You're Told a Bottle of Wine Costs "Thirty-Seven-Fifty"... (1 Viewer)

[Sinn Fein]

I gave them a 5-star rating. Their rating is still at 4-stars, and they have a name brand, and located off a casino floor? yelp won't matter to them. People who order $3750 bottles of whine, don't check yelp....

Seems like there's more than 1 steakhouse in that casino. If i'm from out of town visiting, i'm probably going to whichever one is rated higher. If Flay's drops to 3.5 and the other one is 4 or higher then it's an easy choice.

@ taking a 4.0 versus 3.5 rating on Yelp as a true indication of anything.

I gave it a 5 star rating saying the staff was helpful, and they had a great wine selection - 2 people found that helpful...

 

[jon_mx]

If you really look at it, after the manager's statement, I believe the customer has a defamation of character lawsuit against the restaurant. The customer just told his side of the story in which you could see the blame on both sides. The manager on the otherhand made a definitive statement that there was no misunderstanding, which clearly implies the customer is a swindler and is lying. At first it was something that I would have probably dropped as a lesson learned. But with the manager's statement, I would throw a $1+ million lawsuit at them.

You have a better chance of catching ebola, than you do of winning that suit.

I would wager they would get a settlement. Something in the line of an apology and $2200, which would be the undisclosed amount.

 

[Sinn Fein]

If you really look at it, after the manager's statement, I believe the customer has a defamation of character lawsuit against the restaurant. The customer just told his side of the story in which you could see the blame on both sides. The manager on the otherhand made a definitive statement that there was no misunderstanding, which clearly implies the customer is a swindler and is lying. At first it was something that I would have probably dropped as a lesson learned. But with the manager's statement, I would throw a $1+ million lawsuit at them.

You have a better chance of catching ebola, than you do of winning that suit.

I would wager they would get a settlement. Something in the line of an apology and $2200, which would be the undisclosed amount.

Good luck finding an attorney willing to take a case on a contingency with a $2200 settlement upside.

 

[jon_mx]

If you really look at it, after the manager's statement, I believe the customer has a defamation of character lawsuit against the restaurant. The customer just told his side of the story in which you could see the blame on both sides. The manager on the otherhand made a definitive statement that there was no misunderstanding, which clearly implies the customer is a swindler and is lying. At first it was something that I would have probably dropped as a lesson learned. But with the manager's statement, I would throw a $1+ million lawsuit at them.

You have a better chance of catching ebola, than you do of winning that suit.

I would wager they would get a settlement. Something in the line of an apology and $2200, which would be the undisclosed amount.

Good luck finding an attorney willing to take a case on a contingency with a $2200 settlement upside.

I would assume they could get legal fees on top of that. Besides, it would be worth it just for the publicity for the lawyer.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

The only way I would pay that for a bottle of wine is if Mila Kunis was using it to reprise Salma Hayek's role in From Dusk to Dawn, and I was playing the part of Quintin Tarantino and the scene had been rewritten to include us doing it right after the drinking.

 

[Sinn Fein]

If you really look at it, after the manager's statement, I believe the customer has a defamation of character lawsuit against the restaurant. The customer just told his side of the story in which you could see the blame on both sides. The manager on the otherhand made a definitive statement that there was no misunderstanding, which clearly implies the customer is a swindler and is lying. At first it was something that I would have probably dropped as a lesson learned. But with the manager's statement, I would throw a $1+ million lawsuit at them.

You have a better chance of catching ebola, than you do of winning that suit.

I would wager they would get a settlement. Something in the line of an apology and $2200, which would be the undisclosed amount.

Good luck finding an attorney willing to take a case on a contingency with a $2200 settlement upside.

I would assume they could get legal fees on top of that. Besides, it would be worth it just for the publicity for the lawyer.

 

[Bucky86]

I gave them a 5-star rating. Their rating is still at 4-stars, and they have a name brand, and located off a casino floor? yelp won't matter to them. People who order $3750 bottles of whine, don't check yelp....

