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WR T.Y. Hilton, DAL (1 Viewer)

Not to try to raise panic or anything because I honestly have no idea, but the fact it's being reported as a foot sprain as opposed to an ankle sprain has me a little spooked the rest of the season. Every time I hear foot sprain, I think of midfoot sprains or something to do with the arch.

I know Dr. Jene tweeted the following last night, but hopefully we'll hear more from him on the subject once there's more info available because he would obviously know a lot more than I would.

Jene Bramel ‏@JeneBramel 18h18 hours ago
Jene Bramel Retweeted Ian Rapoport

Hilton not moving well in OT, but haven't seen clear mechanism for injury on review. Hard to handicap w/o more info.

 
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Yes that's what I was posting about. The mysterious foot sprain. Eagerly awaiting to hear about Mri results today. I've got a trade offer sitting out there for Hilton and woodhead for Cobb. If Hilton is healthy is accept that in a heartbeat.

 
Could be anything. Mid-foot would be worst case scenario, but it could also be turf toe, tibialis posterior irritation, plantar fasciitis, etc. NFL teams can be tricky and they could be just tossing out "foot sprain" so the opponents have no idea how long he is out.

 
Willie Neslon said:
Honestly hoping he sits. Brutal matchup and he's dinged. Take this week and the bye and get healthy for the stretch drive.
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What stretch drive? If they wave the white flag here, their season is toast.

yes, they probably somehow still win their miserable division, but one way or the other, this team looks like a good candidate to rest players( pack it in...wink wink) come weeks 16-17.

 
Shutout said:
Willie Neslon said:
Honestly hoping he sits. Brutal matchup and he's dinged. Take this week and the bye and get healthy for the stretch drive.
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What stretch drive? If they wave the white flag here, their season is toast.

yes, they probably somehow still win their miserable division, but one way or the other, this team looks like a good candidate to rest players( pack it in...wink wink) come weeks 16-17.
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That made no sense to me. If they win their miserable division - how are they packing it in come weeks 16-17?

 
I have an awful feeling (and its 100% feeling, no actual evidence) that his or sprain is a lis franc and they are being tight lipped while evaluating what their next move with him will be based on the severity.

 
rickyg said:
I have an awful feeling (and its 100% feeling, no actual evidence) that his or sprain is a lis franc and they are being tight lipped while evaluating what their next move with him will be based on the severity.
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My spidey sense is up too, just based on them being so weird with injuries this year. Picked up Andre Johnson just in case. With Chud coming on board, Hilton hurt, offense may be different coming out of bye in a couple weeks.

 
killface said:
I just don't think he is that good overall as a wr.  He's lucky to have Luck
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I think he is very under rated but I get it. You probably feel about him the way I feel about a guy like DJAX. I don't think DJAX is anything special at all (just 1st guy that came to mind). But, at the end of the Fantasy day, he's a difference maker.

 
King of the Jungle said:
I feel like this guy is being vastly underrated (based on some of the trades I have seen him involved in). He is going to have a great year if Luck stays healthy.
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From a redraft standpoint, he's seen his ADP drop from around WR12 last year to WR17 this year. I've never been a huge fan, but his upside and volume in this offense gives him a pretty good chance of outperforming his ADP. Just for fun, who would you rank him above given FBG 5/23 ADP?

Antonio Brown 

Odell Beckham Jr 

Julio Jones 

DeAndre Hopkins 

Dez Bryant 

Allen Robinson 

A.J. Green 

Jordy Nelson 

Alshon Jeffery 

Amari Cooper 

Mike Evans 

Sammy Watkins 

Keenan Allen 

Brandin Cooks 

Brandon Marshall 

Demaryius Thomas 

T.Y. Hilton 

I felt like WR17 was pretty low, but I only see a few names I'd drop below Hilton.

 
I might move him up to 15 on that list (one due to QB situation and team and the other due to injuries) and he's definitely a guy who could catch a hot streak with Luck and skyrocket up that board but I guess the thing I'd take into consideration most on that list is that it's a relative list. He might be 17 but 17 might be a huge gap from the guy that 23 on that list. 

There are guys like Allen Hurns and Crabtree and Floyd that a lot of people might stick right in the mix with Hilton but some of those guys' numbers might be much harder to be sustainable.  Hilton can come out on any given week (with Luck) and be two plays away from a 25 point day.  Its that quick strike ability that puts him over.

