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On Friday, July 08, 2016 at 5:14 PM, Biabreakable said:

Here are the offensive snaps for the 3 main Detroit RB in 2015

Abdullah 355 offensive snaps 32.9%

Wk 1 L @ SD 21 snaps 45% 7 rushing attempts 50 yards 1 TD 4 targets 4 receptions 44 yards
Wk 2 L @ MIN 31 snaps 40% 6 rushing attempts 9 yards 1 target 1 reception 9 yards
Wk 3 L DEN 34 snaps 46% 8 rushing attempts 23 yards 5 targets 2 receptions 19 yards 1TD
Wk 4 L @ SEA 30 snaps 54% 13 rushing attempts 33 yards 5 targets 2 receptions 11 yards
Wk 5 L ARI 15 snaps 16% 6 rushing attempts 16 yards 2 targets 1 reception 9 yards
Wk 6 W CHI 35 snaps 43% 14 rushing attempts 48 yards 4 targets 3 receptions 21 yards
Wk 7 L MIN 12 snaps 22% 8 rushing attempts 43 yards 
Wk 8  L KC 5  snaps 8% 1 rushing attempt 3 yards 2 targets 0 receptions
Wk 9 BYE
Wk 10 W @ GB 12 snaps 18% 5 rushing attempts 15 yards 1 target 1 reception 7 yards
Wk 11 W OAK 25 snaps 35% 12 rushing attempts 44 yards 2 targets 1 reception 2 yards
Wk 12 W PHI 28 snaps 39% 16 rushing attempts 63 yards 2 targets 1 reception 12 yards
Wk 13 L GB 20 snaps 31% 13 rushing attempts 67 yards 1 target 0 receptions
Wk 14 L STL 19 snaps 27% 7 rushing attempts 23 yards 2 targets 2 receptions 21 yards
Wk 15 W @NO 22 snaps 42% 9 rushing attempts 77 yards 1 TD 2 targets 2 receptions 12 yards
Wk 16 W SF 20 snaps 28% 8 rushing attempts 39 yards 4 targets 4 receptions 9 yards
Wk 17 W @ CHI 26 snaps 40% 10 rushing attempts 44 yards 1 target 1 reception 7 yards

What I see here is that the Lions used Ameer more at the beginning of the season than they did later on in the season. 

The Lions schedule at the beginning of last year was pretty difficult.with MIN, DEN, SEA, ARI and no surprise he struggled against these defenses. He had 2 games in a row where he was targeted 5 times against SEA and ARI but he only caught 2 of those 5 targets. That is not getting it done. He does rebound a bit against Chicago in week 6 but he seems to get phased out in the next 2 weeks before the bye. 

Riddick 470 offensive snaps 43.6%

Wk 1 8 17%
Wk 2 35 45%
Wk 3 15 20%
Wk 4 21 38%
Wk 5 52 55%
Wk 6 42 52%
Wk 7 30 56%
Wk 8 39 65%
Wk 9 BYE
Wk 10 17 26%
Wk 11 36 50%
Wk 12 26 36%
Wk 13 34 52%
Wk 14 37 52%
Wk 15 13 25%
Wk 16 34 48%
Wk 17 31 48%

Riddick is playing more than Ameer pretty much every week after week 5. The Lions pass the ball a lot and RIddick is much more efficient as a receiver. So while I would expect Ameer to improve this season, I don't think he is taking snaps away from Riddick.

Bell 243 offensive snaps 22.5%

Wk 1 18 38%
Wk 2 18 23%
Wk 3 25 34%
Wk 4 0
Wk 5 0
Wk 6 0
Wk 7 12 22%
Wk 8 17 28%
Wk 9 BYE
Wk 10 39 60%
Wk 11 13 18%
Wk 12 17 24%
Wk 13 14 22%
Wk 14 17 24%
Wk 15 21 40%
Wk 16 20 28%
Wk 17 12 18%

Ameer could pick up more snaps if a 3rd RB isn't used as much and that will help his numbers if it more of a 50.50 split between him and RIddick.

If the Lions are committed to a 3 RBBC like this it limits Ameers opportunity further, especially if another RB such as Zenner gets goal line opportunities.

I still think Ameer is a buy, but there are things that can keep him from putting up numbers I think he is capable of.

eta - after the bye week Ameer is used more when the Lions are winning and when they face a soft defense.

Nice post. What you are not mentioning is that Ameer was fumbling away his use % and wasn't being fully trusted in his rookie year. Throw in the fact that a proven sure handed back in Joique Bell was around and now he's not which bodes well for Abdullah. He showed flashes last season and may be a lottery ticket at his ADP. It's a risk though but they all are there or have low ceilings.

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4 hours ago, Futz said:

Nice post. What you are not mentioning is that Ameer was fumbling away his use % and wasn't being fully trusted in his rookie year. Throw in the fact that a proven sure handed back in Joique Bell was around and now he's not which bodes well for Abdullah. He showed flashes last season and may be a lottery ticket at his ADP. It's a risk though but they all are there or have low ceilings.

