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WR Tre Tucker, LV (1 Viewer)

ghostguy123 said:
JohnnyU said:
ghostguy123 said:
Anything to see here with Davante gone?
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Was there anything to see the last couple of weeks with Adams out? Two decent games out of six isn’t going to cut it.
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Well, is he any good? Upside? I mean, he's 23.
Dynasty value??
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Probably not until they fix the QB problem, so in dynasty if you have large rosters, then yes. I'm not sure about his overall upside. It could go either way, but I'm leaning average.
 
the Raiders would be crazy to go into 2025 with the same QB room. If they don't draft someone they might trade. Sure, it's possible that they add someone (FA/draft) and Tuck is no longer the #1 but the Raiders are delusional if they don't think the lack of QB is the problem.

It's possible that I'm approaching this as someone with not a ton of WR depth so I need/want him to be a hit but just from a football perspective the smart money is on them adding a QB. Tanking for Beck?
 
BLOCKED_PUNT said:
the Raiders would be crazy to go into 2025 with the same QB room. If they don't draft someone they might trade. Sure, it's possible that they add someone (FA/draft) and Tuck is no longer the #1 but the Raiders are delusional if they don't think the lack of QB is the problem.

It's possible that I'm approaching this as someone with not a ton of WR depth so I need/want him to be a hit but just from a football perspective the smart money is on them adding a QB. Tanking for Beck?
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.....or tank for someone better than Beck. They will add to the WR room as well. The cupboards are bare there as well.
 
BLOCKED_PUNT said:
ok? none of that invalidates my belief that Tucker will (probably) be fine in dynasty.
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I don't think it should invalidate him in dynasty. I'm just saying I don't personally think he's an elite guy, but I could be wrong. I sure as hell have been many times. I do believe he has a Christian Kirk ceiling (not comparing player likeness here) if everything falls into place in the future with better QB play. He could just as easily be a roster clogger, like he is now, with such bad QB play. With Adams gone he will probably get an uptick in value, but maybe not. He hasn't shown much with Adams out. My final say on Tucker is that if you have room on your bench for a wait and see, then by all means do that.
 
JohnnyU said:
BLOCKED_PUNT said:
ok? none of that invalidates my belief that Tucker will (probably) be fine in dynasty.
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I don't think it should invalidate him in dynasty. I'm just saying I don't personally think he's an elite guy, but I could be wrong. I sure as hell have been many times. I do believe he has a Christian Kirk ceiling (not comparing player likeness here) if everything falls into place in the future with better QB play. He could just as easily be a roster clogger, like he is now, with such bad QB play. With Adams gone he will probably get an uptick in value, but maybe not. He hasn't shown much with Adams out. My final say on Tucker is that if you have room on your bench for a wait and see, then by all means do that.
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Yeah that’s about where I’m at. I’m not cutting him but if someone offered any 3rd I’m smashing accept

With Adams gone I think he will have the opportunity to show enough flashes (or not) over the next few weeks to at least give a bit more clarity on whether he’s interesting as a potential drafted-over wr2 or more.
 
BLOCKED_PUNT said:
I think he might be the boom or bust deep threat
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So so routes and suspect hands. Raiders drafted 2.5 WRs last weekend to compete with him, all three of whom may have more natural receiving ability than Tre, even tho one of them played QB primarily.

All of the above said, Tucker is going into just his third year as a pro, and did make a jump after year 1. He's still evolving and major new competition may accelerate that process.
 
He may be the Raiders WR2 but, at best he's their third target going into the season and possibly fourth, maybe even fifth when the dust settles.

Things are very different this season in Las Vegas but I've always seen him as a one trick guy.

Jeanty & Thornton, apparently, could easily end up with more targets. And Bech is in the picture and Mayer has been getting rave reviews all off season.

Tucker could emerge but the Raiders have a ton of "could emerge" guys.
 
BespokeJort said:
Is this guy good now; what happened here?
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Yeah he is good, not AS good as the box score suggests but Tre gets open a ton. The problem is he's never had a QB able to get it to him.

