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21 hours ago, zamboni said:

We’ll have to agree to disagree on that. Point is a lot of us invest a lot of time in these threads and like the element of surprise, even if some may not be that much of a surprise. 
Assuming I can pull it together, my next 100 won’t be as obvious.

I should point out I was not trying to diminish Tim's efforts in this thread or others like it with my post. Music has always been an integral part of my life and I love taking the trips down memory lane that these threads take me on.

I associate music with the events that happened in my life at that time, so the memories come flooding back when I read about the songs and listen to them.

Hats off to Tim (and the others) for the time and effort they take to make these threads and put up with the griping (and support) that results from their choices.

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86. The Kinks “Destroyer” (from Give the People What They Want)  https://youtu.be/_WJ6FbcWYRU The Kinks were actually a pretty good 80s band, as Ray Davies still had some songwriting chops l

67. Journey “Stone In Love” (from Escape)  https://youtu.be/kFqXFE8OSG4 Sorry @wikkidpissah there’s going to be a few more standard type rockers coming up here. What can I say? They were big i

44. Stevie Nicks and Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers “Stop Draggin’ My Heart Around” (from Bella Donna)  https://youtu.be/H5i7j0VhEHw The music to this song was written by Mike Campbell (l

27 minutes ago, Encyclopedia Brown said:

A woman I work with went to a concert where a seventy year old Rick ...

:(

Not going to spotlight artists ... but there were legacy artists around this time who were making comebacks or who never stopped making new records. On his popular countdown program Casey Kasem would talk about what they had done in the 1960s and 70s and that so -and-so was, say, "43 years old" or something like that. And I'd think to myself "43! That dude is ancient, sheesh!"

Heck, in 1981, Ray Davies was still a pup of 37.

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32 minutes ago, Encyclopedia Brown said:

A woman I work with went to a concert where a seventy year old Rick blasted out Jessie's Girl and a few weeks later she went and saw a seventy-five year old Peter Cetera belt out Glory of Love. 

At first I was thinking no way on the ages.  Then I was depressed because damn I'm old.

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1 hour ago, zamboni said:

That mirror in the video never stood a chance with wifebeater-clad Rick and his guitar. 

The breaking mirror seemed to be a heavily used move in 80's videos.

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50 minutes ago, Encyclopedia Brown said:

A woman I work with went to a concert where a seventy year old Rick blasted out Jessie's Girl and a few weeks later she went and saw a seventy-five year old Peter Cetera belt out Glory of Love. 

She said both guys brought the house down, that the crowd went absolutely nuts each time. 

He has made a nice little chunk of change doing the casino tours.  He's been to the local joint a couple of times and both sold out fast.  

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4 hours ago, HellToupee said:

This was a song I liked them, although couldn’t publicly admit it, and like now

He was also a guy that many of us wish we could be back then, but couldn’t publicly admit it. 

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18 minutes ago, northern exposure said:
1 hour ago, zamboni said:

That mirror in the video never stood a chance with wifebeater-clad Rick and his guitar. 

The breaking mirror seemed to be a heavily used move in 80's videos.

Dramatic and cheap. Lots of narrative bang for the buck.

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1 hour ago, zamboni said:

He was also a guy that many of wish we could be back then, but couldn’t publicly admit it. 

Things didn't work out so well for him on Battlestar Galactica. Take that Springfield!

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2 hours ago, HellToupee said:

I don’t know about anyone else but whenever I hear Jessie’s Girl I think of Boogie Nights. 

You and me both.  It is impossible for me not think of that scene when this song comes on somewhere (I never turn it on on purpose). 

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7 hours ago, timschochet said:

63. The Greg Kihn Band “The Break Up Song (They Don’t Write ‘Em)” (from RocKihnRoll)

https://youtu.be/VLFfSDEA26o

I’m, er, proud to say that the Greg Kihn Band played at my high school Grad Nite party at Disneyland, along with Berlin. 
I like this song, I’m guessing some around here will hate it. Oh well. I also think there should be a special award given for the worst album titles of all time, and the Greg Kihn Band  should win this award: 

RocKihnRoll

Kihntagious

Kihnspiracy 

 

 

 

 

3 hours ago, timschochet said:

62. Rick Springfield “Jessie’s Girl” (from Working Class Dog

https://youtu.be/qYkbTyHXwbs

If you weren’t pining for Jenny in 1981, perhaps you were looking for Jessie’s girl- though who knows? Maybe it was the same girl (who later became Stacy’s mom?) Rick really isn’t much of a good friend to Jessie here. In fact he’s kind of a jerk. Should have stayed on General Hospital. 