Seems like there's more than 1 steakhouse in that casino. If i'm from out of town visiting, i'm probably going to whichever one is rated higher. If Flay's drops to 3.5 and the other one is 4 or higher then it's an easy choice.

@ taking a 4.0 versus 3.5 rating on Yelp as a true indication of anything.

I'm not sure whats so funny? Do you think theres nobody in this world that would decide one over the other based on their yelp rating? Then how does yelp even exist if their ratings have no effect whatsoever?

 

[jonessed]

I gave them a 5-star rating. Their rating is still at 4-stars, and they have a name brand, and located off a casino floor? yelp won't matter to them. People who order $3750 bottles of whine, don't check yelp....

Seems like there's more than 1 steakhouse in that casino. If i'm from out of town visiting, i'm probably going to whichever one is rated higher. If Flay's drops to 3.5 and the other one is 4 or higher then it's an easy choice.

@ taking a 4.0 versus 3.5 rating on Yelp as a true indication of anything.

I'm not sure whats so funny? Do you think theres nobody in this world that would decide one over the other based on their yelp rating? Then how does yelp even exist if their ratings have no effect whatsoever?

If there are a lot of ratings the difference between 3.5 and 4 stars would be pretty significant. 3.5 stars for a steak house would be no bueno.

 

[Christo]

I gave them a 5-star rating. Their rating is still at 4-stars, and they have a name brand, and located off a casino floor? yelp won't matter to them. People who order $3750 bottles of whine, don't check yelp....

Seems like there's more than 1 steakhouse in that casino. If i'm from out of town visiting, i'm probably going to whichever one is rated higher. If Flay's drops to 3.5 and the other one is 4 or higher then it's an easy choice.

@ taking a 4.0 versus 3.5 rating on Yelp as a true indication of anything.

I'm not sure whats so funny? Do you think theres nobody in this world that would decide one over the other based on their yelp rating? Then how does yelp even exist if their ratings have no effect whatsoever?

I'm sure there are people who would make their decision based solely upon that. I never said people don't make that sort of decision. I'm at those people.

 

[NCCommish]

Here's the thing. Bobby Flay is a brand. This is about way more than one bottle of wine for him. This is about people maybe not watching his TV shows. This is about advertisers being wary to bring on someone with controversy to sell their product. Pretty sure TWC is paying big money for that commercial he is doing right now. Maybe they stop airing it if people start complaining costing him. Look what happened with Rob Schneider. They dropped him like a hot rock once the backlash started.

So to me if I were Flay I would have gotten out ahead of this. Cemented a good guy image. Even get some free positive press. Definitely invest some pennies to make dollars down the road.

This is the land of the customer is always right after all.

 

[cstu]

Can we get a screenshot of the wine list again? What was the average bottle of wine priced at? Did the list go from $30, $40, $50, $75, $100, $135, $150, $275, $250, $280, $300, $365 and then jumping to $3750?

If so, it is seems very likely the waiter pointed in the general area of a bottle wine and said "thirty seven fifty" If you're a few drinks in, and not wearing reading glasses, I could EASILY see someone not realizing they were pointing to the most expensive bottle and just agreeing thinking it couldn't be more than $200.

IMO. First fault goes to the manager. I'm instructing my wait staff to not ever push a $3k bottle of wine unless its some Sheik( ) rolling up with gold wine goblets and ordering 50 Wagyu steaks. Second fault goes again to the manager for not double checking. It takes two seconds to introduce yourself and say,"it'll be our pleasure to serve you our finest bottle of wine" and slip in the prices somehow BEFORE opening it. COVER YOUR OWN ###. You're not going to offend anyone. It's not like they just ordered an $80 steak and you're asking them if they're okay with the price. This is a freaking MORTGAGE payment.

Wine list. Lowest price on that page is $780.

It's really a shame that since they offered up a bottle of wine more than $700 less expensive as "their best," this may really hurt their sales of the Pauillac, Chateau Mouton Rothschild 1982 for $4501.

