WR Rashee Rice, KC (20 Viewers)

[menobrown]

If Rice, his agent, lawyers, etc. can't get a suspension in the middle of the season, then they'll delay legal proceedings until it's too late to be suspended this year.

He'll likely get something like the first four games of next season. He's not going to want to do four games right before the playoffs.

On the flip/financial side:
He's still on the rookie deal at 2.5mil total the last 2 years and he's spent plenty of it - doesn't make the mega-bucks yet.
He makes more $$ next year 2mil than this year 1.7mil. 4-8 game checks could be a decent difference in lost cost - especially when he'll be paying civil suit six figure NDA payoffs and senator lawyer fees.
Definitely want it resolved before he gets a new deal where he ups it by +30mil/year where the per game checks are immense.

Rice is privileged to be a wealthy athlete who can hire the best defense attorneys.

Understand your point but this will probably be a non-factor as typically the base pay in the first year of a multi-year extension is near the league minimum, plus like we saw with Watson teams are constantly moving base to bonus on their large contracts..

For me I just have a strong guess this gets resolved next off-season and he'll serve his suspension in 2026 but he'll likely be on near league minimum annual pay until the 2028 season so not much in the way of a need to rush on his end to lower games missed money.

I think a more valid point might be that he'd like this resolved before he enters into extension talks with the Chiefs or hits the open market in 2027 so this is not hanging over his head and disrupting negotiations. Might even have motivation to settle the civil suits before he signs an extension and the claimants start seeing extra $$$.

Either way this is a 2026 or later issue.

 

[jtd13]

If Rice, his agent, lawyers, etc. can't get a suspension in the middle of the season, then they'll delay legal proceedings until it's too late to be suspended this year.

He'll likely get something like the first four games of next season. He's not going to want to do four games right before the playoffs.

On the flip/financial side:
He's still on the rookie deal at 2.5mil total the last 2 years and he's spent plenty of it - doesn't make the mega-bucks yet.
He makes more $$ next year 2mil than this year 1.7mil. 4-8 game checks could be a decent difference in lost cost - especially when he'll be paying civil suit six figure NDA payoffs and senator lawyer fees.
Definitely want it resolved before he gets a new deal where he ups it by +30mil/year where the per game checks are immense.

Rice is privileged to be a wealthy athlete who can hire the best defense attorneys.

I doubt it will be 8 games. By the time all the dust settles, some charges will disappear, some civil suits will have been settled to go away, and some lesser charge will be pleaded to.

Based on what we’ve seen in the past my money is on 4, reduced to 3 on appeal or something like that. I could be wrong. The legal types I’ve seen opine on the situation seem to expect something like that.

He did something stupid. It was him & several other people. No one died, no domestic violence, no way to prove drugs or alcohol involved. Most folks with legal background seem to suggest that looks way worse now than it likely will by the time it goes to court.

I’m just a reader like the rest of you. I don’t know what will actually happen. But seeing consensus opinion gave me additional confidence to deal for him. If he gets 8+ games or goes to jail, I will eat crow. But I’m skeptical that happens.

Even 4 would mildly surprise me. smart money has been on no suspension in 2025 for a while, and now it sounds like that is the more widely accepted expectation.

I am fairly bullish on Rice. I gave Odunze for him in a dynasty league. Feels like if there's a guy that takes a step into arsb range this year he's the best bet. Not saying that happens, just that he'd be my first guess if you told me someone took a similar jump.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

If Rice, his agent, lawyers, etc. can't get a suspension in the middle of the season, then they'll delay legal proceedings until it's too late to be suspended this year.

He'll likely get something like the first four games of next season. He's not going to want to do four games right before the playoffs.

On the flip/financial side:
He's still on the rookie deal at 2.5mil total the last 2 years and he's spent plenty of it - doesn't make the mega-bucks yet.
He makes more $$ next year 2mil than this year 1.7mil. 4-8 game checks could be a decent difference in lost cost - especially when he'll be paying civil suit six figure NDA payoffs and senator lawyer fees.
Definitely want it resolved before he gets a new deal where he ups it by +30mil/year where the per game checks are immense.

Rice is privileged to be a wealthy athlete who can hire the best defense attorneys.

I doubt it will be 8 games. By the time all the dust settles, some charges will disappear, some civil suits will have been settled to go away, and some lesser charge will be pleaded to.

Based on what we’ve seen in the past my money is on 4, reduced to 3 on appeal or something like that. I could be wrong. The legal types I’ve seen opine on the situation seem to expect something like that.

He did something stupid. It was him & several other people. No one died, no domestic violence, no way to prove drugs or alcohol involved. Most folks with legal background seem to suggest that looks way worse now than it likely will by the time it goes to court.

