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QB Taysom Hill, NO (4 Viewers)
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barackdhouse
Footballguy
It is FFPC SF and you aren't allowed to roster more than 3 QBs coming out of the startup and he was at the limit. So he put Cousins OTB for a couple hours, got no bites and took Deebo instead.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Yeah I was really hoping they would give Winston a starter's contract or that he would sign elsewhere. This is my worst nightmare as an owner of both of them in SF. Not terrible, though, but was hoping to sell one or both before the NFL draft. I might go with the assumption that Winston is the one worth keeping and try to sell Hill for whatever I can get. Rostering both is probably not practical in FFPC.
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Apple Juice
Footballguy
I hoped the same thing. My best guess is Winston takes the Brees role and Hill is used in the same situations he was last year (mostly around the goal line). That offense desperately needs to be able to throw downfield and open things up.
No way to prove it but I think they started Hill over Winston because they didn't want any controversy or disruption when Brees came back. Not that Winston is amazing, but after seeing him throw 50 years downfield it'd be pretty jarring to go back to Brees and his ten yard slants.
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Hill played better than I expected last season, but it's hard to imagine him being an effective long term NFL QB with his accuracy issues and what looks like (to me) a weak arm. It would surely help two of my dynasty teams, but I just don't see it.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
I think giving him a few gadget plays a game is a better plan. Could hurt Jameis if they are goal line plays.
-jb-
Footballguy
A beat writer mentioned that he thought they may use Taysom less as a gadget guy if Jameis gets the starting gig. Called it a luxury that they could afford when they had three QBs. Not sure I buy that.
There’s also this voice in my head that keeps telling me Payton’s ego will want to prove to the world that he was right about Hills “specialness.”
There’s also this voice in my head that keeps telling me Payton’s ego will want to prove to the world that he was right about Hills “specialness.”
Doug B
Footballguy
The Saints still have three QBs -- rookie Ian Book is a virtual hammer lock for the opening day roster. I can see the Saints not wanting Book to be pressed in as the #2, but otherwise ... not sure what that writer is talking about.
-jb-
Footballguy
Thx for this. Didn’t smell right regardless.
The Saints still have three QBs -- rookie Ian Book is a virtual hammer lock for the opening day roster. I can see the Saints not wanting Book to be pressed in as the #2, but otherwise ... not sure what that writer is talking about.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I’ve heard the argument “why are we wondering what they’ll do, they had the same choices last year and went 3-1.” Thomas still saw a ton of targets but IIRC Kamara, while still effective, saw a decrease. But my expectation is no matter who is the QB both their studs will eat.
I have no confidence in whoever they decide is their WR2/3/4 regardless. But Troutnan is intriguing.
Do people ever consider a Saints QB in start 1 leagues? I would think no.
-jb-
Footballguy
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
My league uses team QBs. They could use all 3 in the same game and you get to count all 3 as 1.Loveman this year. For QB, depends on scoring system.
-jb-
Footballguy
I am in one like this as well. See this thread. Would welcome your thoughts. I called out the Saints situation as a value play this year. My league mates may see it the same way though.
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
Yes, I drafted both this offseason. I like Winston, but hedged my bet some by taking Hill even later.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I'm not in any leagues that use team QBs - but I think leagues like that are the only one's where I can trust this situation. I just dealt Winston/Hill in a dynasty league because I just can't trust Peyton not to rotate these guys in and out during a game - that's how smart he thinks he is.
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
I feel as though most days Winston will have the better day throwing the football. And correct me if I'm wrong as I'm trying to multi-task here, but the second quote is saying Hill had a tough time throwing the ball down field, and most of his completions were short little guys. This competition will all depend on what type of offense they are going to run. Downfield passing will be Winston, mobile QB/short passing game will be Hill, or it will be the dreaded QBBC.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Yeah, Winston is always going to look great throwing the ball. His problems come when asked to make decisions under pressure as he seems to always default to yolo ball.
Tanner9919
Footballguy
there is going to be FF value in N.O., Sean Payton is not going to change anything simple because Brees retired.remember, Payton is as stubborn as a mule. This offense should still be the fling it and wing it variety. sleeper offensive production since everyone figures the Saints are dead.
wgoldsph
Footballguy
I don't get the negativity around a qbbc. I can't remember a truly legitimate one in the NFL (if there was one, it was from before my time) and the idea of it happening is genuinely exciting. Even in fantasy I can see Hill having stand alone value by him also rushing and receiving during game days while splitting qb reps.
Sign me up for this train as my backup in 1 qbs and a longshot no2 in superflex if I'm going hero qb.
Sign me up for this train as my backup in 1 qbs and a longshot no2 in superflex if I'm going hero qb.
The Frankman
Footballguy
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
A redraft league I just did that's 2QB had some QBs get away from me at certain points when I was at the end of runs and such. I have Jalen Hurts, Trey Lance (who I believe starts sooner rather than later) and Taysom Hill. I'm thinking Hill gets more play at QB than years past (aside from when he was the starter obviously). Plus his time at his other positions, he still may be somewhat useful to those in dire need of a second QB, especially if he plays more by the goaline.
Marion Blitz
Footballguy
If Taysom isn’t the starting QB, what are the chances that he gains multi-positional eligibility…in fantasy?
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
The Frankman
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The Frankman
Footballguy
The General
Footballguy
He's going to be the guy right? What are the Saints saying?
Maik Jeaunz
Footballguy
I like Taysom, but I’m not sure he would have won that game on Sunday after Winston went down. Siemian gets the ball out quicker and plays a little more under control.
oddsbodkins
Footballguy
Doug B
Footballguy
The Saints are saying nothing -- not even read-between-the-lines coachspeak or cryptic teammate tweets. Sean Payton never tips his cards.
Some local fans believe Hill is automatically elevated to starting QB once he clears concussion protocol. I disagree that the starting job goes to a healthy Hill automatically -- I'd say right now that Trevor Siemian is a slight favorite to start the Atlanta game.
All the same, I have waiver claims in for Hill.
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
Keep em guessing and perhaps Payton doesn't even know yet? I would think by today or tomorrow that choice will be known, at least by the head coaching staff. I imagine Coach Payton will be asked once again later this afternoon.
The General
Footballguy
IIRC last year he waited until the very end to announce Taysom was the guy over Jameis as well.
Absolutely Nothing
Footballguy
Picked up Hill, but I'm not particularly happy about it. We'll see what the coaching decision is like, but I could see Siemian starting with Hill as gadget back-up. Even if he is starting we need to see what his rushing usage is.
I can't complain too much, I've got Mahomes, but I'm hesitant with Hill until I'm proven wrong (which I hope I am)
I can't complain too much, I've got Mahomes, but I'm hesitant with Hill until I'm proven wrong (which I hope I am)
squistion
Footballguy
He did and that really pissed me off in one league. I had to make a roster cutdown decision and Taysom was the obvious choice if Jameis was the starter. Instead, I finally had to cut another player (that turned out to have some value) and then found out Taysom was the backup.
The General
Footballguy
I have a feeling this is what he will do. Surprised me last year when he went with Taysom.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Trevor Siemian to start in Week 9 vs. Falcons
I'm genuinely surprised, although at least it conclusively resolves my "Hill vs Tua" debate for this week. Will be curious to see how much Hill's health played into the decision.
Macdaddy_2004
Footballguy
Blew my faab. Guess Payton really doesn't want taysom in the QB role
The Frankman
Footballguy
It feels like they want to get Hill to shake off rust before throwing him out there (he hasn't had a full week of practice yet), but also it's a bit of an indictment of his current skill as a QB. That being said, I wouldn't be surprised to see him named the starter next week.
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