When Geno has time our pass game is nice. The problem is our OL is legitamtely the worst at both pass and run blocking.
 
Tre Tucker caught 8-of-9 targets for 145 yards and three touchdowns in the Raiders’ Week 3 loss to the Commanders.

Tucker found the end zone on a 10-yard score in the second quarter, but the third-year receiver was just getting started. In the fourth quarter, with the game well out of reach, Tucker connected with Geno Smith for two more scores, with his longest coming on a 61-yard strike through broken coverage. Sunday marked the first time in Tucker’s career that he surpassed the 100-yard mark, and just the fourth time he eclipsed 60 receiving yards. He’s now seen eight or more targets in each of the last two weeks, but we’ll need to see a few more weeks of consistent production before we consider him a viable fantasy option. He shouldn’t be viewed as anything more than a WR4/WR5 in a generous Week 4 matchup against the Bears.
- Rotoworld
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This game screams fluke, but there could be some Blake Bortles garbagetime action here to run a FAAB scam this week.
 
Targets so far: 3, 8, 9.

He had a couple spike weeks last year where he had 9, 8, 8, 8, but they were random and non-consecutive.

Two weeks of decent targets is not quite a trend. Likely he remains chronically boom/bust, but he could be worth a stash to see what happens. Maybe Geno really likes him (?)
 
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It will be interesting seeing what the Raiders do with Meyers. He wants a new deal, demanded a trade, yet the Raiders said no and he's playing anyways. I love me some Jakobi but if he's asking for $25M+ then I am completely fine with moving him for a pick. Especially if the Raiders continue to struggle (Which they will).

Then Tucket should truly take off. The guys is always open, he just needs opportunities.
 
After a big swing and a miss on Boutee, I think I'm probably just price enforcing a losing bid of 20% in dynasty faab and calling it a day (which probably means he's on his way to Canton).

I bought in on Tucker's 9 target game last season in week 3 and it didn't really go anywhere. It sure seemed like the opportunity was there last year if he was going to become a star deep threat commanding consistent targets. I suppose that a new QB is reason for optimism. My only hope is if everyone else in my league decides he's a capable boom-bust when the gamescript falls to him, but the gawdy stat line was empty garbage time points. He still got loose in week 1 and was working on a strong game before this one got out of hand. If garbage time is his thing, those points count too and it is the Raiders.
 
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sushinsky4tsar said:
After a big swing and a miss on Boutee, I think I'm probably just price enforcing a losing bid of 20% in dynasty faab and calling it a day (which probably means he's on his way to Canton).

I bought in on Tucker's 9 target game last season in week 3 and it didn't really go anywhere. It sure seemed like the opportunity was there last year if he was going to become a star deep threat commanding consistent targets. I suppose that a new QB is reason for optimism. My only hope is if everyone else in my league decides he's a capable boom-bust when the gamescript falls to him, but the gawdy stat line was empty garbage time points. He still got loose in week 1 and was working on a strong game before this one got out of hand. If garbage time is his thing, those points count too and it is the Raiders.
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Tucker’s target share from last season is increasingly irrelevant, IMO. Ditto with how Bowers and Meyers were used.

Kelly is now the OC, Geno is his QB, and Tucker doesn’t seem like a distant third behind Bowers/ Meyers in the pecking order. In fact, it looks like he’s a featured part of the offense. So I’m buying.
 
41-24 blowout, Tucker has always had the abilities to have a breakout performance and has shown flashes
But in a normal 20-17 game the Raiders are going to be more likely to play most weeks, he's gonna be useless

When teams are down by 3-4-5 Touchdowns, heroes suddenly emerge at Wide Receiver and then we never see them again for the next 4-6 weeks
 
Ministry of Pain said:
41-24 blowout, Tucker has always had the abilities to have a breakout performance and has shown flashes
But in a normal 20-17 game the Raiders are going to be more likely to play most weeks, he's gonna be useless

When teams are down by 3-4-5 Touchdowns, heroes suddenly emerge at Wide Receiver and then we never see them again for the next 4-6 weeks
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I like this narrative, and, as a Bowers and Meyers owner, I hope you’re correct.

