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I mean that there's a microscope on AOC because conservative news knows their viewers/readers love to hate on young women of color. AOC is the perfect foil for Fox News. The proof is in the pudding- 95% of the "lies" flagged in this thread are nothing more than standard rhetorical flourishes that every politician on both sides of the aisle use all the time and that nobody would notice if Fox didn't flag them.
1. Do you think conservatives here on this forum "love to hate on young women of color."?
Your interpretation is pretty obviously right. She's talking about warehouse-floor workers, not management.
This is garbage. Candace Owens is lauded by the right for many reasons, but one of them is that she's a young woman of color.
'm conservative leaning and I don't hate on women of color...That's a generalization that does no good.
Some of them, probably. But I think most of them are just taking their cues from the conservative media beast. Hating on AOC is popular with old white conservatives, old white conservatives are a great target audience for certain products like reverse mortgages and insurance and pharmaceuticals and collectibles, ergo conservative media hates on AOC. It's a great business model, but it ain't exactly rocket science.
She's popular precisely because she can serve as a defense from these accusations of bigotry in conservative circles, much like Diamond and Silk did for noted racist Steve King last week. It's certainly not because of her intelligence or experience. If you can read her Wikipedia page and not immediately understand that she's running a scam, I don't know what to tell you.
So you think some of the posters here probably "love to hate on young women of color."? And the rest can't think for themselves and just take cues from the "conservative media beast".
I'm on record saying the women that play Jasmin is Disney World are some of the most perfect female examples this planet can produce, so I think I'm in the clear there.
I think "some of the posters here" love to "hate on" anything because that the nature of virtual anonymous internet communication these days.
Well a lot of them voted for a bigoted misogynist reality TV star who is almost impossibly corrupt, who lacks even a middle school student's understanding of the Constitution and the functions of the federal government, who rose to conservative political prominence by falsely claiming that Barack Obama was lying about being an American, and whose background/moral character and politics go against virtually everything they previously claimed to stand for, because conservative news media embraced him and covered up those sins.
It's the same tired argument that was used to marginalize Condaleeza Rice.
I'm not sure if comparing Condaleeza Rice to Diamond and Silk is really helping your argument here.
I would never say that about Rice or about women of color on the right more generally. My criticism was specific to Owens and Diamond and Silk.
I'm not sure who Diamond and Silk are, but I'm comparing Rice to Owens, or to Mia Love, or to several other women of color who have been attacked as viciously by the left as the right has attacked AOC.
I am not allowed within 100 feet of the Agrabah Bazaar nor within 500 feet of Belle's storyland area by order of the County Court down there. I can, of course, appeal. I believe I would lose.
Rice was attacked by the left because she was the frigging National Security Adviser during the run-up to and start of the Iraq War, which as you may remember was kind of a big deal and turned out not so great. Her gender and race had nothing to do with it. AOC is a first-term congresswoman from a far left district. Comparing the two is completely absurd.
Pocahontas blows Jasmine away. She was out at that Rafikis planet watch years ago when my kids were young enough to want to go back there at Animal Kingdom. Made that little train ride worthwhile.
Pokey, as she is known to her friends, is a rather compelling young woman, no question, but the order is Belle, Jasmine, Pokey, and then really, who cares?
Thank you for at least being consistent here. Similar to what you argue about the term socialism.
In all fairness here joe this seems kind of like a trap. Tobias was recently suspended for making some emotional comments and it is kind of like you are prodding him down that path. Maybe if you assured him that rather than suspend him you would just delete his post if you thought it was over the line, you might get better discussion from him.
The Democrats were a despondent lot before the midterms. They had suffered a crushing rebuke in 2016 and were like pigs in the wilderness. Then came 2018. The tide had not only turned, it turned out to be a bit of tsunami. At the forefront of the resurgence of hope was a young, energetic, attractive female who was a symbol they, the Democrats, embraced and put forward as potentially the face or one of the faces of their rebound. Naturally then she was going to be attacked by the Republicans. Now did the Republicans notice, as had the Democrats before them that she is young, attractive and Latina, sure. Do those attributes come with linked connotations for each side of the political divide, no doubt, but to say that she is targeted by the Republicans for those attributes, no. She is target due to her beliefs and her high profile, while that targeting is going on the other attributes are noticed and commented upon. I myself have admitted that her attributes other than her political philosophy are what interest me. I remember Ed Kennedy and Dan Rostonkowski being targeted. It had nothing to do with their youth, attractiveness, or racial makeup, it had to do with politics, with positions held.
Does he have a movie made about him? Does he even have a comic book? A million dollar slick produced you-tube video? Is he constantly on the major network news programs? Has he has SNL skits about him? Is he heavily backed by wealthy progressives? Does he constantly grab New York Times/Washington Post headlines? She was propped up by the left-wing media cartel and you want to blame the attention she gets on biggotry from the right. Really unbelievable and cheap.
I have a bigger issue with him putting negative words in my mouth. Saying that someone is "taking their cues from the conservative media beast" doesn't mean that I'm saying they "can't think for themselves." The media sets the agenda for public discourse. Their editorial decisions determine who and what we all focus on. That goes for everyone, myself included. So it seems self-evident that the AOC hatred is being driven by conservative media, who I think we can all agree focuses on her far more than her status warrants.
Is that who compels you attack her in this thread multiple times every single day over perceived flaws and mistakes, like the one this morning where you called her a Trump-style liar because she said "every employee" instead of "most employees"? A Netflix documentary, a youtube video and the Times made you do it?
As does always referring to this forum as a cesspool.
I disagree on both points.
She is the highest profile Democrat bar none. She gets far more coverage than Biden or Pelosi. It was far more than just saying 'every employee'. There was also her rhetoric of 'starvation wages', 'limiting healthcare' among others. Her anti-capitalism smears and belief in big government solutions. She is the poster child for terrible progressive thought.
Just stop....Jon does not attack her in this thread “multiple times every single day”.
She's the highest profile Democrat because of the conservative media, who give her "far more coverage" than others, which is my whole point.
No, they are qualitatively different IMO. calling what is happening at the southern border a "concentration camp" is, arguably, somewhat hyperbolic. But it is, at its core, accurate.
currently CNN has three headline AOC stories less than 24 hours old....If you would like to run the experiment again, by all means, please do so. I don't have the numbers any longer, this ended around 2 months ago. I assure you, it wasn't close. I'll willingly eat crow if you want to try it again and show me to be wrong.
Ocasio-Cortez shows discomfort when asked about Biden
Amazon condemns Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for 'starvation wages' comment
Ocasio-Cortez says pressure to impeach Trump grows every day
The difference between a hyperbole and a lie is how you choose to spin it. My guy it is only a hyperbole. Yeah right.
No interest. I can pick up AOC stories on a daily basis from either leftist or right news organizations. Trying to determine which one is more obsessed at a given time slot is pointless. She receives massive coverage from both sides and it originated from the left.
How many of the 435 are presidential candidates fighting for their endorsement? Pretty much just this one. It doesn't make logical sense, but that is the way it is.
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