The General
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January 6th - what will happen? (7 Viewers)
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parasaurolophus
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This is kinda cute from the guy that started a discussion with a premeditated murder comment and an incorrect statement about what was actually said in the case regarding rittenhouse.
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
I am not defending anybody. I am criticizing the tribune and sho for posting it. That piece is a journalistic turd.
They are quoting an unnamed source identifying unnamed people that said an undisclosed thing.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Probably because there is still investigation of what is going on (as it states in the article...someone who was briefed on the investigation...doubt they are briefing janitors)...still cases that will need to be tried against certain people. Still arrests being made. So yeah, you are going to get unnamed sources about an unnamed person. What they said is almost irrelevant at this point as the point was more that they communicated at all. Someone of an extremist group, communicating with someone inside the WH is a bad look. Especially preceding what happened that day.
The article, nor I, have opined that anything was coordinated between the group and the WH.
But was interesting that travel among the Proud Boys was coordinated with each other and the plan to disrupt (sort of showing this was premeditated)...and contacts between several extremist groups and Roger Stone is also a very bad look for Trump.
Its an interesting piece that added information...and more will come as the investigation goes further and more arrests are made.
What exactly is BS? Did you not know the Rittenhouse worked as a lifeguard in Kenosha? That is his turf, despite living just across the state border. The forum is oblivious to facts that are not fed to them by the MSM and eats up their spin. Rittenhouse is a local. The people he shot, not so much. Two of the victims travelled further than Rittenhouse.
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dawgtrails
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He didn't work at the Y in Kenosha. He worked part time at the Y in Lindenhurst, IL (over 20 miles away from Kenosha), and hadn't worked there since March.
dawgtrails
Footballguy
Hmm, other sites only had his stint as a lifeguard in IL. My bad
General Malaise
Footballguy
General Malaise
Footballguy
The left loves this Guy: A meth head with a 10-year long prison record. Recently again convicted of beating a woman (body slammed her to the ground causing her to bleed profusely) and was just released from jail after spending three weeks there and then checked into a mental facility. Released earlier than day, he joined the rioters that night. He proceeding to verbally assault people protecting businesses, and then pushed a flaming dumpster towards a gas station before he was stopped. He was filmed wielding a chain just moments before he started screaming at a 17-year old kid and then chasing him full speed in a violent pursuit. Of course this psychopath had no bad intentions and the 17-year old kid had no reason to be scared. The kid was obviously a mass-shooter who should be put away for the rest of his life.
In a million years, I could never buy into the left's narrative on this case. It is utterly ridiculous.
In a million years, I could never buy into the left's narrative on this case. It is utterly ridiculous.
squistion
Footballguy
the rover
Footballguy
People can be against both violent riots and vigilante murder. Find an example of anyone on the “left” that loves this guy. Or are you just making things up again?
squistion
Footballguy
Apparently. Earlier he claimed Kyle Rittenhouse lived in Kenosha at the time of the killings, which was false, it is well documented that his residence was in Antioch Illinois.
The General
Footballguy
He did not live there. Should anyone who lives 20 miles from where a crazy protest is going to occur show up armed to play Batman vigilante? Should pro-government guy shown up on Jan 6th and started picking off those nuts rioting?
Side note, if a person lives more than 5 miles from their place of employment, they’re not a local, they’re a commuter. Case in point, I’ve lived in the same spot for the past 10 years, and various jobs have had me travel anywhere from 10-50 miles away. I’m not local to those places, I’m a visitor. Same case with this guy.
You have two completely different set of standards you jidge people by. Sorry i can't help you.
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It was self-defense. The way the left falsely frames the story is criminal. This pyschopath was charging at him full steam like a raging maniac.
The General
Footballguy
Time spent in a location also matters. The average worker spends a third of the day in their place of work, and little more. They also tend to not wander away from work except maybe for lunch, and even then, that’s for an hour at most. Attempt at derailing this aside, how would I(to use an example) be considered a local in Vero Beach, a place 50 miles from my home, and where I don’t go anywhere else except to and from work?
Mr.Pack
Footballguy
You're right.
How does that relate to thinking an unnamed source is being fact based?
the rover
Footballguy
You just said people on the left love the guy. Your response is to repeat Lin Wood’s story of self defense. Where are the facts of “the left loves this guy”? Seems to me you just can’t help digging deeper and deeper holes based on lies.
