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Loaning a chick money 9/9/16 - Bye (2 Viewers)

For years I never clicked on this thread because I thought it was only about loaning some dumb chick money.

 
Arizona Ron said:
My wife then said she’s tired and is going to bed; she left to her room while I sat on the couch stewing. I had a beer then went up to my room. As I walked into my room, I noticed it was in pristine condition (thanks to Angie I’m guessing) with an unopened pack of cigarettes on the nightstand. I picked up the pack of cigarettes and noticed a small post-it note reading:

welcome home

– Ang :)
Wait, please tell me you don't smoke in your house.....
Never ever smoked in my house. Smoking is gross to begin with; I don't want to smell that #### in my house. I even get non-smoking hotel rooms and smoke outside. This also keeps my from chain smoking.

 
When did footballguys.com turn into relationshipadviceguys.com?

Great story ron.
Armchair shrinks are killing the thread.

 
I have re-read and analyzed every post, discussed it with several PhD's, and have reach a conclusion. Never loan money to a chick.

 
Arizona Ron said:
My wife then said she’s tired and is going to bed; she left to her room while I sat on the couch stewing. I had a beer then went up to my room. As I walked into my room, I noticed it was in pristine condition (thanks to Angie I’m guessing) with an unopened pack of cigarettes on the nightstand. I picked up the pack of cigarettes and noticed a small post-it note reading:

welcome home

– Ang :)
Wait, please tell me you don't smoke in your house.....
Never ever smoked in my house. Smoking is gross to begin with; I don't want to smell that #### in my house. I even get non-smoking hotel rooms and smoke outside. This also keeps my from chain smoking.
Kools?

 
Arizona Ron said:
My wife then said she’s tired and is going to bed; she left to her room while I sat on the couch stewing. I had a beer then went up to my room. As I walked into my room, I noticed it was in pristine condition (thanks to Angie I’m guessing) with an unopened pack of cigarettes on the nightstand. I picked up the pack of cigarettes and noticed a small post-it note reading:

welcome home

– Ang :)
Wait, please tell me you don't smoke in your house.....
Never ever smoked in my house. Smoking is gross to begin with; I don't want to smell that #### in my house. I even get non-smoking hotel rooms and smoke outside. This also keeps my from chain smoking.
Kools?
:lmao: so wrong

 
I’ve eaten enough ####.

A few days of us just 'sharing space' with each other went by. It was weird for all of us but what really got me was my daughter’s attempts to have dinner together or to do something together getting pushed off by my wife. Not to mention, poor Angie was going through my wife saying things to her while I was in the earshot, “why don’t you just ask Ron” (with an attitude) instead of just talking to me.

We can’t live this way. My daughter, above all, shouldn’t have to live this way.

It’s about 6pm, I worked from home that day. Angie showed up with my daughter around the same time as my wife got home when I heard the last, “why don’t you just ask Ron” comment for good.

My daughter was distant from my wife and I; I saw Angie and my daughter looking like being a teen stepsister and little sister around when the parents are fighting. We can’t live this way. I say to Angie:

Me: Angie, please take Daughter out for dinner.
Wife: It’s a school night.
Me: (so everyone could hear) I know it’s a school night. (My tone is not asking, I’m commanding) They’re going out to dinner while we talk. (I give Wife the death stare).

Angie hesitates for a bit while my daughter was remarking how she wants to go eat with excitement. My Wife and I stare at each other with disdain while we wait for Angie and Daughter to drive off. My wife pauses…I’m not sure if she holding back tears or punches. Deep breathes as she fumbles around; I offer her to sit down with me saying I want to talk. She collects herself, pours a glass of wine and sits. The tears start. I didn’t wait for her to talk - I didn’t feel like being the brunt of nonsensical rants of 'what I did wrong', 'what she did wrong' or 'what we both did wrong'.

I just want this #### go away.

Me: Is this how we’re going to live now?
Wife: (nothing)
Me: Us…home…every day with a house full of tension?
Wife: (still nothing)

I lose it, I start saying what I’ll do everything in my power to liquidate every dollar I have until we’re foreclosed. I tell her all the nice things she has will be going while the only people that make money fighting this out in court will be the lawyers. I’m not going to repeat it verbatim but I basically said, I know how to make money and you don’t. I know most of this is not possible depending on when the court gets involved but I’m desperate. It was not a nice conversation:

Wife: You played me!
Me: What?
Wife: Why do you have all these women around the house?
Me: You mean your friends!?!?! (cheap shot, I know)
Wife: (crying)
Me: No more friends around the house. No more public #### by either of us. If we do this, everything else goes away. Also, we need to fix this we Daughter. What you said to her was ####### stupid!

