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Yet another Pitt Bull attack (1 Viewer)
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fantasycurse42
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Buying an emotional support crocodile.
Dedfin
Footballguy
Yeah that's a good point too. I'd be fine with crating all pets and putting them with luggage. IMO this therapy animal stuff invites risk like this.
IC FBGCav
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Sounds like the owner was required to crate the dog. He/she is at fault.
And who knows how poorly trained or abused the dog is/was.
The dog's specific breed isn't at fault here.
Finally, we don't know the whole story. Did the owner say "no" when asked if the dog can be touched? Did the girl bite the dog first? Who knows.
And who knows how poorly trained or abused the dog is/was.
The dog's specific breed isn't at fault here.
Finally, we don't know the whole story. Did the owner say "no" when asked if the dog can be touched? Did the girl bite the dog first? Who knows.
Dedfin
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Dedfin
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If you did that to feel better and you still actually want to contribute, then please fire away.
Gr00vus
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I don't think he got what you meant by "know your dog." To me it meant, don't have a pitbull, or, if you must, don't put it in the main cabin on a plane or have it loose on the concourse. I think he took at as, I know my dog would never hurt anyone even if it is a pitbull.
ChainsawU
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Y'all like to be afraid of things you read in the news. That's all this is. It's really not even about dogs. You're a grown man who is afraid of an animal. That's okay, you probably just were not raised around animals. You're ignorant when it comes to the subject. So you jump on a bandwagon that supports your opinion. It's a lack of mental toughness and it sticks out like a sore thumb to those who know better. Once you start taking accountability when you look in the mirror you'll probably stop being afraid of arbitrary things you let the "news" spoon feed you.
ChainsawU
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This statement can be made about any breed of dog. Any animal. Any size. Any demeanor.
Ignoramus
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ChainsawU
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Ignoramus
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Gr00vus
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Ignoramus
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ChainsawU
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I don't see how a man with first-hand knowledge of animal behavior can simply pick a breed of dog a hate it. Especially because of something he read in the news. It makes me think he is afraid. Being afraid of arbitrary things is like being afraid of monsters under your bed. Don't hate something just because you don't understand it. That type of thinking is not attractive. It says a lot about your character. You're basically tipping your hand and showing the world that you're weak. Don't be afraid of something the news spoon-feeds you. It's a concept that has more wide-ranging implications than just dogs. Picking something out and arbitrarily hating it is not a practice I'd want to be known for. Your weakness is showing.
DJackson10
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I really hate this BS of "Emotional support" animals. I work in retail with food and one customer kept bringing her dog in constantly non leashed sitting in her cart then putting the dog on the belt at the register etc. When another customer said something about the dog being on the register was unsanitary she threw the emotional support BS. Lady yeah no one is saying you can't have the dog in the store Emotional support or not IT SHOULDN"T BE ON THE REGISTER. My SD hates confrontations so he did nothing about it and told the other customer he can't tell her not to bring in the dog. I honestly wished people had some sort of DR approval saying this animal can stay for support because it seems like anyone and everyone can use the excuse to bring in some sort of animal. Hell in Texas I can own a Tiger and I could bring it everywhere and say oh it's emotional support and they can't do anything. The Dog here should've been at the very least crated
Alex P Keaton
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DJackson10
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Guess what so is a German Shepherd. But you don't here people complain about German Shepherds. My Grandparents dog was attacked by a German Shepherd and the dog was literally trained in Germany so only knew German commands. luckily My PopPop at the time who was in WW2 and knew German knew commands from what he was taught in the army and got the dog off his. I had Chow's in my neighborhood and one attacked a small kid. In my old neighborhood a baby was attacked by a Lab. GUESS WHAT? ALL DOGS CAN ATTACK AND KILL. You do realize they still have their wolf ancestry instincts in their DNA right. Here's a list from Children's Hospital of Philadelphia study on Dog attacks
Pit bulls
Rottweilers
German shepherds
Huskies
Wolf hybrids
Malamutes
Doberman pinschers
Chow-chows
Saint Bernards
Great Danes
A lot of people Love the Huskies and Malamutes a type of Husky Breed as well as Pinchers and German Shepherds. All very popular dogs. Attack almost as much as a Pit Bull but why don't they get the rep the Pit gets? A lot of it is from the media. It's your typical the name draws ratings. Look at Articles on different dogs attack. The PittBull Article the article or summary of what the Article is Clearly points how it was a Pitbull even in the headline. When it's a not Pit attack it's always X DOG ATTACKS X and no mention of the breed till further in the article. Yes I think most agree Pit Bulls are definitely Dangerous but so are these other dogs on the list who for some reason don't get the bad image the Pits do. Why? Because media and people love to make it about one certain topic.Pit Bull in the article or on the TV draws more ratings then German Shepherd or Husky. Pits are the most known dog in dog fighting rings. All Dogs are fairly aggress. Most people who own dogs and theres an attack at least inPhilly it's always from an owner who is incredible irresponsible. Your post just makes you sound ignorant to the whole topic. You are just using the buzzwords most anti Pit Bull people use. I just listed these other dogs are as most likely to attack as much as a Pit. I',m willing to bet you are fine with people having the other dogs on this list too
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DallasDMac
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Otis
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Otis
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Let’s help this along with a thought exercise, for the new folks, for the trillionth time:
whay happens if someone’s goldfish goes ape####? Anyone hurt?