I would say it's probably a wash for him.  They added Ridley who is the same kind of sure handed dozer types.

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24 minutes ago, ldizzle said:

Word is they are gonna give more carries to riddick. He's gonna be a great value in ppr

MLive's Justin Rogers believes it is "unreasonable" to expect a lot more carries for Theo Riddick.
Riddick made his bones in the passing game last season, recording 80 receptions for 697 yards and three scores, but he was only given 43 touches in the running game. Even with significant questions at running back, it does not sound like the Lions will give him a ton more work on the ground. Riddick is still in the FLEX mix in PPR formats because of his involvement in the passing game. Jul 25 - 12:31 PM
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Abdullah averaged 4.7 YPC the second half of the season. Compare that to your other flavors of the month.

 

The guy has the juice and can easily be utilized like Jamaal Charles. He just needs to get better at reading his blocking.

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5 hours ago, cockroach said:

I would say it's probably a wash for him.  They added Ridley who is the same kind of sure handed dozer types.

Ridley is also a fumbler and coming off of injury. He might not make the team.

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7 hours ago, Eminence said:

Abdullah averaged 4.7 YPC the second half of the season. Compare that to your other flavors of the month.

 

The guy has the juice and can easily be utilized like Jamaal Charles. He just needs to get better at reading his blocking.

Given that vision was a key positive of his coming out of college, I'm going to blame the perpetually woeful Detroit OL rather than Abdullah. But hopefully all of the draft picks they've thrown at OL pay off this year.

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27 minutes ago, need2know said:

Would you guys feel comfortable with Abdullah as your rb2 of you were well stacked at other positions?

Probably not. There just seems to be so much uncertainty with the run game in Detroit. Knowing that the coaches are saying they don't need a 1,000yd rusher does not help. Plus, you have Theo Riddick there to take away some of his pass catching and Zenner as more of the short yardage guy. I don't know where that leaves Abdullah. He seems to have the talent to be successful, I'm just not sure Detroit is a great fit for that. I would be fine with him as my RB3 or RB4. I just don't think I could trust him to be in my lineup every week, at least going off of what we know as of today.

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16 hours ago, Eminence said:
MLive's Justin Rogers believes it is "unreasonable" to expect a lot more carries for Theo Riddick.
Riddick made his bones in the passing game last season, recording 80 receptions for 697 yards and three scores, but he was only given 43 touches in the running game. Even with significant questions at running back, it does not sound like the Lions will give him a ton more work on the ground. Riddick is still in the FLEX mix in PPR formats because of his involvement in the passing game. Jul 25 - 12:31 PM
Source: MLive.com

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/nfl/lions/2016/08/01/lions-running-backs-fantasy-football/87906310/

 

this article it says he will be heavily involved in the running game

"Riddick primarily has been used as a receiver throughout his career, with just 72 carries in three seasons. But the Lions insist that he’ll factor more heavily in the run game this fall."

 

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27 minutes ago, ldizzle said:

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/nfl/lions/2016/08/01/lions-running-backs-fantasy-football/87906310/

 

this article it says he will be heavily involved in the running game

"Riddick primarily has been used as a receiver throughout his career, with just 72 carries in three seasons. But the Lions insist that he’ll factor more heavily in the run game this fall."

 

More heavily <> Heavily.

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2 hours ago, need2know said:

Would you guys feel comfortable with Abdullah as your rb2 if you were well stacked at other positions?

I continue to think of him as high upside. I'm fine with him as a RB2. I think it's a good strategy to get 3 or 4 guys who have high upside and hope for the best. If I followed that strategy, I'd rather have Abdullah in the late 5th or early 6th to lead that committee than Gio/Duke in the 6th/7th. But if I did, I'd be sure to get a Baltimore guy, a Seattle guy, and some other swing for the fences plays to increase my odds.

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5 hours ago, need2know said:

Would you guys feel comfortable with Abdullah as your rb2 if you were well stacked at other positions?

If it's a PPR and I'm stacked at WR then I'm perfectly fine with him as my RB2.  I'd be just fine with him and Duke Johnson or Dion Lewis.

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Ameer Abdullah said he wants to be a more well-rounded back as a sophomore.

 

"Blocking, being the guy you can keep in the game with that," Abdullah said. "Being the guy who can get that third-and-1. Being the guy who can break that long run. Being that guy who can catch the ball out of the backfield. Be the guy you can count on in any situation." It is a great goal for the sophomore, but one he is unlikely to achieve with the Lions seemingly intent on using a committee. Even so, Abdullah should be the clear lead in the backfield and better his 168 touches from a year ago.
 
 
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Ameer Abdullah expects to get the majority of carries this season.