Love these back to back.  12 year old me saw Rick Springfield in concert in Sept of 1982...the opening band?  Greg Kihn Band.  One of my first "rock" concerts.  Great memory.   

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2 hours ago, Doug B said:

:(On his popular countdown program Casey Kasem would talk about what they had done in the 1960s and 70s and that so -and-so was, say, "43 years old" or something like that. And I'd think to myself "43! That dude is ancient, sheesh!"

When We Built This City hit #1, Casey mentioned that Grace Slick was forty-six years old. I thought I had misheard. Grace was not only older than my Mom, but nearly ten years older. My teenage brain could not process this fact. 

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4 hours ago, Binky The Doormat said:

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The odds of anything from the original version of Healing appearing on this countdown = 0%. The single that wasn't initially on the album, < 5%. 

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33 minutes ago, Encyclopedia Brown said:

When We Built This City hit #1, Casey mentioned that Grace Slick was forty-six years old. I thought I had misheard. Grace was not only older than my Mom, but nearly ten years older. My teenage brain could not process this fact. 

She was born in 1939, which might as well have been 939 to my teenage mind. 

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4 minutes ago, Pip&#x27;s Invitation said:

She was born in 1939, which might as well have been 939 to my teenage mind. 

She was already old by the time she joined Jefferson Airplane.

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6 minutes ago, Pip&#x27;s Invitation said:

😆

The odds of anything from the original version of Healing appearing on this countdown = 0%. The single that wasn't initially on the album, < 5%. 

great call - I think the 5% is optimistic.  

I like your enthusiasm.  :hifive:

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61. Stevie Nicks “Edge of Seventeen” (from Bella Donna

https://youtu.be/UmPgMc3R8zg

Stevie delivers a great rocker with an all star cast, including Waddy Wachtel on guitar, Benmont Tench on keyboards, and Russ Kunkel on drums. The title of the song is based on a conversation with Tom Petty’s wife, who revealed that she met Tom at the “age of seventeen”, only in her thick southern drawl it sounded like edge. But the gist of the lyrics are about two deaths: Nick’s uncle and John Lennon. 

In 2020, Stevie Nicks revealed for the first time that she has no idea what a dove actually sounds like. 

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35 minutes ago, Binky The Doormat said:

great call - I think the 5% is optimistic.  

I like your enthusiasm.  :hifive:

< 5%. As in, 4.9% is the absolute ceiling. 

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7 minutes ago, timschochet said:

61. Stevie Nicks “Edge of Seventeen” (from Bella Donna

https://youtu.be/UmPgMc3R8zg

Stevie delivers a great rocker with an all star cast, including Waddy Wachtel on guitar, Benmont Tench on keyboards, and Russ Kunkel on drums. The title of the song is based on a conversation with Tom Petty’s wife, who revealed that she met Tom at the “age of seventeen”, only in her thick southern drawl it sounded like edge. But the gist of the lyrics are about two deaths: Nick’s uncle and John Lennon. 

In 2020, Stevie Nicks revealed for the first time that she has no idea what a dove actually sounds like. 

Oh cool, another track by The Police.

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16 minutes ago, timschochet said:

61. Stevie Nicks “Edge of Seventeen” (from Bella Donna

https://youtu.be/UmPgMc3R8zg

Stevie delivers a great rocker with an all star cast, including Waddy Wachtel on guitar, Benmont Tench on keyboards, and Russ Kunkel on drums. The title of the song is based on a conversation with Tom Petty’s wife, who revealed that she met Tom at the “age of seventeen”, only in her thick southern drawl it sounded like edge. But the gist of the lyrics are about two deaths: Nick’s uncle and John Lennon. 

