2020-21 NBA Thread: AROD buys Timberwolves to satisfy lifelong dream of living in Minnesota

[Desert_Power 1,047]

Not sure if this is a hot take, but Marc Gasol looks awful.

[modogg 4,948]

Lebron plays 43 minutes tonight in a loss against Washington  #NotMyMVP

[EYLive 5,471]

1 hour ago, modogg said:

Lebron plays 43 minutes tonight in a loss against Washington  #NotMyMVP

Did you watch the game?

[Deamon 5,608]

1 hour ago, modogg said:

Lebron plays 43 minutes tonight in a loss against Washington  #NotMyMVP

All these OT games are killing him.  He's logging major minutes and not taking days off.  As much as I hate the guy, I'm even more impressed with how his body is holding up than I already was.  Am shocked they're not giving him a bunch of load management as was predicted pre season.  I think he wants this MVP badly... but at some point down the stretch, he's going to need to start taking some games off if they want to be fresh for the playoffs.  His stamina is insane, I wonder if he can keep this up all season.

[wikkidpissah 19,192]

i am not a fan, but LeBron James is the most indomitable athlete of my lifetime. except that football/lacrosse great Jim Brown might have provided challenge for consideration if he'd stayed longer in competitive sports, it's not even particularly close.

[Bears_Man2 39]

Lakers waive Omar Cook to clear roster spot

Rockets waive Demarcus Cousins.

Anthony Davis out a month or more. 

Welcome back to LA Demarcus.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22 4,249]

6 hours ago, wikkidpissah said:

i am not a fan, but LeBron James is the most indomitable athlete of my lifetime. except that football/lacrosse great Jim Brown might have provided challenge for consideration if he'd stayed longer in competitive sports, it's not even particularly close.

It helps that they have removed 90% of the physicality from the entire sport. going forward there will an ever increasing number of guys who play just as long and some as well as Lebron.

30 years ago Lebron drives to the hole and gets closed lined and spends the rest of his career hiding at the three point line. Nothing will ever convince me that Lebron has the mental fortitude to compete with Jordan. I hated Jordan but he would have ripped LeBron's heart from his chest and shoved it down Lebrons neck. 

 

Incredible athlete. Best of his generation. Firmly outside my top 10. I know, Im a big hater. Tell you what, you take your 5 and Ill take mine. Lebrons passing would be his greatest strength on the floor that day. 

Edited February 23 by STEADYMOBBIN 22

[Desert_Power 1,047]

6 hours ago, EYLive said:

Did you watch the game?

Obviously not.

[Leeroy Jenkins 3,055]

7 minutes ago, STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:

It helps that they have removed 90% of the physicality from the entire sport. going forward there will an ever increasing number of guys who play just as long and some as well as Lebron.

30 years ago Lebron drives to the hole and gets closed lined and spends the rest of his career hiding at the three point line. Nothing will ever convince me that Lebron has the mental fortitude to compete with Jordan. I hated Jordan but he would have ripped LeBron's heart from his chest and shoved it down Lebrons neck. 

 

Incredible athlete. Best of his generation. Firmly outside my top 10. I know, Im a big hater. Tell you what, you take your 5 and Ill take mine. Lebrons passing would be his greatest strength on the floor that day. 

I agree with everything except having him outside of your top 10.  He is top 5, probably top 2 depending on how I feel about big men that day.  

[STEADYMOBBIN 22 4,249]

11 minutes ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:

I agree with everything except having him outside of your top 10.  He is top 5, probably top 2 depending on how I feel about big men that day.  

I would select every one of these guys ahead of Lebron each and every time:

 

Jordan

Wilt

Russell

Bird

Magic

Kareem

Hakim

Kobe

Duncan

Shaq

 

 

 

[SWC 15,754]

i am also sorry that i am to dumb with math take that to the bank bromigos 

[wikkidpissah 19,192]

13 minutes ago, SWC said:

i am also sorry that i am to dumb with math take that to the bank bromigos 

have somebody else make out your deposit slip and you'll be fine, bronational

[SWC 15,754]

Just now, wikkidpissah said:

11 minutes ago, SWC said:

i am also sorry that i am to dumb with math take that to the bank bromigos 

have somebody else make out your deposit slip and you'll be fine, bronational

i have trust issues bromigo i have trust issues take that to the bank 

[modogg 4,948]

