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WR Xavier Worthy, KC (1 Viewer)

When Hollywood Brown returns... where does that put Worthy for targets? Boom/Bust weeks? Efficiency continues?
Puts Brown on the Bench
I started Worthy in one league last night and I'm pretty stoked for it. I started him as Hollywood was out. What we saw last night is the upside of Worthy, scoring from anywhere, multiple ways.

Once Hollywood is back it will become a lot tougher to start Worthy. Worthy will be sharing snaps and could be a boom bust player. Rice and Kelce (and even Gray) had more targets this game than Worthy.

I don't doubt Worthy's talent and glad I own him but Andy Reid will do Andy Reid things and there will be games where Worthy doesn't score and only gets 3 targets and it will hurt.

Going forward KC found a great WRs that a couple times a game could sneak past the defenses for the big play but the reads in the offense seem to go to Rice and Kelce. Mahomes will find Worthy when he busts coverage like last night but I will be honest I am shaky starting him when Hollywood is back.

Worthy is a perfect fit for this offense (WTF BUF???) but be cautious for fantasy until we get to see what happens once Hollywood is back.
 
Where does all of this Hollywood love come from. He's average at best when he plays, but he never plays bc he gets hurt as much as anybody. He's fast, but not XW fast.
I agree with you on Brown. I'm not on team Worthy or team Brown really. I will say, I bet most of the Brown love, at this stage, comes from him understanding the position better then the very talented rookie. Just feels like Worthy's first year he will be that guy that has a couple of designed special plays a game while Brown, if healthy will be a bigger target guy and part of the normal offense. Imo
 
Where does all of this Hollywood love come from? He's average at best when he plays, but he never plays bc he gets hurt as much as anybody. He's fast, but not XW fast.
No extra love here, just that he will be playing when he's healthy.

I guess if he is injured all year then no worries but Reid will play him. If you are a Worth owner lets hope Worthy keeps crushing it and doesn't look back.
 
I'm willing to give him a go in two leagues.
Nice. Takes a bit of cahones to make that call in a first game situation against a tough D. I'm still on the fence, but I could easily see him ripping off a long TD:ponder:
Week one is always a crapshoot , its more likely XW gets open and hits a long one than it is that the D shuts him down, He wont get the best CB Balt has , that honor is for Rice
Turns out they decided to not put any DB on him at all
 
Where does all of this Hollywood love come from? He's average at best when he plays, but he never plays bc he gets hurt as much as anybody. He's fast, but not XW fast.
He's not great, but he's probably better than about 29 or so teams #4 option in the pass game.
 
A healthy Hollywood Brown is a more complete WR than Xavier Worthy might ever be, IMHO.

While Worthy's speed is elite, Hollywood is an elite separator with a bigger route tree, and can operate in a larger area of the football field.
At this point in his career, Worthy is a straight-9 field stretcher/gadget guy.

Very valuable quick-strike weapon for the Chiefs, but God forbid he takes a clean shot from a defender coming full speed in the opposite direction. He'd leave the field on a stretcher.

I have him in a WR3/flex rotation in high-stakes, non-ppr League, and started him last night over JS-N looking for a circumstance-based big play.

Lucked out, but last night's outcome doesn't move him up in the pecking order. I'll continue to pick and choose my spots to deploy him. Devin Singletary and JS-N are currently his primary competition for 1 spot. In this League, that could be stiff competition.

The Chiefs run plenty of 3wr sets, and their wr room/rotation has narrowed from '23, but if you factor in Mahomies homie Justin Watson, a healthy Brown will probably be in the field in 2wr sets with Rice with Watson and Worthy rotating in 3wr sets.

Now is a great time to acquire Brown on the cheap, IMHO.
 
When Hollywood Brown returns... where does that put Worthy for targets? Boom/Bust weeks? Efficiency continues?
Puts Brown on the Bench
I started Worthy in one league last night and I'm pretty stoked for it. I started him as Hollywood was out. What we saw last night is the upside of Worthy, scoring from anywhere, multiple ways.

Once Hollywood is back it will become a lot tougher to start Worthy. Worthy will be sharing snaps and could be a boom bust player. Rice and Kelce (and even Gray) had more targets this game than Worthy.

