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Family Matters
Footballguy
Let it go. Nobody cares anymore. The media is looking for headline material to boost ratings. They don't really care what he says. Don't get caught up in the hype. 
flapgreen
Footballguy
Traditionally, I've been a T.O. hater but my views have began to change recently. T.O. is kinda of like Mike Tyson to me. I've never liked either of them but I just can't wait to see what they do next. It's great. Just when you think they couldn't be any dumber, they surprise with something else. I love it. Keep it up T.O. 
JohnnyU
Footballguy
My guess is that if TO does that again to McNabb on the sidelines, Donavan is likely to give him a good shove or WORSE 
I've never seen an athlete grandstand more than TO since Muhammad Ali. At least with Ali we knew it was a show. With TO, he's just an idiot.
I've never seen an athlete grandstand more than TO since Muhammad Ali. At least with Ali we knew it was a show. With TO, he's just an idiot.
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4thAndForever
Footballguy
I hate to defend TO, but Tom Jackson is the same guy who claimed that the Patriots hate their coach.
JAA
Footballguy
JU,I value your posts on this board. I dont understand where all this blind hate for TO comes. Are you a slighted ravens fan?My guess is that if TO does that again to McNabb on the sidelines, Donavan is likely to give him a good shove or WORSE
gump
Footballguy
Everyone in this world is different, and TO has every right to be himself. But when it comes down to who leaves the bigger legacy from the NFL, a flamboyant, spectacular athlete like TO or a spectacular athlete who is also a leader on and off the field like Ozzie Newsome, Oz wins hands down.
Wheelhouse
Footballguy
TO needs to accept the fact that his team was taken to the woodshed. He was disappointed because Donovan couldn't find him on certain patterns, or he underthrew him or he looked to the outlet pass instead of him. He needs to lose with the team just as he wins with the team. To be in McNabb's grill on the sidelines like that, pleading for the ball, when all McNabb is trying to do is run for his life reminds me oh too much of the following....1. Michael Irvin2. Keyshawn Johnson(funny how Dallas has a tie to those two clowns)Chad Johnson is getting that way - hopefully Marvin Lewis will set him straight. Andy Reid said he doesn't mind TO's antics as long as it doesn't get the team a 15-yd penalty. Let me ask you this - when should he start minding, because if he allows this to continue, it will affect the team.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Actually, I just traded for TOJU,I value your posts on this board. I dont understand where all this blind hate for TO comes. Are you a slighted ravens fan?My guess is that if TO does that again to McNabb on the sidelines, Donavan is likely to give him a good shove or WORSE
and I'm a Colts fan, not a Ravens fan.I don't hate him, I just think McNabb should have punched him in the mouth when TO was jawing with him on the sidelines. Who does Owens think he is, that he can say whatever pops into that pea brain of his? Can you or I go to work and speak our minds completely? Hell no we can't if we expect to keep our jobs. Common sense and your brain should rule over your mouth.
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Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Owens had has suffered from a inferiority complex since he was very young, he even admitted it. That being said the behavior is to try and boost your self image through grandstanding and the constant need to fuel his attention needs! TO is getting like Rodman..is was kind of funny at first, but it is getting real old fast!
Mungo Burrows
Footballguy
I never really paid much attention to the guy when he was in SF. Did he always make so many negative personal comments on some very politically incorrect subjects about other people, or is that a new thing?We've had the Garcia "Rat" discussion, Ozzie Newsome and the "black man from Alabama" comments, now he says Jackson is "Uncle Tom." Has he always crossed the line on these types of subjects, or is it a recent addition to the TO shtick?
Canuckleheads
Footballguy
...and that is a sad statement.A guy blessed with so much talent and cursed with some real emotional issues.There are two things you don't need a medical degree to determine - dead and crazy. TO is crazy.
Sack-Religious.
Footballguy
So one of TO's reasons for not going to the Ravens was because of Ozzie Newsome's "racist" comments. Then TO goes ahead and calls Tom Jackson an "Uncle Tom" Pardon the pun but 
suchislife
Footballguy
Doesn't Randy Moss yell at CPep a lot? Don't remember so much media hype over that. Besides, its not like TO shoved McNabb or anything. Didn't that blow over pretty quick in Indy?The name "Owens" just draws so much more attention.Actually, I just traded for TOJU,I value your posts on this board. I dont understand where all this blind hate for TO comes. Are you a slighted ravens fan?My guess is that if TO does that again to McNabb on the sidelines, Donavan is likely to give him a good shove or WORSE
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
Best to be silent and thought possibly stupid than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
Franknbeans
Footballguy
TO will come out of the closet once his career is over
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I'm not making public comments that certain individuals are "gay" or calling them "Uncle Tom". If I did, then it would be reasonable for some to think I was a racist or a bigot. What part of that don't you understand?Then whats the point of the fact? Some might say the same thing about you? Im not saying that, but some might...Not a fishing trip at all. I'm just stating a fact.
