Dizzy
Footballguy
He can learn to catch watching Tee Higgins in practice every day next season.
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WR Quentin Johnston, LAC (3 Viewers)
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He can learn to catch watching Tee Higgins in practice every day next season.
jm192
Footballguy
He's averaging 37.5 yards per game. How many times this year did anyone feel comfortable/confident starting the guy? He's kind of a what the heck flex play hoping he gets into the endzone.
8 TD's feels nice, but it doesn't make him a reliable fantasy starter when he can't consistently give you 40 yards.
8 TD's feels nice, but it doesn't make him a reliable fantasy starter when he can't consistently give you 40 yards.
Tau837
Footballguy
I have him in one PPR league. I started him 7 times due to byes and injuries:
I can't complain about that overall performance. Just on my roster alone in that league, he averaged more ppg than WRs Doubs and Aiyuk. Aiyuk was a starter until his injury, and Doubs was my first WR off the bench to open the season. He is currently WR45 in that league in total points and WR47 in ppg. For a deep league that starts an average of more than 50 WRs every week, that is valuable.
I think you are being a bit too dismissive of 8 TDs...
- Week 3 - 12.4
- Week 9 - 22.0
- Week 10 - 10.4
- Week 11 - 12.8
- Week 12 - 0.0
- Week 14 - 15.8
- Week 15 - 15.5
- Average - 12.7 ppg
I can't complain about that overall performance. Just on my roster alone in that league, he averaged more ppg than WRs Doubs and Aiyuk. Aiyuk was a starter until his injury, and Doubs was my first WR off the bench to open the season. He is currently WR45 in that league in total points and WR47 in ppg. For a deep league that starts an average of more than 50 WRs every week, that is valuable.
I think you are being a bit too dismissive of 8 TDs...
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KellysHeroes
Footballguy
wouldn't say he's a bust yet, I would really consider this his rookie yr as 2023 was just a waste due to the coaching. Now if he pulls a 700 yard / 4 TD stat line in 14 games next yr; then yeah we can use the bust word
joey
Footballguy
Agreed. I would say the opposite of “bust”…he showed signs of life and growth and make me hopeful going into his 3rd year.
jm192
Footballguy
It's cool/lucky that you started him on most of his good weeks. If you played him on the bad weeks, you'd probably view it a little differently.
9/8: 3 for 38 and 0
9/15: 1 for 9
10/13: 3 for 22
11/25: 0 for 0
12/1: 2 for 12
12/19: 3 for 18
6 weeks with less than SEVEN PPR points.
He broke 50 yards TWICE on the season.
He's the definition of Touchdown dependent.
I'm a big believer that touchdowns are harder to predict than receptions and yards. And being big doesn't guarantee big TD numbers every year. Look at DK Metcalf, Mike Williams, George Pickens.
He had ridiculous TD efficiency this season. Over 19% of his catches were touchdowns. Ja'Marr Chase is at 13.6%. DK is at 6%. CeeDee Lamb was at 9% last year. Mike Evans for his career is at 13%.
Looking forward, I would expect some touchdown regression. He can offset that with more catches/volume. But based on what he's done this year, and what the offense wants to do--I'm not confident he sees some big increase in volume.
he was well regarded as a college receiver but clearly had some work to do to perform at the NFL level. and it took him some time. This isnt unusual for a rookie WR. used to be common but more WR are coming out of college NFL ready. That was not the case for him. This is his first season as a starter. so while not a rookie, hes going to behave like a rookie in a lot of respects. Mainly in terms of consistency (or a lack of it)
This is what rookies do. what I like to see is the high end production that hes starting to put up when hes playing well. if he can become more consistent next year, he will be a real nice player.
more importantly, he has a QB and coach that is good(smart) enough to take advantage of his skillset
I think he will be fine. Not likely WR1 fine, but definitely WR2/3 fine.
