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WR Puka Nacua LAR (1 Viewer)

Man I had Puka locked in as my keeper for 0$ (out of a 200$ auction budget). Now I'm leaning Nico for 1$.

I know Puka will be back eventually but do I want to wait it out? Hate starting the season already dealing with injuries.
 
RenegadeRoy said:
Man I had Puka locked in as my keeper for 0$ (out of a 200$ auction budget). Now I'm leaning Nico for 1$.

I know Puka will be back eventually but do I want to wait it out? Hate starting the season already dealing with injuries.
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For me I'm pretty sure I'd go with Puka. But, what is the future situation, e.g., how many keepers, can you keep the same guy repeatedly?
 
So, running around like my head’s on fire it is then.

Sigh

Just glad the league I still have Puka is the one I loaded up on WR in the offseason.

Rest easy, Puka. I need you for the home stretch.
 
RenegadeRoy said:
Man I had Puka locked in as my keeper for 0$ (out of a 200$ auction budget). Now I'm leaning Nico for 1$.

I know Puka will be back eventually but do I want to wait it out? Hate starting the season already dealing with injuries.
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Even with the injury dropping him in drafts, he's still going higher than Nico. The $1 isn't a big deal obviously, but I'd still keep Puka for $0 there.
 
eighsse2 said:
RenegadeRoy said:
Man I had Puka locked in as my keeper for 0$ (out of a 200$ auction budget). Now I'm leaning Nico for 1$.

I know Puka will be back eventually but do I want to wait it out? Hate starting the season already dealing with injuries.
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For me I'm pretty sure I'd go with Puka. But, what is the future situation, e.g., how many keepers, can you keep the same guy repeatedly?
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One keeper, can only be kept one year at the cost they were drafted at in previous year with FA pickups being 0$
 
RenegadeRoy said:
eighsse2 said:
RenegadeRoy said:
Man I had Puka locked in as my keeper for 0$ (out of a 200$ auction budget). Now I'm leaning Nico for 1$.

I know Puka will be back eventually but do I want to wait it out? Hate starting the season already dealing with injuries.
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For me I'm pretty sure I'd go with Puka. But, what is the future situation, e.g., how many keepers, can you keep the same guy repeatedly?
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One keeper, can only be kept one year at the cost they were drafted at in previous year with FA pickups being 0$
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In that case I could understand the Collins lean a little, but still would go Puka.
 
This injury does not affect my feelings about Puka in dynasty or keeper leagues. Redraft is another animal altogether. That said, acquiring D.Rob seems like a good idea, and that is if you have Puka or not. For that matter, the same reasoning applies to Kupp. D. Rob stock should be on the rise. Sprinkle in a little TuTu for good measure.
 
Jeff Mueller, PT, DPT
Sean McVay info fits what’s seen on video for Puka Nacua.
The main concern for Wk1 status was a PCL sprain, so thankfully it sounds like it’s just irritation of the bursa under the patella (direct contact onto his patella in video).
Get inflammation down & he’ll be good to go Wk1
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I’m still in on him in redraft - the idea of getting him late 2nd if picking in the top 3, or (gasp!) early 3rd is extremely appealing.

FWIW, I actually feel like 2nd round is a more accurate valuation. With Kupp healthy, I’m much more comfortable with that price than late 1st.
 
For me, I'm not saying that Puka Nacua isn't a great talent, but I do know that Matthew Stafford is pretty good at padding stats to WR. He has thrown to:

1.) The player with the most receiving yards in a season (Calvin Johnson, 1,964).
2.) The player with the 2nd most regular season receiving yards and most postseason receiving yards in a season (Cooper Kupp, 1,947; 652).
3.) The rookie with the most regular season receiving yards (Puka Nacua, 1,486).


Not saying that that Puka Nacua isn't talented, but for me the correlating factor to 3 different NFL records is Matthew Stafford. And guess what? Matthew Stafford will be Puka Nacua's Quarterback again for next season, so I see no reason he wouldn't reprise his role. We're talking about a guy who made that scrub Kenny Golladay look like a competent NFL receiver, lol.


Draft Puka Nacua with confidence. Youngest and best WR on a team playing with a guy who puts up historic seasons to WR.
 
