Yale student screams in anger at professor over halloween costumes (1 Viewer)

[MaxThreshold]

We are dealing with a lot of people who are overreacting. She is looking at it like this:

School: Please be respectful of your fellow students when dressing up for Halloween.

Master of hall: Don't worry about being respectful. If someone doesn't like it they can ignore it.

Her thought process is likely that this guy is in charge of a diverse living place and his job is partly to make people feel comfortable and at home. She feels his response that people shouldn't worry about being respectful of others and those minorities that might be offended should just ignore it is not creating a welcoming environment for many of the people he is responsible too.

I can understand that, but where do we stop with the obligation to make sure no one gets offended?

 

[Ignoramus]

We need to get college back to the priorities of the good old days, namely binge drinking and casual sex. Sure, we need to make some adjustments to eliminate the rapeyness, but college these days is starting to sound like a real buzzkill. Do these students have any fun at all?

Students copy/mimic what they see. Kids can't understand "right vs. wrong" or whatever without being shown/taught it. Families tend not to eat dinner together instead putting the tv on and watching that, or the Internet now. Kids copy what they see. Adults are more to blame than the kids.

It's one girl screaming. People trying to make her representative of a whole generation are just officially at grandpa status.

You denying that kids are ####### these days?

Said every generation ever.I know, I know... it's worse now. (Also said every generation ever.)

 

[Ilov80s]

My issue is:

- these kids at one of the most elite, spoiled and pompous places in the world do no represent an entire generation.

- just because she is acting like a toddler, it does not make her point invalid

- the "America is too sensitive" crowd is just as oversensitive. They are overreacting to an email that just asked people to be respectful of each other. What is so wrong with that?

 

[Cliff Clavin]

It would be awesome if people could keep quoting the email

 

[Ilov80s]

We are dealing with a lot of people who are overreacting. She is looking at it like this:

School: Please be respectful of your fellow students when dressing up for Halloween.

Master of hall: Don't worry about being respectful. If someone doesn't like it they can ignore it.

Her thought process is likely that this guy is in charge of a diverse living place and his job is partly to make people feel comfortable and at home. She feels his response that people shouldn't worry about being respectful of others and those minorities that might be offended should just ignore it is not creating a welcoming environment for many of the people he is responsible too.

I can understand that, but where do we stop with the obligation to make sure no one gets offended?

There is no obligation. What is wrong with a branch of the university asking students to be respectful and thoughtful of fellow students?

 

[MaxThreshold]

There is no obligation. What is wrong with a branch of the university asking students to be respectful and thoughtful of fellow students?

Absolutely nothing wrong with that. But apparently, that's not enough.

 

[Ilov80s]

There is no obligation. What is wrong with a branch of the university asking students to be respectful and thoughtful of fellow students?

Absolutely nothing wrong with that. But apparently, that's not enough.

Why do you say that?

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

We are dealing with a lot of people who are overreacting. She is looking at it like this:

School: Please be respectful of your fellow students when dressing up for Halloween.

Master of hall: Don't worry about being respectful. If someone doesn't like it they can ignore it.

Her thought process is likely that this guy is in charge of a diverse living place and his job is partly to make people feel comfortable and at home. She feels his response that people shouldn't worry about being respectful of others and those minorities that might be offended should just ignore it is not creating a welcoming environment for many of the people he is responsible too.

I can understand that, but where do we stop with the obligation to make sure no one gets offended?

There is no obligation. What is wrong with a branch of the university asking students to be respectful and thoughtful of fellow students?

There's nothing wrong with it. There's also nothing wrong with saying "lighten up, maybe we're taking this whole sensitivity thing a bit too far".

What's wrong is a bunch of undergrads who think the world revolves around them calling for people's jobs because they dared to offer a different POV.

 

[cstu]

My issue is:

- these kids at one of the most elite, spoiled and pompous places in the world do no represent an entire generation.

- just because she is acting like a toddler, it does not make her point invalid

- the "America is too sensitive" crowd is just as oversensitive. They are overreacting to an email that just asked people to be respectful of each other. What is so wrong with that?

Yep, would be more shocking if someone from Yale didn't act like an ###hole.

 

[32 Counter Pass]

A good portion of these kids have lead shelter lives that now extend through their colleges years at elite colleges. They have no clue of the real world. Many comedians have stopped performing at colleges because of the general hypersensitivity to anything: https://www.thewrap.com/comedians-avoiding-campus-when-did-universities-lose-their-sense-of-humor/

When did the definition of school become " place of sheltering?" I thought it was a place to learn and a forum to discuss ideas. This kind of censorship discourages learning. WTF?