Tau837
Footballguy
Bottom line, his 2024 performance was fine, provided one had reasonable expectations for him entering the season. He crushed his ADP.
Looking forward, I see no reason that he can't build on this year's performance in 2025. I agree he won't likely have such a high percentage of his catches as TDs, but I can also easily see him catching 65 passes with 6 TDs, or something like that. I still think there is room for the offensive scheme/playcalling to better fit his routes to his strengths, which could help. There is also room for him to improve his hands and contested catch success... he could have easily had 10 more catches and another 150+ yards this season (per PFF, he had 5 drops and caught only 5 of 18 contested catches).
I'm not going to bet the farm that he becomes a fantasy WR3 or better next season, but the good news is, I won't have to. His ADP will likely be low enough that he will be in position to beat it again next year if he stays healthy.
taylormeetstheismann
Footballguy
He’s not a bust. He’s a pre-bust. He could still bust. He could still breakout. Although his chances of attaining elite status seem a little dimmer.
joey
Footballguy
I’ve given up on elite already after 2 seasons. I’d love a consistently startable WR3 at this point.
jm192
Footballguy
Amazing performance.
I think it's fair to take a week 18 blow up game with a grain of salt, no?
He has been touchdown dependent basically the whole season. Maybe this is a sign of things to come. I'll be interested to see how he fairs vs playoff teams instead of an awful Raiders team.
eighsse2
Footballguy
Oh, yeah. I don't think today changes a lot about his prospects, but a little. Just ironic that he's usually 6 targets with 2 TD's and 3 drops, and now this.
Neil Beaufort Zod
Footballguy
This guy is great. He does just enough to make you think he could be something, and make you forget all the duds. He'll be in the league for a decade. He's Jameis Winston at a different position.
I like these guys who show you just enough to keep the paychecks coming. Then they eventually go away and count their millions. Good for them.
I like these guys who show you just enough to keep the paychecks coming. Then they eventually go away and count their millions. Good for them.
zamboni
Footballguy
Good on him for showing out in week 18, but unless he continues to show out in the playoffs, I imagine he won't get enough regular targets next year anyway to be a fantasy tease. Ladd is undoubtedly going to be a target hound and have to think they'll be getting another big time weapon for Herbert next year.
Neil Beaufort Zod
Footballguy
You're probably right. But he's done enough to get a spot with another team. And he'll do just enough there to make another roster, and before you know it he's a 10-year vet.
Tau837
Footballguy
The Chargers only have 4 WRs under contract for 2025, all currently in the first or second year of their rookie contracts: Johnston; McConkey; Derius Davis, who is primarily a returner; and 2024 7th round pick Brenden Rice. So they will need to acquire at least 2 more WRs worthy of making the 2025 final roster, and I expect them to add a couple veterans to this group.
The Chargers only have around 28 players under contract for 2025 who I would expect to make the final roster. I assume they will re-sign several players, but they will still have a lot to do in the draft and free agency to rebuild the roster. They will need to inject more talent and youth into a lot of position groups: Edge, IDL, CB, S, RB, TE, IOL.
It would surprise me if they again use a high draft pick on WR, and, frankly, I don't think they should draft one at all, assuming they can land a couple veteran free agents they like. I think it is much more likely they will use an early pick on a TE1.
There is a big spectrum here, so hard to predict how Johnston's value will be affected right now, but it is very possible that Johnston remains a top 2 WR for the Chargers next season. He has shown a lot of improvement, and he still has room to grow, especially under this coaching staff, which clearly likes him.
BoltNlava
Footballguy
at you Higgins.
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
He is beyond terrible
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Not someone I have any interest in targeting, as I prefer to hold receivers that have more consistent hands. He was a great sell high last week for dynasty holders. If they don’t attack pass catchers this off-season (which would be insane), he will continue to have high and low peaks and valleys.
