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WR Tetairoa McMillan, CAR (5 Viewers)
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He's a massive steal if he makes it to either of them in my eyes.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I hear from anonymous sources that McMillan has interviewed horribly for a lot of these NFL teams
Could be just roughing him up so he falls down the boards but the word is he doesn't get off the LOS fast enough mostly due to his lack of focus and enthusiasm
He's terrific after the catch but his college coaches could not maximize his abilities is the word around Colin Cowherd I'll name drop him
I don't know that it's true but this is a guy you could see drop a little in the 1st round
Could be just roughing him up so he falls down the boards but the word is he doesn't get off the LOS fast enough mostly due to his lack of focus and enthusiasm
He's terrific after the catch but his college coaches could not maximize his abilities is the word around Colin Cowherd I'll name drop him
I don't know that it's true but this is a guy you could see drop a little in the 1st round
warpig33
Footballguy
Assuming he falls, who rises? Burden? Egubka (sp)?
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Burden seems like the guy rising at the moment.
Egubka feels more like a No 2 type but that still opens to door to many teams especially at the back end of the 1st
greenmountaingoat
Footballguy
FWIW, the RSP film and data pod that Waldman hosts had Dwain McFarland on and there was quite a bit of material on McMillan (and Burden). Worth a listen.
In his defense of a lack of enthusiasm, Arizona was an absolute garbage team, that he 100% carried. Him and Jonah Savaiinaea are probably the only 2 guys who will be drafted from Arizona. McMillan had 1,319 receiving yards last year, the next highest Wildcat had 323.
pinkstapler
Footballguy
Great one, just listened this morning. McFarland especially seemed to agree with the McShay claims. Said it explained a lot of the same stuff he saw on tape that he was dinging Tet for. They both still have him at WR5 I believe, but that is a far cry from the seemingly unanimous WR1 he has been the past few months.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Steve Smiff has him as WR5 as well.
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
He will probably move up but I have him at 10 right now
-OZ-
Footballguy
I assumed he was my pick at 4 but might go Loveland now
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Kmet isn’t going anywhere
-OZ-
Footballguy
Maybe. But how much does he really harm Loveland?
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Quite a bit.. Probably hurts both.
-OZ-
Footballguy
I’m not too worried, usually we don’t draft TEs for their first couple years anyway.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
People in fantasy don’t have that kind of patience
-OZ-
Footballguy
Many don’t, that’s true.
sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
You don't like the destination enough to take him 1.4, or you think he'll be taken top 3 now?
I'm at the 1.3 &1.5 and my initial reaction is great, maybe this convinces someone else to take him 2nd or 4th. With that said, I need to do more due diligence before I pass on a top 10 drafted WR, especially if he's there at 1.5.
-OZ-
Footballguy
I had thought he goes to 3 but really
don’t know what to think now with Hampton in LA and golden in Green Bay. Hunter is the real Wild card whose value only increased by Jacksonville moving up for him
Soulfly3
Footballguy
golden drops even further than I had him originally. so many mouths to feed
-OZ-
Footballguy
I think his variance increases. Green Bay needs an alpha but is he that alpha? Or is he just another mouth to feed? If he reaches his potential, I think he can be that top dog. But I would have liked him better with the chargers, commanders or bills just among those teams in that range.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
Golden needs a yr to develop in the NFL, I really don't see Watson there much longer and Doubs impresses at time but also disappears a lot
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
I don't see him in the top 3 anymore, questionable QB and questionable work ethic from the rookie WR is not a good
Ilov80s
Footballguy
If you don’t like the player, I get that. But the landing spot was probably near the best it could have been imo. Avoids having to play with a clearly better receiver who will command more targets like Nabers, Brian Thomas, Bowers, Wilson. Avoids QB hell like Browns, Saints, Jets. Patriots would have been a good spot for Tet as well. I guess the Cowboys too but now he’s falling out of the top 10.
zamboni
Footballguy
I also think it's a good spot, but may have to wait a bit. Old man Thielen will still get a fair amount of targets, as will Legette and Coker. Plus they seem pretty committed to the run game, so not sure the volume will be there. I can see him as a stash away guy that can start paying dividends in the back half of the year.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Yeah I don’t think he’s instantly a top 20WR, was more of a dynasty opinion. Feels like he walked into a good spot to build a good career on.
pinkstapler
Footballguy
Soon as they made that pick I was hoping for Coker owners to feel a bit lower; because I think the opposite. Tet will draw coverage and be schemed against, making Cokers job easier. And I think he'll reap some of the benefit of Theilen declining/being phased down (won't say out, but think he won't be seeing the target numbers he had the past two years there). This is also colored by the fact I don't think Tet will ever reach the Drake London level of play he kept getting comped to the past few months.
zamboni
Footballguy
I agree that Coker will see reduced coverage, but I don't see a ton of volume going his way with Tet and Legette also there (even assuming Thielen is phased out) and a commitment to the run game. Not sure if the Panthers run a ton of 3 or 4 WR sets, but I don't see Coker on the field much in 2 WR sets unless he really continues to outplay Legette.
