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I said the opposite. That they do have an effect. https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/topic/520448-yet-another-pitt-bull-attack/?do=findComment&comment=20715931
I agree that it's not a single facet problem but the dog owner is a HUGE part of the problem.
Wow, hoping my family dies because the type of dog i own on Christmas?? and pit-bill owners are the dregs of our society right?? I'm going to assume i am misinterpreting your comment here, but honestly you can suck a #### either way for even hinting at my family deserving to die. You sound like a miserable piece of #### anyway, so it doesn't bother me too much.
Its an emotional response against people willing to risk all their neighbors and fellow citizens because they have to have a certain breed of dog.
I agree. ####ty owner and a dog that is capable of severe damage is a bad combination.
you are all truly insane. if my dog ever case close to looking like she would attack anybody maybe i would listen. Sorry, i take the hard data from the last 10 years that my dog is ok. i don't think anyone on here is saying every single pit-bull in America is fine, but assuming all are something they are completely not is willfully ignorant. keep living in this created world, believe my neighbors are not deathly afraid of my dog like some of you in here
Yeah, the people killed on christmas eve by another pit attack was just about your dog.
i am not taking any position about all dogs in America and their owners you goofballs. There is a stance in this thread that all pitbulls should be killed/outlawed. I have a pitbull, and i disagree.
there are all kinds of instances where people own dangerous (and some illegal) stuff and nobody ever gets hurts from those either.
let's just remember i popped in here today because someone in here hoped my family died because of the breed of dog i have. just let that sink in
Almost all dog owners are bad owners. Then when they get their hands on a dog bred to bite and hold no matter what the consequences are. What do you think is going to happen?
So you are saying something like your dog would only attack with kisses? Never heard that stupid crap before. Oh wait, just read the same ridiculous stuff in an article about a pit bull killing.
Hell, let’s go back prior to the “years early on that you were less sure.” Let’s go right to the part where you and Mrs. Doglover and Jr. Doglover are all standing around around at your local PetCo looking at all the dogs and one of you says “oh, what about that pit bull. Because that seems like a great idea.”
Should we ban other large dog breeds capable of severe damage as well?
It’s like we keep having the same conversation.
It's a logical solution but the majority of the anti-pitbull crowd is so gun-ho on eliminating the breed they aren't offering any other solutions.
I haven't seen anyone say eliminate the breed. We dont eliminate other animals that are unfit as pets.
Don’t be silly. It’s only the horrible, POS pit bull owners that are at risk of being mauled to death.
Yeah! Maybe we shouldn’t be so quick to judge. There could have been another animal. Maybe it was a werewolf that attacked her and the dogs ripped her up trying to protect her from the werewolf! Or aliens. Can’t rule out aliens as the attackers...
I have nothing to do with his crazy comment - just like labs have nothing to do pit bulls mauling people.
No, although after we start with pit bulls I’d be open to looking at other breeds.
Right - if it’s not a pit bull then I’m not talking about that in hear. Fee free to start a thread about Labs and their attacks and I’ll maybe post in it.
My reply is about pit bull defenders constantly saying stupid #### like “should we ban all large breeds?” or “what about labs??!? - look at this link I found that proves my assanine point!”. This thread is about pit bulls and the unfortunate fact that they are in the news somewhat regularly where they maul someone to death.
You just brought up labs and I linked an article on them?
You guys are running some grade A schtick in here....it's gotta be shtick.
There is a big difference between "capable of" and "bred for". I dont know why you keep bringing up other dogs. It does nothing to disprove the fact that pit bulls were bred for a pretty sick purpose and have a built in ability to inflict a lot of harm. No other dog breed has any effect on that.
I think that the "pit bull defenders" have produced real data and logical points, along with some pretty cool personal stories. On the other hand, I think other men in the thread are afraid of imaginary monsters and are on a witch hunt.
So you do all of this defending of a breed and you dont even know what it was bred for?????? That shouldnt surprise me, but i guess i expect more from fbg's.
Okay. Well why don't you tell us. That way we can all get on the same page about what we're arguing about. Because when you say they "were bred to hold onto a bull's snout that has had hot pepper put in its nostrils to enrage it" I don't know what that means. And honestly, it sounds like something out of a demented Disney movie.
You seriously haven't ever read about bull baiting?
What real data do you think has been presented by the pro-pit folks? Because the only data I see doesn't look great for your side:
https://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities-2015.php
https://www.livescience.com/27145-are-pit-bulls-dangerous.html
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2387261/
Well, that's a lot you just put on my plate. I'll take a look at it, but right off the bat I can tell you that the woman who made that dogsbite website, Colleen Lynn, has no professional credentials in statistics, epidemiology, or animal behavior, and neither do the sources she frequently relies on. And before her dog bite injury that prompted her to start the website she maintained a fortune-telling web site.
It is this ability to hold onto something no matter what is happening around it that gave the pit bull the false reputation of having a locking jaw or some sort of insane bite strength. Their raw bite strength or physical construction of their jaw has almost nothing to do with it. Tons of dogs are physically strong enough and have teeth big enough that if they had the same disposition as a pit bull they would be able to hold on. For most it just becomes instinct when they are being hit, kicked, slammed, etc to let go and protect themselves. A pit bull was bred differently.
So no other dog was bred for fighting?