LOL at the 01. I can only assume that's there so that the waitress can say "forty-five oh one" instead of "forty-five hundred."

The Chateau Petrus, Pomerol 1998 Magnum has a $20k+ markup.

 

[Foosball God]

Here's the thing. Bobby Flay is a brand. This is about way more than one bottle of wine for him. This is about people maybe not watching his TV shows. This is about advertisers being wary to bring on someone with controversy to sell their product. Pretty sure TWC is paying big money for that commercial he is doing right now. Maybe they stop airing it if people start complaining costing him. Look what happened with Rob Schneider. They dropped him like a hot rock once the backlash started.

So to me if I were Flay I would have gotten out ahead of this. Cemented a good guy image. Even get some free positive press. Definitely invest some pennies to make dollars down the road.

This is the land of the customer is always right after all.

I think this goes away without it being a blip on his radar. A bunch of business men have to pay for an outrageously expensive bottle of wine. bfd.

 

[NCCommish]

Here's the thing. Bobby Flay is a brand. This is about way more than one bottle of wine for him. This is about people maybe not watching his TV shows. This is about advertisers being wary to bring on someone with controversy to sell their product. Pretty sure TWC is paying big money for that commercial he is doing right now. Maybe they stop airing it if people start complaining costing him. Look what happened with Rob Schneider. They dropped him like a hot rock once the backlash started.

So to me if I were Flay I would have gotten out ahead of this. Cemented a good guy image. Even get some free positive press. Definitely invest some pennies to make dollars down the road.

This is the land of the customer is always right after all.

I think this goes away without it being a blip on his radar. A bunch of business men have to pay for an outrageously expensive bottle of wine. bfd.

Maybe but you never can tell today. It seems we have stuff start out that is no biggie and blows up the more it hangs around. Someone says or does something stupid and it gets ugly. To me in today's world of instant judgement and instant access you are better off avoiding something like this hanging around. Defuse it and let the internet move on to the next shiny thing.

If my advice were solicited this is what I would offer. Comp the whole meal as it is a drop in the bucket. Send the person who paid some kind of letter apologizing for the misunderstanding along with a nice bottle of wine. And it is over. The internet shrugs it's shoulders and looks for it's next source of outrage.

 

[jon_mx]

Here's the thing. Bobby Flay is a brand. This is about way more than one bottle of wine for him. This is about people maybe not watching his TV shows. This is about advertisers being wary to bring on someone with controversy to sell their product. Pretty sure TWC is paying big money for that commercial he is doing right now. Maybe they stop airing it if people start complaining costing him. Look what happened with Rob Schneider. They dropped him like a hot rock once the backlash started.

So to me if I were Flay I would have gotten out ahead of this. Cemented a good guy image. Even get some free positive press. Definitely invest some pennies to make dollars down the road.

This is the land of the customer is always right after all.

I think this goes away without it being a blip on his radar. A bunch of business men have to pay for an outrageously expensive bottle of wine. bfd.

Maybe but you never can tell today. It seems we have stuff start out that is no biggie and blows up the more it hangs around. Someone says or does something stupid and it gets ugly. To me in today's world of instant judgement and instant access you are better off avoiding something like this hanging around. Defuse it and let the internet move on to the next shiny thing.

If my advice were solicited this is what I would offer. Comp the whole meal as it is a drop in the bucket. Send the person who paid some kind of letter apologizing for the misunderstanding along with a nice bottle of wine. And it is over. The internet shrugs it's shoulders and looks for it's next source of outrage.

Exactly. It was an opportunity to get a million dollars worth of good publicity for $2000 and instead it is all negative so far. The story will probably drop off the radar unless they follow it up with some kind of lawsuit. And then more negative publicity. The manager handled it like a d-bag, imho.