7 hours ago, Deamon said:

All these OT games are killing him.  He's logging major minutes and not taking days off.  As much as I hate the guy, I'm even more impressed with how his body is holding up than I already was.  Am shocked they're not giving him a bunch of load management as was predicted pre season.  I think he wants this MVP badly... but at some point down the stretch, he's going to need to start taking some games off if they want to be fresh for the playoffs.  His stamina is insane, I wonder if he can keep this up all season.

honestly, i think there is some PED use. He has played for 18 years, and the wear and tear on his body would seem to suggest that he has to have some addl. help. Like his hairline, i think he has to be taking something. Maybe he is on that Tom Brady TB11 that seems to beat the drug tests and have Brady looking as good as he is at this point

That isn't taking away from the fact that he probably does do a good job of caring for his body with good nutrition, etc. But to play for 18 years as many minutes as he has without taking a lot of time off for injuries is not the norm for most. I know that the NBA wants to promote LeBron and suggest he is a "superman", but it would be better if they embraced the science behind it and discussed the pro's and con's. 

 

[modogg 4,948]

8 hours ago, EYLive said:

Did you watch the game?

caught some of the 2nd half. Enjoy watching Caruso play and a soft spot in my heart for Morris. 

[wikkidpissah 19,192]

1 hour ago, STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:

It helps that they have removed 90% of the physicality from the entire sport. going forward there will an ever increasing number of guys who play just as long and some as well as Lebron.

30 years ago Lebron drives to the hole and gets closed lined and spends the rest of his career hiding at the three point line. Nothing will ever convince me that Lebron has the mental fortitude to compete with Jordan. I hated Jordan but he would have ripped LeBron's heart from his chest and shoved it down Lebrons neck. 

 

Incredible athlete. Best of his generation. Firmly outside my top 10. I know, Im a big hater. Tell you what, you take your 5 and Ill take mine. Lebrons passing would be his greatest strength on the floor that day. 

it's weird for me to be in a position of defending LeBron - i wont watch him except against my home team and in finals - but, if this guy hadda dish it out, he'd have Heinsohns & Jungle Jim Loscutoffs, or Mos & Kermits or Oaks & Mahorns bouncin' off of him. guy's a robofreak - never seen anyone reach his velocity on a hardcourt and i seen him jusplain shake off stuff that would end seasons for most.

where he's a li'l ##### is to be as bodyblessed as he is and still need to hear "you da man" everywhere in order to keep his panties smooth. that's why i'd choose up almost as many as you ahead of him for an alltime game (of course - there are two i'd chooseup over Jordan, too), but i stand by my position on his combo of power, precision and presence over any athlete i've seen.

Edited February 23 by wikkidpissah

[Capella 31,470]

4 hours ago, STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:

It helps that they have removed 90% of the physicality from the entire sport. going forward there will an ever increasing number of guys who play just as long and some as well as Lebron.

30 years ago Lebron drives to the hole and gets closed lined and spends the rest of his career hiding at the three point line. Nothing will ever convince me that Lebron has the mental fortitude to compete with Jordan. I hated Jordan but he would have ripped LeBron's heart from his chest and shoved it down Lebrons neck. 

 

Incredible athlete. Best of his generation. Firmly outside my top 10. I know, Im a big hater. Tell you what, you take your 5 and Ill take mine. Lebrons passing would be his greatest strength on the floor that day. 

What a post. 

Edited February 23 by Capella

[Capella 31,470]

Imagine thinking two hundred pound Bill Laimbeer is going to hurt Lebron freaking James   

 

You guys stuck in the 80s kill me. 

Edited February 23 by Capella

[Zigg 1,435]

11 minutes ago, Capella said:

Imagine thinking two hundred pound Bill Laimbeer is going to hurt Lebron freaking James   

 

You guys stuck in the 80s kill me. 

He’s only good because he never had to deal with Anthony Mason and John Starks. 

[Navin Johnson 519]

13 minutes ago, Capella said:

Imagine thinking two hundred pound Bill Laimbeer is going to hurt Lebron freaking James   

 

You guys stuck in the 80s kill me. 

Dude is basically Karl Malone (build wise) who can shoot, dribble, pass, is quick, and has hops.  All those guys in the 80's would have been on the wrong end of those train wrecks.

[Juxtatarot 11,531]

Will Zach LaVine make the All-Star team? 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22 4,249]

41 minutes ago, Capella said:

 What a horrible post. 