 
Shutout said:
I might move him up to 15 on that list (one due to QB situation and team and the other due to injuries) and he's definitely a guy who could catch a hot streak with Luck and skyrocket up that board but I guess the thing I'd take into consideration most on that list is that it's a relative list. He might be 17 but 17 might be a huge gap from the guy that 23 on that list. 

There are guys like Allen Hurns and Crabtree and Floyd that a lot of people might stick right in the mix with Hilton but some of those guys' numbers might be much harder to be sustainable.  Hilton can come out on any given week (with Luck) and be two plays away from a 25 point day.  Its that quick strike ability that puts him over.
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15 sounds very reasonable. I'd easily bump him up over Cooks and Thomas. FWIW, here are the guys with ADP below him (18-36):

Kelvin Benjamin 

Randall Cobb 

Jarvis Landry 

Julian Edelman 

Jeremy Maclin 

Golden Tate 

Doug Baldwin 

Michael Floyd 

Jordan Matthews 

DeVante Parker 

Allen Hurns 

Emmanuel Sanders 

Eric Decker 

Larry Fitzgerald 

John Brown 

Kevin White 

Donte Moncrief 

Tyler Lockett 

Michael Crabtree 

 
FF Ninja said:
From a redraft standpoint, he's seen his ADP drop from around WR12 last year to WR17 this year. I've never been a huge fan, but his upside and volume in this offense gives him a pretty good chance of outperforming his ADP. Just for fun, who would you rank him above given FBG 5/23 ADP?

Antonio Brown 

Odell Beckham Jr 

Julio Jones 

DeAndre Hopkins 

Dez Bryant 

Allen Robinson 

A.J. Green 

Jordy Nelson 

Alshon Jeffery 

Amari Cooper 

Mike Evans 

Sammy Watkins 

Keenan Allen 

Brandin Cooks 

Brandon Marshall 

Demaryius Thomas 

T.Y. Hilton 

I felt like WR17 was pretty low, but I only see a few names I'd drop below Hilton.
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I think Hilton is out produced by Antonio Brown, Odell Beckham, Julio Jones, DeAndre Hopkins, Dez Bryant, Allen Robinson, AJ Green, Alshon Jeffrey, Mike Evans, Sammy Watkins (health pending of course). That puts him at 11 for me.

 
 

T.Y. Hilton said he's "more motivated, more hungry" entering this season.
"I've never seen this guy practice as fast as he's practicing right now," coach Chuck Pagano said. "He’s done it day in and day out." Hilton had a bit of a down year last season, posting a three-year low with 69 catches, but was able to turn them into 1,124 yards and five scores, playing half the season with Matt Hasselbeck and Ryan Lindley. With Andrew Luck back healthy, Hilton, along with the rest of this offense, is probably being overlooked at the moment.

 
 
Source: Indianapolis Star 
May 25 - 10:58 AM
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Shutout said:
I think he is very under rated but I get it. You probably feel about him the way I feel about a guy like DJAX. I don't think DJAX is anything special at all (just 1st guy that came to mind). But, at the end of the Fantasy day, he's a difference maker.
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I feel the same way about Djax.  I also feel the same way about Cobb.  I just think he is a guy that has a very mediocre career without rodgers

 
According to the Indianapolis Star's Zak Keefer, T.Y. Hilton has been the best player at Colts' OTAs and "could be in line for a career year."
Receivers and defensive backs shine the most in non-contact settings, so it's not surprising Hilton is standing out. But Hilton is coming off a down season where his deep speed was rendered useless half the year by Matt Hasselbeck's noodle arm. The entire Colts offense is flying a bit under the radar.

 
 
Source: Indianapolis Star 
Jun 13 - 7:22 PM
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King of the Jungle said:
I feel like this guy is being vastly underrated (based on some of the trades I have seen him involved in). He is going to have a great year if Luck stays healthy.
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What have you seen him go for that seems low? I am thinking about making an offer for Hilton in a Dynasty league and just curious as to the low end of his going price. :unsure:

 
whiskey7 said:
What have you seen him go for that seems low? I am thinking about making an offer for Hilton in a Dynasty league and just curious as to the low end of his going price. :unsure:
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You can fish through the Dyno trades thread...this offseason when his name popped up in there he just appeared undervalued. 

 
I agree I've been getting terrible offers for him. Hunter Henry or a mid 2017 1 as examples. A lot of people trying to "buy low" right now. Not selling.

