jm192
Footballguy
I assume the market won’t be great coming off an ACL tear in January. Gallup staying in Dallas is probably a win for all parties.
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WR Amari Cooper, CLE (10 Viewers)
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Boston
Footballguy
Disagree to a point...he is still good WR, but I think it is fair to say that after 7 seasons he may not be what many of us thought he was gonna be which is why two teams are moving on from him by the age of 27 and in his prime.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I would think 23 to 26 is more prime for most WRs. I believe Cooper is still a good WR, but past his prime.
Boston
Footballguy
Not really what I said...I said two teams moved on from him while in his prime....I would also say 27 or 28 is still in their NFL prime...but the time when you need to start moving on in Dynasty.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
According to the links Faust just posted I agree with you. I said 23-26 and I couldn't be further off. It looks like late 20s is fine prime for elite WRs.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Best Prime Rib in the country is at "The Prime Rib' in Washington DC.Mmmmmmm...Prime rib
Chaka
Footballguy
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I don't know about that. I've had some crappy Prime Rib in my days. When it isn't good, it ruins a meal. After all, it is the centerpiece of the meal. I used to live near Washington DC and had the pleasure of eating at "The Prime Rib". A place close to where I live now is the "St. Paul Grill". Their Prime Rib is excellent. Although I don't know if it is always on the menu.Best Prime Rib in the country is the Prime Rib on my plate at any given moment.
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Chaka
Footballguy
Stinkin Ref
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SDJohnny
Footballguy
If you ever make it to San Francisco;PRIME RIB GOES HERE----->>>
https://www.houseofprimerib.net/
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Why is that? I've seen several of my favorite restaurants not always have Prime Rib on the menu. Some are good when they do and it's hit and miss other times. Now that doesn't apply to some place like "The Prime Rib". Absolutely the best Prime Rib I've ever had anywhere. I'm sure there are others, but that is my personal experience.
Hot take perhaps, but I think losing Cooper would be really bad for Lamb. Defenses were still treating Cooper as the #1 this season.
If Cooper hits FA, he's instantly one the best guys. I'd love to see him in Chicago.
ETA: Part of me wonders if he'd take a discount to play for a contender in a top offense, and look to cash in in 2023. He could certainly rehab his value on a team like, say, KC.
If Cooper hits FA, he's instantly one the best guys. I'd love to see him in Chicago.
ETA: Part of me wonders if he'd take a discount to play for a contender in a top offense, and look to cash in in 2023. He could certainly rehab his value on a team like, say, KC.
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While true, there’s no way Dallas can expect him to contribute much in 2022 coming off an ACL tear that late in the season. And this is a team supposedly in their win-now window.
My guess if they cut Cooper is they’d sign Gallup to a one year prove-it deal and spend a high pick on another WR.
Stinkin Ref
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lol...just seemed a little strange that a place called The Prime Rib would not have prime rib available when open....I get that at most other restaurants it is not a nightly offering....but it would kind of be like Buffalo Wild Wings not having wings available...
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I did make the statement ":Now that doesn't apply to some place like "The Prime Rib", so yes, there are places that don't have prime rib always on the menu, but "The Prime Rib" obviously isn't one of them. You read that incorrectly.
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Stinkin Ref
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King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Good post. I agree with the Lamb take unless they dedicate him to the slot. That is really where he needs to be in order to have the biggest FF impact.travdogg said:
Cooper to KC makes so much sense as they have needed someone to consistently step up as a third target and I think as long as healthy Cooper can probably handle that. Cap space would be the question.
Faust
MVP
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Go Lions!
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Baltimore would be a terrible landing spot. Not because I have Bateman on my fantasy team, but because Jackson isn't the best passer he could hook up with and they want to be primarily a running team. Not to mention Jackson's favorite target is Andrews and he has a lot of love for Brown it seems.
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Baltimore is the only team in the NFL that had two players in the top 10 in receiving targets in 2021.
I don't think they want to be a primarily running team anymore.
I do agree that Baltimore would be a terrible landing spot, but that's because it appears to me that they already have 3 viable pass catchers on their roster.
massraider
Footballguy
To the Browns for a 5th rounder.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Oof. Thoughts and prayers to Cooper dynasty owners.
Silver & Black
Footballguy
5th rounder?! Oof.
Dallas was going to cut him and everyone in the professional football world knew it. They were fortunate to get even this in return for him.
zamboni
Footballguy
Probably. At age 28, it’s hard to imagine his situation improving before the inevitable decline happens (if it hasn’t already).
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
THUD!!!
-That thud you heard was Amari Cooper's value as he fell thru the floor in Cleveland.
-That thud you heard was Amari Cooper's value as he fell thru the floor in Cleveland.
zamboni
Footballguy
I wouldn’t say through the roof, but likely down unless Mayfield improves. Plus it’s not out of the question that the Browns also don’t bring in another quality receiving option either via free agency or the draft.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Valid point about Cooper, but Landry's high volume days were pre Stefanski. Gonna need a bounce back in the scoring column for him to out produce his current value.
Sure they will bring in more WR's (through the draft, no FA) but I'm still not seeing this as some death blow.
As for Baker improving I'd say two things. A he was really hurt last year and B I'd ask people to remember re-examine Dak's passing production before Amair arrived.
Personally I found this move as status quo for Amari.
zamboni
Footballguy
Fair points - I see him as a low ceiling, high floor guy. Would be happy to have him as my WR3.
And that's a valid point I did consider on Landry pre-Stefanski but there were other issues at play and Stefanski did have strong WR production while OC of the Vikings.
My main point is Cooper has never been an overly high volume type of WR, more along the lines of solid 120-130 in 16 game range and I think that will continue.