ETA: they also seem pretty high on Ja'Tavion Sanders at TE,
pinkstapler
Footballguy
Definitely fair, and yes it's 100% based on me thinking Coker passes Legette and gets run in 2WR sets. I think Legette has poor catch traits that'll keep his efficiency low as he clap attacks balls/lets them get into his pads. Gotta do better than 50% catch rate I think to hold off Coker. Plus I just think Coker is the better route runner. I see Legette more or less being the clear out, jump ball specialist. Perfect world would have them running more 3 WR sets with Tet now set to be WR1.
steelcityman
Footballguy
Why would he not continue to outplay Leggett? He's the better WR. I think he will be a solid WR2 there, but nothing outrageous, they are still the Panthers afterall. Coker is a nice end of the bench WR on FF rosters.
zamboni
Footballguy
It’s also possible that Legette improves. Not banking on that but sometimes guys don’t adjust to the pro game as quickly as others.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Tet McMillan told teams on interviews that he doesn't watch much football and doesn't like to watch film or sit in the film room
His words not MoP and he was blunt about it according to Russini who made her way around the talk circuit yesterday in that silky blouse she had on
She actually spit out some decent tidbits yesterday, alerted everyone to Jax being a team that was on the move be it up or down
She was right since they were one of the few that traded within the 1st round.
It's not a good sign that he doesn't study film and didn't feel like it was a good idea when teams talked to him about it.
Imagine sitting there and telling teams you're not interested in watching film, at least he was honest
And of course he lands on the Panthers, that info meant nothing to them and that's why they keep picking in the top 5-10 every year
I'm simply repeating what Russini talked about on Dan LeBatard, and she's been eerily spot on with some of her info much to my dismay
His words not MoP and he was blunt about it according to Russini who made her way around the talk circuit yesterday in that silky blouse she had on
She actually spit out some decent tidbits yesterday, alerted everyone to Jax being a team that was on the move be it up or down
She was right since they were one of the few that traded within the 1st round.
It's not a good sign that he doesn't study film and didn't feel like it was a good idea when teams talked to him about it.
Imagine sitting there and telling teams you're not interested in watching film, at least he was honest
And of course he lands on the Panthers, that info meant nothing to them and that's why they keep picking in the top 5-10 every year
I'm simply repeating what Russini talked about on Dan LeBatard, and she's been eerily spot on with some of her info much to my dismay
finfansteve
Footballguy
My brother is a panthers fan and thinks they should draft burden in the 2nd as well. Not a horrible strategy in a way
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
They also seem to be a staff that gives up on WRs extremely quickly though. They used a 1st round pick on a WR last year and an early 2nd on a WR the year before that and here they are in the top 10 fishing again.
If Tet struggles out of the gate, especially given his separation issues, how much patience are they going to have, or are they going to be shopping for a WR again next year for the 4th year in a row?
Dawg Pound 69
Footballguy
He never said that to teams during interviews. It was a video during his freshman year, when some kid tried interviewing him while he was eating.
Strong NFL interest in drafting him should be ample confirmation of this. He went top 10. Dallas would have taken him at 12 if he was there. The Rams tried trading up for him. If he was dumb enough to tank team interviews, he would still be undrafted heading into Day 2.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I disagree, if it was from some Freshman video then Russini would not have broadcast it
She said it as matter of fact as she did Shedeur Sanders going past the 1st round
I hate to be this way because I truly am not a fan of Russini at the Atlantic however she was spot on and she was ALL OVER the talk shows yesterday and put herself out there if things didn't unfold as she said they would. I'm not the guy that typically says I'm siding with the Pro Journalist because so many times I point out how jaded or slanted or biased their BS is on social media, however I want to giver her credit for some things yesterday
-The Panthers taking Tet McMillan doesn't mean she was wrong. I don't trust much the Panthers do so they likely drowned out any negativity on him much like they did when they put on horse blinders and traded up for Bryce Young. Not an organization I allow to control the narrative of how they draft and go about their business. The Panthers can say anything they want, I go by the results on the field and the actions by the owner and FO. I don't see them lapping the field currently.
Good luck to TM and Carolina, I'm not a fan of the owner so yes I have a slight bias but they continue to fuel that bias with their actions and results
Thanks DP69 for the post, appreciate the chance to expand the conversation, I respect your POV and how you feel, all good and I'll try and back check some of that, maybe its just as you describe
Dawg Pound 69
Footballguy
Don't know about Russini report as have not seen it. But there are multiple reports about T-Mac having made that statement when he was a freshman. Here is most recent :
Tetairoa McMillan: I was "young and dumb" when I said I didn't watch game film
In the run-up to the draft, an old clip of Arizona wide receiver Tetairoa McMillan saying he didn't watch game film surfaced.
www.nbcsports.com