how about a turtle? Maybe it breaks the skin if it nips you?
how about a chihuahua ?
ok, what about a pit bull? What if that animal goes bananas and attacks someone?
Oops, dead kid.
thanks for playing the dum dum game!
whay happens if someone’s goldfish goes ape####? Anyone hurt?
how about a turtle? Maybe it breaks the skin if it nips you?
how about a chihuahua ?
ok, what about a pit bull? What if that animal goes bananas and attacks someone?
Oops, dead kid.
thanks for playing the dum dum game!
Otis
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GUYS WTF ALL ANIMALS ATTACK
GUYS WTF CHIHUAHUAS ARE THE NASTIEST DOGS OF ALL
GUYS SHE WAS THE SWEETEST DOG I DUNNO WTF HAPPENED IT WAS SO SURPRISING
GUYS MY PIT IS THE SWEETEST CUTEST DOG AND WOULD NOT HURT A FLY HERES A PIC
these are all things incredibly stupid people say FYI
GUYS WTF CHIHUAHUAS ARE THE NASTIEST DOGS OF ALL
GUYS SHE WAS THE SWEETEST DOG I DUNNO WTF HAPPENED IT WAS SO SURPRISING
GUYS MY PIT IS THE SWEETEST CUTEST DOG AND WOULD NOT HURT A FLY HERES A PIC
these are all things incredibly stupid people say FYI
ChainsawU
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What's up man. How's your night going? Dude, you hit it on the head in a really straightforward way. Your argument aligns with mine. It's refreshing. What types of animals have you raised? Yo, there is a book called Pit Bull: The Battle over an American Icon by Bronwen Dickey. Have you read it? Your post sounds like you have. If you haven't read it, you'd like it. I know it opened my eyes to how we as Americans view our dogs, and also enlightened me on a lot of how we see each other in society. It was eye-opening for sure. I only read nonfiction, biographies and self-improvement and stuff and it was really good.
Dedfin
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Scott Tenorman
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DJackson10
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The owner of the dog happened to be a neighbor in the area he talked to a lot. He told him he was getting a Dog from Germany and My PopPop asked if he wanted to learn German as thats what the dog would most likely know and offered to help train the dog to English Commands as well for if he had to have someone dog sit or whatever. The Shepherds owner and My PopPop went by walking their dogs one day and the German snapped for some reason. He was also off it's leash as well. I guess the Owner panicked as he started shouting in English. So My PopPop then told him to shut up and Yelled in German at the Dog. The Dog Calmed down. Lucky for my PopPop's dog the Shepherd attacked him at the side of his body not his neck. The neighbor overall was a bit of a jerk. They lived in a gated community and the dude was an ### at times. A I know what I'm doing type who really didn't.Your PopPop knew that this particular German Shepherd only spoke German?
Johnny Rock
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That’s weak. Only legit Service Animals at our businesses. I bet your manager changes his tune when he’s out of a job because he’s fired after allowing this and a kid gets bitten or worse. Notice that the airline in the above example was named in the lawsuit. Deepest pockets. But people are dumb, including the stupids who think they need to allow pets in their businesses.
ILUVBEER99
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DJackson10
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Pretty good my Phillies just signed Bryce Harper so I'm pretty excited for Baseball for the first time in awhile. Haven't been this excited since Halladay came here. Anyway I've never had a dog. My mom had cocker Spaniels, and a beagle and my GrandPop's dog was a Portuguese WaterPoodle same one as in the last Paige I wrote my Uncle had that was hit by a car a few weeks before Christmas. In fact President Obama's Dog is the same as my PopPop and Uncle both had. We use to dog sit a lot. my Grandparents dog and I also have Aspergers so having the Dog around has always been very calming for me. My One Uncle Owned a Pitbull that he took in from a friend who moved and couldn't keep the dog. Very loving but he had some incredible ignorant neighbors. The dog was named Samson and he absolutely loved playing with the kids. My Dad's cousin owned Two Pits and he moved across the street from us for a year or two. The dogs use to escape the yard (I can't remember if they jumped the fence or what) a lot but were always very nice. They were very good with the neighbors especially when people would come around not from the area and were pretty protective of Kids as my 2nd cousin was separated with 2 kids the dogs were around. I was one of the few people they wouldn't run from though when we'd have to go after them. My 2nd cousin moved and took them to a shelter wish he asked if we wanted one as I would've love having the one who seemed to take to a huge liking of me and I knew a friend who just lost their dog and wanted a Pit the other could go and would be well taken care of. My Uncle has had numerous Golden Retrievers. I loved his first two Gus and Max and I spent a lot of time over at my aunt and Uncles house as he's also my Godfather. My PopPop's WaterPoodle we got when I was also fairly young I was around a ton as well.
