wikkidpissah 19,180 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Major said: Is it me or does Kemba hold that team back? I think you trade him for some asset who can help now. Brian Scalabrine, who has taken over fulltime now for Tommy Heinsohn as Celtic color man, has done a wonderful job talking about Kemba's Celtic role this season. Basically, he didnt know how to play with guys who were nowhere near as likely to #### it up as he was used to and, in his first go-round as a Celtic, deferred to his new teammates, not wanting to be the Kyrie, to his and their detriment. Then came the knee and the two factors combined in this summer's bubble disaster. Scal works out with these guys now & then and said that they had Kemba really focused, during his rehab, on playing balls-out for shorter arcs of time ("point-a-minute" Scal called it) with his teammates being the ones to defer, as the best way to integrate his game with the young stars. First 3-4 games back, it was working like a charm but, for some reason, the prime-time Laker game turned him right back into the yipatron he'd been in the bubble. He was as halting as his 2020 self then against GS and out for the b2b last nite. It remains to be seen what the next act in this drama will bring. Edited February 4 by wikkidpissah Quote Link to post Share on other sites
modogg 4,945 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 hour ago, Major said: Is it me or does Kemba hold that team back? I think you trade him for some asset who can help now. i don't know what they would expect to get back for Kemba. With his degen knee issue and larger contract i don't know if he has a ton of value going forward. i do enjoy watching the CLNS podcast about the C's, the 4 guys on it seem like good media guys. what is funny is after almost every single loss the entire C fanbase talks about trading Tristan and Kemba for some top player around the league, or just throwing all of their crap players like Grant Williams, Romeo, etc. and getting something back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
modogg 4,945 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 hour ago, wikkidpissah said: Brian Scalabrine, who has taken over fulltime now for Tommy Heinsohn as Celtic color man, has done a wonderful job talking about Kemba's Celtic role this season. Basically, he didnt know how to play with guys who were nowhere near as likely to #### it up as he was used to and, in his first go-round as a Celtic, deferred to his new teammates, not wanting to be the Kyrie, to his and their detriment. Then came the knee and the two factors combined in this summer's bubble disaster. Scal works out with these guys now & then and said that they had Kemba really focused, during his rehab, on playing balls-out for shorter arcs of time ("point-a-minute" Scal called it) with his teammates being the ones to defer, as the best way to integrate his game with the young stars. First 3-4 games back, it was working like a charm but, for some reason, the prime-time Laker game turned him right back into the yipatron he'd been in the bubble. He was as halting as his 2020 self then against GS and out for the b2b last nite. It remains to be seen what the next act in this drama will bring. i don't know if Heyward would have wanted to sign back with the C's, but he seems to be doing fairly well after moving on. Tristan is a bit of a dumpster fire Quote Link to post Share on other sites
modogg 4,945 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Using twitter for the all stars is so silly. if it didn't effect player contracts it would be fine but we really think there are that many people in the country who are capable of doing this correctly?: Chris Palmer @ChrisPalmerNBA 1h All-Star Vote Leaders: 1. KD 2,302,705 2. LeBron 2,288,676 3. Steph 2,113,178 4. Giannis 1,752,185 5. Embiid 1,584,028 40. Klay Thompson 99,094 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Major 1,607 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 59 minutes ago, modogg said: i don't know what they would expect to get back for Kemba. With his degen knee issue and larger contract i don't know if he has a ton of value going forward. i do enjoy watching the CLNS podcast about the C's, the 4 guys on it seem like good media guys. what is funny is after almost every single loss the entire C fanbase talks about trading Tristan and Kemba for some top player around the league, or just throwing all of their crap players like Grant Williams, Romeo, etc. and getting something back. Yeah, I should've prefaced by saying I have no idea about his trade value, contract, etc. I'm only a casual Celtics viewer but I'd like to see Jaylen run the show. Seems like Kemba can get in the way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bears_Man2 39 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Who is more likely to be an All Star this season? Derrick Rose or Ben Simmons? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deamon 5,608 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 9 minutes ago, Bears_Man2 said: Who is more likely to be an All Star this season? Derrick Rose or Ben Simmons? Actually? Ben: 13.4P, 8.1R, 8.0A, 1.7S, 0.9B, 1st place in the East. Rose: 14.2P, 1.9R, 4.2A, 1.2S, 0.3B, Last place in the East. And that's not even counting Defense which is perhaps Ben's biggest strength. But I'm sure most in here are going to somehow pick Rose. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