 

[MaxThreshold]

There is no obligation. What is wrong with a branch of the university asking students to be respectful and thoughtful of fellow students?

Absolutely nothing wrong with that. But apparently, that's not enough.

Why do you say that?

Because now we have to fire people and supporting spouses to correct the micro-injustice.

 

[Guest]

My issue is:

- these kids at one of the most elite, spoiled and pompous places in the world do no represent an entire generation.

- just because she is acting like a toddler, it does not make her point invalid

- the "America is too sensitive" crowd is just as

oversensitive. They are overreacting to an email that just asked people to be respectful of each other. What is so wrong with that?

I'm personally not reacting to the email. I'm reacting to the lynch mob hunting for anyone with a dissenting opinion. Reminds me of the excellent point that Bill Maher made -- that liberals have become so tolerant that they tolerate intolerance.

 

[Ilov80s]

We are dealing with a lot of people who are overreacting. She is looking at it like this:

School: Please be respectful of your fellow students when dressing up for Halloween.

Master of hall: Don't worry about being respectful. If someone doesn't like it they can ignore it.

Her thought process is likely that this guy is in charge of a diverse living place and his job is partly to make people feel comfortable and at home. She feels his response that people shouldn't worry about being respectful of others and those minorities that might be offended should just ignore it is not creating a welcoming environment for many of the people he is responsible too.

I can understand that, but where do we stop with the obligation to make sure no one gets offended?

There is no obligation. What is wrong with a branch of the university asking students to be respectful and thoughtful of fellow students?

There's nothing wrong with it. There's also nothing wrong with saying "lighten up, maybe we're taking this whole sensitivity thing a bit too far".

What's wrong is a bunch of undergrads who think the world revolves around them calling for people's jobs because they dared to offer a different POV.

Yes, her behavior is embarrassing.

 

[Tom Skerritt]

We are dealing with a lot of people who are overreacting. She is looking at it like this:

School: Please be respectful of your fellow students when dressing up for Halloween.

Master of hall: Don't worry about being respectful. If someone doesn't like it they can ignore it.

Her thought process is likely that this guy is in charge of a diverse living place and his job is partly to make people feel comfortable and at home. She feels his response that people shouldn't worry about being respectful of others and those minorities that might be offended should just ignore it is not creating a welcoming environment for many of the people he is responsible too.

Yes to the bolded, but she is also saying that it is okay for youth to be obnoxious, inappropriate, provocative and offensive. Because that is what young dumb people do. We all just need to get over ourselves.

As someone else pointed out, she should have simply said "Lighten up Francis!"

 

[Ilov80s]

There is no obligation. What is wrong with a branch of the university asking students to be respectful and thoughtful of fellow students?

Absolutely nothing wrong with that. But apparently, that's not enough.

Why do you say that?

Because now we have to fire people and supporting spouses to correct the micro-injustice.

That has do to with her perceived dismissal of the request of being respectful to fellow students and that as a master, he is taking sides against minorities.

 

[Ilov80s]

Also lol that the guy's title is master. I'm white and I would feel really uncomfortable calling someone master. So weird.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

There is no obligation. What is wrong with a branch of the university asking students to be respectful and thoughtful of fellow students?

Absolutely nothing wrong with that. But apparently, that's not enough.

Why do you say that?

Because now we have to fire people and supporting spouses to correct the micro-injustice.

That has do to with her perceived dismissal of the request of being respectful to fellow students and that as a master, he is taking sides against minorities.

Right, because people like this nutty broad see everything as a slight.

 

[Thunderlips]

A good portion of these kids have lead shelter lives that now extend through their colleges years at elite colleges. They have no clue of the real world. Many comedians have stopped performing at colleges because of the general hypersensitivity to anything: https://www.thewrap.com/comedians-avoiding-campus-when-did-universities-lose-their-sense-of-humor/

When did the definition of school become " place of sheltering?" I thought it was a place to learn and a forum to discuss ideas. This kind of censorship discourages learning. WTF?

Because parents spending the money want it to be that..... and the children, so used to the benefits of the fruits of their parents labor...have no reason to rebel against their parents. While costs of college have always been fairly high....they've so out of hand that the families footing the bill don't want to not get their moneys worth.

 

[bigbottom]

My issue is:

- the "America is too sensitive" crowd is just as oversensitive. They are overreacting to an email that just asked people to be respectful of each other. What is so wrong with that?