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He makes a good pointI'm not making public comments that certain individuals are "gay" or calling them "Uncle Tom". If I did, then it would be reasonable for some to think I was a racist or a bigot.Then whats the point of the fact? Some might say the same thing about you? Im not saying that, but some might...Not a fishing trip at all. I'm just stating a fact.
Gamblor
Footballguy
My point is that "Some" could say anything about anyone. If you are saying it thats one thing, if you are suggesting someone else is saying it is one thing. To say that "some" could say that is saying nothing.I'm not making public comments that certain individuals are "gay" or calling them "Uncle Tom". If I did, then it would be reasonable for some to think I was a racist or a bigot. What part of that don't you understand?Then whats the point of the fact? Some might say the same thing about you? Im not saying that, but some might...Not a fishing trip at all. I'm just stating a fact.
cobalt_27
Footballguy
Precisely. Many people think it, and I will say it: T.O. is a bigot and a racist. I think he's actually getting a pass on his comments for reasons that are probably better explicated in another discussion.Nonetheless, his comments have certainly been appauling, whether he's "just playin'" or whether he actually means them (and, I think it's a slam dunk that it's the latter). Let us not confuse the issue of "free speech" with the fact that most folks think he's an a-whole*. He's more than free to say whatever he wants. He just doesn't understand or recognize that the balance of reasonable people are also free to be critical of and look down on him for what he says.*Edited to take care of the "whole" language issue.I'm not making public comments that certain individuals are "gay" or calling them "Uncle Tom". If I did, then it would be reasonable for some to think I was a racist or a bigot. What part of that don't you understand?Then whats the point of the fact? Some might say the same thing about you? Im not saying that, but some might...Not a fishing trip at all. I'm just stating a fact.
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JohnnyU
Footballguy
Your not making good arguments. Read your posts againMy point is that "Some" could say anything about anyone. If you are saying it thats one thing, if you are suggesting someone else is saying it is one thing. To say that "some" could say that is saying nothing.I'm not making public comments that certain individuals are "gay" or calling them "Uncle Tom". If I did, then it would be reasonable for some to think I was a racist or a bigot. What part of that don't you understand?Then whats the point of the fact? Some might say the same thing about you? Im not saying that, but some might...Not a fishing trip at all. I'm just stating a fact.
cobalt_27
Footballguy
And, if you had any comment by Johnny U where you could point out his racism or bigotry, you'd be justified in calling him such. But, since you don't, you wouldn't have a leg to stand on to label him a racist or a bigot. We have more than a handful of T.O. comments on record that clearly demonstrate that he is both.My point is that "Some" could say anything about anyone. If you are saying it thats one thing, if you are suggesting someone else is saying it is one thing. To say that "some" could say that is saying nothing.I'm not making public comments that certain individuals are "gay" or calling them "Uncle Tom". If I did, then it would be reasonable for some to think I was a racist or a bigot. What part of that don't you understand?Then whats the point of the fact? Some might say the same thing about you? Im not saying that, but some might...Not a fishing trip at all. I'm just stating a fact.
Gamblor
Footballguy
Who said anything about having a leg to stand on? I just said "some" could say anything about anyone? I do not believe that Johnny is a racist or a bigot. I did say that "some" could say that about him. They would not be justified in that statement. But they could still say it. I dont see what is so hard to understand here?And, if you had any comment by Johnny U where you could point out his racism or bigotry, you'd be justified in calling him such. But, since you don't, you wouldn't have a leg to stand on to label him a racist or a bigot. We have more than a handful of T.O. comments on record that clearly demonstrate that he is both.My point is that "Some" could say anything about anyone. If you are saying it thats one thing, if you are suggesting someone else is saying it is one thing. To say that "some" could say that is saying nothing.I'm not making public comments that certain individuals are "gay" or calling them "Uncle Tom". If I did, then it would be reasonable for some to think I was a racist or a bigot. What part of that don't you understand?Then whats the point of the fact? Some might say the same thing about you? Im not saying that, but some might...Not a fishing trip at all. I'm just stating a fact.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Ok, I'll give in and say you are right that anyone could say anything about anyone, ok? However, if I know for a fact that someone calls another guy "gay" or another "Uncle Tom", it is not unreasonable to think of that person as a racist or bigot. If one person calls another person a racist or bigot without ever hearing him say a racist or bigot remark, then I would have to say their comments are unreasonable to the normal person.Who said anything about having a leg to stand on? I just said "some" could say anything about anyone? I do not believe that Johnny is a racist or a bigot. I did say that "some" could say that about him. They would not be justified in that statement. But they could still say it. I dont see what is so hard to understand here?And, if you had any comment by Johnny U where you could point out his racism or bigotry, you'd be justified in calling him such. But, since you don't, you wouldn't have a leg to stand on to label him a racist or a bigot. We have more than a handful of T.O. comments on record that clearly demonstrate that he is both.My point is that "Some" could say anything about anyone. If you are saying it thats one thing, if you are suggesting someone else is saying it is one thing. To say that "some" could say that is saying nothing.I'm not making public comments that certain individuals are "gay" or calling them "Uncle Tom". If I did, then it would be reasonable for some to think I was a racist or a bigot. What part of that don't you understand?Then whats the point of the fact? Some might say the same thing about you? Im not saying that, but some might...Not a fishing trip at all. I'm just stating a fact.