Chaka
Footballguy
Not that it matters and, I sincerely am not calling you out specifically because posts like that are commonplace, but I despise comments like that.
zamboni
Footballguy
I’d prefer to call him highly inconsistent, in comparison to his highly consistent counterpart McConkey.
If nothing else, this loss heading into the offseason almost certainly ensures that the Chargers will be looking for a big upgrade at WR alongside Ladd.
Chaka
Footballguy
Disagree. He put up 700 & 8 in year two. I don't expect him to be a #1 WR so he won't live up to the expectations of those who drafted him early in dynasty, but he's exactly the kind of gap player you want on your roster.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I can see similar career stats to James Washington.
joey
Footballguy
I think a lot depends on the rest of your roster and number of keepers. All of my dynasty leagues are basically FFPC Keep 14 skill player format. So he’s definitely an edge of bench guy in this kind of format.
TampaMike19
Footballguy
I’m curious if he continues to improve this offseason. Could be a good get at ADP
eighsse2
Footballguy
The playoff game was a very bad turn for his offseason value, haha. Coming off that crazy, uncharacteristically reliable game? Then 0-5 in the playoffs? While McConkey goes nuts.
doubt it, hopefully for their sake Chargers upgrade the position in the offseason
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
It was some of QJohnson, but the OLine got destroyed and Herbert wasn't good yesterday. If your in my leagues and your done with Johnson then send me an offer
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Sounds like "you're" dug in on QJ.
What are you paying for him?
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
I would give a mid 2nd in this yrs draft
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Seems like this guy is worth like a 4th rounder now
eighsse2
Footballguy
I would say a bit more than that, but not a ton more. Maybe the #24 pick or something. But of course every league is different.
Chaka
Footballguy
Keeper? 1QB redraft? Dynasty startup?
taylormeetstheismann
Footballguy
I want to believe but it’s hard to do so. Maybe he just needs a couple more years to develop into a decent journeyman?
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Still available in the 13th round of a single QB startup. 12 teamer
eighsse2
Footballguy
1QB dynasty rookie draft.
Chaka
Footballguy
He's already "good journeyman" level. But I think there is every reason to be optimistic about him.
He played in two fewer games last season (15-17) but had one more start (11-10), ultimately he played 92 fewer snaps in Harbaugh's ball.control offense.
However, he improved in every metric (Yards, y/r, catch %, yards/target, YAC, ADOT, TDs etc).
After this off-season he seems like a buy to me.
taylormeetstheismann
Footballguy
Quentin Johnston — The journeyman halfway through his rookie contract
I wouldn't assume Johnston isn't the #2 WR just yet. I think its gonna be determined in camp who wins that job. My gut says Harris is least likely just coming from a very college offense. I would bet he starts as the #4 with the potential to move up. I think Williams has the rapport with Herbert, but how much does he have left is a question. I think he's more the fallback option.
I'd bet at least week 1, its:
1. McConkey
2. Johnston
3. Williams
4. Harris
2 through 4 could fluctuate all season. Frankly, I think its a reason why McConkey is a bit underrated.
I'd bet at least week 1, its:
1. McConkey
2. Johnston
3. Williams
4. Harris
2 through 4 could fluctuate all season. Frankly, I think its a reason why McConkey is a bit underrated.
Tau837
Footballguy
Quentin Johnston seems like a buy? Are you saying that because his price is at rock bottom?
WR McConkey will obviously dominate snaps in the slot, though he can also play X and Z.
The team signed WR Mike Williams. He will start and presumably play the most snaps at X.
The team drafted WRs Tre Harris and KeAndre Lambert-Smith. They will play snaps at X and Z.
The team signed TE Conklin, who should upgrade (increase?) the short to intermediate passing game TE targets.
The team drafted TE Gadsden, who should upgrade (increase?) the intermediate to deep passing game TE targets.
The team drafted RB Hampton, who is a good pass catching RB and could increase the passing game RB targets.
Considering all of that, how is Johnston a buy?
