Zyphros 2,029 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 I'm getting going on prospect evaluation for 2021 and he came up as a guy I need to look into. He's looked incredible this year. Probably a bit early, but I easily see him as a top5 RB of 2021. He's already made my favorites list so this is a guy I'll be hyping everywhere. Listed at 5'10 220, pretty much my perfect sized RB. He's as explosive as any RB in the class, and more so than anyone from 2020. It's between him and Etienne for that title. Discuss 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,630 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Watch: High School Highlight Reel of UNC Star Javonte Williams Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,630 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 UNC Football: Javonte Williams climbing up 2021 NFL Draft Boards (FanSided article with autoplay video) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,630 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Javonte Williams Reminds Phil Longo of DK Metcalf (SI.com article with autoplay video) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,630 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Javonte Williams Making His Case Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,630 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Michael Carter and Javonte Williams Lead Nation in 10+ Yard Runs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kittenmittens 1,352 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Yeah I'm in on this. 4.50 forty reported earlier In career and he wasn't tiny. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IHEARTFF 1,201 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Looks good. Would be a nice late first dynasty pick if he can make it that far. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
strong 112 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 had this guy pegged as my 2nd round RB darling... but each week that's looking more and more like a pipe dream. with hubbard's flaws and gainwell's size, he really is making a case for RB3 in this class. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zyphros 2,029 Posted November 16, 2020 Author Share Posted November 16, 2020 19 hours ago, IHEARTFF said: Looks good. Would be a nice late first dynasty pick if he can make it that far. 42 minutes ago, strong said: had this guy pegged as my 2nd round RB darling... but each week that's looking more and more like a pipe dream. with hubbard's flaws and gainwell's size, he really is making a case for RB3 in this class. There's some whispers already that some fantasy analysts on Twitter are putting him at RB1. And I have to say I don't hate it. If catching and size worry you I can see a scenario that I have him ahead of Etienne and Najee. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,630 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Quote North Carolina junior RB Javonte Williams carried 13 times for 101 yards and a touchdown in a 59-52 victory over Wake Forest this Saturday. Williams (5'10/220) had a relatively quiet day until he came alive in the fourth quarter to help UNC complete the thrilling come from behind victory. With North Carolina up by a touchdown late in the game, Wake Forest was forced to go for it on fourth-and-nine in their own end to keep their hopes alive. Converted quarterback Chazz Surratt sacked Sam Hartman for an 11 yard loss, setting up Williams' game clinching 15-yard touchdown run. It marks the fifth time in his last six games that the junior tailback has rushed for over 100-yards and a touchdown. Nov 14, 2020, 5:47 PM ET Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,630 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Watch: Javonte Williams Pancake Blocks Wake Forest Linebacker Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,630 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 ‘Running over people, it just happens.’ Javonte Williams a tank in UNC blowout (October 24) Why UNC RB Javonte Williams is learning the passing game. ‘I didn’t really know much.’ (October 21) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,630 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Javonte Williams, RB, North Carolina – NFL Draft Player Profile Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,630 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 2021 NFL Draft: Biggest risers of 2020 include BYU QB Zach Wilson, North Carolina RB Javonte Williams Excerpt: Quote Javonte Williams, RB, North Carolina In 2019, Williams amassed 933 yards at 5.6 yards per pop as part of a legitimate timeshare in North Carolina's backfield. His teammate, Michael Carter, ran for over 1,000 as technically the "lead" back. This season, Williams has 1,140 yards on the ground at 7.3 yards per rush on one more carry to date than Carter. He's also scored a gargantuan 19 touchdowns and averaged a hefty 12.2 yards per catch on his 25 grabs. Diving deeper into his quantifiable profile, he's accumulating 4.59 yards after contact on the year, the sixth-highest figure among collegiate backs with at least 75 carries this season. Williams has also forced 83 missed tackles, the most among any FBS player in the country and 15 forced missed tackles clear of No. 2 on the list, Najee Harris from Alabama. Williams has inserted himself into the discussion of top backs in the 2021 class and is now the favorite to be the third runner off the board in April. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Biabreakable 5,179 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) 2020 highlights I am seeing a good variety of skills exhibited in the above clip. He has good footwork and shows patience to set up some of these runs. One of them a defender is very close before he changes direction, pressing the hole and leading to a big play. He seems to have eyes in he back of his head on a couple plays, showing me he understood the defenders leverage and speed to time his cut so the defender will miss the angle from the back side of the play. He also shows good acceleration to hit the crease when its there right away. He runs with good pad level and power to break tackles and gain yards after contact. He has an active stiff arm and can use the off arm to help swim out of tackle attempts. He has good not great change of direction skill. He understands this and plays within himself. Overall my impression of him is that he is a good, not great RB. 2-3rd round NFL pick? eta - I love the spin move. I saw that twice I think. Another tool he has. He looks good as a receiver on both downfield routes and quick flares. Edited January 3 by Biabreakable 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zed2283 610 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 31 minutes ago, Biabreakable said: 2020 highlights He looks great to me in those highlights. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Biabreakable 5,179 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) 3 hours ago, zed2283 said: He looks great to me in those highlights. Well they are highlights. I haven't watched him much yet. Just my initial impression. I know I did get excited about one of his plays. With highlight reels I usually have a few more than that. He does catch the ball well and seems to do everything you want pretty well. I didnt see outstanding elusiveness, which isnt everything, but something I look for. eta - on one of the plays he is getting to the second level and he wants to get to the right side of the field and has trouble changing direction as quickly as he wants to, he is using his off arm to do some swimming type moves to help him keep his balance while cutting to the outside that to me even full speed is somewhat laborious, This is a highlight play and he makes a good gain, but I also see he lacks stiffness in his hips to execute that without needing to grab air to keep his balance. He loses his footing early on in a couple of the early plays that he is able to recover from. One ends up being a long gain, the defense is slow to react to his stumble and it turns into kind of like a kick return run. I don't expect NFL defenders to be so inept. Edited January 3 by Biabreakable 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,630 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 2021 NFL Draft prospect profile: Javonte Williams, RB, North Carolina Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,630 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 2021 NFL Draft: Ranking the top five players at each position Excerpt: Quote Javonte Williams just put together a season the likes of which we’ve not seen before. He broke a ridiculous 75 tackles on only 157 attempts. To put into perspective how insane that is, those 75 broken tackles were six more than any other back last season despite him placing only 19th in total rushing attempts. Alabama's Najee Harris had 95 more carries and still broke fewer tackles. Williams' hard running style at 220 pounds should translate nicely. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zyphros 2,029 Posted January 19 Author Share Posted January 19 My biggest concern about Javonte looking through some stats was that he's been shut down or a not as great game. Now you can chalk that up to a bad game if you want, and I wanted to look a bit closer at his bad games. In 2020 he had 4 games of less than 100 total yards. I re-watched these games and had a few thoughts during each one. Vs. Syracuse - 14 carries, 57 yards and 3 TD's. 1 catch for 22 yards Couldn't find the whole game, or all his touches for this game but I did find the highlights which show his TD runs at least. He had 3 TD runs in this game, 1 he looked very slow and plodded his way in, the other 2 looked very bursty and broke some tackles for some nice inside the 5 yard line runs. Just a ho-hum type of game I imagine but the other games is where the party is. Nothing to be concerned so much here, just an below average outing. Vs. Virginia - 13 carries, 54 yards and 1 TD. 2 catches for 10 yards This is actually my favorite game of his. There's about a 20 second window that gives you the glimpse of my favorite moments from him. There's also multiple other moments which are just super impressive. My favorite moments are from 0:38 - 0:58. The first run is a basic 4 yard run, but he's patient running behind his blocker, explodes to the hole when it opens, and it takes 4 guys to bring him down when there's only 2 blockers. The 2nd run is obvious why it's crazy good. Just watch. The strength is so good and he does it again at 1:25. There's another catch in this game at 3:58 which is just super impressive to me as well. I love this game for Javonte even if the stats aren't incredible. This just gives me more of a safe feeling than anything rather than a concern. Funny enough that same game has my least favorite moment that gives me a red flag for Michael Carter but this isn't about him. Vs. Notre Dame - 11 carries for 28 yards. 2 catches for 10 yards His O-line looked completely dominated and had very little opportunity to do anything. I saw a bunch of good reads that he got whatever he could. Nothing glaring stood out other than slightly slower feet, probably because of the pressure he's faced with no time to get going. Clearly his worst game of 2020. Vs. Western Carolina - 3 carries for 8 yards and 1 TD. 3 catches for 48 yards It's very clear that he was used sparingly in this one. His routes were 2 swing passes out to the flat and 1 out and in over the middle. The out and in was a pretty poor route, but an amazing catch, a better route and that could have been a TD. They were up 35-3 at halftime and played the backups. Not concerned at all about the light workload. Looking back at these games, all it did was quell my concerns. He's my #1 RB for 2021 because of the pass catching, strength, quickness and burst. He has all the tools, built for a feature role, broke out early at 19, and very productive. He'll be 21 in a few months, a year and 2 months younger than Etienne, basically 2 years younger than Harris. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SoBeDad 2,331 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 I didn't see breakaway speed in the videos. Very few backs have it all, maybe Chubb and Barkley. I could see Miami taking him in the 3rd round. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