Who is overreacting to an email asking people to be respectful of each other? How is the quoted email from the female professor in any way an "overreaction" (other than its verbosity, I guess)?

 

[The_Man]

My issue is:

- these kids at one of the most elite, spoiled and pompous places in the world do no represent an entire generation.

- just because she is acting like a toddler, it does not make her point invalid

- the "America is too sensitive" crowd is just as oversensitive. They are overreacting to an email that just asked people to be respectful of each other. What is so wrong with that?

Yep, would be more shocking if someone from Yale didn't act like an ###hole.

What's with the knee jerk anti-intellectualism regarding Yale? The 4 or 5 people I know who went there for undergrad or grad school are among the most accomplished and generous of my acquaintances. Isn't one of the themes of this thread that we shouldn't jump to conclusions about people we don't know and try to avoid sweeping generalizations that assume the worst about others?

 

[Tom Skerritt]

My issue is:

- the "America is too sensitive" crowd is just as oversensitive. They are overreacting to an email that just asked people to be respectful of each other. What is so wrong with that?

Who is overreacting to an email asking people to be respectful of each other? How is the quoted email from the female professor in any way an "overreaction" (other than its verbosity, I guess)?

The students are overreacting, and clearly this one female student is way overreacting. The female professor was responding to the original email basically giving credit to the students and their ability to make their own decisions as to what's acceptable and what is not. Some will make good decisions, and some will not.

The students seem to not understand the intent of either emails. And they are coming across very poorly.

 

[The_Man]

So let's get this straight. This woman is screaming at a man because of something his wife wrote? Insinuating that he should have control over his woman and that the husband is ultimately responsible for his wife's words and actions is one of the most sexist attitudes I can imagine

 

[Politician Spock]

How is this person going to navigate ordinary life when she's not capable of handing a disagreement over something trivial without completely flipping out?

Seriously. I just read up on this. So the university dean sends out an email telling students not to wear culturally insensitive Halloween costumes. A female professor and her husband who is the head of a residence hall respond with a suggestion that costume choices be a personal decision and not subject to university regulation, and that students instead discuss their reactions to any particular costume. In response, STUDENTS LOSE THEIR FREAKING ####, are demanding the faculty members' resignations and are stating that they no longer feel safe living in the residence.

:slapsforehead:

The girl's response is evidence of why the bolded will never become a reality in society. There are just too many people that suck for it to ever come to fruition.

 

[bigbottom]

My issue is:

- the "America is too sensitive" crowd is just as oversensitive. They are overreacting to an email that just asked people to be respectful of each other. What is so wrong with that?

Who is overreacting to an email asking people to be respectful of each other? How is the quoted email from the female professor in any way an "overreaction" (other than its verbosity, I guess)?

The students are overreacting, and clearly this one female student is way overreacting. The female professor was responding to the original email basically giving credit to the students and their ability to make their own decisions as to what's acceptable and what is not. Some will make good decisions, and some will not.The students seem to not understand the intent of either emails. And they are coming across very poorly.

I get that. I was asking who was overreacting to the original email asking students to be respectful. The only reaction I'm aware of is the one from the professor and her husband and those reactions don't appear to be "just as oversensitive" as the reactions from the students.

 

[Willie Neslon]

This is a byproduct of social media and coddling. Young people get fired up over the smallest, most pointless things and fail to see the big picture. Her behavior is far worse than anything in that email. This is why Seinfeld ranted about not playing colleges anymore.

 

[Tom Skerritt]

My issue is:

- the "America is too sensitive" crowd is just as oversensitive. They are overreacting to an email that just asked people to be respectful of each other. What is so wrong with that?

Who is overreacting to an email asking people to be respectful of each other? How is the quoted email from the female professor in any way an "overreaction" (other than its verbosity, I guess)?

The students are overreacting, and clearly this one female student is way overreacting. The female professor was responding to the original email basically giving credit to the students and their ability to make their own decisions as to what's acceptable and what is not. Some will make good decisions, and some will not.The students seem to not understand the intent of either emails. And they are coming across very poorly.

I get that. I was asking who was overreacting to the original email asking students to be respectful. The only reaction I'm aware of is the one from the professor and her husband and those reactions don't appear to be "just as oversensitive" as the reactions from the students.

No one is overreacting to the original email. The students perceive the response to the original email to be callous and insensitive.

 

[bigbottom]

My issue is:

- the "America is too sensitive" crowd is just as oversensitive. They are overreacting to an email that just asked people to be respectful of each other. What is so wrong with that?

