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This is a terribly wrong myth I wish people would keep repeating. He was the OC for 5 years in Pittsburgh. One year he used him. The other 4 years he did not. This is not using your TE, this is a

This doesn't happen very often.  Good on you for owning up to it and apologizing.  We need more of this and less defending/arguing when we are wrong.  

Considering that Ebron sucks,  I'd take Howard. 

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Bucs head coach Bruce Arians said O.J. Howard (Achilles) should be ready to participate in the team's offseason program. 

Arians said Howard hasn't suffered any setbacks in his recovery from an Achilles injury he sustained in Week 5. Howard functioned as Tampa's primary pass-catching tight end before his injury, catching 11 of 19 targets for 146 yards and two touchdowns in four games last year. He saw more targets and produced more receptions, yardage, and touchdowns than Rob Gronkowski. “What a huge addition to have him back because he was having a great year,” Arians said. “I think, again, the sky’s the limit for what he can do in this offense.” Howard, 26, could retake the role Cameron Brate took over near the end of the 2020 season. 

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Cameron Brate

, Rob Gronkowski

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Mar 31, 2021, 11:32 AM ET

 

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Bucs coach Bruce Arians expects TE O.J. Howard (Achilles) to be ready for training camp. 

“Yeah, he’s really close now,” Arians said. “He looks fantastic working out every day.” Headed into his age-27 campaign, Howard went down last Week 5. Arians has spent much of the offseason talking up his tight end's recovery. Howard was catching a non-trivial amount of passes from Tom Brady before his injury, but Rob Gronkowski has been re-signed while Cameron Brate remains. His road to fantasy value is long in the Bucs' crowded offense. The No. 19 overall pick of the 2017 draft will be playing for a new deal in 2021. 

SOURCE: Profootballtalk on NBCSports.com 

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On 3/31/2021 at 8:58 AM, Ministry of Pain said:

60-997-11TD

That's what Howard did his 1st 2 years in the NFL. 

45-605-3TD

That's what Howard did his last 2 years in the NFL. 

Dirk Koetter features the TE.  Arians doesn't. 

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...but is this the year to buy? There's only reasons to expect him to underwhelm in 2021, but he's a free agent in 2022.

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8 hours ago, Grahamburn said:

Dirk Koetter features the TE.  Arians doesn't. 

That's an excellent point and makes me wonder why someone doesn't TRADE FOR OJ Howard, i think the guy has a lot of god given talent and would like to see him paired with a coach that understand better how to exploit what he can do. 

Just my feelings, big fan of the guy and i know he has shortcomings as well. 

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1 hour ago, Twenty-Four Eighty-Four said:

In 4 games last year (I can only imagine it was closer to the 3 depending on when he got hurt) he had 19 targets, 11 catches, 146 yards, 2 TDs. Looked decent with Brady.

Does that kind of work out to 55-750-10 over 16-17 weeks?

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7 hours ago, Ministry of Pain said:

That's an excellent point and makes me wonder why someone doesn't TRADE FOR OJ Howard, i think the guy has a lot of god given talent and would like to see him paired with a coach that understand better how to exploit what he can do. 

Just my feelings, big fan of the guy and i know he has shortcomings as well. 

I'm guessing it's because the bucs would need to trade him away and they don't seem to want to do so. 

It sucks for those of us with him on our teams, but even if he isn't one of their top targets, he'll be involved as a blocking TE. that's one of his strengths, so while his value may not show on the stat sheet, the bucs are an even better team when he plays. 

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8 hours ago, Ministry of Pain said:

Does that kind of work out to 55-750-10 over 16-17 weeks?

O.J. Howard and I have the same number of 600 yard seasons. To his credit, his career high in targets is 53 more than me.

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1 hour ago, -OZ- said:

I'm guessing it's because the bucs would need to trade him away and they don't seem to want to do so. 

It sucks for those of us with him on our teams, but even if he isn't one of their top targets, he'll be involved as a blocking TE. that's one of his strengths, so while his value may not show on the stat sheet, the bucs are an even better team when he plays. 

OJ and Gronk on the field at the same time in 12 or 13 personnel is a nightmare for defenses. 
 

OJs second season under Koetter was very solid on a per game basis. If he went to a team that featured him as a receiver he would excel if he could stay healthy. 

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2 hours ago, Grahamburn said:

OJ and Gronk on the field at the same time in 12 or 13 personnel is a nightmare for defenses. 
 

OJs second season under Koetter was very solid on a per game basis. If he went to a team that featured him as a receiver he would excel if he could stay healthy. 

OJ, gronk and Evans would be really tough to cover. And that doesn't include Godwin or brown. 

Brady is set up to have his best season ever (statistically).

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1 hour ago, JohnnyU said:

He's the epitome of a bust when comparing his hype to production.  I hope Pitts doesn't have a similar fate.

For fantasy only, ok. Really though, OJ hasn't been a bust for the bucs. 

 Pitts is hyped a LOT more than OJ was. the primary concern with Howard at the time was lack of stats while at Alabama.  Much of that lack of stats was due to his blocking ability. 

https://bucswire.usatoday.com/2020/01/16/this-o-j-howard-stat-proves-he-was-an-effective-tight-end-this-year/

according to ESPN, Howard did a great job in one particular area this year. In their 2019 advanced statistics awards, ESPN said that according to the stats, Howard was the league’s best pass-blocking tight end.

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2 minutes ago, -OZ- said:

For fantasy only, ok. Really though, OJ hasn't been a bust for the bucs. 

 Pitts is hyped a LOT more than OJ was. the primary concern with Howard at the time was lack of stats while at Alabama.  Much of that lack of stats was due to his blocking ability. 

https://bucswire.usatoday.com/2020/01/16/this-o-j-howard-stat-proves-he-was-an-effective-tight-end-this-year/

according to ESPN, Howard did a great job in one particular area this year. In their 2019 advanced statistics awards, ESPN said that according to the stats, Howard was the league’s best pass-blocking tight end.

:shrug:

His pass blocking won't help a fantasy team.  400 to 500 yards and 5 or 6 TDs earlier in his career isn't horrible, but he had 1 TD in 2019 and just over 400 yards.  Last year doesn't really count given he only played 4 games, but still, nothing exciting from Howard IMO.  I agree that Pitts is hyped a lot more than Howard, but I do distinctly remember Howard getting a lot of hype in fantasy circles when he was drafted.

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6 minutes ago, JohnnyU said:

His pass blocking won't help a fantasy team.  400 to 500 yards and 5 or 6 TDs earlier in his career isn't horrible, but he had 1 TD in 2019 and just over 400 yards.  Last year doesn't really count given he only played 4 games, but still, nothing exciting from Howard IMO.  I agree that Pitts is hyped a lot more than Howard, but I do distinctly remember Howard getting a lot of hype in fantasy circles when he was drafted.

We'll agree that so far he has under performed many expectations in fantasy, including mine.  

Being a great blocking TE does tend to keep you on the field which can give opportunities. But with the other receiving options, we shouldn't expect much from OJ this year.  

Part of my point here is regarding those who wonder why teams don't trade for him. I'm pretty sure it's not a lack of interest from others, they're going to protect Brady.

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