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Yet another Pitt Bull attack (1 Viewer)

beavers said:
Due to selective breeding for the purposes of dogfighting, pit bulls are highly dog-aggressive. This aggression is not limited to dogs; pit bulls frequently kill other companion pets and domesticated animals. Leading pit bull education websites warn pit bull owners to, "Never trust your pit bull not to fight." These same websites also state that pit bulls should never be left alone with another dog or animal.18 The practical question is: Why is "pit bull dog aggression" tolerated at all?

Pit bull dog aggression is unacceptable for two reasons. In many instances it leads to human aggressi

on. A common scenario is the following: A loose pit bull attacks a leashed dog being walked by its owner. The owner gets seriously injured trying to stop the attack. In 2009, two human beings suffered death due to pit bull dog aggression: Rosie Humphreys, who had been walking her two poodles, and Carter Delaney, who had tried to protect a smaller dog in his home.

Secondly, far too many beloved companion pets and domesticated animals suffer a violent death by the powerful jaws of pit bull terriers each year. In some instances, these attacks involve pit bulls charging through screen doors of private homes -- in a home invasion attack -- to kill the pet living inside.19 Owners of the pet are then forced to watch as their pet is disemboweled by the pit bull and pray that the dog does not turn its attention on an innocent family member next.
Were you intending to answer someone else's post?  Because this response doesn't seem to fit my post.

Let's start with all the ones with chance greater than or equal to 8.78e-8 of killing you or your child.
 
A list of all pit bull fatalities toward children. http://www.dogsbite.org/staying-safe-family-dog-attacks.php
You're being evasive.  I asked if you applied the same "It only takes one time" logic to all of your decisions that involve a risk of death for you or your child greater than or equal to the possibility of you or your child being killed by a pit bull (8.78e-8 to 1).

I can only take your responses to mean "No".  It makes your concern over pit bulls seem all the more irrational.

 
You're being evasive.  I asked if you applied the same "It only takes one time" logic to all of your decisions that involve a risk of death for you or your child greater than or equal to the possibility of you or your child being killed by a pit bull (8.78e-8 to 1).

I can only take your responses to mean "No".  It makes your concern over pit bulls seem all the more irrational.
It does only take one time. I'm not sure what you want me to say here ... I'm not going to list the possible ways for a child fatality.

 
What would be your preferred method for killing your neighbours innocent dog and others like him? Round them up and burn them all alive? Gas them? 

 
That makes you a pretty terrible person.  Congrats.
Terrible is wanting to wipe out something because of ignorance. What I said was inappropriate and I should have been the bigger person and ignored his comment. Saying he wished death up his neighbors dog is totally uncalled for. He stated already he doesn't have the balls to say anything like that to the neighbor, but I'd love to hear the aftermath if neighbor caught wind of his ignorant remark. 

 
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Terrible is wanting to wipe out something because of ignorance. What I said was inappropriate and I should have been the bigger person and ignored his comment. Saying he wished death up his neighbors dog is totally uncalled for. He stated already he doesn't have the balls to say anything like they to the neighbor, but I'd love to hear the aftermath if neighbor caught wind of his ignorant remark. 
The horrible neighbor would probably send his killer monsters cute cuddly pits to do the dirty work.

 
Terrible is wanting to wipe out something because of ignorance. What I said was inappropriate and I should have been the bigger person and ignored his comment. Saying he wished death up his neighbors dog is totally uncalled for. He stated already he doesn't have the balls to say anything like that to the neighbor, but I'd love to hear the aftermath if neighbor caught wind of his ignorant remark. 
It's evident that you don't pay much attention ...