You're a big zero dude. You add nothing to the conversation.

You don’t act like this in real life. No reason to pretend on this board. 
 

 

 

Edited February 23 by STEADYMOBBIN 22

[Zigg 1,435]

25 minutes ago, Navin Johnson said:

Dude is basically Karl Malone (build wise) who can shoot, dribble, pass, is quick, and has hops.  All those guys in the 80's would have been on the wrong end of those train wrecks.

Dale Davis would have ate LeBron’s lunch.

[Bears_Man2 39]

Lord Jesus. 

No one this era, that era, is stopping 250-70 lb Lebron at the dish. Just thinking about Laimbeer just trying it (one....and last time) is hilarious.

With the ability to use hands on defense then, sure he'd obviously face a little more resistance getting to the hoop.

Jordan will always be #1 for me but Lebron has as good a case as any for 2.

[STEADYMOBBIN 22 4,249]

28 minutes ago, Zigg said:

He’s only good because he never had to deal with Anthony Mason and John Starks. 

Puuuleease. Lebron would have flopped against those guys too. 

[Capella 31,470]

2 minutes ago, STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:

You a big zero dude. You add nothing to the conversation.

You don’t act like this in real life. No reason to pretend on this board. 
 

 

 

You just spent 3 paragraphs fantasizing about how Lebron would get clotheslined so bad in the 80s that he would just hang out at the 3 point line, and how Jordan would rip his heart out and eat it or something weird and I’m the big zero who doesn’t act this way.  Ok. 

Edited February 23 by Capella

[STEADYMOBBIN 22 4,249]

26 minutes ago, Navin Johnson said:

Dude is basically Karl Malone (build wise) who can shoot, dribble, pass, is quick, and has hops.  All those guys in the 80's would have been on the wrong end of those train wrecks.

ORLY?

He barely survives those “fouls”.

[Bears_Man2 39]

6 minutes ago, Juxtatarot said:

Will Zach LaVine make the All-Star team? 

Haven't looked into the alternatives, but I'd say yes.

No question he deserves it.

[STEADYMOBBIN 22 4,249]

2 minutes ago, Capella said:

You just spent 3 paragraphs fantasizing about how Lebron would get clotheslined so bad in the 80s that he would just hang out at the 3 point line, and how Jordan would rip his heart out and eat it or something weird and I’m the big zero who doesn’t act this way.  Ok. 

You literally lack the capability to have a discussion, don’t you?

 

Being a smarmy Richard isn’t a reply. 

 

 

[Navin Johnson 519]

6 minutes ago, Zigg said:

Dale Davis would have ate LeBron’s lunch.

Is that a polite way of saying LBJ would have tea bagged him?

 

[Capella 31,470]

Just now, STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:

You literally lack the capability to have a discussion, don’t you?

 

Being a smarmy Richard isn’t a reply. 

 

 

I have conversations on here all the time man. There’s really not much conversation to be had about who would dominate the 80s - Lebron James or a bunch of guys who would never ever ever make an NBA roster in 2021. 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22 4,249]

23 minutes ago, Capella said:

I have conversations on here all the time man. There’s really not much conversation to be had about who would dominate the 80s - Lebron James or a bunch of guys who would never ever ever make an NBA roster in 2021. 

You quote me, crap all over what I say and laugh but you dont have anything to say on the topic?

 

Not very cool Cappy. 

 

Edited February 23 by STEADYMOBBIN 22

[Zigg 1,435]

28 minutes ago, STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:

ORLY?

He barely survives those “fouls”.

Is your argument that LeBron flops, so he wouldn't be able to compete in the Jordan era?

[caustic 4,092]

The Golden Age of basketball

[STEADYMOBBIN 22 4,249]

Just now, Zigg said:

Is your argument that LeBron flops, so he wouldn't be able to compete in the Jordan era?

No.
 

 

 

[HellToupee 15,759]

3 minutes ago, caustic said:

The Golden Age of basketball

 “Kareem’s overrated too”

gtfo . The chump talks over a very sloppy couple of game minutes and uses it to trash greats like McHale . Just a silly goose

[HellToupee 15,759]

The flopping really is embarrassing. The guy is a beast in every facet and does that. A real shame

[Frostillicus 14,423]

45 minutes ago, STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:

ORLY?

