team is kinda disingenuous at best dontcha think?

It's definitely not very Christmassy.

ETA: I do understand you're mostly having fun and I know Deamon isn't bothered by that kind of braggadocio but I see that kind of stuff derail threads all the time and it's not fun for anyone else.

FTR I stand by everything I said but I have to add that, the way Jameson has been trending I think he became a legitimate play for championship weekend.

Made that recco multiple times in the WSIS thread.

 

[McBokonon]

Wouldn’t have won my semifinal without him, and he put me over the top tonight in the final in one of the FBG home leagues. I’ll be drinking a certain Irish whiskey in his honor.