I don't doubt Worthy's talent and glad I own him but Andy Reid will do Andy Reid things and there will be games where Worthy doesn't score and only gets 3 targets and it will hurt.

Going forward KC found a great WRs that a couple times a game could sneak past the defenses for the big play but the reads in the offense seem to go to Rice and Kelce. Mahomes will find Worthy when he busts coverage like last night but I will be honest I am shaky starting him when Hollywood is back.

Worthy is a perfect fit for this offense (WTF BUF???) but be cautious for fantasy until we get to see what happens once Hollywood is back.
 
Bengals CB Cam Taylor-Britt does not think much of Chiefs Xavier Worthy

“Speed … He can run straight & Jet Sweeps, he can’t do much else. You put your hands on him, HE’s ONLY A HUNDRED SOMETHING POUNDS ”

:popcorn:
Hah this is going to be good. Now, Worthy could have a quiet night if more targets go to Kelce and Rice but that doesn't mean Worthy is no good. Long term I think Worthy is going to smoke more people than people getting their hands on him/stopping him.

Also - why does Cam feel he needs to run his mouth and add fuel to the fire. Hope Mahomes see that lol.
 
I think I'll bench him this week.
I'm starting Worthy I think in my second flex spot. At any time he could house a catch and they are starting to give him some carries. With it being a home game and KC rolling early I don't think I can bench him. Low targets are a bit concerning no doubt but the big play ability is enough bait to keep me fishing. I can't quit him.
 
I think I'll bench him this week.
I'm starting Worthy I think in my second flex spot. At any time he could house a catch and they are starting to give him some carries. With it being a home game and KC rolling early I don't think I can bench him. Low targets are a bit concerning no doubt but the big play ability is enough bait to keep me fishing. I can't quit him.
Got talked out of starting him for week 1. Feels like whatever I do this week will be wrong, but I'm not going to accept having him on my bench for another long score. Starting him over K. Allen & Shakir. I don't know, Jim.
 
I think I'll bench him this week.
I'm starting Worthy I think in my second flex spot. At any time he could house a catch and they are starting to give him some carries. With it being a home game and KC rolling early I don't think I can bench him. Low targets are a bit concerning no doubt but the big play ability is enough bait to keep me fishing. I can't quit him.
Got talked out of starting him for week 1. Feels like whatever I do this week will be wrong, but I'm not going to accept having him on my bench for another long score. Starting him over K. Allen & Shakir. I don't know, Jim.
It worked well for us with you sitting him so that would be my request... thanks in advance. HA!
 
I think I'll bench him this week.
I'm starting Worthy I think in my second flex spot. At any time he could house a catch and they are starting to give him some carries. With it being a home game and KC rolling early I don't think I can bench him. Low targets are a bit concerning no doubt but the big play ability is enough bait to keep me fishing. I can't quit him.
Got talked out of starting him for week 1. Feels like whatever I do this week will be wrong, but I'm not going to accept having him on my bench for another long score. Starting him over K. Allen & Shakir. I don't know, Jim.
It worked well for us with you sitting him so that would be my request... thanks in advance. HA!
Sorry, if I can't have any fun playing fantasy football, then nobody else gets to either. You've all been warned. 1 reception for 12 yards. 1 rush for 4 yards incoming.
 
I think I'll bench him this week.
I'm starting Worthy I think in my second flex spot. At any time he could house a catch and they are starting to give him some carries. With it being a home game and KC rolling early I don't think I can bench him. Low targets are a bit concerning no doubt but the big play ability is enough bait to keep me fishing. I can't quit him.
Got talked out of starting him for week 1. Feels like whatever I do this week will be wrong, but I'm not going to accept having him on my bench for another long score. Starting him over K. Allen & Shakir. I don't know, Jim.
It worked well for us with you sitting him so that would be my request... thanks in advance. HA!
Sorry, if I can't have any fun playing fantasy football, then nobody else gets to either. You've all been warned. 1 reception for 12 yards. 1 rush for 4 yards incoming.

What’s the o/u on penalties, fumbles, drops and boneheaded plays?
 