BIRDGANG52 said:
Not saying that that Puka Nacua isn't talented, but for me the correlating factor to 3 different NFL records is Matthew Stafford. And guess what? Matthew Stafford will be Puka Nacua's Quarterback again for next season, so I see no reason he wouldn't reprise his role.
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I can think of one reason.
BIRDGANG52 said:
2.) The player with the 2nd most regular season receiving yards and most postseason receiving yards in a season (Cooper Kupp, 1,947; 652).
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BIRDGANG52 said:
For me, I'm not saying that Puka Nacua isn't a great talent, but I do know that Matthew Stafford is pretty good at padding stats to WR. He has thrown to:

1.) The player with the most receiving yards in a season (Calvin Johnson, 1,964).
2.) The player with the 2nd most regular season receiving yards and most postseason receiving yards in a season (Cooper Kupp, 1,947; 652).
3.) The rookie with the most regular season receiving yards (Puka Nacua, 1,486).


Not saying that that Puka Nacua isn't talented, but for me the correlating factor to 3 different NFL records is Matthew Stafford. And guess what? Matthew Stafford will be Puka Nacua's Quarterback again for next season, so I see no reason he wouldn't reprise his role. We're talking about a guy who made that scrub Kenny Golladay look like a competent NFL receiver, lol.


Draft Puka Nacua with confidence. Youngest and best WR on a team playing with a guy who puts up historic seasons to WR.
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Any idea who was the WR2 on the 2012 Lions in terms of targets? Raise your hand if you knew it was Titus Young with 56. Megatron had 204. How about the 2021 Rams? The second most targeted WR that year was Van Jefferson with 89. Kupp had 191. Last year, Puka saw 160 targets while Kupp saw 95. If both Kupp and Nacua are healthy, IMO, they will limit each other's upside. I think they can both do well, but I don't think they can do historically well if they each play all the time.
 
Chaka said:
BIRDGANG52 said:
Not saying that that Puka Nacua isn't talented, but for me the correlating factor to 3 different NFL records is Matthew Stafford. And guess what? Matthew Stafford will be Puka Nacua's Quarterback again for next season, so I see no reason he wouldn't reprise his role.
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I can think of one reason.
BIRDGANG52 said:
2.) The player with the 2nd most regular season receiving yards and most postseason receiving yards in a season (Cooper Kupp, 1,947; 652).
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You could be right, funnily enough, it's almost like Cooper Kupp sold his soul for that 2021 season. He caught 178 passes including the postseason that year and hasn't been able to stay healthy since.

2022: 9 Games / 75 Catches / 812 Yards
2023: 12 Games / 59 Catches / 737 Yards


I just figured the wheels are starting to fall off. I'm sure he'll have a decent season if he stays healthy, but based on last year's numbers had he played a full 17 games he would have paced for 83 Catches / 1,044 yards. Which is comparable to Terry McLaurin who had 79 Catches / 1,002. Thinking the writing is on the wall for our hero Cooper Kupp who is now age 31. I might actually prefer McLaurin at ADP of 55 vs Cooper Kupp with an ADP of 27. McLaurin also being 2-3 years younger.

McLaurin has played in 17/17 games the last 3 seasons and if Cooper's upside is the same as McLaurin's now as the stats above indicate, why not take the guy who will actually be on the field? Not quite the conclusion I thought I would come to posting in a Puka Nacua thread, but here we are, lol. I know Kupp has been banged up, but football players generally don't get more healthy as they age. Once the breakdown starts, some people's bodies just fail them.


Thanks for the thought exercise on this.
 
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BIRDGANG52 said:
Chaka said:
BIRDGANG52 said:
Not saying that that Puka Nacua isn't talented, but for me the correlating factor to 3 different NFL records is Matthew Stafford. And guess what? Matthew Stafford will be Puka Nacua's Quarterback again for next season, so I see no reason he wouldn't reprise his role.
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I can think of one reason.
BIRDGANG52 said:
2.) The player with the 2nd most regular season receiving yards and most postseason receiving yards in a season (Cooper Kupp, 1,947; 652).
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You could be right, funnily enough, it's almost like Cooper Kupp sold his soul for that 2021 season. He caught 178 passes including the postseason that year and hasn't been able to stay healthy since.

2022: 9 Games / 75 Catches / 812 Yards
2023: 12 Games / 59 Catches / 737 Yards


I just figured the wheels are starting to fall off. I'm sure he'll have a decent season if he stays healthy, but based on last year's numbers had he played a full 17 games he would have paced for 83 Catches / 1,044 yards. Which is comparable to Terry McLaurin who had 79 Catches / 1,002. Thinking the writing is on the wall for our hero Cooper Kupp who is now age 31. I might actually prefer McLaurin at ADP of 55 vs Cooper Kupp with an ADP of 27. McLaurin also being 2-3 years younger.