 

[Sinn Fein]

There is a Merlot and Bordeaux for under $40 next cheapest bottle of "Red Meat" Red is $60

I don't know much about wine either, but I am guessing you fire a waitress if she points out a $37.50 bottle of wine as your "nicest" among that list/price range.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

37.50.

The waitress knew exactly what she was doing. I'd withhold tip if possible.

 

[jon_mx]

37.50.

The waitress knew exactly what she was doing. I'd withhold tip if possible.

Just the tip?

 

[Sinn Fein]

37.50.

The waitress knew exactly what she was doing. I'd withhold tip if possible.

Bull#### - there are 7 bottles under $37.50 on the entire menu - which includes "50 under $50" and none of the bottles, or glasses, or magnums are quoted in anything other than whole dollars.

This is not wine-in-a-box....

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

If they're going out of their way to promote they have so many wines "under $50", then $37.50 is perfectly reasonable perception no matter what else is on the menu.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Exactly. It was an opportunity to get a million dollars worth of good publicity for $2000 and instead it is all negative so far. The story will probably drop off the radar unless they follow it up with some kind of lawsuit. And then more negative publicity. The manager handled it like a d-bag, imho.

I don't think it would have been anywhere near a million dollars' worth of good publicity.

And they'll have a hard time following up with some kind of lawsuit after they already settled.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

If they're going out of their way to promote they have so many wines "under $50", then $37.50 is perfectly reasonable perception no matter what else is on the menu.

I shouldn't have to explain this, but the "50 under $50" list features wines that are under $5,000.

 

[cstu]

Exactly. It was an opportunity to get a million dollars worth of good publicity for $2000 and instead it is all negative so far. The story will probably drop off the radar unless they follow it up with some kind of lawsuit. And then more negative publicity. The manager handled it like a d-bag, imho.

I don't think it would have been anywhere near a million dollars' worth of good publicity.

And they'll have a hard time following up with some kind of lawsuit after they already settled.

Flay has made $15M off his image, any hit to that could easily cost him a million.

 

[jhib]

If they're going out of their way to promote they have so many wines "under $50", then $37.50 is perfectly reasonable perception no matter what else is on the menu.

I shouldn't have to explain this, but the "50 under $50" list features wines that are under $5,000.

 

[Sinn Fein]

If they're going out of their way to promote they have so many wines "under $50", then $37.50 is perfectly reasonable perception no matter what else is on the menu.

How did you decipher that "under 50" meant $50, and not $0.50?

If Thirty-seven fifty = $37.50, shouldn't fifty = $0.50?

 

[avoiding injuries]

If they're going out of their way to promote they have so many wines "under $50", then $37.50 is perfectly reasonable perception no matter what else is on the menu.

How did you decipher that "under 50" meant $50, and not $0.50?

If Thirty-seven fifty = $37.50, shouldn't fifty = $0.50?

Terrible

 

[Sinn Fein]

If they're going out of their way to promote they have so many wines "under $50", then $37.50 is perfectly reasonable perception no matter what else is on the menu.

How did you decipher that "under 50" meant $50, and not $0.50?

If Thirty-seven fifty = $37.50, shouldn't fifty = $0.50?

Terrible

Tough to have it both ways imo - I seriously doubt this guy knew the price was $3750 or $37.50 - my guess is he never heard the price at all, and never looked at the menu to see what he ordered.

Here is the page (minus the formatting) - how is he looking at this and coming up with $37.50?

AMERICAN CABERNET SAUVIGNON AND PROPRIETARY BLENDS

23218 Bond 'Vecina', Oakville 2007 780

24157 Bond 'Pluribus', Oakville 2007 783

23260 Bond 'Pluribus', Oakville 2008 815

23261 Bond 'Melbury', Oakville 2008 825

23259 Bond 'Vecina', Oakville 2008 830

23262 Bond 'St. Eden', Oakville 2008 840

23207 Colgin 'Tychson Hill', St. Helena 2003 858

23212 Colgin 'IX Estate', St. Helena 2008 870

23222 Colgin 'Tychson Hill', St. Helena 2007 927

23211 Colgin 'Cariad', Napa Valley 2008 972

24084 ZD 'Abacus XV', Napa Valley MV 1109

24229 Bryant Family Vineyard 'Bettina', St Helena 2009 1125

23267 Screaming Eagle 'Second Flight', Oakville 2007 1199

24194 Bryant Family Vineyard, St. Helena 2009 1200

23232 Sloan 'Estate', Rutherford 2008 1580

24113 Harlan, Napa Valley 2009 1950

23073 Screaming Eagle, Oakville 2011 3750

 