He barely survives those “fouls”.

1. There are almost no flops in that awesome sweet gotcha video

2. You can make a "flopper" video for just about any player.

[scoobus 1,440]

It's amazing anyone survived the 80s with all those vicious clotheslines and whatnot.

[Frostillicus 14,423]

2 minutes ago, scoobus said:

It's amazing anyone survived the 80s with all those vicious clotheslines and whatnot.

It's all the mental toughness. 

 

[gruecd 7,457]

1 hour ago, Juxtatarot said:

Will Zach LaVine make the All-Star team? 

Zach Lowe put him in a group of 7 guys (Middleton, VanVleet, LaVine, Randle, Vucevic, Trae Young, and Jimmy Butler) competing for the final two spots in the East.  He ultimately settled on Randle and LaVine.

#FreeKhris

[STEADYMOBBIN 22 4,249]

45 minutes ago, scoobus said:

It's amazing anyone survived the 80s with all those vicious clotheslines and whatnot.

A lot of players didn’t. 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22 4,249]

42 minutes ago, Frostillicus said:

It's all the mental toughness. 

 

Right, because being mentally tough isn’t a thing. 

[Capella 31,470]

2 minutes ago, STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:

Right, because being mentally tough isn’t a thing. 

He’s won 4 titles and made 10 finals. How is he not mentally tough? Guy is playing 35 minutes plus a game at age 36 or whatever he is. 

[Capella 31,470]

The whole argument against Lebron now is just “I hate Lebron” and doesn’t really have any other reasoning. 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22 4,249]

1 hour ago, Frostillicus said:

1. There are almost no flops in that awesome sweet gotcha video

2. You can make a "flopper" video for just about any player.

1) He flops in every single clip. We can debate if you boy Lebron would be able to overcome what some people call “toxic masculinity”.

 

2) No, you can’t. Also, I thought he didn’t flop?

Edited February 23 by STEADYMOBBIN 22

[Sammy3469 10,327]

i mean if you are going to have a scorching hawt take, at least make it interesting please.  I mean Dame Lilliard is a regression to the mean away from just being average in clutch situations.  Dude's just lucky right now.  

[STEADYMOBBIN 22 4,249]

19 minutes ago, Capella said:

He’s won 4 titles and made 10 finals. How is he not mentally tough? Guy is playing 35 minutes plus a game at age 36 or whatever he is. 

I only stated that if he played in another era- a much more physical era, he would not ever have become the player he has. 
 

I would also argue that he never has nor will he ever reach his true potential. The All-Star game when Lebrron refused to go at Kobe 1v1 twice in a row while Kobe look at lebron sideways for not wanting to compete is a microcosm of what I’m talking about. That moment right there showed me that Lebron not only didn’t know how good he was capable of being, but he didn’t believe it. The hiding out at the three line and things also contribute to my stance. 

I admit I never thought much of Lebron prior to his win with Cleveland. Some will argue that Kyree won that title but I won’t. Kyree sealed the deal but that was the first time I ever saw Lebron take over. He believed and knew that he could take over the game and the series and he FINALLY did it. Unfortunately for him it might have been too late. 
 

So while I still have my issues with Lebron, such as he has ZERO moves and is at heart a facilitator and thereby could never be the best player ever - He is the 3rd most physically dominate player to ever play, behind only Wilt and Shaq. He’s a mix of Magic and Malone with better ups and a 3 pointer. 

Now if you want to argue against me by saying that he’s the best ever because dispite what SteadyMobbin’s and all the other haters (<-people who disagree with your OPINION), say about Lebrons lack of mental toughness he’s still managed to be the best player of this era - you can. 

I don’t hate the guy. In the entire history of the NBA I would only take 10-12 players ahead of him. That isn’t hate, it’s just a more measured opinion. 
 

 

Edited February 23 by STEADYMOBBIN 22

[Leeroy Jenkins 3,055]

3 hours ago, STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:

I would select every one of these guys ahead of Lebron each and every time:

 

Jordan

Wilt

Russell

Bird

Magic

Kareem

Hakim

Kobe

Duncan

Shaq

 

 

 

Jordan 

Lebron

Russell

Wilt

Magic

Kobe

Kareem

Bird

Duncan

Shaq

[Navin Johnson 519]

The posthumous Kobe love is mind boggling.  Like nails on a chalkboard