In 2020, Stevie Nicks revealed for the first time that she has no idea what a dove actually sounds like. 

Turned out that this was way too old for Waddy.

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17 minutes ago, timschochet said:

61. Stevie Nicks “Edge of Seventeen” (from Bella Donna

https://youtu.be/UmPgMc3R8zg

Stevie delivers a great rocker with an all star cast, including Waddy Wachtel on guitar, Benmont Tench on keyboards, and Russ Kunkel on drums. The title of the song is based on a conversation with Tom Petty’s wife, who revealed that she met Tom at the “age of seventeen”, only in her thick southern drawl it sounded like edge. But the gist of the lyrics are about two deaths: Nick’s uncle and John Lennon. 

In 2020, Stevie Nicks revealed for the first time that she has no idea what a dove actually sounds like. 

Love this tune. Doesn't matter how much I've heard it. The guitar makes it work for me...and stevie.

Dug that Greg Kihn song tune too...hadn't heard it in ages.

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25 minutes ago, timschochet said:

61. Stevie Nicks “Edge of Seventeen” (from Bella Donna

https://youtu.be/UmPgMc3R8zg

Stevie delivers a great rocker with an all star cast, including Waddy Wachtel on guitar, Benmont Tench on keyboards, and Russ Kunkel on drums. The title of the song is based on a conversation with Tom Petty’s wife, who revealed that she met Tom at the “age of seventeen”, only in her thick southern drawl it sounded like edge. But the gist of the lyrics are about two deaths: Nick’s uncle and John Lennon. 

In 2020, Stevie Nicks revealed for the first time that she has no idea what a dove actually sounds like. 

It's too bad Prince died. He could tell Stevie what it sounds like when they cry.

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2 minutes ago, northern exposure said:

I seem to remember paint or glitter being put on a drum and when the drummer hit it, it would splash up in the air. I think I saw that a lot.

The video for one of these songs is surely still to come in this countdown.

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I hope everyone can indulge me for a bit here. Hearing all these songs from '81 has brought back a lot of high school memories for me. 

I have been thinking a lot about this song (it is from '84  so safe to mention I think). https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SyMN3IJpdd4

My best friend Trent and I were dating women that were best friends and they were moving to another city.  I was in College so I couldn't leave and join them and Trent was working at his family's business so he couldn't leave either.

We had our last night with the girls at a local club where this band was playing.

They started playing this song and the women turned into a sobbing mess.

Not nearly as interesting as wikkid's trips down memory lane, huh? Lol.

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48 minutes ago, northern exposure said:

I seem to remember paint or glitter being put on a drum and when the drummer hit it, it would splash up in the air. I think I saw that a lot.

In this case it's rain but...You're not wrong...(2:48) 

Better fidelity of the Twisted Sister glitter drum scene. That's the long version that we used to think was the awesome-est thing ever.

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11 minutes ago, Doug B said:
18 minutes ago, Andy Dufresne said:
1 hour ago, northern exposure said:

I seem to remember paint or glitter being put on a drum and when the drummer hit it, it would splash up in the air. I think I saw that a lot.

In this case it's rain but...You're not wrong...(2:48) 

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Better fidelity of the Twisted Sister glitter drum scene. That's the long version that we used to think was the awesome-est thing ever.

Sick, repulsive electric twanger.

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18 minutes ago, Andy Dufresne said:

In this case it's rain but...You're not wrong...(2:48) 

OK I get to tell my Dokken story. I think I’ve told it before here but what the hell. 

When my wife was in college one of her best friends was into hair bands. She was a groupie and she hung around backstage. When she graduated college she moved back to Toronto, her hometown. 
So a couple of years later my wife and I are married, already living in Orange County, when we get this call from Marie, her friend. She’s dating a famous rocker she says and she joined him on tour. They’re coming to Los Angeles but she can’t stay with him so could she visit us for the weekend? This is around 1992 I think. The wife says sure. So Marie comes over and she’s all depressed. Turns out the rocker is Don Dokken. He’s promised Marie he’s going to leave his wife for her, he loves her, etc. But now he tells her, the only way she can prove her love to him is if she’s willing to be in a threesome. Marie is crying “I don’t want to do it!” Then the phone rings, I answer. A low male voice says, “Hi uh I was given this number. Is Marie there? Tell her it’s Don.” I hand her the phone. They get into a yelling match. Marie leaves. We get a postcard from her a couple months later back in Toronto. No mention of Don. Never learned what happened...