[Eephus]

Wait til you guys find out two buck Chuck isn't two dollars anymore.

 

[Christo]

Wait til you guys find out two buck Chuck isn't two dollars anymore.

Two bucks?

 

[cstu]

Tough to have it both ways imo - I seriously doubt this guy knew the price was $3750 or $37.50 - my guess is he never heard the price at all, and never looked at the menu to see what he ordered.

That would be my guess. I consider myself a somewhat experienced wine drinker but it absolutely would never have occurred to me that a waitress would recommend a $3750 wine.

 

[jon_mx]

Tough to have it both ways imo - I seriously doubt this guy knew the price was $3750 or $37.50 - my guess is he never heard the price at all, and never looked at the menu to see what he ordered.

That would be my guess. I consider myself a somewhat experienced wine drinker but it absolutely would never have occurred to me that a waitress would recommend a $3750 wine.

Especially at a $40 steak place. This is just a step above a Texas Roadhouse.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

If they're going out of their way to promote they have so many wines "under $50", then $37.50 is perfectly reasonable perception no matter what else is on the menu.

How did you decipher that "under 50" meant $50, and not $0.50?

If Thirty-seven fifty = $37.50, shouldn't fifty = $0.50?

Terrible

Tough to have it both ways imo

No one is trying to have it both ways.

 

[fantasycurse42]

If they're going out of their way to promote they have so many wines "under $50", then $37.50 is perfectly reasonable perception no matter what else is on the menu.

How did you decipher that "under 50" meant $50, and not $0.50?

If Thirty-seven fifty = $37.50, shouldn't fifty = $0.50?

Terrible

Tough to have it both ways imo - I seriously doubt this guy knew the price was $3750 or $37.50 - my guess is he never heard the price at all, and never looked at the menu to see what he ordered.Here is the page (minus the formatting) - how is he looking at this and coming up with $37.50?

AMERICAN CABERNET SAUVIGNON AND PROPRIETARY BLENDS

23218 Bond 'Vecina', Oakville 2007 780

24157 Bond 'Pluribus', Oakville 2007 783

23260 Bond 'Pluribus', Oakville 2008 815

23261 Bond 'Melbury', Oakville 2008 825

23259 Bond 'Vecina', Oakville 2008 830

23262 Bond 'St. Eden', Oakville 2008 840

23207 Colgin 'Tychson Hill', St. Helena 2003 858

23212 Colgin 'IX Estate', St. Helena 2008 870

23222 Colgin 'Tychson Hill', St. Helena 2007 927

23211 Colgin 'Cariad', Napa Valley 2008 972

24084 ZD 'Abacus XV', Napa Valley MV 1109

24229 Bryant Family Vineyard 'Bettina', St Helena 2009 1125

23267 Screaming Eagle 'Second Flight', Oakville 2007 1199

24194 Bryant Family Vineyard, St. Helena 2009 1200

23232 Sloan 'Estate', Rutherford 2008 1580

24113 Harlan, Napa Valley 2009 1950

23073 Screaming Eagle, Oakville 2011 3750

Wow, it's triple everything but two wines listed on that page of already expensive wines. Huge balls to recommend that. I usually tip around 22-24% at a nice restaturant, but a recommendation like that and I'd prob dropping down to the 16-18% range.

 

[jon_mx]

A few of the outlets who have run stories on this. Plus there are countless blogs and internet discussions.