McLaurin has played in 17/17 games the last 3 seasons and if Cooper's upside is the same as McLaurin's now as the stats above indicate, why not take the guy who will actually be on the field? Not quite the conclusion I thought I would come to posting in a Puka Nacua thread, but here we are, lol. I know Kupp has been banged up, but football players generally don't get more healthy as they age. Once the breakdown starts, some people's bodies just fail them.


Thanks for the thought exercise on this.
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Pretty clear Kupp was never fully healthy last year so projecting his stats not all that useful imo. He does come with more injury risk than most that is true. It's a gamble that's well worth taking at the right price. His ADP has been rising though so if gets too high can see some folks not wanting to take the risk.
 
Mitchie said:
BIRDGANG52 said:
Chaka said:
BIRDGANG52 said:
Not saying that that Puka Nacua isn't talented, but for me the correlating factor to 3 different NFL records is Matthew Stafford. And guess what? Matthew Stafford will be Puka Nacua's Quarterback again for next season, so I see no reason he wouldn't reprise his role.
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I can think of one reason.
BIRDGANG52 said:
2.) The player with the 2nd most regular season receiving yards and most postseason receiving yards in a season (Cooper Kupp, 1,947; 652).
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You could be right, funnily enough, it's almost like Cooper Kupp sold his soul for that 2021 season. He caught 178 passes including the postseason that year and hasn't been able to stay healthy since.

2022: 9 Games / 75 Catches / 812 Yards
2023: 12 Games / 59 Catches / 737 Yards


I just figured the wheels are starting to fall off. I'm sure he'll have a decent season if he stays healthy, but based on last year's numbers had he played a full 17 games he would have paced for 83 Catches / 1,044 yards. Which is comparable to Terry McLaurin who had 79 Catches / 1,002. Thinking the writing is on the wall for our hero Cooper Kupp who is now age 31. I might actually prefer McLaurin at ADP of 55 vs Cooper Kupp with an ADP of 27. McLaurin also being 2-3 years younger.

McLaurin has played in 17/17 games the last 3 seasons and if Cooper's upside is the same as McLaurin's now as the stats above indicate, why not take the guy who will actually be on the field? Not quite the conclusion I thought I would come to posting in a Puka Nacua thread, but here we are, lol. I know Kupp has been banged up, but football players generally don't get more healthy as they age. Once the breakdown starts, some people's bodies just fail them.


Thanks for the thought exercise on this.
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Pretty clear Kupp was never fully healthy last year so projecting his stats not all that useful imo. He does come with more injury risk than most that is true. It's a gamble that's well worth taking at the right price. His ADP has been rising though so if gets too high can see some folks not wanting to take the risk.
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Sounds a lot like Michael Thomas. Puts up a historic year that blows a hole in the side of the hull and we'll be caught chasing stats for the next 2-3 years. I'm rooting for him, but I'd be silly to tie my wagon to a guy who's only played 21 games in 2 years going into his age 31 season. Especially as the 3rd/4th best player on my team.

His heir apparent came out of the woodwork last season. This is a Puka thread after all, I'm rooting for the Hawaiian, Samoan to continue to pickup where Cooper Kupp left off. At some point, Cooper probably says "Let the young kid handle it, I'm too old!!". I think he would be fine catching 30-40 less passes if it means he actually gets to play the majority of games and stay out of the trainers' room. Food for thought.


I would take Deebo Samuel, DJ Moore, DK Metcalf, and Devontae Smith over him. All those guys have a lower ADP. I mean, there's less upside but they're all younger and have produced more recently. Those stats from 2021 don't carryover to 2024. I don't get credit for what he did when he was a healthy young man.


ETA: Did you know that only 15 age 31 Wide Receivers have ever eclipsed over 1,200 receiving yards in NFL history? It would seem like ********, but it's true.

www.statmuse.com

Who Has The Most Receiving Yards At Age 31 | StatMuse

Jerry Rice has the most career receiving yards by a 31-year-old player, with 1,714 yards.
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GoBirds said:
Any concerns being ready for the start of the season?
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He'll be fine. These young cats heal way faster than these older dudes. He's not a millionaire yet. He only made approximately a $810,000 base salary last year. You will find that you will be willing to gut through the pain when you're playing for a potential $30,000,000 a year contract in the next couple of years.


He's not dumb. Go make that money, young man.
 
packdog said:
buy the dip on him. he much more appealing as a late 2nd-early 3rd then a late 1st-early 2nd
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He's not going either of those spots though now.

Pretty much anywhere from 2.02-2.07. So that's where it's tough to gauge if it's a good value or not.
 
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