He volunteered there that day cleaning graffiti off the walls of a school. The town he lives on literally has a border on the state line. You cross the street you are in Wisconsin. It is just odd that Rittenhous lives closer than two of the people he shot, but is the only one people lable as an outsider. The only one more 'local' was the first guy, who was homeless and had been in prison and a mental hospital for the month prior. Before that he was living out of motels and a tent.
I am not repeating anyone's story. I have watched various video's of the timeline and can only see one logical conclusion. It was self-defense in all three cases.
The General
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Who is saying those dudes weren’t outsiders, who thinks they should have been there with guns?
Who thinks it’s a good idea to go into this situation and play like you’re a cop?
I see nothing that qualifies him as a local. This is like saying someone in West Palm is local to Jupiter, which is clearly not the case. He was an outsider who came in to cause trouble under the guise of keeping the peace.
the rover
Footballguy
Journalists often cite unnamed sources. Consumers of information need to be able to use their own discernment as to the reliability of the reporter and the publication. In this case, the publication has a strong reputation as a conservative news outlet, and other than one embarrassing incident involving a fake Pulitzer Prize winning story about 10 years ago, it has a stellar reputation. Rejecting valid information based solely on your personal agenda is cognitive dissonance.
the rover
Footballguy
Guy loads up on guns and ammo to go “defend” a random gas station in another city. Gets told by police to leave so he goes and “defends” another random gas station. Breaks a curfew imposed to prevent violence like this. Then he shoots and kills people. He did exactly what he was there to do, and he got charged accordingly.
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The General
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I tend to agree.
At the very least no one should think it’s a good idea for this kid, or anyone, to insert himself into this and play cop.
Months later he’s hanging with Proud Boys and flashing their little white power sign in pics.
This kid is horribly lost.
the rover
Footballguy
You don’t understand the laws relating to first degree murder or self defense and have clearly demonstrated it multiple times in the last few pages.
The General
Footballguy
The dude from West Hollywood shouldn’t be rolling into Brentwood heavily armed playing cop to protect a gas station or whatever. So ridiculously stupid and unnecessary.
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moleculo
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General Malaise
Footballguy
Okay, you do not have a law degree. What is your college degree in and where did you graduate from?
General Malaise
Footballguy
So this Kyle Rittenhouse is also on film punching a girl? https://nypost.com/2020/09/01/video-shows-kenosha-shooter-kyle-rittenhouse-punching-a-girl-report/
Murderer. Girl abuser.
Death penalty, imo.
Murderer. Girl abuser.
Death penalty, imo.
One guy was screaming at him running at him like a madman, another hit him across the head with a skateboard, and third third had a loaded handgun and was about a half second away from killing him. Not sure by what law those are not self-defense. He will either be found not guilty or have a hung jury if the prosecution can get a few gun-hating anti-self defense leftists in the jury. This is about as clear of a case of self-defense as they come.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Nope. Kid gonna fry before he punches another girl or murders another human. Buh bye, Kyle.
the rover
Footballguy
No, it isn’t. As usual, you just don’t know what you’re talking about. There was no deadly force used against him, so he had no justification to murder these people. Wisconsin is not a “stand your ground state.” Lin Wood, notable liar and unethical lawyer, is the architect of this self-defense argument. As you’ve been told, the court has determined there is probable cause for first degree murder charges, so your claim that this is intentional homicide is “delusional” is flat wrong. His actions don’t meet the requirement of using deadly force for self defense. He went there (breaking two laws to do so) ready to shoot people and he did what he intended. You are defending murder because it fits your political agenda. Your facts are wrong and your understanding of the law is wrong, and you’ve shown that clearly over pages of uniformed posts.
root for this murderer all you want. It doesn’t change anything.
the rover
Footballguy
You seem to be making up laws. The law in Wisconsin is Rittenhouse had to “reasonably believe that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm.” No where does it require thst deadly force was used against him. That would be a really dumb rule as you would be dead before you could defend yourself.
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FairWarning
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What really could have led to a lot more info, Amazon shouldn't have kicked Parlor off their servers. The feds could have got involved on that forum, and these people were freely sharing info.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Find it interesting that you are defending a guy that beats up girls.
Have Rover (an actual lawyer) draft up terms of our bet and make it $200.
May this kid rot in the sort of prison that is unkind to girl beaters.
FairWarning
Footballguy
I don't know all of the facts in his particular case. He was basically in a riot situation, wondering if they are using him as the whipping boy here.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Ummm how is it being an unnamed source meaning they aren’t reporting facts? Do you believe they made up the source and the information?
The General
Footballguy
Back to a question from earlier. If Rittenhouse, or some other play cop, showed up at the Capitol who would they have been shooting?
General Malaise
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