I can't have any animals in my house with my parents because My dad is so allergic and my mom is semi allergic. I'd love to get a Shepherd/Husky Mix though or just a husky. One of the guys around my work lives at the corner of the shopping Center and had a Husky who was amazing. She had to be put down do to cancer and he got a new Husky. Both dogs super well trained. excellent he said with the young grandkids. He use to work for the township too. So I've been around dogs most of my life. My brother got a Black Lab I think pincher mix he named Buckley after Jeff Buckley the singer. We dog sit him and ton and he's very affectionate but the dog is scared ####less of almost everything. He also for some reason hates older adult men. I don't know why. He use to be incredible scared of my dad after he scared him the one day but he's gotten a little better. I wouldn't call myself a breed expert or anything but I've told a lot of friends and family I like Dogs a lot better then most people.
DJackson10
Footballguy
There's actually a PA law or something and we had to sign an agreement that said we couldn't question someone bring a dog into the grocery store Per PA laws ADA laws it's not all very clear. We can ask if it's a service animal and what services it's trained to perform but can't ask about the persons disabilities etc.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Plus it's not uncommon German Shepherds don't know German. The Dog was also trained at a German Military base and was gonna be used for the Military if it wasn't adopted.
I have never went looking for dog facts/stats, but just growing up here in central Cali I know about the problems with the pit bull. No other dog has the same negative rep.
Now somebody will try and.....no you see........I'm not going to buy it. There is no debate that these dogs are extremely dangerous and cause a lot of problems.
I don't fear dogs, I'm a big guy who carries a serious knife, but, have looked across the street and there stands a pit eyeing me, yep....seriously concerned. Any other dog gets little attention.
Now somebody will try and.....no you see........I'm not going to buy it. There is no debate that these dogs are extremely dangerous and cause a lot of problems.
I don't fear dogs, I'm a big guy who carries a serious knife, but, have looked across the street and there stands a pit eyeing me, yep....seriously concerned. Any other dog gets little attention.
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parasaurolophus
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Huskies get preferential media treatment.
Must have scott boras as their agent.
Must have scott boras as their agent.
Ignoramus
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parasaurolophus
Footballguy
I think a rabid pack of 6 once killed somebody iirc. Thats obviously a comparable situation.
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
Ok well mostly true.
What's true
A woman in Oklahoma was killed by a pack of dogs, and according to a technician who euthanized the animals, most of them were dachshund mixes.
What's False
The victim was not attacked by a pack of vicious, small, hot dog-shaped purebred dachshunds.
ChainsawU
Footballguy
I didn't mean for you to lose sleep last night & I'm sorry I was the first thing you thought of this morning. My behavior yesterday was definitely provocative and I apologize. I was sincerely trying to make a point - to never judge a book by its cover, and how that applies to dogs and people alike. Ignoramous, I know where you're coming from. I really do. I'm with you on the surface. But digging deeper - I think that making blanket assumptions is rarely a good idea. That's my only point is just to dig deeper. Not who is right or wrong. It's a big deal to me. I honestly think that making blanket assumptions about an entire breed of dog strongly parallels making blanket assumptions about an entire race of people. It's never been a good idea - and looking deeper into the situation can give insight as to why that's true. Sorry again for provoking you yesterday.Ignoramus said:
Ignoramus
Footballguy
Thanks. I really didn't sleep much at all last night. Not because of message board stuff, but because I'm a lousy sleeper anyway and especially so when I'm on the road.
I only mentioned you looking for substantiation to your claims because you had subsequent posts in here since then.
As to judging breeds of dogs and comparing them to people, that's just silly. Different breeds of dogs exist solely because we selected specific traits we wanted in those specific breeds. You absolutely can judge them by their appearance because we made them that way. From appearance to size to temperament to ability to inflict serious harm on people... we bred them specifically for a purpose.
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
It is actually perfectly fitting. Especially if you do any homework on the story.
These look like dash hounds to you? I say dash hound because the person they used to identify the dogs for the original stories pronounced it that way. The vet that pronounced them dead had a different thought on how dashy they were.
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