 
It does only take one time. I'm not sure what you want me to say here ... I'm not going to list the possible ways for a child fatality.
I don't really expect you to list them I was just wondering if you were preparing for them and worrying about them the same way you seem to be about pit bulls.

 
true or false: the 200+ kids who have been killed by pit bulls would still be alive today if those dogs were pugs.
true or false: the hundreds of thousands (maybe even millions) of people who have been killed riding bikes would still be alive today if they never rode a bike

 
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true or false: the 200+ kids who have been killed by pit bulls would still be alive today if those dogs were pugs.
It's not just that, the whole argument that people die on bikes is an apt analogy is stupid.  The bike doesn't kill the people because it will attack at random.

 
It's not just that, the whole argument that people die on bikes is an apt analogy is stupid.  The bike doesn't kill the people because it will attack at random.
Fine let's kill them all. The people that had pits before will get rots and the statistics previously held by pits will now be the same for rots. So we get rid of rots now. If we act together we can make it an all lap dog world. 

 
Numbers show Pit Bulls make up about 5-10% of the total dog population and account for over 50% of dog related deaths.

I'd say any breed whose kill % is 3x's or more than its total population % should be banned.  Pit Bulls are clocking in at 5-10x's kill ratio.

 
Numbers show Pit Bulls make up about 5-10% of the total dog population and account for over 50% of dog related deaths.

I'd say any breed whose kill % is 3x's or more than its total population % should be banned.  Pit Bulls are clocking in at 5-10x's kill ratio.
I'm on board if we can profile this way in all walks of life. 

 
beavers said:
 Pit bulls are genetically breed to be a viscous dog.
it is estimated that there are over 5 million pit bulls. if they are genetically bred to be viscous is it safe to assume there are hundreds of thousands of attacks and hundreds and hundreds of killings each year, since they are all viscous and all? 

 
All the time you wasted posting in here, beaver, you could have built the fence alreadly.

And breed restriction laws aren't cool. If I lived up the block from you and had a well behaved pit bull while you were trying to pass this crock of ####, we'd might have a problem. 

 
Advocacy can be tricky.  Sometimes one's advocacy may have exactly the opposite of the desired effect, presuming I can ascertain the desired effect.
I don't have much of an opinion on pit bull restrictions, but for the most part those that have a strong opinion either way push me in the direction against their side.

 
Seriously?  These are dogs...not humans. The more of these ticking time bombs that get eliminated the better.  
we get it...daddy never got you a puppy while you were growing up and you lost out on the joy of having the best most loyal friend you could ever have...its ok..we`re here to help you through your anger issues towards dogs and animals in general.

the funny thing is reading your posts i can honestly say any dog on this planet,including pits ,are better than you...you are more angry and hateful than any dog ive ever encountered....congrats

 
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we get it...daddy never got you a puppy while you were growing up and you lost out on the joy of having the best most loyal friend you could ever have...its ok..we`re here to help you through your anger issues towards dogs and animals in general.

the funny thing is reading your posts i can honestly say any dog on this planet,including pits ,are better than you...you are more angry and hateful than any dog ive ever encountered....congrats
:lmao:

I'll stick with humans for friends.  I've had dogs as pets, they are great...as pets.  They aren't friends, they are pets...something that brings a little happiness into your life, or in the case of pits, something that brings terror into many people's lives.

 
:lmao:

I'll stick with humans for friends.  I've had dogs as pets, they are great...as pets.  They aren't friends, they are pets...something that brings a little happiness into your life, or in the case of pits, something that brings terror into many people's lives.
its ok...im here for you if you need a hug brother

 
For what it's worth, my wife and I bought a Rotty (Sophie), right before we started having children.  I know, crazy right??

I had no concerns because we raised rottys when I was a kid and while my wife was originally hesitant, after spending quality time with Sophie and raising her from a small puppy, and then watching her interact with our infants, my wife never showed any concern.  Like any good dog/infant owner would do, we never left them alone in a room, but not because Sophie was a Rotty, but because Sophie was a dog.

Sophie passed away and we now have two pound muts.  Funny thing is they are half the size of Sophie, but I would feel way less secure with these mutts around infants - size doesn't always matter.