I think I'll bench him this week.
I'm starting Worthy I think in my second flex spot. At any time he could house a catch and they are starting to give him some carries. With it being a home game and KC rolling early I don't think I can bench him. Low targets are a bit concerning no doubt but the big play ability is enough bait to keep me fishing. I can't quit him.
Got talked out of starting him for week 1. Feels like whatever I do this week will be wrong, but I'm not going to accept having him on my bench for another long score. Starting him over K. Allen & Shakir. I don't know, Jim.
It worked well for us with you sitting him so that would be my request... thanks in advance. HA!
Sorry, if I can't have any fun playing fantasy football, then nobody else gets to either. You've all been warned. 1 reception for 12 yards. 1 rush for 4 yards incoming.

What’s the o/u on penalties, fumbles, drops and boneheaded plays?
Fanduel is running a special where it's 0.5 on your first bet.
 
Bengals CB Cam Taylor-Britt does not think much of Chiefs Xavier Worthy

“Speed … He can run straight & Jet Sweeps, he can’t do much else. You put your hands on him, HE’s ONLY A HUNDRED SOMETHING POUNDS ”

:popcorn:
This tactic always works well. Great job, Cam ...

🤣

pour one out for laughing emoji like

:banned:
We can try using 😢 to mean laughing, since it's rather uncommon to use. If it catches on, it would be mostly understood. Then when somebody dies and there are a bunch of 😢's people can get offended because they think people are laughing.
 

Quote from Bengals CB.

You gotta start Worthy now.
Over Tank Dell? I feel like taunting him would make Reid specifically put Worthy in the right places to show him up.
Me too, but taking a rookie in his second game vs Dell who has proven more is a risk. They can both make the game with one play. I looked, they both played 63% of snaps last week, that's funny.

That's a pick em.
 
Bengals CB Cam Taylor-Britt does not think much of Chiefs Xavier Worthy

“Speed … He can run straight & Jet Sweeps, he can’t do much else. You put your hands on him, HE’s ONLY A HUNDRED SOMETHING POUNDS ”

:popcorn:
This tactic always works well. Great job, Cam ...

🤣

pour one out for laughing emoji like

:banned:
We can try using 😢 to mean laughing, since it's rather uncommon to use. If it catches on, it would be mostly understood. Then when somebody dies and there are a bunch of 😢's people can get offended because they think people are laughing.

Were the bengals dropped on their head as a kid?
 
Bengals CB Cam Taylor-Britt does not think much of Chiefs Xavier Worthy

“Speed … He can run straight & Jet Sweeps, he can’t do much else. You put your hands on him, HE’s ONLY A HUNDRED SOMETHING POUNDS ”

:popcorn:
This tactic always works well. Great job, Cam ...

🤣

pour one out for laughing emoji like

:banned:
We can try using 😢 to mean laughing, since it's rather uncommon to use. If it catches on, it would be mostly understood. Then when somebody dies and there are a bunch of 😢's people can get offended because they think people are laughing.

Were the bengals dropped on their head as a kid?
No, just Mike Brown for drafting Akili Smith.
 
Bengals CB Cam Taylor-Britt does not think much of Chiefs Xavier Worthy

“Speed … He can run straight & Jet Sweeps, he can’t do much else. You put your hands on him, HE’s ONLY A HUNDRED SOMETHING POUNDS ”

:popcorn:
This tactic always works well. Great job, Cam ...

🤣

pour one out for laughing emoji like

:banned:
We can try using 😢 to mean laughing, since it's rather uncommon to use. If it catches on, it would be mostly understood. Then when somebody dies and there are a bunch of 😢's people can get offended because they think people are laughing.

Were the bengals dropped on their head as a kid?
No, just Mike Brown for drafting Akili Smith.

that's future Hall of Famer Mike Brown to you guy
 
Hollywood Brown is going to miss the entire season. What would Worthy’s ADP have been if we knew this before the season? I think at least a couple of rounds higher.
 
No one talking about this guy? If you own him, how are you feeling? If you don't, are you trying to buy low?
 
I think the biggest bad moment he has had in his short career was stopping on that crossing route. The look Mahomes gave was like, never again. I don't see much startable value in redraft leagues.
 