I’m just a reader like the rest of you. I don’t know what will actually happen. But seeing consensus opinion gave me additional confidence to deal for him. If he gets 8+ games or goes to jail, I will eat crow. But I’m skeptical that happens.

Even 4 would mildly surprise me. smart money has been on no suspension in 2025 for a while, and now it sounds like that is the more widely accepted expectation.

I am fairly bullish on Rice. I have Odunze for him in a dynasty league. Feels like if there's a guy that takes a step into arsb range this year he's the best bet. Not saying that happens, just that he'd be my first guess if you told me someone took a similar jump.

Yeah I meant 2026

 

[joey]

no clue. Won’t claim to know anything or even bother guessing.
I roster him in 1 dynasty league and plan on holding

 

[FarFromHome]

no clue. Won’t claim to know anything or even bother guessing.
I roster him in 1 dynasty league and plan on holding

Have you seen the movie My Cousin Vinny? If you have, you're definitely qualified to comment.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Feels like if there's a guy that takes a step into arsb range this year he's the best bet. Not saying that happens, just that he'd be my first guess if you told me someone took a similar jump.

I believe his ceiling is to join the 2nd tier of WR, possibly the Lamb/JJ tier.

Depends on whether his preposterous target share start to the season was an outlier or the norm.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Either way this is a 2026 or later issue.

Exactly. With all the info out there it’s wild to me that folks are still in here suggesting 1. It was a blown out knee, and 2. He’s looking at a 2025 suspension.

#1 has been proved to be utterly false, and #2 seems very unlikely at this point. And there’s quite a bit of precedent to support that.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

no clue. Won’t claim to know anything or even bother guessing.
I roster him in 1 dynasty league and plan on holding

Have you seen the movie My Cousin Vinny? If you have, you're definitely qualified to comment.

2 youts

 

[menobrown]

Either way this is a 2026 or later issue.

Exactly. With all the info out there it’s wild to me that folks are still in here suggesting 1. It was a blown out knee, and 2. He’s looking at a 2025 suspension.

#1 has been proved to be utterly false, and #2 seems very unlikely at this point. And there’s quite a bit of precedent to support that.

It is wild, just not sure which one is crazier. Almost feel like people are trying to gaslight people with these concerns.

League publicly already said they would wait for the legal process to conclude and in October it was clearly reported he had only an LCL injury on his knee, not an ACL or PCL, and the recovery timeframe was just 4 months.

What are we doing here?

Can't recall a player or instance were so many people just refused to accept reality.

 

[joey]

no clue. Won’t claim to know anything or even bother guessing.
I roster him in 1 dynasty league and plan on holding

Have you seen the movie My Cousin Vinny? If you have, you're definitely qualified to comment.

2 youts

“The defense is wrong!”

Not only have I seen it (maybe the courtroom scenes 100 times) but my wife and I dressed up like them for Halloween one year: Me in black sports jacket, silver belt buckle and cowboy boots, and her in the purple dress with the diagonal rivets all down the front. Va-va-boom! it was awesome.

As a kid who grew up in Brooklyn til I was 20, Marisa Tomei in that movie was basically the ideal woman.

Wait, what were we talking about?

 

[TheWinz]

Mrs Reilly, and only Mrs. Reilly, how many fingers am I holding up now?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

As a kid who grew up in Brooklyn til I was 20, Marisa Tomei in that movie was basically the ideal woman.

Bro, as Aunt May in Spider-Man she’s still the ideal woman!

Signed,

—54

 

[FarFromHome]

no clue. Won’t claim to know anything or even bother guessing.
I roster him in 1 dynasty league and plan on holding

Have you seen the movie My Cousin Vinny? If you have, you're definitely qualified to comment.

2 youts

“The defense is wrong!”

Not only have I seen it (maybe the courtroom scenes 100 times) but my wife and I dressed up like them for Halloween one year: Me in black sports jacket, silver belt buckle and cowboy boots, and her in the purple dress with the diagonal rivets all down the front. Va-va-boom! it was awesome.

As a kid who grew up in Brooklyn til I was 20, Marisa Tomei in that movie was basically the ideal woman.

Wait, what were we talking about?

See. Your good. Comment away. Ha ha

 

[joey]

no clue. Won’t claim to know anything or even bother guessing.
I roster him in 1 dynasty league and plan on holding

Have you seen the movie My Cousin Vinny? If you have, you're definitely qualified to comment.

2 youts

“The defense is wrong!”