Anyhow, that’s the story. 

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10 minutes ago, timschochet said:

OK I get to tell my Dokken story. I think I’ve told it before here but what the hell. 

When my wife was in college one of her best friends was into hair bands. She was a groupie and she hung around backstage. When she graduated college she moved back to Toronto, her hometown. 
So a couple of years later my wife and I are married, already living in Orange County, when we get this call from Marie, her friend. She’s dating a famous rocker she says and she joined him on tour. They’re coming to Los Angeles but she can’t stay with him so could she visit us for the weekend? This is around 1992 I think. The wife says sure. So Marie comes over and she’s all depressed. Turns out the rocker is Don Dokken. He’s promised Marie he’s going to leave his wife for her, he loves her, etc. But now he tells her, the only way she can prove her love to him is if she’s willing to be in a threesome. Marie is crying “I don’t want to do it!” Then the phone rings, I answer. A low male voice says, “Hi uh I was given this number. Is Marie there? Tell her it’s Don.” I hand her the phone. They get into a yelling match. Marie leaves. We get a postcard from her a couple months later back in Toronto. No mention of Don. Never learned what happened...

Anyhow, that’s the story. 

:jawdrop:

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25 minutes ago, timschochet said:

OK I get to tell my Dokken story. I think I’ve told it before here but what the hell. 

When my wife was in college one of her best friends was into hair bands. She was a groupie and she hung around backstage. When she graduated college she moved back to Toronto, her hometown. 
So a couple of years later my wife and I are married, already living in Orange County, when we get this call from Marie, her friend. She’s dating a famous rocker she says and she joined him on tour. They’re coming to Los Angeles but she can’t stay with him so could she visit us for the weekend? This is around 1992 I think. The wife says sure. So Marie comes over and she’s all depressed. Turns out the rocker is Don Dokken. He’s promised Marie he’s going to leave his wife for her, he loves her, etc. But now he tells her, the only way she can prove her love to him is if she’s willing to be in a threesome. Marie is crying “I don’t want to do it!” Then the phone rings, I answer. A low male voice says, “Hi uh I was given this number. Is Marie there? Tell her it’s Don.” I hand her the phone. They get into a yelling match. Marie leaves. We get a postcard from her a couple months later back in Toronto. No mention of Don. Never learned what happened...

Anyhow, that’s the story. 

I think I should go back and delete my story now.

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31 minutes ago, timschochet said:

OK I get to tell my Dokken story. I think I’ve told it before here but what the hell. 

When my wife was in college one of her best friends was into hair bands. She was a groupie and she hung around backstage. When she graduated college she moved back to Toronto, her hometown. 
So a couple of years later my wife and I are married, already living in Orange County, when we get this call from Marie, her friend. She’s dating a famous rocker she says and she joined him on tour. They’re coming to Los Angeles but she can’t stay with him so could she visit us for the weekend? This is around 1992 I think. The wife says sure. So Marie comes over and she’s all depressed. Turns out the rocker is Don Dokken. He’s promised Marie he’s going to leave his wife for her, he loves her, etc. But now he tells her, the only way she can prove her love to him is if she’s willing to be in a threesome. Marie is crying “I don’t want to do it!” Then the phone rings, I answer. A low male voice says, “Hi uh I was given this number. Is Marie there? Tell her it’s Don.” I hand her the phone. They get into a yelling match. Marie leaves. We get a postcard from her a couple months later back in Toronto. No mention of Don. Never learned what happened...

Anyhow, that’s the story. 

So...which of you was to be the third? :confused:

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6 hours ago, Andy Dufresne said:
6 hours ago, timschochet said:

OK I get to tell my Dokken story. I think I’ve told it before here but what the hell. 