MarketWatch

The Post-Standard (Syracuse)

Philadelphia Magazine

The Plain Dealer (Cleveland)

CBS Local (New York)

New York Daly News

New York Post

The Star-Ledger (Newark)

Philly.com

Mother Nature

Fox Local (New York)

Fox Local (Philly)

SF Gate

ABC Local (Atlantic City)

Telegraph UK

 

[Foosball God]

Tough to have it both ways imo - I seriously doubt this guy knew the price was $3750 or $37.50 - my guess is he never heard the price at all, and never looked at the menu to see what he ordered.

That would be my guess. I consider myself a somewhat experienced wine drinker but it absolutely would never have occurred to me that a waitress would recommend a $3750 wine.

Even if you asked for "the best"

 

[Guest]

Tough to have it both ways imo - I seriously doubt this guy knew the price was $3750 or $37.50 - my guess is he never heard the price at all, and never looked at the menu to see what he ordered.

That would be my guess. I consider myself a somewhat experienced wine drinker but it absolutely would never have occurred to me that a waitress would recommend a $3750 wine.

Especially at a $40 steak place. This is just a step above a Texas Roadhouse.

Speaking if which, I would pay good money to see a prank show where they made guests at Texas Roadhouse think they accidentally ordered a $3,750 bottle of wine. That would probably go over well.

 

[avoiding injuries]

I'm too frugal to have not known exactly what the wine cost before I agreed to it, but if I ask for a recommendation after saying I don't know much about wine and they suggest a $3k+ bottle, there's likely to be some sort of a scene at my table.

And Sinn, if thirty-seven fifty is $37.50 in our minds, then fifty is $50, not .50. You start before the decimal.

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

I can't believe the Borgata/FLAY hasn't given this guy back his money yet. I guess the Borgata doesn't want every hayseed eating in their casino and using the excuse "HEY I THOUGHT THE PRICE WAS LOWER!"

 

[jon_mx]

Tough to have it both ways imo - I seriously doubt this guy knew the price was $3750 or $37.50 - my guess is he never heard the price at all, and never looked at the menu to see what he ordered.

That would be my guess. I consider myself a somewhat experienced wine drinker but it absolutely would never have occurred to me that a waitress would recommend a $3750 wine.

Even if you asked for "the best"

That is disputed. According to the customer he has for a good wine. It is the waiter who says he asked for the best.

 

[jon_mx]

I can't believe the Borgata/FLAY hasn't given this guy back his money yet. I guess the Borgata doesn't want every hayseed eating in their casino and using the excuse "HEY I THOUGHT THE PRICE WAS LOWER!"

If the waiter followed protocol and not offered a ridiculously overpriced bottle of wine, this would not be an issue.

 

[jon_mx]

Here is a story which clarifies what the guy said he asked for, "something decent". Much different that what the waiter claims, "the best".

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — That’s really something to whine about!

Last week, Joe Lentini of Hazlet, New Jersey was dining at Bobby Flay Steak at the Borgata [SIZE=inherit]Hotel[/SIZE] and Casino in Atlantic City.

The host at a table of 10, told Lentini to choose a wine.

Lentini told NJ.com he asked the waitress to make a suggestion. “I asked the waitress if she could recommend something decent because I don’t have experience with wine,” Lentini told NJ.com. “She pointed to a bottle on the menu. I didn’t have my glasses. I asked how much and she said, ‘Thirty-seven fifty.'”

Everyone at the table agreed to the [SIZE=inherit]price[/SIZE] and ordered the wine.

When the bill came, the wine, Screaming Eagle, Oakville 2011, was $3,750 — not $37.50 as Lentini thought.

Lentini said he called the waitress over and explained the mix-up and that he would never have ordered a nearly $4,000 bottle of wine.

“I said the waitress told me [SIZE=inherit]it cost[/SIZE] ‘thirty-seven fifty,’ not ‘three-thousand, seven-hundred and fifty dollars,'” Lentini told NJ.com.