That said, I wouldn’t write off Tucker as a garbage time fluke just yet. He’s playing ~90% of snaps and the Raiders aren’t just using him to stretch the field. They’ve been trying to get him in space on short throws too.

I mean, at a minimum, he’s what we thought Thornton was gonna be and many of us were rostering him. Even if he is just a vertical threat, that probably makes him a WR4 with upside.
 
Wondering if this is real or whack a mole WR.

He's 24 and not exactly an unknown talent.

That said, I may be looking to nab him off waivers with a favorable matchup against the banged up CHI secondary.
 
taylormeetstheismann said:
Nice game for Tucker but I’m not buying in redraft.
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Some poor coverage on the TDs, especially the first and last. Gino supported 2 good WRs for many years in SEA, but there are too many good receiving options in the TEs, Jeanty, Meyers, and eventually Bech and Thornton may get more time.

He's only 5'8" maybe an inch taller, but made Feldman's list.

>>1. Tucker, a team captain in his final season with the Bearcats, truly excelled on special teams over his collegiate career. He posted a career 1,670 kickoff return yards and two kickoff return touchdowns – one of which was for 99 yards. He finished fifth all-time in kickoff return average (24.93) and third in kickoff return yards in the Cincinnati record books.

>> 2. The speedster tied for the fifth fastest 40-yard dash among receivers at the 2023 Scouting Combine at 4.4 seconds, but clocked a 4.37 at Cincinnati's Pro Day.

He caught the eye of The Athletic's Bruce Feldman, who ranked Turner at No. 67 on the 2022 College Football Freaks List for his ability to squat 600 pounds as well as his impressive 16 reps of 225 pounds on bench press.

3. Tucker has 12 siblings – eight brothers and four sisters.
"My family played a huge part in my success at Cincinnati. I really appreciate their support," Tucker told The Draft Network. "There was a lot of fighting and arguments growing up (laughs). That's family."<<

 
Ministry of Pain said:
41-24 blowout, Tucker has always had the abilities to have a breakout performance and has shown flashes
But in a normal 20-17 game the Raiders are going to be more likely to play most weeks, he's gonna be useless

When teams are down by 3-4-5 Touchdowns, heroes suddenly emerge at Wide Receiver and then we never see them again for the next 4-6 weeks
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The Raiders will be behind by multiple touchdowns most games until they fix that o line.
 
Dood is a 3rd year WR who just broke out with a 40 pt day. I've squatted on a lot less to see if real. Best part is between people doubting not just Tucker, but the Raiders O, you don't have to break your FAAB to grab.
 
LawFitz said:
Dood is a 3rd year WR who just broke out with a 40 pt day. I've squatted on a lot less to see if real. Best part is between people doubting not just Tucker, but the Raiders O, you don't have to break your FAAB to grab.
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Lot of this is obviously rose-tinted glasses; but he's also been an annual camp hype guy the past two years (and both coaching regimes). He wasn't ever going to get a lot of targets with Adams on the team. And last year Minshew obviously was riding the Bowers train to great success. I never watched a ton of Raiders games so I don't know exactly why he only had 47 receptions, but the 80 targets part is pretty solid despite Bowers breakout and some less than ideal QB situations.

I wouldn't be wanting to start him as my WR2, but I think if he can hang around 7-8 targets a game he'd be serviceable WR3/flex.
 
On board the train with an overpay bid to secure him but I need more WR points from somewhere and our benches are deep and the wire very thin.
 
Seems like everybody EXCEPT Thornton is catching passes. Guess Thornton really is a deep decoy as was mentioned in the pre-season. 5 receptions in 3 games. Meyers, Tucker, and Bowers all have 20+ targets...Thornton only 12.
 
Someone dropped $20 FAAB, next highest bid was $6.

There are buyers and skeptics abound, I hope for his sake this is a third year breakout, but I think he’s unlikely to perform at a WR2 level rest of season based on my gut and how I think this offense adjusts now that they’re realizing they’re not going to compete at all.
 
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