voiceofunreason 1,064 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 On 1/19/2021 at 11:21 AM, SoBeDad said: I didn't see breakaway speed in the videos. Very few backs have it all, maybe Chubb and Barkley. I could see Miami taking him in the 3rd round. He’s not making it past the 2nd. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kittenmittens 1,352 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 He's going to rise. Seen him mocked at SF 1.04 behind only Najee. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SoBeDad 2,331 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, kittenmittens said: He's going to rise. Seen him mocked at SF 1.04 behind only Najee. Ahead of Travis? FWIW, Tankathon has Javonte 6th. Najee, Travis, Kenneth Gainwell (Memphis), Chuba Hubbard (OkState), Trey Sermon (OSU). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kittenmittens 1,352 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, SoBeDad said: Ahead of Travis? FWIW, Tankathon has Javonte 6th. Najee, Travis, Kenneth Gainwell (Memphis), Chuba Hubbard (OkState), Trey Sermon (OSU). Yes they had him as RB 2 ahead of Etienne. In a superflex dynasty mock not nfl mock To be clear. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wigglytuff's Gruff 31 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Pittsburgh in the 2nd at pick 55. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SoBeDad 2,331 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 hours ago, Wigglytuff's Gruff said: Pittsburgh in the 2nd at pick 55. J.K. Dobbins went to the Ravens with pick 55 in the 2020 draft. The Dolphins were ready to select Dobbins with pick 56. I think Dobbins is better than Javonte, but each year is different. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Unwrittenlaw 34 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Is it worrisome that he only topped 150 carries per season in college? RBs like those are usually stuck in RBBC situations in the NFL....you know the Michaels/Harris' and the only rare ones I can find are Kamara/Jacobs. Does NC have a really good Oline? because Michael Carter is producing similar number if not better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zamboni 7,405 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) 9 hours ago, Wigglytuff's Gruff said: Pittsburgh in the 2nd at pick 55. If he landed there, he could very well become the 1.01 in many rookie drafts. Edited January 21 by zamboni Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barackdhouse 2,443 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 black star for me please Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,630 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 PFF Ranks UNC's Javonte Williams as the 6th Best Player in College Football Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wigglytuff's Gruff 31 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 15 hours ago, zamboni said: If he landed there, he could very well become the 1.01 in many rookie drafts. Possibly. I'm a Steeler and I'd be looking for excuses not to take whoever landed in Pittsburgh after the season they've just had. They didn't really even try to get the running game going this year, despite having a dominant D and what seemed to be the perfect situation to run the ball. Worst rushing attack in the entire league. James Conner is actually quite a good running back, he's not special, but it's absolutely not for his lack of talent that they were as inept as they were. They didn't even try most of the time. Roethlisberger largely led this offense and he didn't seem particularly interested in getting the run game going, instead choosing to pass the ball on average 42 times a game (highest in the league). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zamboni 7,405 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) 5 hours ago, Wigglytuff's Gruff said: Possibly. I'm a Steeler and I'd be looking for excuses not to take whoever landed in Pittsburgh after the season they've just had. They didn't really even try to get the running game going this year, despite having a dominant D and what seemed to be the perfect situation to run the ball. Worst rushing attack in the entire league. James Conner is actually quite a good running back, he's not special, but it's absolutely not for his lack of talent that they were as inept as they were. They didn't even try most of the time. Roethlisberger largely led this offense and he didn't seem particularly interested in getting the run game going, instead choosing to pass the ball on average 42 times a game (highest in the league). Agreed on all accounts. I think Tomlin will do everything he can to revitalize the running game, as it seems to be his identity. Which is why I'm bullish on the Steelers feature RB role. Edited January 22 by zamboni Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,630 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Daniel Jeremiah's top 50: 2021 NFL Draft prospect rankings 1.0 Excerpt: Quote 34) Javonte Williams, RB School: North Carolina | Year: Junior Williams is a thick, compact running back with outstanding vision, power and quickness. He is quick to find/attack the hole with a bounce in his step on inside runs. He has tremendous lateral quickness to make defenders miss in tight quarters. He runs with a low pad level and accelerates through contact. Williams has the burst to get the edge on outside runs and he's elusive once he gets into the open field. He is effective as a checkdown option in the passing game and flashes some route polish on angle routes in the middle of the field. He has reliable hands, although you will see some double catches. He is aware in pass protection and can squat and absorb blitzers. Overall, Williams is a complete player and could emerge as the best running back in the 2021 class. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,630 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 [WATCH] Fantasy Football Rookie Profile Javonte Williams 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gatorman 125 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 See him as Miami’s pick with their second one in the second round assuming they don’t go with najee or Travis e... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Edgar 272 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 I can't get enough of him. He's gonna be a star 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blick 1,248 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 I am really having a hard time rectifying the fact that Michael Carter played as well as Javonte Williams (notwithstanding the TDs). Here's the stats: Williams Rushing - 157 att, 1140 yards, 19 TDs Receiving - 25 rec, 305 yards, 3 TDs Carter Rushing - 156 att, 1245 yards, 9 TDs Receiving - 25 rec, 267 yard, 2 TDs Either Carter is a "special" player in his own right, or these stats are very much systems based. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockaction 26,180 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 8 minutes ago, Blick said: I am really having a hard time rectifying the fact that Michael Carter played as well as Javonte Williams (notwithstanding the TDs). Here's the stats: Williams Rushing - 157 att, 1140 yards, 19 TDs Receiving - 25 rec, 305 yards, 3 TDs Carter Rushing - 156 att, 1245 yards, 9 TDs Receiving - 25 rec, 267 yard, 2 TDs Either Carter is a "special" player in his own right, or these stats are very much systems based. Carter was getting raves at the Senior Bowl and saw his stock skyrocket a bit. Probably by a round or so, if what I'm reading is correct. Waldman did a segment on him recently which you can probably track down (I hate going back through my Twitter feed to find stuff). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MAC_32 12,802 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 1 hour ago, Blick said: I am really having a hard time rectifying the fact that Michael Carter played as well as Javonte Williams (notwithstanding the TDs). Here's the stats: Williams Rushing - 157 att, 1140 yards, 19 TDs Receiving - 25 rec, 305 yards, 3 TDs Carter Rushing - 156 att, 1245 yards, 9 TDs Receiving - 25 rec, 267 yard, 2 TDs Either Carter is a "special" player in his own right, or these stats are very much systems based. Sure, it's a projection, but Williams checks all of the NFL prototype 3 down RB boxes. Will it translate is the only question. Legit question though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SoBeDad 2,331 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 He's been moving up the tankathon draft board. A few weeks ago he wasn't in the top 3 rounds. Then he was projected at 3.18 (Mia), then 3.04 (Atl). Now he's 3.03 (Hou), the 3rd RB off the board. He shows good hands as a receiver, but does he know how to run routes? He breaks tackles, but lacks speed on tape. I prefer Etienne, who might go late first, or early 2nd. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyU 4,346 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 I prefer him over Etienne. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FreeBaGeL 9,330 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 (edited) 9 hours ago, Blick said: I am really having a hard time rectifying the fact that Michael Carter played as well as Javonte Williams (notwithstanding the TDs). Here's the stats: Williams Rushing - 157 att, 1140 yards, 19 TDs Receiving - 25 rec, 305 yards, 3 TDs Carter Rushing - 156 att, 1245 yards, 9 TDs Receiving - 25 rec, 267 yard, 2 TDs Either Carter is a "special" player in his own right, or these stats are very much systems based. It's a fair concern, but it does happen sometimes where college production relative to each other doesn't match up to NFL potential or production. Laurence Maroney outplayed Marion Barber at Minnesota, for instance. And Miles Sanders had almost identical rushing stats to Saquon Barkley at Penn State after he took over. Edited February 11 by FreeBaGeL 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,630 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Falcons: Javonte Williams could be the most valuable running back in the 2021 NFL Draft Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,630 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Quote PFF Draft @PFF_College Javonte Williams rushed for a first down or touchdown on 45.9% of his carries (Most in CFB) 💥 https://twitter.com/pff_college/status/1360695242744205312?s=21 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyU 4,346 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 (edited) On 2/10/2021 at 9:58 PM, FreeBaGeL said: It's a fair concern, but it does happen sometimes where college production relative to each other doesn't match up to NFL potential or production. Laurence Maroney outplayed Marion Barber at Minnesota, for instance. And Miles Sanders had almost identical rushing stats to Saquon Barkley at Penn State after he took over. Lydell Mitchell and Franco Harris at Penn St. Both were good pros. Edited February 14 by JohnnyU Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,630 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Javonte Williams - Running Back North Carolina Tar Heels Scouting Report Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockaction 26,180 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 This guy's stock keeps going up, even in comparison to Harris and Etienne, if my Twitter feed is to be believed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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