A lot of emotional exchanges took place but it calmed down. My daughter gets back from dinner; Angie says she’s going to get daughter ready for bath time but I insist we talk – I ask Angie to give us a moment.

Me: Daughter, we need to talk with mommy and me (my daughter is an upbeat interested attitude – while smiling).
Daughter: Yes daddy?
Me: I want you to know why I was not home for a few days. I wasn’t working, Mommy and I were mad at each other so I decided to stay at the hotel so we didn’t fight.
Daughter: I know like when I’m at school and kids don’t sit together because they’re fighting sometimes.
Me: Yes, that’s the same thing. We were taking a break. I’m sorry I told you I was staying at the hotel because of work too. I lied to you.
Daughter: It’s okay daddy (she gives me a hug and gives wife a hug - then she tells us both to hold hands and no more fighting "teacher like". There was must more emotion between the two of us thanking Daughter but really no need to express that now).

I’m starting to think she is the only voice of reason in the house.

At this point, I think we're okay.

 
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I have saved my comments until I read that she involved your daughter, and that's complete BS. For that reason alone she should be kicked to the curb. You don't want a "family" you want to be able to see your daughter when you want and not have your wife interfere. Thinkgs are only ok, because your wife realized that if you divorce her, she will end up in a two bedroom #### hole somewhere.

Try for 50/50 custody and do everybody a favor and break this dysfunctional circle.

Last thought, I think girl #3 is innocent. I think she had a good time, enjoyed the good life for a night and went crazy sharing it with her ibuddies. The only thing missing from the updates, is why you never talked to girl #3 again...is it because you finally hit it?

ETA: The relationship with the wife is dysfunctional, not the life style you guys chose. (Not judging)

 
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Ok, ill say it. And everyone who has read this knows im a big ron fan

Do you really think holding money over her head was the best way to mend things

 
Ok, ill say it. And everyone who has read this knows im a big ron fan

Do you really think holding money over her head was the best way to mend things
Things aren't mend-able. His wife left the relationship awhile back. She just hasn't left the lifestyle that goes with it, or went with it.

 
I hate when I sit down to watch porn and it turns out I accidently put on the Notebook.

 
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I think this really hot Asian chick visiting my office from our California office wants to bang... This thread helps me avoid an awesome night followed by a :tfp:

This board is really good therapy, I understand why AR gets #### off his chest here.

Meanwhile I know what I'll be thinking about during the sechs tonight.

 
I think this really hot Asian chick visiting my office from our California office wants to bang... This thread helps me avoid an awesome night followed by a :tfp:

This board is really good therapy, I understand why AR gets #### off his chest here.

Meanwhile I know what I'll be thinking about during the sechs tonight.
Come on man, you could be a legend.

 
I'm a single young man with no kids, so it's probably why I'm not understanding why some many people are hammering wife for telling daughter that daddy wants to be single.

Is it because she vilified Ron to their daughter? The daughter is smart enough to know the truth so I'm not sure wife gained any leverage by saying those things.

 
Any lawyers or anyone with knowledge of Arizona's divorce laws care to weigh in with any insight as to what could happen in the event they get a divorce (marital assets, custody, alimony, etc.)?

 
I'm a single young man with no kids, so it's probably why I'm not understanding why some many people are hammering wife for telling daughter that daddy wants to be single.

Is it because she vilified Ron to their daughter? The daughter is smart enough to know the truth so I'm not sure wife gained any leverage by saying those things.
Pretty sure the daughter is less than 10 years old.
 
Any lawyers or anyone with knowledge of Arizona's divorce laws care to weigh in with any insight as to what could happen in the event they get a divorce (marital assets, custody, alimony, etc.)?
Does Arizona Ron really live in Arizona? Because according to their site, there are no McCormick & Schmick's in the state of Arizona.

 
Any lawyers or anyone with knowledge of Arizona's divorce laws care to weigh in with any insight as to what could happen in the event they get a divorce (marital assets, custody, alimony, etc.)?
Does Arizona Ron really live in Arizona? Because according to their site, there are no McCormick & Schmick's in the state of Arizona.
His real name is Herb Schwartz and he lives in Boca Raton, FL.
 