modogg 4,945 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 lol, what the heck are the Sixers doing tonight? losing by 20 to the T-Blazers is astonshing considering they have virtually no one playing. At least everybody can't blame for this one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deamon 5,608 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 25 minutes ago, modogg said: lol, what the heck are the Sixers doing tonight? losing by 20 to the T-Blazers is astonshing considering they have virtually no one playing. At least everybody can't blame for this one Yep... Embiid's first home loss of the entire year. And it's to a Dame-less Blazers team and the game isn't even close. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alex P Keaton 4,285 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Dallas is really not a good team right now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EYLive 5,471 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 The Lakers' defense and energy is excellent, but the Nuggets also got freezing cold in the second half. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deamon 5,608 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 5 hours ago, Alex P Keaton said: Dallas is really not a good team right now. Ya their dropoff has been remarkable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deamon 5,608 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 There's such a clear top 4 teams in each conference right now. If the standings finish the way they are today, we could have the best and most exciting 2nd round playoff matchups of all time. Celtics vs Sixers Nets vs Bucks Nuggets vs Jazz Lakers vs Clippers That would be so much fun. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub 89 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Sixers destroyed by Blazers Cha-Ching! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deamon 5,608 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub said: Sixers destroyed by Blazers Cha-Ching! Let me guess, easy money for you because you bet against them last night but just didn't happen to bet against them in all their wins recently 😛 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leeroy Jenkins 3,052 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 They are really going to PLAY an all-star game and bring in all these people for no real reason? Come on Adam Silver. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
General Malaise 27,539 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 76ers lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deamon 5,608 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 46 minutes ago, General Malaise said: 76ers lol Ya it's pretty much trolling at this point simply because there's more Sixers fans in the thread than any other team. And this is from a Dallas fan?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gr00vus 11,999 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Philadelphia fans are the best/worst. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jayrod 4,976 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 8 hours ago, Deamon said: There's such a clear top 4 teams in each conference right now. If the standings finish the way they are today, we could have the best and most exciting 2nd round playoff matchups of all time. Celtics vs Sixers Nets vs Bucks Nuggets vs Jazz Lakers vs Clippers That would be so much fun. As a Boston fan, the Celtics are clearly the 8th best team in that group. They are more on par with Phoenix and Indiana than those other 7. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deamon 5,608 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 2 minutes ago, Jayrod said: As a Boston fan, the Celtics are clearly the 8th best team in that group. They are more on par with Phoenix and Indiana than those other 7. Ya maybe so. I try not to follow any Celtics stuff since they let Kelly walk. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jayrod 4,976 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 What does everybody think of the Jazz? They seem to be kind of legit this year. I've been a big fan of Snyder over the last few years and I like Gobert, Mitchell and Conley. In this run where they've won like 14 out of 15, they have not played either LA team or Philly, but did play 2 vs Denver and the Bucks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jayrod 4,976 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 3 minutes ago, Deamon said: Ya maybe so. I try not to follow any Celtics stuff since they let Kelly walk. Olynyk? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deamon 5,608 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 2 minutes ago, Jayrod said: Olynyk? Ya I was his coach when he was in grade 8. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
General Malaise 27,539 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 42 minutes ago, Deamon said: Ya it's pretty much trolling at this point simply because there's more Sixers fans in the thread than any other team. And this is from a Dallas fan?? Just comical how many keystrokes have been wasted on a team that consistently underperforms and perpetually fails to live up to the hype. Last night, the 76ers lost - AT HOME - to a team that was without their starting backcourt, starting center and small forward. This was 87 year old Carmelo Anthony and G-team players. Philly was outscored 64-38 in the second half. It's the NBA and that stuff happens. We're allowed to chuckle at it when it does. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deamon 5,608 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 minute ago, General Malaise said: Just comical how many keystrokes have been wasted on a team that consistently underperforms and perpetually fails to live up to the hype. Last night, the 76ers lost - AT HOME - to a team that was without their starting backcourt, starting center and small forward. This was 87 year old Carmelo Anthony and G-team players. Philly was outscored 64-38 in the second half. It's the NBA and that stuff happens. We're allowed to chuckle at it when it does. Dude they're first in the East, chill lol. That stuff does happen... when teams like the Knicks blowout the Bucks, anything can happen. Philly SHOULD have won that game, but they were also on a back to back and missing their All-Star point guard too. They definitely sucked, and were TERRIBLE in the 3rd quarter which was the only quarter they lost. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wikkidpissah 19,180 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 28 minutes ago, Deamon said: Ya maybe so. I try not to follow any Celtics stuff since they let Kelly walk. no more 3-way roast beefs?!?! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wikkidpissah 19,180 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Jayrod said: What does everybody think of the Jazz? They seem to be kind of legit this year. I've been a big fan of Snyder over the last few years and I like Gobert, Mitchell and Conley. In this run where they've won like 14 out of 15, they have not played either LA team or Philly, but did play 2 vs Denver and the Bucks. i'd like to like em better because theyre the Celts of the west - team-conceptwise, and we're rapidly running out of team-concept franchises. i'd like to like em better because nobody's making them pay for their size & mobility issues at forward i'd like to like em better, but Conley's regression to the mean has begun and they're just easier to figure out in a series than in a game Edited February 5 by wikkidpissah Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leeroy Jenkins 3,052 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Seth Curry seems to have really had issues since COVID. His lungs and legs are not there it seems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mr. furley 12,406 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 8 hours ago, Jayrod said: What does everybody think of the Jazz? They seem to be kind of legit this year. I've been a big fan of Snyder over the last few years and I like Gobert, Mitchell and Conley. In this run where they've won like 14 out of 15, they have not played either LA team or Philly, but did play 2 vs Denver and the Bucks. Mannix and Beck were talking about not being surprised if they got to the WCF. they were talking like Utah is top 5-6. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Craig_MiamiFL 2,618 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 (edited) Durant Out Durant In Durant Out Health and Safety protocol BTW And these fools want to have an All Star gathering? Edited February 6 by Craig_MiamiFL 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Craig_MiamiFL 2,618 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 (edited) Just another game for Lamelo https://twitter.com/overtime/status/1357893444463689728 So fun. Enjoy the ride and gift Charlotte. Edited February 6 by Craig_MiamiFL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wikkidpissah 19,180 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Kyrie found an owchie so he dont have to fight Harden for the ball (and easy covers) without KD . And DeAndre is already running like Roger Murdoch piggybacking Bob Lanier to the airplane bathroom as the guy who's sposeta guard evvybody. great show - 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
modogg 4,945 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 On 2/5/2021 at 10:24 AM, Deamon said: Let me guess, easy money for you because you bet against them last night but just didn't happen to bet against them in all their wins recently 😛 i'm guessing we won't hear from Soduko in the Tub tonight or tommorrow Ben had a hell of a game though 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deamon 5,608 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 9 minutes ago, modogg said: i'm guessing we won't hear from Soduko in the Tub tonight or tommorrow Ben had a hell of a game though He probably took the night off betting. He'll make another bet right before the sixers lose their next game. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
modogg 4,945 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Just now, Deamon said: He probably took the night off betting. He'll make another bet right before the sixers lose their next game. i'm guessing the bet will come in after they lose, but probably right Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EYLive 5,471 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 LeBron's 3pt shooting is on another level this year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juxtatarot 11,522 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Shams Charania @ShamsCharania 2hThe Detroit Pistons are nearing agreement on deal to send Derrick Rose to the New York Knicks for Dennis Smith Jr. and draft compensation, sources tell me and @JLEdwardsIII Who knew Thibs was so nostalgic? . . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whoknew 8,968 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 55 minutes ago, Juxtatarot said: Shams Charania @ShamsCharania 2hThe Detroit Pistons are nearing agreement on deal to send Derrick Rose to the New York Knicks for Dennis Smith Jr. and draft compensation, sources tell me and @JLEdwardsIII Who knew Thibs was so nostalgic? . . Pistons got a 2021 2nd rounder with Smith. Seems like a solid deal for them. Smith is an expiring. So they give him a 50 game tryout and get a 2nd round pick. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kodycutter 963 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 hour ago, whoknew said: Pistons got a 2021 2nd rounder with Smith. Seems like a solid deal for them. Smith is an expiring. So they give him a 50 game tryout and get a 2nd round pick. Dennis Smith is awful, how bad do you have to be at PG on the Knicks to get sent to the G-league? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wikkidpissah 19,180 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Casey's a bit of a whisperer for attitudinous PGs. Lowry, VanVleet in Canada, turning Delon Wright into an actual point this season. DSJ's his kinda kid Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Craig_MiamiFL 2,618 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 (edited) Wouldn't be another Bulls season without Wendell Carter and Laurie missing time. Laurie now out 2-4 weeks. Carter's out another month or so. Thought they'd need to pick one or the other before the season....trade/let both walk probably an option. If Lonzo Ball is available, I'd deal either or both for him. (Though Pellies seem "set" in the frontcourt. For better or worse by overpaying Steven Adams) I think the Bulls are better w/o Laurie. Decent offensive player (at times) but that's it. I wouldn't pay the guy $20m/yr to pay one end of the court for 