 
Faust said:
According to the Indianapolis Star's Zak Keefer, T.Y. Hilton has been the best player at Colts' OTAs and "could be in line for a career year."
Receivers and defensive backs shine the most in non-contact settings, so it's not surprising Hilton is standing out. But Hilton is coming off a down season where his deep speed was rendered useless half the year by Matt Hasselbeck's noodle arm. The entire Colts offense is flying a bit under the radar.
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No player on the Colts’ 90-man roster flashed more in recent weeks than Hilton. And no player has to be more excited about the return of No. 12 than No. 13, whose skill set was hampered last season after Luck went down and the downfield threat disappeared. This spring, with Luck back under center, Hilton has starred.

“T.Y.’s had as good an offseason as anybody,” Pagano gushed a few weeks back. “I’ve never seen this guy practice as fast as he is right now and compete at the level he is.”

Hilton admitted he was ticked off about last season, about watching the playoffs from home for the first time in his four-year career. When he returned to the field, he dueled Pro Bowl cornerback Vontae Davis for much of the spring. Hilton won more than his fair share.

Also of note: Hilton is no longer just the No. 1 target. He’s the elder statesman in the receivers room for the first time in his career — Andre Johnson and Reggie Wayne owned that distinction in years past. Hilton must deliver this season, and he knows it. Watch out. No. 13 could be in line for a career year.
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Any new thoughts here? I really think the Colts will be flinging it a lot under Chud as OC.

But Moncrief is being talked about as the new no. 1, plus Dorsett could emerge.

 
Moncrief isn't the number 1. No way.  The hype on him confuses me.  What has ye done to show he will unseat Hilton? 

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Any new thoughts here? I really think the Colts will be flinging it a lot under Chud as OC.

But Moncrief is being talked about as the new no. 1, plus Dorsett could emerge.
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I hear the Colts defense is swiss cheese. Vegas thinks its one of the highest scoring games week one. They should be playing from behind a lot again this year.

 
A lot of people don't trust Hilton because of his build.  Every time a new WR shows up on the Colts roster with a bigger physique, they are quick to latch on with something like "He'll overtake T.Y. as the number one before long"

T.Y. just keeps ripping up DBs like he has since his rookie year.  4,400 yds and 24 TDs in 4 years.  If he was 6'4" those same people would be drafting him at half the number he's going at now (around 14th WR off the board according to FBG averages) with Luck back at full strength this year.

I like Moncrief, too.  I just don't think T.Y. is going anywhere when it comes to the #1 in Indy, barring injury.

 
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Judge Smails said:
1100 yards and 6 TD's a year doesn't make him elite.  That's in a group of 20 guys in the 2nd tier.
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For his first four years in the League?  Those are great stats.  I believe his yards for his first four years puts him top 10 in the modern era. (edit - looked it up - it's 6th)

His last full year with Luck he had 1,300/7 in 15 games.  My point wasn't that he was "elite", where ever you set that bar for a 3rd year WR (the year he put up those stats), it's that I believe he should be going higher than 14th in the WR pool, and that there seems to be constant chatter every year of him losing the #1 spot in Indy, even though he has shown no signs of giving it up.  I think if he was a bigger dude, he'd be going much higher in drafts from what I've heard in draft rooms and local drafts I've been to.  Don't get me wrong - not everyone is saying this, but I've heard it enough.

*Edited* to add that over the last four years he's 8th in total yards receiving and 19th in TDs.  I wouldn't say that puts him in the "elite" category, but I'd argue it's pretty close, considering those 4 years include last year with Hasselbeck and his rookie season.  I'm not saying he's Julio Jones - just that I believe he's undervalued.

 
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I was listening to the fantasy sports channel on Sirius XM and they were talking about the likelihood that Hilton will be shadowed by Lions CB Darius Slay on Sunday.

 
T.Y. Hilton caught 6-of-12 targets for 79 yards in the Colts' Week 1 loss to the Lions.
The bad news is this isn't quite what fantasy owners would have liked in a game where Andrew Luck threw four touchdown passes and for nearly 400 yards. The good news is Hilton remained the Colts' clear-cut No. 1 receiver, drawing a team-high 12 targets while Donte Moncrief only saw seven. The sledding for Hilton will get tougher when the Colts face Chris Harris' Broncos in Week 2.

 
 
 
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A little worried about the matchup this week. Sitting him in one league for Fitzgerald, starting him more than likely in another, and thinking about benching him for Yeldon in another. Yes, somehow I ended up with Hilton on 3 re-draft teams.

 
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