No one talking about this guy? If you own him, how are you feeling? If you don't, are you trying to buy low?
Unsure how to feel. I also started Shaheed in one league and he got me a zero. I felt good about Shaheed and he had a bagel. So with Worthy I expected a bit more production considering he also got 3 carries. Better times ahead or slow going as it often is with rookies.

This could be a situation where Andy is slow to get his rookie receivers up to speed. Rice is obviously the #1 but even Kelce has started slow.

Worthy is a bigtime play maker but not sure I can start him week to wee at this point. Bestball he is fantastic but weekly he is boom bust. really deep leagues with multiple flex spots you are probably starting him but smaller leagues he isn't a must start right now. Worthy's snap % was only 50 last game.

Last year Rice sat around 50% until week 8 when he started to get 65%+ and then week 14 he started to hit 75%+.

Long term I think Worthy is a great fit for this offense but could be slow going for a while.
 
No one talking about this guy? If you own him, how are you feeling? If you don't, are you trying to buy low?

He’s a drop candidate for me in redraft. Short benches.

3-4-4 targets doesn’t inspire confidence.
Don't forget the 3 rush attempts. All it takes is for him to break one.

I agree though in short benches/shallow leagues he is a tough hold in redraft. Gotta do what you need to do but keep your finger on the trigger and be ready if later in the season he's getting more snaps and touches.
 
No one talking about this guy? If you own him, how are you feeling? If you don't, are you trying to buy low?
Unsure how to feel. I also started Shaheed in one league and he got me a zero. I felt good about Shaheed and he had a bagel. So with Worthy I expected a bit more production considering he also got 3 carries. Better times ahead or slow going as it often is with rookies.

This could be a situation where Andy is slow to get his rookie receivers up to speed. Rice is obviously the #1 but even Kelce has started slow.

Worthy is a bigtime play maker but not sure I can start him week to wee at this point. Bestball he is fantastic but weekly he is boom bust. really deep leagues with multiple flex spots you are probably starting him but smaller leagues he isn't a must start right now. Worthy's snap % was only 50 last game.

Last year Rice sat around 50% until week 8 when he started to get 65%+ and then week 14 he started to hit 75%+.

Long term I think Worthy is a great fit for this offense but could be slow going for a while.
I actually just traded Shaheed for Worthy. Agreed I was feeling good on Shaheed but seeing that goose egg spooked me. I think Worthy and Shaheed are both boom-bust but I think we've seen Shaheed's best games and haven't seen Worthy's yet.

With the Chiefs bye week coming up, I'm hoping Worthy sees an increased route-tree and increased opportunities.

The Chiefs straight up don't look good right now. I think they know that. They know they're lucky to be 3-0 and they've got to find a way to get the rookie involved if they want to three-peat.
 
I think Worthy and Shaheed are both boom-bust but I think we've seen Shaheed's best games and haven't seen Worthy's yet.
I would have more confidence in Shaheed for this year. He has a role and is being utilized so while he is boom/bust he has a more consistent role. Worthy has manufactured plays and they haven't even tried to get him deep (that I have seen). Everything is screens, rushes, and short routes that he must pop to be useful. Shaheed seems to be used in more traditional WR roles in addition to the boom plays downfield.
 
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I think Worthy and Shaheed are both boom-bust but I think we've seen Shaheed's best games and haven't seen Worthy's yet.
I would have more confidence in Shaheed for this year. He has a role and is being utilized so while he is boom/bust he has a more consistent role. Worthy has manufactured plays and they haven't even tried to get him deep (that I have seen). Everything is screens, rushes, and short routes that he must pop to be useful. Shaheed seems to be used in more traditional WR roles in addition to the boom plays downfield.
Right now, I like Shaheed more in their current roles. But what I'm betting on is Worthy's role increasing as the season goes on, especially after their coming bye week. In my experience, Reid tends to bring rookies along slowly until their bye.
 