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Gamblor
Footballguy
My head does hurt now! I didn't intend the post to steer the thread in the direction it did. I just thought your post would have been better stated if you suggested that you thought this about T.O. instead of the vague "Some". It seemed like an obvious fishing trip to get things riled up in here.Anyways - apparently I was wrong.Your not making good arguments. Read your posts againMy point is that "Some" could say anything about anyone. If you are saying it thats one thing, if you are suggesting someone else is saying it is one thing. To say that "some" could say that is saying nothing.I'm not making public comments that certain individuals are "gay" or calling them "Uncle Tom". If I did, then it would be reasonable for some to think I was a racist or a bigot. What part of that don't you understand?Then whats the point of the fact? Some might say the same thing about you? Im not saying that, but some might...Not a fishing trip at all. I'm just stating a fact.
Gamblor
Footballguy
See above... no misdirection intended...Ok, I'll give in and say you are right that anyone could say anything about anyone, ok? However, if I know for a fact that someone calls another guy "gay" or another "Uncle Tom", it is not unreasonable to think of that person as a racist or bigot. If someone makes a remark about someone without ever hearing them say a racist or bigot remark, then I would have to say their comments are unreasonable to the normal person.Who said anything about having a leg to stand on? I just said "some" could say anything about anyone? I do not believe that Johnny is a racist or a bigot. I did say that "some" could say that about him. They would not be justified in that statement. But they could still say it. I dont see what is so hard to understand here?And, if you had any comment by Johnny U where you could point out his racism or bigotry, you'd be justified in calling him such. But, since you don't, you wouldn't have a leg to stand on to label him a racist or a bigot. We have more than a handful of T.O. comments on record that clearly demonstrate that he is both.My point is that "Some" could say anything about anyone. If you are saying it thats one thing, if you are suggesting someone else is saying it is one thing. To say that "some" could say that is saying nothing.I'm not making public comments that certain individuals are "gay" or calling them "Uncle Tom". If I did, then it would be reasonable for some to think I was a racist or a bigot. What part of that don't you understand?Then whats the point of the fact? Some might say the same thing about you? Im not saying that, but some might...Not a fishing trip at all. I'm just stating a fact.
cobalt_27
Footballguy
What I don't understand is your non-sequitor. If people can call TO a "racist" and a "bigot" and have his comments to support the label, then how is it a valid comparison to say anyone can call JU a "racist" and a "bigot" if they have no comments of his to support the labels?I don't think anyone is arguing that you can't say something disparaging about anybody. The difference is that those who are critical of T.O. have plenty of evidence to make the labels stick. By contrast, you (or anyone) wouldn't have a leg to stand on to call JU any of things.Who said anything about having a leg to stand on? I just said "some" could say anything about anyone? I do not believe that Johnny is a racist or a bigot. I did say that "some" could say that about him. They would not be justified in that statement. But they could still say it. I dont see what is so hard to understand here?And, if you had any comment by Johnny U where you could point out his racism or bigotry, you'd be justified in calling him such. But, since you don't, you wouldn't have a leg to stand on to label him a racist or a bigot. We have more than a handful of T.O. comments on record that clearly demonstrate that he is both.My point is that "Some" could say anything about anyone. If you are saying it thats one thing, if you are suggesting someone else is saying it is one thing. To say that "some" could say that is saying nothing.I'm not making public comments that certain individuals are "gay" or calling them "Uncle Tom". If I did, then it would be reasonable for some to think I was a racist or a bigot. What part of that don't you understand?Then whats the point of the fact? Some might say the same thing about you? Im not saying that, but some might...Not a fishing trip at all. I'm just stating a fact.
Evilgrin72
Footballguy
Yes.Nice signature.
Evilgrin72
Footballguy
Is this because his name is "Owens" or because he has drawn attention TO HIMSELF for years with all of his asinine comments?Nice sig, by the way.