 

"Obviously, all of us wants to get carries," he said. "I’m hoping and expecting to get the bulk." Abdullah is the clear starter with Joique Bell gone, but is going to lose snaps to Theo Riddick in all passing situations. Zach Zenner and Dwayne Washington are candidates to cut into Abdullah's short-yardage work.
 
 
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Not surprising to see his production ramp up with Riddick out. Riddick has really been a thorn in his side from a fantasy standpoint.

 

Nice TD catch in the game today:

 

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000000700463/Matthew-Stafford-finds-Ameer-Abdullah-for-11-yard-TD

 

He looks like a slot WR when he's running routes. Hope to see more of it.

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11 minutes ago, EBF said:

Not surprising to see his production ramp up with Riddick out. Riddick has really been a thorn in his side from a fantasy standpoint.

 

Nice TD catch in the game today:

 

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000000700463/Matthew-Stafford-finds-Ameer-Abdullah-for-11-yard-TD

 

He looks like a slot WR when he's running routes. Hope to see more of it.

Did Riddick get hurt through the game?  He was having a nice 1st quarter from what I saw.

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Just now, mcintyre1 said:

Jogged off to the locker room, haven't heard an update but I'm only watching red zone.

Riddick seems like he'll be OK.

The problem with Abdullah is volume and fumbling. He has real small hands so hopefully he can correct the fumbling issue. He has excellent vision though, great athlete, catches the ball well. I think the volume will be there this year, with Riddick or not.

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Ameer Abdullah rushed 12 times for 63 yards and caught 5-of-5 targets for 57 yards and a touchdown in the Lions' Week 1 win over the Colts.

 

The Colts' slow-footed linebackers had no answers for Abdullah, who did work in the middle of the field. His touchdown catch occurred just after Theo Riddick exited the game with what was feared to be a concussion, although Riddick did return. Abdullah is a dynamic back whose role is still concerning because Riddick hogs so much passing-game usage and Dwayne Washington has emerged as the Lions' goal-line specialist. Abdullah gets another plus draw in Week 2 versus Tennessee, but he remains more of an RB2/flex than the borderline RB1 he produced as against the Colts' barely-there defense.
 
 
 

 

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Abdullah left wk2 w a "foot" injury, did not return. 

Anybody have any additional info here?  I always hate the quiet "foot" injury label. More often than not this ends up a lis franc or "mid foot" sprain that kills a guys season. 

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I posted too early...

 

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports Ameer Abdullah (foot) is in a walking boot and has a "noticeable limp."

Abdullah rushed for 38 yards on six carries before he left. Theo Riddick and Dwayne Washington are the next men up in Detroit's backfield, and it sounds like Abdullah is questionable at best for Week 3 against the Packers. The Lions would likely give Riddick a chance on early downs if Abdullah misses, with Washington handling any goal-line work. Zach Zenner would be active as the No. 3.
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In a walking boot with a limp after the game. Damn shame too because so far this season he is looking like a monster:

 

https://twitter.com/247NFL_News/status/777571324193562624

https://twitter.com/WildThingFB/status/777668715030597632

https://twitter.com/JoshNorris/status/775790047954075648

 

I don't know what this injury could be, and what the timetable for return might look like. Sprained foot? Broken foot? High ankle sprain? Guess we will know soon.

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1 hour ago, Milkman said:

There's a chance Dwayne Washington doesn't let him have his job back. He's been flashing big time all preseason. All he needs is opportunity and he might surprise a lot of people. 

Abdullah was playing great up until the injury. I dont see this happening. 

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Ameer Abdullah (foot) will head to North Carolina Tuesday to meet with Dr. Robert Anderson.

Anderson is probably the most well-known foot specialist in the field of sports medicine. If Abdullah's left foot injury is severe enough to require his assistance, it's probably not a good sign. Theo Riddick and Dwayne Washington will lead the backfield in his likely absence
 
 
sounds like we might be hearing from our friend Liz Frank
 
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1 minute ago, eoMMan said:

No IR spots?

Nope, short benches too.

I have ingram, l. Murray, ware, gio, and abdullah so I have some depth

Hate to dump abdullah though. Had high hopes but this doesn't sound good

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4 minutes ago, Phoenix212 said:

So a Lis Frank is not a "break" per se, correct?  More of a displaced bone?  Wouldn't that have turned up on the x-ray or is it more likely that it did show up and now they want Dr. Anderson to confirm?

I think lis francs don't show up on X-ray, IIRC, that would be terrible news if that's what it is. Heck they may not even call it that publicly. Worse thing is the no man's land where they don't firmly diagnose what's going on.

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1 hour ago, need2know said:

So in redraft are people holding?  I am leaning towards dropping for other needs.  This sounds bad

Holding, but then again, I don't play in leagues with short benches.

Just now, Warhogs said:

Is Lis Franc just speculation or reported speculation.  I didn't dig hard but the few articles I saw yesterday just called the injury a sprained foot.  

Pure SP speculation. Doesn't mean it is wrong, but it is definitely not being reported anywhere.

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