Not only have I seen it (maybe the courtroom scenes 100 times) but my wife and I dressed up like them for Halloween one year: Me in black sports jacket, silver belt buckle and cowboy boots, and her in the purple dress with the diagonal rivets all down the front. Va-va-boom! it was awesome.

As a kid who grew up in Brooklyn til I was 20, Marisa Tomei in that movie was basically the ideal woman.

Wait, what were we talking about?

See. Your good. Comment away. Ha ha

Ok. My opinion on Rice since I’m “qualified”…

Can’t draft him at current ADP without posi-traction.

 

[darksideofoz]

no clue. Won’t claim to know anything or even bother guessing.
I roster him in 1 dynasty league and plan on holding

Have you seen the movie My Cousin Vinny? If you have, you're definitely qualified to comment.

2 youts

“The defense is wrong!”

Not only have I seen it (maybe the courtroom scenes 100 times) but my wife and I dressed up like them for Halloween one year: Me in black sports jacket, silver belt buckle and cowboy boots, and her in the purple dress with the diagonal rivets all down the front. Va-va-boom! it was awesome.

As a kid who grew up in Brooklyn til I was 20, Marisa Tomei in that movie was basically the ideal woman.

Wait, what were we talking about?

See. Your good. Comment away. Ha ha

Ok. My opinion on Rice since I’m “qualified”…

Can’t draft him at current ADP without posi-traction.

at least you can't claim his biological clock is ticking as a reason to not draft at current adp

 

[yellowboardog]

Either way this is a 2026 or later issue.

Exactly. With all the info out there it’s wild to me that folks are still in here suggesting 1. It was a blown out knee, and 2. He’s looking at a 2025 suspension.

#1 has been proved to be utterly false, and #2 seems very unlikely at this point. And there’s quite a bit of precedent to support that.

It is wild, just not sure which one is crazier. Almost feel like people are trying to gaslight people with these concerns.

League publicly already said they would wait for the legal process to conclude and in October it was clearly reported he had only an LCL injury on his knee, not an ACL or PCL, and the recovery timeframe was just 4 months.

What are we doing here?

Can't recall a player or instance were so many people just refused to accept reality.

Sammy Watkins

 

[yellowboardog]

The 2026 court date only makes the keeper debate tougher.

IMO a no brainer this year.... but maybe another player is the better call on a 2 year lease.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

The 2026 court date only makes the keeper debate tougher.

IMO a no brainer this year.... but maybe another player is the better call on a 2 year lease.

I traded for him in a dynasty league. A future suspension is baked into the price.

Lot of players miss a few games. Better a suspension than an injury.

 

[Faust]

Scott Barrett
Rashee Rice looking fully healthy

Not too many dudes in the league who can move like this

https://x.com/scottbarrettdfb/status/1943346641102114894?s=61

 

[menobrown]

Scott Barrett
Rashee Rice looking fully healthy

Not too many dudes in the league who can move like this

https://x.com/scottbarrettdfb/status/1943346641102114894?s=61

If anyone watching that video likes what they see I highly recommend you drafting Elijah Moore.

 

[ProstheticRGK]

Scott Barrett
Rashee Rice looking fully healthy

Not too many dudes in the league who can move like this

https://x.com/scottbarrettdfb/status/1943346641102114894?s=61

If anyone watching that video likes what they see I highly recommend you drafting Elijah Moore.

Shhhhh!

 

[kyoun1e]

Seeing this guy being drafted as high as Round 2. I feel like baked into his price is coming back right where he left off before his injury.

Hard price to pay for me. Worthy is bound to take a step up (and is cheaper). That said, Kelce probably takes a step back.

 

[rockaction]

Scott Barrett
Rashee Rice looking fully healthy

Not too many dudes in the league who can move like this

https://x.com/scottbarrettdfb/status/1943346641102114894?s=61

If anyone watching that video likes what they see I highly recommend you drafting Elijah Moore.

He's a big guy coming off of major surgery. Scott Barrett is a really good fantasy guy. Isn't he the guy that won a few cool million in a best ball tourney two years ago? I think he is. He's from Fantasy Points. He's pretty darn good with stats and other things.

Yeah, Barrett is excellent. That doesn't make him a doctor, but I loved seeing that from Rice.

I do know what you're getting at with the drill thing and how they're supposed to look that good and quick, but I think that was really positive. Better that than immobile with a huge scar (I roster Rice in dynasty in one league) on his leg.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Seeing this guy being drafted as high as Round 2. I feel like baked into his price is coming back right where he left off before his injury.

Hard price to pay for me. Worthy is bound to take a step up (and is cheaper). That said, Kelce probably takes a step back.

Doing a startup 12 teamer - we’re at 3.04 and he’s still on the board.

