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So was Emmitt Smiths.He's exactly as advertised and showed at combine. Tons of moves, lateral agility, but long speed is average.Emmit Smith didn't have "breakaway speed."
Like I said a few days ago...everybody will be on this bandwagon after a few preseason games.
To clarify, I don't believe he's got significant deficiencies running the ball. What I do believe is he doesn't have all the attributes studs typically have. That means he'll tend to be somewhat of a role player.
What do you define as break-away speed? His measurables from the combine show him more "quick" than "fast" but very explosive.
Why did the Bengals shrink Gio's role?
lol that much better than that huh? It's obvious Gio couldn't hold up with that many touches. Something everybody should be considering when they value AA.
You're extrapolating things from my posts that aren't there. I didn't say he runs high. I said he's got mostly upright change of direction as opposed to lowering his body angle closer to the ground. As far as his balance, I wouldn't say it's special, but he looks to have good balance. I haven't seen evidence of him being a special receiver, but he could possibly develop further in that category.
Sure they will use him. You may be getting hung up on what I'm calling a lead back/bell cow/etc.
I can see him not being a bell cow. I get that.
So does he get higher when changing direction in your eyes? I mean, I guess I can agree that Ameer doesn't bend halfway over when he cuts, but I'm really struggling to see how that's a negative. If you're bent over while making a move, you're going to lose speed from the move, that's just how bodies work. You can't open up your legs as much and cover as much distance hunched over.
I replied to the wrong post earlier regarding this, but for the record, I don't believe Abdullah has stiff hips. It's far from a strength of his, though.So was Emmitt Smiths.He's exactly as advertised and showed at combine. Tons of moves, lateral agility, but long speed is average.Emmit Smith didn't have "breakaway speed."
Like I said a few days ago...everybody will be on this bandwagon after a few preseason games.
You don't need to be a track star to be a great NFL RB. Move the chains, catch the ball, block in pass protect.
Plenty of great NFL RB's with average breakaway speed.
STIFF HIPS FOR THE $$$$$$$
This has to stop. He is not Gio Bernard. He is not Jamaal Charles. This has to be looked at a per player basis. Some players are prone to injuries. Others are not. Ray Rice has a similar build. What did he do different?
I'm not overly concerned with his pass pro. My main league is a lot of Nebraska homers so I know he will go too high for my tastes. I'm looking for Bell to be overlooked and be value later in redrafts. I still have concerns about AA's fumbles. He's a great kid and I think he is a special talent that has landed in the right place to be an impact player (as in football, not necessarily the difference maker in an FF squad). But if he starts putting the ball on the ground, it'll limit his chances to put up FF points.
Forget the word high. Think upright when changing direction (as opposed to using body lean). If he had looser hips & used more body lean he could explode off cuts & avoid defenders better in traffic.
I don't mean hunched over at the waist. Body lean = \.
I'm still chuckling a bit at the supposed difference between "high" and "upright" (if you "run high" it's because you have an "upright" stance), but I guess we have to agree to disagree, because I don't see any of what your saying.Forget the word high. Think upright when changing direction (as opposed to using body lean). If he had looser hips & used more body lean he could explode off cuts better in traffic.
That's not to say Abdullah doesn't have a great juke in space when he's got time to set it up. Two very different things. I'm not saying he can't make you miss in traffic, though (he can). It's just a critique.
LOL. You can be upright without being high. He basically doesn't use body lean. I guess that's the easiest way to look at it. I've tried to explain it the best I can.I'm still chuckling a bit at the supposed difference between "high" and "upright" (if you "run high" it's because you have an "upright" stance), but I guess we have to agree to disagree, because I don't see any of what your saying.Forget the word high. Think upright when changing direction (as opposed to using body lean). If he had looser hips & used more body lean he could explode off cuts better in traffic.
That's not to say Abdullah doesn't have a great juke in space when he's got time to set it up. Two very different things. I'm not saying he can't make you miss in traffic, though (he can). It's just a critique.
It's not a running style, but a critique about change of direction.
Some of the other rook RBs and veteran feature backs also, if you wanted someone like Tevin Coleman then having AA get so much favorable press is huge get for you. Not saying I don't like AA, but he's probably going to get seriously overbought in Labor Day timeframe drafts.
That was against St. Louis, but the big difference was that Johnson used his speed to score on the play.
Absolutely, think Saints backfield. Bell is Ingram and AA is Spiller.
That's about what I expected. "he can't hold up". Then when faced with players with the same height and build who have career level carries, "lol no."
This is pretty much mirrors my thinking in the dynasty leagues I own him.Milkman said:
Ray Rice proved the point. He was overused as a small back, and was physically washed up and useless on the field by 26. His overzealous usage, plus overzealous contract likely served as a warning to GM's and coaches tempted to use a small back this way.cmv5 said:
I agree about the first cut but I was pretty darned impressed with the quick shift he did to avoid his own lineman almost immediately after that. That was a tight space.jurb26 said:I don't know who takes that run for 45 yds like Ameer did. I think 90% of the backs in the NFL make that guy at the LOS miss, though. That was a lot of space to work with and that guy was clearly playing the edge, meaning he wasn't getting beat outside. Ameer made it look easier to juke him than 90% of the backs in the NFL, though. The run does nothing to help me personally feel better about him. I want to see him run in tight spaces, not country mile spaces. I expect Ameer to make those kinds of plays in space.montana_grizzly_bears said:The fact that he is making moves when I see nothing of the sort from Riddick. You have to step back and ask yourself, Could Riddick of made that 45 yard run or would he have been tackled behind the line?BigSteelThrill said:montana_grizzly_bears said:
A complete time split between him and Riddick right now. Both playing. 7 and 8 carries (Theo/Ameer).
3.66 outside of the 45 yarder for Ameer. Not discounting it (9.6 is awesome), but I think it plays to his super small size. Theo at 4.4.
Jamaal has tremendous vision, gets low is more flexible in the hips (yeah here we go) and wins in tight spaces. We've seen him do it for several years. It's amazing how much leverage Charles is able to play with given his size. It's not safe to assume this will be the case for Ameer, or any smaller RB for that matter.