When my wife was in college one of her best friends was into hair bands. She was a groupie and she hung around backstage. When she graduated college she moved back to Toronto, her hometown. 
So a couple of years later my wife and I are married, already living in Orange County, when we get this call from Marie, her friend. She’s dating a famous rocker she says and she joined him on tour. They’re coming to Los Angeles but she can’t stay with him so could she visit us for the weekend? This is around 1992 I think. The wife says sure. So Marie comes over and she’s all depressed. Turns out the rocker is Don Dokken. He’s promised Marie he’s going to leave his wife for her, he loves her, etc. But now he tells her, the only way she can prove her love to him is if she’s willing to be in a threesome. Marie is crying “I don’t want to do it!” Then the phone rings, I answer. A low male voice says, “Hi uh I was given this number. Is Marie there? Tell her it’s Don.” I hand her the phone. They get into a yelling match. Marie leaves. We get a postcard from her a couple months later back in Toronto. No mention of Don. Never learned what happened...

Anyhow, that’s the story. 

So...which of you was to be the third? :confused:

I guess the other option would have been getting lynched.

Seriously though, Tim, pretty cool story.

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  • timschochet changed the title to The 100 Greatest Songs of 1981 #60 Fire and Ice
3 minutes ago, Doug B said:
37 minutes ago, timschochet said:

60. Pat Benatar “Fire and Ice” (from Precious Time)

[cheers]

"Neil!"

[/cheers]

Only a matter of time before we saw Pat and Neil.

Red-headed drummer Myron Grombacher is also one of the more underrated guys of his time.

Great name, too. He and Myles Goodwyn of April Wine should go bowling together.

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2 minutes ago, zamboni said:

No idea why she didn't keep her given name Patricia Andrzejewski.

There was most likely someone who already had that stage name and she didn't want any confusion. I mean, can you imagine?

"I LOVE that new artist Patricia Andrzejewski, don't you!?"
"Uh, depends on which one."

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8 minutes ago, Andy Dufresne said:
12 minutes ago, zamboni said:

No idea why she didn't keep her given name Patricia Andrzejewski.

There was most likely someone who already had that stage name and she didn't want any confusion. I mean, can you imagine?

"I LOVE that new artist Patricia Andrzejewski, don't you!?"
"Uh, depends on which one."

Hey, that's why David Bowie changed his name from Davie Jones. Not sure why she should be so different.

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48 minutes ago, zamboni said:

No idea why she didn't keep her given name Patricia Andrzejewski.

All joking aside, it must be odd for the ex-husband. She marries the guy in 1972, they get divorced in 1979. She hits it big and keeps the guy's last name.

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10 minutes ago, northern exposure said:

All joking aside, it must be odd for the ex-husband. She marries the guy in 1972, they get divorced in 1979. She hits it big and keeps the guy's last name.

Her career had already taken off with the name Benatar, so I guess she wanted to keep it for the stage. Maybe at the PTA meetings, she's known as Mrs. Giraldo.

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16 minutes ago, zamboni said:

Her career had already taken off with the name Benatar, so I guess she wanted to keep it for the stage. Maybe at the PTA meetings, she's known as Mrs. Giraldo.

I understand why she kept the name, my point was it would be an odd situation for her ex-husband.

Like checking into a hotel in the 80's.

Clerk: Last name?

Mr. Benatar: Benatar

Clerk: You mean like Pat Benatar? Do you know her? Are you related to her? Is she here???? Does she have a concert tonight? 

Mr. Benatar: NOOO!!!!

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20 minutes ago, northern exposure said:

I understand why she kept the name, my point was it would be an odd situation for her ex-husband.

Like checking into a hotel in the 80's.

Clerk: Last name?

Mr. Benatar: Benatar

Clerk: You mean like Pat Benatar? Do you know her? Are you related to her? Is she here???? Does she have a concert tonight? 

Mr. Benatar: NOOO!!!!

Good point - bad timing for Mr. Benatar to not hold out for another year or two - might have gotten a nice divorce settlement.

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8 minutes ago, Bracie Smathers said:

Great tune.  Great pipes.  Great look.

I think everyone had a huge crush on her in the day.  

Fortunately for us, she made maximum use of that blue leotard in many a video back then.

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