 

[rockaction]

Seeing this guy being drafted as high as Round 2. I feel like baked into his price is coming back right where he left off before his injury.

Hard price to pay for me. Worthy is bound to take a step up (and is cheaper). That said, Kelce probably takes a step back.

Doing a startup 13 teamer - we’re at 3.04 and he’s still on the board.

Aroo? 13 teams?

You hoping Rice falls?

eta* Oh, startup. Not sure how far he's really fallen. Haven't been keeping up with dynasty ADP. Sorry.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Seeing this guy being drafted as high as Round 2. I feel like baked into his price is coming back right where he left off before his injury.

Hard price to pay for me. Worthy is bound to take a step up (and is cheaper). That said, Kelce probably takes a step back.

Doing a startup 13 teamer - we’re at 3.04 and he’s still on the board.

Aroo? 13 teams?

You hoping Rice falls?

eta* Oh, startup. Not sure how far he's really fallen. Haven't been keeping up with dynasty ADP. Sorry.

12 teams. Typo.

 

[rockaction]

Seeing this guy being drafted as high as Round 2. I feel like baked into his price is coming back right where he left off before his injury.

Hard price to pay for me. Worthy is bound to take a step up (and is cheaper). That said, Kelce probably takes a step back.

Doing a startup 13 teamer - we’re at 3.04 and he’s still on the board.

Aroo? 13 teams?

You hoping Rice falls?

eta* Oh, startup. Not sure how far he's really fallen. Haven't been keeping up with dynasty ADP. Sorry.

12 teams. Typo.

Oh, okay. I thought this must be a newfangled format because you sounded like you really wanted to specify the amount of teams. "Yeah, I'm a 27 dream teamer and we got our draft going, folks!"

 

[menobrown]

Scott Barrett
Rashee Rice looking fully healthy

Not too many dudes in the league who can move like this

https://x.com/scottbarrettdfb/status/1943346641102114894?s=61

If anyone watching that video likes what they see I highly recommend you drafting Elijah Moore.

He's a big guy coming off of major surgery. Scott Barrett is a really good fantasy guy. Isn't he the guy that won a few cool million in a best ball tourney two years ago? I think he is. He's from Fantasy Points. He's pretty darn good with stats and other things.

Yeah, Barrett is excellent. That doesn't make him a doctor, but I loved seeing that from Rice.

I do know what you're getting at with the drill thing and how they're supposed to look that good and quick, but I think that was really positive. Better that than immobile with a huge scar (I roster Rice in dynasty in one league) on his leg.

It’s not Rice in that video

 

[rockaction]

Scott Barrett
Rashee Rice looking fully healthy

Not too many dudes in the league who can move like this

https://x.com/scottbarrettdfb/status/1943346641102114894?s=61

If anyone watching that video likes what they see I highly recommend you drafting Elijah Moore.

He's a big guy coming off of major surgery. Scott Barrett is a really good fantasy guy. Isn't he the guy that won a few cool million in a best ball tourney two years ago? I think he is. He's from Fantasy Points. He's pretty darn good with stats and other things.

Yeah, Barrett is excellent. That doesn't make him a doctor, but I loved seeing that from Rice.

I do know what you're getting at with the drill thing and how they're supposed to look that good and quick, but I think that was really positive. Better that than immobile with a huge scar (I roster Rice in dynasty in one league) on his leg.

It’s not Rice in that video

That is just ducky. LOL.

eta* just stop when you're ahead, rock.

 

[scothawk]

Scott Barrett
Rashee Rice looking fully healthy

Not too many dudes in the league who can move like this

https://x.com/scottbarrettdfb/status/1943346641102114894?s=61

If anyone watching that video likes what they see I highly recommend you drafting Elijah Moore.

He's a big guy coming off of major surgery. Scott Barrett is a really good fantasy guy. Isn't he the guy that won a few cool million in a best ball tourney two years ago? I think he is. He's from Fantasy Points. He's pretty darn good with stats and other things.

Yeah, Barrett is excellent. That doesn't make him a doctor, but I loved seeing that from Rice.

I do know what you're getting at with the drill thing and how they're supposed to look that good and quick, but I think that was really positive. Better that than immobile with a huge scar (I roster Rice in dynasty in one league) on his leg.

It’s not Rice in that video

His attorney is currently working on the same argument for other issues.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Just got my 2nd share at pick 4.09 in a 12-team SF start-up. Let’s go!

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Honestly I think 4.09 is about the right price with the baked-in risk of suspension. His start-up ADP the last ~3 weeks is 41 (33-52) and dude at the 1.01 spot said if I hadn’t taken him 4.09 he woulda at 4.12 assuming he fell. I landed him at 44, he wouldn’t have made it past 48-49.