After a back and forth, the [SIZE=inherit]restaurant[/SIZE] said the best they could do was lower the price to $2,200 which several diners split, Lentini said.

And how was the wine after all that? “It was okay. It was good. It wasn’t great. It wasn’t terrible. It was fine,” Lentini told the [SIZE=inherit]paper[/SIZE].

Bottles of wine at Bobby Flay Steak start at $34 and go all the way up to $30,000 for an imperial six liter Chateau Petrus, Pomerol 1998.

 

[thayman]

I can't believe the Borgata/FLAY hasn't given this guy back his money yet. I guess the Borgata doesn't want every hayseed eating in their casino and using the excuse "HEY I THOUGHT THE PRICE WAS LOWER!"

Yeah it's almost like they have the whole exchange on camera and found that although their staff could have done things a little better, they didn't do anything wrong.

 

[otello]

$37.50

 

[NCCommish]

Here is a story which clarifies what the guy said he asked for, "something decent". Much different that what the waiter claims, "the best".

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — That’s really something to whine about!

Last week, Joe Lentini of Hazlet, New Jersey was dining at Bobby Flay Steak at the Borgata [SIZE=inherit]Hotel[/SIZE] and Casino in Atlantic City.

The host at a table of 10, told Lentini to choose a wine.

Lentini told NJ.com he asked the waitress to make a suggestion. “I asked the waitress if she could recommend something decent because I don’t have experience with wine,” Lentini told NJ.com. “She pointed to a bottle on the menu. I didn’t have my glasses. I asked how much and she said, ‘Thirty-seven fifty.'”

Everyone at the table agreed to the [SIZE=inherit]price[/SIZE] and ordered the wine.

When the bill came, the wine, Screaming Eagle, Oakville 2011, was $3,750 — not $37.50 as Lentini thought.

Lentini said he called the waitress over and explained the mix-up and that he would never have ordered a nearly $4,000 bottle of wine.

“I said the waitress told me [SIZE=inherit]it cost[/SIZE] ‘thirty-seven fifty,’ not ‘three-thousand, seven-hundred and fifty dollars,'” Lentini told NJ.com.

After a back and forth, the [SIZE=inherit]restaurant[/SIZE] said the best they could do was lower the price to $2,200 which several diners split, Lentini said.

And how was the wine after all that? “It was okay. It was good. It wasn’t great. It wasn’t terrible. It was fine,” Lentini told the [SIZE=inherit]paper[/SIZE].

Bottles of wine at Bobby Flay Steak start at $34 and go all the way up to $30,000 for an imperial six liter Chateau Petrus, Pomerol 1998.

The whole best thing was just to CYA for the waiteress. As I said the longer they leave this out there the worse they will look. PR 101 stop it early and decisively.

 

[Sinn Fein]

Here is a story which clarifies what the guy said he asked for, "something decent". Much different that what the waiter claims, "the best".

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — That’s really something to whine about!

Last week, Joe Lentini of Hazlet, New Jersey was dining at Bobby Flay Steak at the Borgata [SIZE=inherit]Hotel[/SIZE] and Casino in Atlantic City.

The host at a table of 10, told Lentini to choose a wine.

Lentini told NJ.com he asked the waitress to make a suggestion. “I asked the waitress if she could recommend something decent because I don’t have experience with wine,” Lentini told NJ.com. “She pointed to a bottle on the menu. I didn’t have my glasses. I asked how much and she said, ‘Thirty-seven fifty.'”

Everyone at the table agreed to the [SIZE=inherit]price[/SIZE] and ordered the wine.

When the bill came, the wine, Screaming Eagle, Oakville 2011, was $3,750 — not $37.50 as Lentini thought.

Lentini said he called the waitress over and explained the mix-up and that he would never have ordered a nearly $4,000 bottle of wine.

“I said the waitress told me [SIZE=inherit]it cost[/SIZE] ‘thirty-seven fifty,’ not ‘three-thousand, seven-hundred and fifty dollars,'” Lentini told NJ.com.

