El Floppo
Footballguy
That happened? Was wondering how he'd fit in with all the signings. Barely got a run even before the signings. Ross and Graelish is going to make some of us a little tingly.
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B Maverick
Footballguy
I feel bad for Tottenham (but not Jose)
9/17 Europa
9/20 EPL (southampton)
9/24 Europa
9/27 EPL (Newcastle)
9/29 League Cup (Chelsea)
10/1 Europa
10/4 EPL (United)
7 games in 17 days
9/17 Europa
9/20 EPL (southampton)
9/24 Europa
9/27 EPL (Newcastle)
9/29 League Cup (Chelsea)
10/1 Europa
10/4 EPL (United)
7 games in 17 days
Lets not count those chickens just yet...
There is still a 1-game playoff to get into Europa that takes place tomorrow.
As for Jose, he is a kinder, gentler version of his former self. He won't turn into the grinch until next season....
B Maverick
Footballguy
Ah - I skimmed the post, and assumed it was future fixtures....
Just ment thats a lot of games in a short period of time. Wasn't counting anything.
Mea culpa
Chelsea match was really just a B squad + Dier/Lloris. The win was pure bonus.
Jose obviously wanted to win, but he wants to win tomorrow more - so you can see the irony forming already....
Son could be back on the bench on Sunday, but Bale won't be back until after the international break.
Speaking of the International break - Kane, potentially faces an additional 3 games on that schedule, as the European idiots have schedule 3 games over this break.
Jose obviously wanted to win, but he wants to win tomorrow more - so you can see the irony forming already....
Son could be back on the bench on Sunday, but Bale won't be back until after the international break.
Speaking of the International break - Kane, potentially faces an additional 3 games on that schedule, as the European idiots have schedule 3 games over this break.
B Maverick
Footballguy
Jose is ready to go full Jose, win or especially if he loses any of the next two.
And he's already asked all the international coaches to not pick any of his players over this break.
I heard this morning Son would be out awhile?
Son should be back on the bench on Sunday - but won't start, and won't play unless the game is close late.
He has already said - today - he has not spoken with any of the international coaches, but does hope they understand the overuse issue.
Kane is England's captain - he is always going to be picked, and will probably play 2 of the 3 games.
I assume Bale will also be picked, and he could actually use the minutes.
DJackson10
Footballguy
The sad thing is the handball on Spurs was called exactly how the rule of law is suppose to be.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Poke_4_Life
Footballguy
Actually saw today that the Wales coach agreed to let him stay at Tottenham so he can potentially be fit at the end of this international window.
Looks like Spurs finally got their back-up striker for Kane: Carlos Vinicius from Benfica, loan with an option.
Poke_4_Life
Footballguy
I was watching for that one all day. Nice pickup IMO.
Would still like a few to leave and to add the CB, Skirrrinininr.
Joshua Kimmich was named UEFA 2019-2020 best defender. And he's been absolutely terrific as a midfielder as well.
And Thomas Mueller has just won his 27th trophy, most in German history.
I'm not a Bayern fan, but I am a massive German national team fan and these are probably my two favorite players of the 21st century (honorably mention to Polish born Klose and Podolski). Very likely Kimmich will finish just behind Lothar Matthaus as my favorite German player ever.
And Thomas Mueller has just won his 27th trophy, most in German history.
I'm not a Bayern fan, but I am a massive German national team fan and these are probably my two favorite players of the 21st century (honorably mention to Polish born Klose and Podolski). Very likely Kimmich will finish just behind Lothar Matthaus as my favorite German player ever.
Looks like a few tasty match-up already:CL draw today
Juve - Barca
Bayern - Atletico
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Is it a thing now to refer to PSG as "Paris" - like in this graphic? Because I've been seeing that the past year or so and it really messes with my OCD. There are presumably a ton of soccer clubs in Paris, and this one is named Paris Saint-Germaine. I remember a club named "Racing Paris" but haven't seen much from them for years. There is a well-known naming convention for the two big Milan clubs, but I've never heard of PSG being called "Paris" until about a year ago. This seems like referring to a club as "Madrid" or "Manchester." This really pisses me off!
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Just curious what you like? I'm not a huge fan of the style. I will say that people usually gave SAF too much credit for his style - it really wasn't always great. He had great players, was a really good tactician and a great motivator. I'm not expecting Ole to turn in to Klopp or Pep overnight but something is lacking. And then you get to the lack of passion/motivation, how often they play down to the level of the opponent or wait until they are behind to show up. I'm not convinced those issues would be completely fixed with more depth and some more quality.