I could see his price rising, but getting him as my WR3, I’m pretty pleased.

I expected him to go higher based on discussion in here - maybe that was more redraft-centric, but i would think he’d go earlier in a start-up format.

 

[Dez]

It's dynasty a risk of suspension shouldn't factor in much. Talking a few games out of a career.

 

[JohnnyU]

It's dynasty a risk of suspension shouldn't factor in much. Talking a few games out of a career.

I’d be more worried about another boneheaded action on his part.

 

[IHEARTFF]

5 yr probation, 30 days jail time.
Now we wait for the 4-6 game suspension imo.

 

[menobrown]

5 yr probation, 30 days jail time.
Now we wait for the 4-6 game suspension imo.

WTF? I thought just his civil trial was coming up.

 

[IHEARTFF]

5 yr probation, 30 days jail time.
Now we wait for the 4-6 game suspension imo.

WTF? I thought just his civil trial was coming up.

Yeah, that seemed to come out of nowhere. Word is KC is expecting 2-4 games, which could be realistic, maybe slightly optimistic.

 

[Kiddnets]

perhaps they expedited figuring it gives him a few extra weeks to be 100%.

 

[menobrown]

perhaps they expedited figuring it gives him a few extra weeks to be 100%.

I think he passed that mark a few months ago.

 

[Ilov80s]

perhaps they expedited figuring it gives him a few extra weeks to be 100%.

It’s definitely not the worst time for a few extra weeks rest but by all accounts he is already 100% and a full go. His injury was a LCL tear and not ACL, MCL, etc. The time table for recovering LCL is more like 6 months compared to the 9-12 we see with other knee tears.

 

[warpig33]

5 years probation AND 30 days jail time? Could be a decent suspension coming down from the NFL. Certainly 4 - 6 I would think at least.

 

[Joe Bryant]

From our Footballguys Legal Guy Drew Davenport:

https://x.com/DrewDavenportFF/status/1945884075220431120

My off-the-cuff take on Rashee Rice is that he likely gets 2-4 games, but 4 feels right to me.

As for the case finishing this quickly with no knowledge of an open case - the most likely explanation is something I have alluded to before - there was a Diversion opportunity or a pre-indictment deal worked out (pleading to a Bill of Information).

The fact that no media was aware of a case and no case number showed up on the website points to one of those outcomes.However, the fact that if he complies his case gets dismissed says this is Diversion. I just don’t know if I can trust Schefter’s language to be precise but that’s what this says to me.

That’s the best I can do before I have to be back in court in 30 minutes. I’ll give a full #FFLegalUpdate as soon as I can.

 

[Scoresman]

Now we see how his ADP changes accordingly. He was creeping up too high, now will he be a value spending on timing of suspension?

 

[Scoresman]

Also, a little frustrating reading all the legal expert takes saying this was going to be delayed until after the season and now we get this. Are the legal takes just educated guesses?

 

[TheDirtyWord]

Also, a little frustrating reading all the legal expert takes saying this was going to be delayed until after the season and now we get this. Are the legal takes just educated guesses?

On the flip side...I'm sure Rice didn't want this hovering over next seasons contract extension negotiations. So settling expediently made financial sense.

 

[JoeJoe88]

5 yr probation, 30 days jail time.
Now we wait for the 4-6 game suspension imo.

WTF? I thought just his civil trial was coming up.

Yeah, that seemed to come out of nowhere. Word is KC is expecting 2-4 games, which could be realistic, maybe slightly optimistic.

2-4 seems optimistic.

 

[JohnnyU]

5 yr probation, 30 days jail time.
Now we wait for the 4-6 game suspension imo.

A slice of humble pie.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

5 years probation AND 30 days jail time? Could be a decent suspension coming down from the NFL. Certainly 4 - 6 I would think at least.

If you read the article his 30 days can be served at any time during the 5 years, AND if it is determined that he’s serving his probation adequately the 30 days can be waived.

He’s unlikely to serve a single day in jail.

He’ll probably get 2-4 game suspension. I’m sticking with my original 4 reduced to 3 on appeal.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Also, a little frustrating reading all the legal expert takes saying this was going to be delayed until after the season and now we get this. Are the legal takes just educated guesses?

Everything predicting future outcomes are guesses, some more educated than others.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Now we see how his ADP changes accordingly. He was creeping up too high, now will he be a value spending on timing of suspension?

I believe the suspension was already baked into his ADP. I landed him as my WR3 at 4.09 in a 12-team start-up.

Without this hanging over him he’s likely a 2nd round pick.