After a back and forth, the [SIZE=inherit]restaurant[/SIZE] said the best they could do was lower the price to $2,200 which several diners split, Lentini said.

And how was the wine after all that? “It was okay. It was good. It wasn’t great. It wasn’t terrible. It was fine,” Lentini told the [SIZE=inherit]paper[/SIZE].

Bottles of wine at Bobby Flay Steak start at $34 and go all the way up to $30,000 for an imperial six liter Chateau Petrus, Pomerol 1998.

How does it "clarify" - isn't it just ons version of the events, told by one side?

And where does personal accountability live in your world - do you often blame someone else when you make a mistake? I confess, I had you confused with a conservative, who would never blame others for their mistake...

 

[Sinn Fein]

I'm too frugal to have not known exactly what the wine cost before I agreed to it, but if I ask for a recommendation after saying I don't know much about wine and they suggest a $3k+ bottle, there's likely to be some sort of a scene at my table.

And Sinn, if thirty-seven fifty is $37.50 in our minds, then fifty is $50, not .50. You start before the decimal.

Thirty-seven fifty is before the decimal - shame on you for assuming there is a decimal in the price of a bottle of wine at an over-priced restaurant.

 

[Bucky86]

Page 7 until politics came into play? We're slipping.

 

[NCCommish]

I'm too frugal to have not known exactly what the wine cost before I agreed to it, but if I ask for a recommendation after saying I don't know much about wine and they suggest a $3k+ bottle, there's likely to be some sort of a scene at my table.

And Sinn, if thirty-seven fifty is $37.50 in our minds, then fifty is $50, not .50. You start before the decimal.

Thirty-seven fifty is before the decimal - shame on you for assuming there is a decimal in the price of a bottle of wine at an over-priced restaurant.

Gee for someone so hung up on personal responsibility you sure seem to be excusing everyone but the guy who couldn't read the menu and told the waitress he didn't know wines. Seems kind of hypocritical to excuse the people who had the motive.

 

[Sinn Fein]

I'm too frugal to have not known exactly what the wine cost before I agreed to it, but if I ask for a recommendation after saying I don't know much about wine and they suggest a $3k+ bottle, there's likely to be some sort of a scene at my table.

And Sinn, if thirty-seven fifty is $37.50 in our minds, then fifty is $50, not .50. You start before the decimal.

Thirty-seven fifty is before the decimal - shame on you for assuming there is a decimal in the price of a bottle of wine at an over-priced restaurant.

Gee for someone so hung up on personal responsibility you sure seem to be excusing everyone but the guy who couldn't read the menu and told the waitress he didn't know wines. Seems kind of hypocritical to excuse the people who had the motive.

Guy bought a bottle of wine - seems you should verify the price - that is there on the menu - before agreeing to it.

Certainly, it would be good customer relations to confirm the price with the customer before cracking open a $3750 bottle of wine - but ultimately the responsibility lies with the purchaser. The price was not hidden from him - he willfully chose not to inform himself. I have no sympathy in that situation.

 

[jon_mx]

I'm too frugal to have not known exactly what the wine cost before I agreed to it, but if I ask for a recommendation after saying I don't know much about wine and they suggest a $3k+ bottle, there's likely to be some sort of a scene at my table.

And Sinn, if thirty-seven fifty is $37.50 in our minds, then fifty is $50, not .50. You start before the decimal.

Thirty-seven fifty is before the decimal - shame on you for assuming there is a decimal in the price of a bottle of wine at an over-priced restaurant.

You assume the hundred, the others assume a decimal. The price was not articulated in a manner which one can discriminate what the waiter meant. . 99.99% of Americans who drink wine are more likely to order a $37.50 bottle of wine before a $3750 bottle of wine.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Flay should cook a tableside meal for the group who paid and their spouses. He and the Sommelier should have a brief wine tasting and educational session for the group. Pretty easy really to make this a positive.