I think Worthy and Shaheed are both boom-bust but I think we've seen Shaheed's best games and haven't seen Worthy's yet.
I would have more confidence in Shaheed for this year. He has a role and is being utilized so while he is boom/bust he has a more consistent role. Worthy has manufactured plays and they haven't even tried to get him deep (that I have seen). Everything is screens, rushes, and short routes that he must pop to be useful. Shaheed seems to be used in more traditional WR roles in addition to the boom plays downfield.
Right now, I like Shaheed more in their current roles. But what I'm betting on is Worthy's role increasing as the season goes on, especially after their coming bye week. In my experience, Reid tends to bring rookies along slowly until their bye.
OK. I just don't see it happening since they haven't even tried anything down the field. He needs that to open up any of the under route/screen type plays. Until that happens (and I am not sure it does) he won't have much value. But I understand your thought process. I just don't agree with it from what I have seen.
 
I think Worthy and Shaheed are both boom-bust but I think we've seen Shaheed's best games and haven't seen Worthy's yet.
I would have more confidence in Shaheed for this year. He has a role and is being utilized so while he is boom/bust he has a more consistent role. Worthy has manufactured plays and they haven't even tried to get him deep (that I have seen). Everything is screens, rushes, and short routes that he must pop to be useful. Shaheed seems to be used in more traditional WR roles in addition to the boom plays downfield.
Right now, I like Shaheed more in their current roles. But what I'm betting on is Worthy's role increasing as the season goes on, especially after their coming bye week. In my experience, Reid tends to bring rookies along slowly until their bye.
OK. I just don't see it happening since they haven't even tried anything down the field. He needs that to open up any of the under route/screen type plays. Until that happens (and I am not sure it does) he won't have much value. But I understand your thought process. I just don't agree with it from what I have seen.
We don't see it yet. My point is, I think we're seeing Shaheed's expanded role already. And that's great that it's more than last year but it still indicates boom/bust at best. For Worthy, he's already boom/bust, but he's not in an expanded role yet. And I think we should expect his role to be expanded with the nature of his role, his status, and with the loss of Hollywood Brown for the entire fantasy season.

There is greater potential in Worthy for this year than there is for Shaheed, imo.

It may not pay off or turn out that way, but the potential is there and I don't think that potential is there for Shaheed. I think we're seeing what he will be. But we're not seeing what Worthy will be just yet.
 
Worthy’s snap count also dropped to 50% this last game. He is a rookie in a complicated system so it may take some time for him to become comfortable and earn the trust of the staff.
WIDE RECEIVERWK 1WK 2WK 3TOTAL
Rashee Rice42
78%
54
83%
55
74%
151
Xavier Worthy34
63%
44
68%
37
50%
115
Justin Watson28
52%
29
45%
29
39%
86
JuJu Smith-Schuster12
22%
13
20%
41
55%
66
Skyy Moore10
19%
5
8%
15
20%
30
Mecole Hardman0
0%
1
2%
3
4%
4
Gotta get slow-***, one-knee Juju out there for 55% of the snaps.
 
Worthy’s snap count also dropped to 50% this last game. He is a rookie in a complicated system so it may take some time for him to become comfortable and earn the trust of the staff.
WIDE RECEIVERWK 1WK 2WK 3TOTAL
Rashee Rice42
78%
54
83%
55
74%
151
Xavier Worthy34
63%
44
68%
37
50%
115
Justin Watson28
52%
29
45%
29
39%
86
JuJu Smith-Schuster12
22%
13
20%
41
55%
66
Skyy Moore10
19%
5
8%
15
20%
30
Mecole Hardman0
0%
1
2%
3
4%
4
Gotta get slow-***, one-knee Juju out there for 55% of the snaps.
Further evidence that Worthy is not where he needs to be quite yet.
 
Worthy’s snap count also dropped to 50% this last game. He is a rookie in a complicated system so it may take some time for him to become comfortable and earn the trust of the staff.
WIDE RECEIVERWK 1WK 2WK 3TOTAL
Rashee Rice42
78%
54
83%
55
74%
151
Xavier Worthy34
63%
44
68%
37
50%
115
Justin Watson28
52%
29
45%
29
39%
86
JuJu Smith-Schuster12
22%
13
20%
41
55%
66
Skyy Moore10
19%
5
8%
15
20%
30
Mecole Hardman0
0%
1
2%
3
4%
4
Gotta get slow-***, one-knee Juju out there for 55% of the snaps.
Further evidence that Worthy is not where he needs to be quite yet.
It's 3 weeks in. Of course he's not.
 

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