Who is overreacting to an email asking people to be respectful of each other? How is the quoted email from the female professor in any way an "overreaction" (other than its verbosity, I guess)?

The students are overreacting, and clearly this one female student is way overreacting. The female professor was responding to the original email basically giving credit to the students and their ability to make their own decisions as to what's acceptable and what is not. Some will make good decisions, and some will not.The students seem to not understand the intent of either emails. And they are coming across very poorly.

I get that. I was asking who was overreacting to the original email asking students to be respectful. The only reaction I'm aware of is the one from the professor and her husband and those reactions don't appear to be "just as oversensitive" as the reactions from the students.

No one is overreacting to the original email. The students perceive the response to the original email to be callous and insensitive.

Well, Ilov80s stated otherwise, which is why I was asking him to clarify.

 

[Ilov80s]

My issue is:

- the "America is too sensitive" crowd is just as oversensitive. They are overreacting to an email that just asked people to be respectful of each other. What is so wrong with that?

Who is overreacting to an email asking people to be respectful of each other? How is the quoted email from the female professor in any way an "overreaction" (other than its verbosity, I guess)?

As most have, I read the emails in the opposite order that they were composed. When reading the response email, I was very supportive. It mentioned censuring and probation. It asks for an open discussion and seemed to indicate that the school was now regulating or controlling Halloween costumes. Then, I read the original email. There are no formal rules, no punishments and if anything, it is asking students to be thoughtful and is the start of a conversation about costumes and cultural awareness. The reply email seems to be responding to things that aren't in the original email.

 

[Ilov80s]

So let's get this straight. This woman is screaming at a man because of something his wife wrote? Insinuating that he should have control over his woman and that the husband is ultimately responsible for his wife's words and actions is one of the most sexist attitudes I can imagine

The husband is quoted in the letter as saying if you don't like someone's costume then don't look at it.

 

[cstu]

My issue is:

- these kids at one of the most elite, spoiled and pompous places in the world do no represent an entire generation.

- just because she is acting like a toddler, it does not make her point invalid

- the "America is too sensitive" crowd is just as oversensitive. They are overreacting to an email that just asked people to be respectful of each other. What is so wrong with that?

Yep, would be more shocking if someone from Yale didn't act like an ###hole.

What's with the knee jerk anti-intellectualism regarding Yale? The 4 or 5 people I know who went there for undergrad or grad school are among the most accomplished and generous of my acquaintances. Isn't one of the themes of this thread that we shouldn't jump to conclusions about people we don't know and try to avoid sweeping generalizations that assume the worst about others?

I'm kidding but there's no denying that half of the students at Yale come from privileged backgrounds.

 

[Tom Skerritt]

My issue is:

- the "America is too sensitive" crowd is just as oversensitive. They are overreacting to an email that just asked people to be respectful of each other. What is so wrong with that?

Who is overreacting to an email asking people to be respectful of each other? How is the quoted email from the female professor in any way an "overreaction" (other than its verbosity, I guess)?

The students are overreacting, and clearly this one female student is way overreacting. The female professor was responding to the original email basically giving credit to the students and their ability to make their own decisions as to what's acceptable and what is not. Some will make good decisions, and some will not.The students seem to not understand the intent of either emails. And they are coming across very poorly.

I get that. I was asking who was overreacting to the original email asking students to be respectful. The only reaction I'm aware of is the one from the professor and her husband and those reactions don't appear to be "just as oversensitive" as the reactions from the students.

No one is overreacting to the original email. The students perceive the response to the original email to be callous and insensitive.

Well, Ilov80s stated otherwise, which is why I was asking him to clarify.

So is it possible that these Yale elites are trying to "outsmart" each other, and in the process are making everyone look dumb?

 

[McGarnicle]

WTF is up with college kids being so thin skinned and petty? Should be the best time of your life and it just seems like they go around with sticks up their asses, looking for reasons to be offended.

 

[General Malaise]

WTF is up with college kids being so thin skinned and petty? Should be the best time of your life and it just seems like they go around with sticks up their asses, looking for reasons to be offended.

If if they don't have sticks, some have turned to booze.

 

[Willie Neslon]

WTF is up with college kids being so thin skinned and petty? Should be the best time of your life and it just seems like they go around with sticks up their asses, looking for reasons to be offended.

Social media/twitter. Their whole lives revolve around it. Can't say anything even remotely controversial or get slammed by the masses.I wrote in a bio that I was a little like Rainman but without the autism, making a dumb joke and I got a nasty email from a woman with an autistic kid and another from a ex-teacher who had taught kids with autism. I didn't say anything remotely offensive.