Any lawyers or anyone with knowledge of Arizona's divorce laws care to weigh in with any insight as to what could happen in the event they get a divorce (marital assets, custody, alimony, etc.)?
He doesn't actually live in AZ
ROTFLMAO!!!

Seriously? All this time I thought he was living large in Arizona. Bag over my head. :bag:

Next thing you are probably going to tell me is that Cal Worthington (Long Beach, CA Ford Dealership) never said: "##### cow, ##### cow, ##### cow" and that he was actually saying "Come see Cal!"

 
Any lawyers or anyone with knowledge of Arizona's divorce laws care to weigh in with any insight as to what could happen in the event they get a divorce (marital assets, custody, alimony, etc.)?
I don't know about AZ, but where I live holding finances over your spouse's head is not advisable prior to any legal separation. I hope that doesn't come back to bite Ron.

 
Guys, I don't post for "likes" or for your entertainment. I post for my own personal therapy. Sure I could write a journal and keep it in a safe but the feedback helps me put things into perspective.
brohans some peoples personal therapy is whiny and depressing but yours is the stuff dreams are made of and you can take that to the bank brohans
Leave this shtick to the professionals, 'kay? TIA
 
Arizona Ron said:
My wife then said she’s tired and is going to bed; she left to her room while I sat on the couch stewing. I had a beer then went up to my room. As I walked into my room, I noticed it was in pristine condition (thanks to Angie I’m guessing) with an unopened pack of cigarettes on the nightstand. I picked up the pack of cigarettes and noticed a small post-it note reading:

welcome home

– Ang :)
Wait, please tell me you don't smoke in your house.....
Never ever smoked in my house. Smoking is gross to begin with; I don't want to smell that #### in my house. I even get non-smoking hotel rooms and smoke outside. This also keeps my from chain smoking.
Kools?
Newports, imo.

 
Ill probably get railed by some of you for this post.

Fwiw, I think Ron played it probably about as well as you could. The odd thing about the current dynamic is that our superhero has presented himself as this ballin', suave, player! He is the man. And somewhere along the lines he got cuckolded by his wife. Pretty crazy twist in my estimation.

While there is obviously enough blame to go around here...I am of the opinion that Ron has been trying to push the boundaries of this relationship to its breaking point for some time. Perhaps, subconsciously he has wanted this thing to explode for some time and doesn't really know how or have the power to end this once and for all.

He has repeatedly stated that his life isn't all that great or that he would love to trade it for normalcy, etc. But, he refuses to take any action to change the course of the relationship. Instead, of slowing down, looking at the map and deciding the proper course, Ron would rather turn the music to 11, unbuckle the seat belt, roll the windows down and fly down the freeway at 120 mph without a care in the world.

Yeah, his wife has issues. But, all of us plainly/clearly see that Ron ####ed up when he allowed this girl to attend a work event and wear her sentimental jewelry no less. One of the most idiotic things i have read on here.

Here is a pro tip. If your wife is letting you bang other chicks, you should probably do everything in your power to protect/preserve the wife's place as the number one alpha female. Undermining this role was your undoing. And now she is butt hurt and playing these games with your daughter and undermining your role/standing with her.

Maybe he can pull this out and fix it, but at this point I am thinking things are probably beyond repair here. You might be able to continue living under the same roof and coexist for a while. But, any notion that you guys are a family is over and I am sure others more critical of Ron would laugh and suggest that it was over a long, long time ago.

Though I will continue to read this thread, the appeal of this story changed dramatically when I read that a little girl no longer got to see her dad because he was kicked out of the house and was subsequently told that her dad would rather be with other people than her by her mother. Thanks to the mom, the daughter's reality at this moment (though she hasn't quite processed it or understands it) is that dad would rather spend time with other people than me, than with mom, than with us.

Ron's wife is a witch for doing that...but that is the reality of the situation and whether or not it is fair to Ron is irrelevant.

I hope I am wrong and Ron can save the day, reunite the family, live happily ever after, etc.
Spot. On.

Kudos!

 
The psychology of what is going on here seems pretty straightforward. Ron's wife is more attracted to other woman than him. She has attempted to make him okay with that by allowing him to be with other woman, initially when she was involved but that seems to be few

and far between lately. Ron feel inadequate and attempts to make up for these feelings by banging everything in site. He seems to enjoy the acts themselves but ultimately feels hollow because the one woman he truly wants to be

attracted to him isn't because she like woman. He flaunts the fact that other woman are attracted to him in an attempt to get attention from his wife even if it is negative attention.
 

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