1/2 the season. Edited February 8 by Craig_MiamiFL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juxtatarot 11,522 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 6 minutes ago, Craig_MiamiFL said: Wouldn't be another Bulls season without Wendell Carter and Laurie missing time. Laurie now out 2-4 weeks. Carter's out another month or so. Thought they'd need to pick one or the other before the season....trade/let both walk probably an option. If Lonzo Ball is available, I'd deal either or both for him. (Though Pellies seem "set" in the frontcourt. For better or worse by overpaying Steven Adams) I think the Bulls are better w/o Laurie. Decent offensive player (at times) but that's it. I wouldn't pay the guy $20m/yr to pay one end of the court for 1/2 the season. I don't get why the Pelicans would want to trade Lonzo. With Zion and Ingram, they should be trying to win as many games as possible and push for the playoffs. Their remaining cast of PGs are certainly a downgrade. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jvdesigns2002 3,162 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 15 minutes ago, Craig_MiamiFL said: Wouldn't be another Bulls season without Wendell Carter and Laurie missing time. Laurie now out 2-4 weeks. Carter's out another month or so. Thought they'd need to pick one or the other before the season....trade/let both walk probably an option. If Lonzo Ball is available, I'd deal either or both for him. (Though Pellies seem "set" in the frontcourt. For better or worse by overpaying Steven Adams) I think the Bulls are better w/o Laurie. Decent offensive player (at times) but that's it. I wouldn't pay the guy $20m/yr to pay one end of the court for 1/2 the season. Pelicans set in their front court? Aside from Zion and Adams--they have literally no depth. I do like Jaxson Hayes--but he's very young and raw and has a bad habit of getting into foul trouble. The Pelicans are set in their backcourt if anything. They have an over abundance of guards--bledsoe, ball, Nickeil, Kira lewis. They could use front court depth or a wing defender as the closest thing they have to that is Josh Hart. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juxtatarot 11,522 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 22 minutes ago, Craig_MiamiFL said: Wouldn't be another Bulls season without Wendell Carter and Laurie missing time. Laurie now out 2-4 weeks. Carter's out another month or so. Thought they'd need to pick one or the other before the season....trade/let both walk probably an option. If Lonzo Ball is available, I'd deal either or both for him. (Though Pellies seem "set" in the frontcourt. For better or worse by overpaying Steven Adams) I think the Bulls are better w/o Laurie. Decent offensive player (at times) but that's it. I wouldn't pay the guy $20m/yr to pay one end of the court for 1/2 the season. By the way, I'm on board with trading Lauri. Patrick Williams will probably end up being their long-term 4. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
General Malaise 27,539 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Darnell Valentine time! His last believer alive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Craig_MiamiFL 2,618 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 (edited) 32 minutes ago, jvdesigns2002 said: Pelicans set in their front court? Aside from Zion and Adams--they have literally no depth. I do like Jaxson Hayes--but he's very young and raw and has a bad habit of getting into foul trouble. The Pelicans are set in their backcourt if anything. They have an over abundance of guards--bledsoe, ball, Nickeil, Kira lewis. They could use front court depth or a wing defender as the closest thing they have to that is Josh Hart. I hear Brandon Ingram is pretty good. They're set in starting frontcourt....for better or worse with Adams...for years ahead. All the backcourt pieces you've mentioned have more questions than answers. Edited February 8 by Craig_MiamiFL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Craig_MiamiFL 2,618 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 33 minutes ago, Juxtatarot said: By the way, I'm on board with trading Lauri. Patrick Williams will probably end up being their long-term 4. Yep I agree. Lauri reminds me of Mirotic. Inconsistent one half of court player that shows flashes but not enough to warrant committing big money to long term. I think someone will pay Lauri this offseason...time for Bulls to try to get something in return. They aren't getting but a turkey sandwich for Carter so I think he's more likely to stay (for now). 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jvdesigns2002 3,162 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 31 minutes ago, Craig_MiamiFL said: I hear Brandon Ingram is pretty good. They're set in starting frontcourt....for better or worse with Adams...for years ahead. All the backcourt pieces you've mentioned have more questions than answers. When you say front court players in the context you are including Steven Adams--the inference is bigger and more imposing types of players. Brandon Ingram is a long and linky player that offensively plays like a bigger 2 than he does a quintessential front court player. Even if you want to lump him in as a true front court player---what is their depth? They have a starting SF, a starting PF in Zion, and Adams. The depth behind those guys is a huge question mark. Nickeil is not a question mark--he's uber talented and given consistent playing time and development--he will be a solid player. The reason why NAW and Kira look like question marks right now is because Van Gundy decided he wanted to start the year playing like 7-8 man rotations and literally impeded the development of a lot of these guys. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juxtatarot 11,522 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 1 hour ago, General Malaise said: Darnell Valentine time! His last believer alive. The guy who played for the Blazers in the '80s? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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