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AAABatteries
Footballguy
Full drawCL draw today
Group A: Bayern Munich, Atletico Madrid, FC Salzburg, Lokomotiv Moscow
Group B: Real Madrid, Shakhtar Donetsk, Inter Milan, Borussia Monchengladbach
Group C - FC Porto, Manchester City, Olympiakos, Marseille
Group D - Liverpool, Ajax, Atalanta, FC Midtjylland
Group E: Sevilla FC, Chelsea, Krasnodar, Rennes
Group F: Zenit St Petersburg, Borussia Dortmund, Lazio, Club Brugge
Group G: Juventus, Barcelona, Dynamo Kiev, Ferencvaros
Group H: PSG, Manchester United, RB Leipzig, Istanbul Basaksehir
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Desert_Power
Footballguy
B Maverick
Footballguy
I agree with most of this. SAF definitely gets remembered more fondly then he really was (although most is deserved). I am not sure SAF had tactics but he was probably the greatest motivator and knew how to deal with each player. Something most of today's managers lack. Which is why his last team won going away and Moyes could only must 7th with pretty much the same team.
Most of what I am happy with in regards to Ole is how he's moved out or dropped players. Fellaini, Sanchez, Smalling, Young all had to go. Once he got a true #10, we stopped seeing Lingard and Pereira* and the team's play improved. Both of them can go too with Jones and Rojo following. Gave Martial back is #9 and made him the striker. Moved Rashford to the left so he can play in more space. Elevated Greenwood slowly and properly. AWB and McGuire improved the D from 11th to 3rd, 1 goal off 2nd.
Those he has brought in are there for a reason, fit in a role and as part of the team. Not looking for galacticos. This is why I think he may be a better Director of Football then a coach.
However, when United actually plays with passion, pace and movement its as good as any and fun to watch. We saw that up until they beat PSG. We saw that after Bruno came in and then after the restart. We see that in the derby and vs Chelsea. But for whatever reason, it doesn't happen every game and its not always for a full 90. But if you don't have the players to push for spots, then there isn't much you can change.
The problem in my mind, is if some part of the game plan isn't working or someone is having an off day (or needs a day off), there was no one there to put in to change it. McT and Fred are solid rotational squad guys with high ceilings, but are they game changers? With VdB you have someone that can come on for Pogba or Bruno and you don't lose much if anything in your play. Sancho would bring that to the attackers. Imagine starting with three of Rashford, Martial, Sancho, Greenwood and you need a change (injury, bad day, etc)? Bring on the one not on. If you need a goal, imagine taking off a defender and putting in Sancho w/ Rashford, Martial, Greenwood, Bruno, Pogba.....
If Bailly is fit he is their best CB and can pair with McGuire and maybe you don't need to spend there. His pace may allow more players getting forward since he can cover more ground in the back. If fitness is an issue with him you need to get a replacement.
So yes, keep me in the "back your manager" camp. In a lot of the games I actually felt like United could score and could score late to win. Although some games I feel they will give up the equalizer (BHA last weekend for sure was coming), overall I like watching again. Something that was lost with Jose's teams.
If the board backs Ole and this continues, then yes i'll join the Ole out brigade.
* I believe Pereirra has left on loan with an option to buy.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
gianmarco
Footballguy
San Diego walks off field after alleged homophobic slur.
Good for them. Gave up a playoff spot in doing so also.
Good for them. Gave up a playoff spot in doing so also.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Had to look up Ferencvaros' history today. Interesting that two of the teams they get in a group for their first CL are ones they have faced in older European tournament finals ~50 years ago.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Shocking nobody, Koeman appears to have a better tactical imagination than me. It's been a very interesting lineup so far. It is essentially a 4-2-3-1 with Messi as the 9, but just roaming around. Greizman deployed wide right, but often making the central runs to occupy defenders (similar to how Juve used Maduzkic a few years back). Coutinho as a traditional #10 playing very well. The fluidity in attack is very entertaining and all 4 of these players are actually pressing, but we'll see what happens when comes up against a team that can defend deep and organized for 90 minutes. These players are all getting into the box, but none have the physicality you often need to get goals in that situation.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Here is a subtitled video of Landon arguing with ref and with Schantz. I don't blame the ref here as he is in a bad spot if he didn't hear nor understand the term.
I don't think Schantz comes off well at all. It is almost like he is saying "this is a part of the game".
https://twitter.com/caitlinmurr/status/1311696338048954368?s=20
The Phoenix player has totally denied saying it, FWIW.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Was trying to @ you when iI read that this morning...but couldn't spell your name right.
That video andy linked is not a good look for your coach.
Poke_4_Life
Footballguy
So... who are these teams? 
charvik
Footballguy
El Floppo
Footballguy
Watching that doc series gave me some good foundation for liking them. Even more than sunderland.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
There is little chance Ben Olsen survives the weekend as DC's coach. The team is bad enough, but when you sub in a player that was not even on the match day roster, you have lost the entire plot as a manager.
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El Floppo
Footballguy
gianmarco
Footballguy
Apparently Napoli was on the plane to travel and got grounded by the local health authorities. Matches get postponed if they have 4 positive tests. Napoli only had 2. So, they could have otherwise shown up and played but for the health department. As a result, Serie A decided to force them to forfeit.
Classic Serie A.