About 10 years ago my sister and her partner got an abused 2-year-old Pit Bull.  I thought they were crazy..  the dog was a major handful, basically barked and lunged any time she got close to a male, or even heard a male's voice.  They would cage her up when I came to visit.  They worked their asses off training that dog, and after 5-6 years that dog had no more issues with males, etc.  She now hangs out at kids pools parties and is friendly to everyone. 

For every horror story Pit Bull haters want to point to, there are hundreds of thousands of feel-good stories that would have never happened if those Pit Bull/Rotty haters had their way. 

And for those that point to the breed as the problem and not the owners, sorry, but you really have no clue what you're talking about.    

 
For what it's worth, my wife and I bought a Rotty (Sophie), right before we started having children.  I know, crazy right??

I had no concerns because we raised rottys when I was a kid and while my wife was originally hesitant, after spending quality time with Sophie and raising her from a small puppy, and then watching her interact with our infants, my wife never showed any concern.  Like any good dog/infant owner would do, we never left them alone in a room, but not because Sophie was a Rotty, but because Sophie was a dog.

Sophie passed away and we now have two pound muts.  Funny thing is they are half the size of Sophie, but I would feel way less secure with these mutts around infants - size doesn't always matter.

About 10 years ago my sister and her partner got an abused 2-year-old Pit Bull.  I thought they were crazy..  the dog was a major handful, basically barked and lunged any time she got close to a male, or even heard a male's voice.  They would cage her up when I came to visit.  They worked their asses off training that dog, and after 5-6 years that dog had no more issues with males, etc.  She now hangs out at kids pools parties and is friendly to everyone. 

For every horror story Pit Bull haters want to point to, there are hundreds of thousands of feel-good stories that would have never happened if those Pit Bull/Rotty haters had their way. 

And for those that point to the breed as the problem and not the owners, sorry, but you really have no clue what you're talking about.    
Good stuff here

 
Fine let's kill them all. The people that had pits before will get rots and the statistics previously held by pits will now be the same for rots. So we get rid of rots now. If we act together we can make it an all lap dog world. 
Sounds like a good plan to me

 
beavers said:
 Why should I have to pay for someone housing a dangerous dog? When I can easily avoid this cost ?
you're right beavers, you shouldn't have to pay for a fence when it's someone else's dog (a dog that you perceive as dangerous BTW). it's the responsibility of a dog owner to contain their dogs. we have about $8,000 invested in our fence and for you to put that into something is just asinine. even if we were told by God himself that our dogs would never harm even an ant, we would have the same fence up. i don't want my dogs getting hit by a car, have a run in with another animal or just being a nuisance to a neighbor by roaming around their yard. i realize not everyone likes dogs and they shouldn't have to worry about my dog roaming around on their property. not to mention, there is a pointer who roams around who lives somewhere near us, but i'm not sure exactly where and  the sucker always takes these massive dumps in our yard in my wife's flower gardens. :rant:

do your neighbors let their dogs run loose? if so, if or when you do decide to have a craft beer night sit down with them (i see you're from ohio as well. blackout stout is worth a try if you haven't yet :) ) if they allow their dogs to run  loose, i would politely explain to them that you have some reservations about dogs due to some past incidents and even though their dog may be perfectly fine that you both feel uncomfortable with him being allowed to roam free. you have a child who you love very much and have the child's best interest in mind and you really hope that this doesn't damage our relationship with each other.

if i'm that dog owner it may ring a bell with something that they've really never even considered or they may be angry. even if i was angry i would respect your decision to come to me and voice your concern.

now however, if you went behind my back and i found out about it, that to me would be considered a cowardly approach and i really would have no respect for you.

now if you do voice your concern and they continue to let their dog run loose and make you uneasy, i'd have no problem calling animal control to pick the dog up. you tried to do the right thing, approached the subject like an adult and tried to be a good neighbor. if they don't want to be responsible, then so be it. 

 

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