 

[Ilov80s]

WTF is up with college kids being so thin skinned and petty? Should be the best time of your life and it just seems like they go around with sticks up their asses, looking for reasons to be offended.

Social media/twitter. Their whole lives revolve around it. Can't say anything even remotely controversial or get slammed by the masses.I wrote in a bio that I was a little like Rainman but without the autism, making a dumb joke and I got a nasty email from a woman with an autistic kid and another from a ex-teacher who had taught kids with autism. I didn't say anything remotely offensive.

2 people are the masses?

 

[Politician Spock]

WTF is up with college kids being so thin skinned and petty? Should be the best time of your life and it just seems like they go around with sticks up their asses, looking for reasons to be offended.

Social media/twitter. Their whole lives revolve around it. Can't say anything even remotely controversial or get slammed by the masses.I wrote in a bio that I was a little like Rainman but without the autism, making a dumb joke and I got a nasty email from a woman with an autistic kid and another from a ex-teacher who had taught kids with autism. I didn't say anything remotely offensive.

2 people are the masses?

It is considering how few people follow him on Twitter.

 

[Willie Neslon]

WTF is up with college kids being so thin skinned and petty? Should be the best time of your life and it just seems like they go around with sticks up their asses, looking for reasons to be offended.

Social media/twitter. Their whole lives revolve around it. Can't say anything even remotely controversial or get slammed by the masses.I wrote in a bio that I was a little like Rainman but without the autism, making a dumb joke and I got a nasty email from a woman with an autistic kid and another from a ex-teacher who had taught kids with autism. I didn't say anything remotely offensive.

2 people are the masses?

You're one of them, aren't you.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I'd play her game and write a letter to the editor stating that with the number of school shootings occurring because of disgruntled students, her outburst has created an unsafe environment and demand her expulsion.

I mean, we really can't risk it at this point, can we?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I like the girl in the back that about half way through grabs her friends and is all "Girl be crazy. Let's bounce."

 

[Politician Spock]

WTF is up with college kids being so thin skinned and petty? Should be the best time of your life and it just seems like they go around with sticks up their asses, looking for reasons to be offended.

Social media/twitter. Their whole lives revolve around it. Can't say anything even remotely controversial or get slammed by the masses.I wrote in a bio that I was a little like Rainman but without the autism, making a dumb joke and I got a nasty email from a woman with an autistic kid and another from a ex-teacher who had taught kids with autism. I didn't say anything remotely offensive.

2 people are the masses?

You're one of them, aren't you.

I'm offended.

 

[Fennis]

I like it when Andy speaks jive.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I like it when Andy speaks jive.

Tell your mom I said hi, friend from my hometown.

 

[Rove!]

Kids these days are all about micro-aggressions. Anything that could be taken as even slightly offensive to anybody is a problem. He was taking that on in his email and that's the response he got.

People are addicted to outrage. They will look for any excuse to ride their high horse and feel morally superior

 

[McGarnicle]

Kids these days are all about micro-aggressions. Anything that could be taken as even slightly offensive to anybody is a problem. He was taking that on in his email and that's the response he got.

People are addicted to outrage. They will look for any excuse to ride their high horse and feel morally superior

It is just sooooooo like you to say something like that.

 

[Tom Skerritt]

Apparently they even have an acronym for these type of people... SJW. Social Justice Warrior. Learned something new today.

 

[Stinger Ray]

Kids these days are all about micro-aggressions. Anything that could be taken as even slightly offensive to anybody is a problem. He was taking that on in his email and that's the response he got.

People are addicted to outrage. They will look for any excuse to ride their high horse and feel morally superior

It is just sooooooo like you to say something like that.

What he wrote is true.

 

[squistion]

Kids these days are all about micro-aggressions. Anything that could be taken as even slightly offensive to anybody is a problem. He was taking that on in his email and that's the response he got.

People are addicted to outrage. They will look for any excuse to ride their high horse and feel morally superior

As evidenced by the comments in this thread.

 

[AAABatteries]

Holy #### this thread is unreadable with the quoting - I'd rather watch the video of her screeching on a continuous loop over trying to read through this.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Kids these days are all about micro-aggressions. Anything that could be taken as even slightly offensive to anybody is a problem. He was taking that on in his email and that's the response he got.

People are addicted to outrage. They will look for any excuse to ride their high horse and feel morally superior

It is just sooooooo like you to say something like that.

:reported:

 

[Mr. Pickles]

Yale sounds neat.