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Gotta admit he looked the part in the pro day I watched....huge build/arm, sounded like a great personality, hard worker.....very unfair to compare him to Hack but I just cant help but see the comparison.....im hoping for Rosen (dont think Darnold will be there) but if they miss out on him I could live with either Mayfield (who has own "short" comings) or Allen....just gotta hope it turns out better.
I've had this feeling for several weeks that we're getting Allen. Maybe it's just indigestion. I prefer Rosen, but I won't cry if it's Allen. I think he's got talent. It's the completion percentage that's a major concern. A serious concern.
I am settling on Rosen as my realistic favorite (I just assume Darnold will be gone), but while the injuries scare me, it is not his body, but his brain. I don't like a guy at 21-22 getting two concussions in one year. It's not like we have an incredible line, so he is going to get hit, and hit often. I can see this being a situation where he plays well, but is out a ton due to concussions.NYRAGE said:
This may not be the thread for this, but since it was this post that got my thinking about it, I'll leave it here.
While there’s nothing wrong with taking a look, I have doubts Rawls even makes the team. His injuries really took their toll.
True although they can still grab a good one in the early third. It will be curious to see if they drop down a few spots for another pick. Good rbs can still be had in the early third unless they plan on going with a position like TE.
They could possibly trade Powell for a mid to late-round pick as well, which of course would open a further hole at RB but with Powell being 30, they may opt to get younger at the position. Rawls is worth a flier but it's likely he doesn't end up making the team but Crowell, McGuire and a couple of rookies should be adequate - there's a ton of decent vets still out there as well.NYRAGE said:
It sure seems they are not high on Powell.....if he is traded it would likely be for a late rd pick to shed the contract
He had a good season in 2016. Not sure what happened last year other than the Cook signing.
Decent move. We lost some picks, so better to see what we can get in FA/WW (especially at TE) and punt in the draft on the position for 2018. I've been a little concerned we have too many needs and not enough impact/high picks since moving up.
This may be splitting hairs, but I don't think there is a huge difference between developing your own pick, and having someone who you pick up as an FA and gives you 5+ quality years at the position. The Jets (like your Bears) have had a couple of "one and done" years (meaning one good year and rest suck) with guys like Vinny, Fitz, McCown, Sanchez, and Cutler, Rex, Miller, Kramer for you all etc. But they have never had someone who can string anything more than a year of consistency. I know KC has not drafted well, but they certainly have not been devoid of solid QB play over the last 30 years. Teams like the Jets, Bears and Brown have. And honestly, there are not many more teams I would place in that category. This ties well into the overall thread, because as a Jets fan, I did not like what it cost us to move up, but having experienced how QB is king (as someone who has never had a consistent one on his team in my lifetime), you must do all you can to get one.
great post and totally agree....Alex Smith/Kurt Warner gave over 5 yrs in a row of solid QB play....maybe they werent drafted by that team but that is consistent development/maintaining solid QB play for a long period of time....Since the Kenny O days you are looking at very few QBs that last more than a season but out of those few -
If you look closely at the Simpsons going to NYC -- and I'm not kidding about this -- an anonymous animator had "Can You Play Quarterback? Call 1-888-NYC-JETS" advert put on the subway ride the Simpsons take. This was during Browning Nagle. No lie.
just because the felony was dropped doesnt mean he wont be suspended....maybe a lesser one but expecting at least 2 games
And he is still a knucklehead. As much as I like the player, why would we invest money on a contract to re-sign him? I think the hope is Pryor plays well and replaces Anderson.
Part of me says just cut bait and release the guy - but he was so impressive last season and normally as an UDFA he'd be a guy you really want to pull for. But of course like you said he's a knucklehead.
I feel the opposite. How often to they trade up? I can only remember one time they traded up to get a third round pick from Detroit. I'm sure there are more, but can you really see them giving up a lot to move up? Not me. They are too cocky about finding talent at their spot.
At least they are taking fliers on some TEs - they could get lucky and find a hidden gem. Hodges had some believers during the draft process.
Funny, you do not even really hear Jackson linked to a team like the others (Darnold with Browns/Giants, for example). Apparently, his mother is representing him, and a team has placed seven calls to set something up and has yet to hear back. I understand there is a perception that agents are scum, etc., however, a first rounder would recoup the agent fee by just moving up one slot in the draft. They do more than negotiate a contract, and I think Jackson is going to learn it the hard way. A lot of analysts think he is good, yet I don't think I have seen one scenario where he cracks the top 10.
He's not my top choice, but it would be far from shocking if Jackson ends up being the best QB in the draft.
I'm basing it off of watching Mayfield (although admittedly not extensively, and also admitting I'm no scout) but I don't think he's a system guy. He's deadly accurate, mobile, can make all the throws and while this isn't scientific I like his "moxie" and leadership. I'm sure though many could have said the same thing about Geno, so I get your point.
It will be interesting, because I think there is a decent chance that all four AFC East teams walk away with a first round QB. One of them (if not 2-3) will hit. The AFC East over the last 15 years has been the poster-child of what having (and not having) a very good QB means. As much as I moan as a Jets fan for not having a viable QB in my 44 years of life, any 20+ year-old Bills or Phins fan can make the same complaint. There is blood in the proverbial AFC East waters, and the sharks are out.
Decent signing on Minter. You never know on Johnson but I'm not expecting him to make the team. He has shown flashes in the past though,
This is where I am too - either could be the best guy. I'll be happy however the chips fall. And it might be a situation where 2 or 3 turn out to be really good.
I was thinking the same thing last night. Not having a second round pick (much less two) kind of sucks. I usually do a ton of research on the top 50-60 players, but not this year. It's just the top QBs for us.
It's the perfect time to do it when the other teams in your division need QB's and have already spent draft capital to move up.
