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Yep. If he's truly in a marital crisis he has better things to do than post details here. Hopefully he'll come back soon and say it was all a big misunderstanding or a joke they were playing on him that was taken way too far.Back when I had my marital crisis and posted about it on this board, after the first day, i took several days before I posted again. Yet, it was all legit.OP Still hasn't given any details. You people are such suckers.
exactly, if i had a marital crisis like this one, i probably wouldn't be on here posting in the first place, but if i was, unfortunately my primary concern wouldn't be to keep all the fbgs updated on the details. in fact, i was thinking yesterday that by regularly updating the thread like he was, MitYH's story was more likely to be a big fishing trip.Back when I had my marital crisis and posted about it on this board, after the first day, i took several days before I posted again. Yet, it was all legit.OP Still hasn't given any details. You people are such suckers.
But then there is:"I Got a Brand New Girlfriend""I Can't Be With a Woman Who Gets Drunker Than Me""It's Hard to Kiss the Lips at Night That Chew Your ### Out All Day Long" by the Fabulous Cherry Bombsand on the rock side:"I Used to Lover Her But Had To Kill Her" by G&R"Hate, or I Really Don't Like You" by Plain White T's"Love of My Life", "Too Much Fun", "I Don't Wanna Be Friend's", etc. by Cowboy Mouth"She Hates Me" by Puddle of Mudand that's just recent music. I have more. I made a cd about my ex. It was theraputic.If Toby Keith or some other male country singer did a song called "Before She Cheats" it would have been protested against for domestic abuse.That song turns me on.SuperJohn96 said:Before He Cheats by Carrie Underwood is on the radio right now.
OP Still hasn't given any details. You people are such suckers.
Hope the thing doesn't tip. Too many marlins jumping in the boat.
Well if it IS a fishing trip, I'm gonna look like a real tampon after sending Manhat a PM.exactly, if i had a marital crisis like this one, i probably wouldn't be on here posting in the first place, but if i was, unfortunately my primary concern wouldn't be to keep all the fbgs updated on the details. in fact, i was thinking yesterday that by regularly updating the thread like he was, MitYH's story was more likely to be a big fishing trip.Back when I had my marital crisis and posted about it on this board, after the first day, i took several days before I posted again. Yet, it was all legit.OP Still hasn't given any details. You people are such suckers.
Because it is a very blatant attempt to look like you don't care while caring.AnonymousBob said:
Thank you for understanding what I've been saying since last night.
Whats her body language like while this is going on?
Best of luck man. Hope everything works out.
She sat kind of slumped on the couch, looking me in the eye. The eye contact was there the whole time I was talking, and the whole time she was responding. Which is why I think she truthfully does not remember anything. Of course she looked pretty run down and upset about it too.
This is what I don't get. Why would she think you were done talking about it? I asked you this way earlier in this thread ... have you explained to her how serious this situation is to you and how much it's been affecting you lately? Sounds like she was ready to blow it off while it ate you up inside. Something just doesn't add up with all that.
Well, we didn't have much to go on with earlier conversation. I never said we were done talking about it, but what I said was that if the guy who told me this stuff doesn't remember, and you don't remember, then what's there to talk about. I think she took this to mean we were done discussing it. Not what I meant, but I wasn't exactly thinking straight either.This is what I don't get. Why would she think you were done talking about it? I asked you this way earlier in this thread ... have you explained to her how serious this situation is to you and how much it's been affecting you lately? Sounds like she was ready to blow it off while it ate you up inside. Something just doesn't add up with all that.
She held eye contact?As much as I've been convinced something very bad went down, this is a good sign she's being honest with you now. Liars have trouble maintaining eye contact, unless they're seriously cold blooded.
I think the correct approach would be for BOTH of you to go and talk to Steve together. You can get a better idea if either party is lying if you can see them both in front of you trying sort out what happened. Also, if you are trying to fix this in your marriage together I think it would be best that the both of you try to do that together instead of you sending her out to find out what happened.
Aren't you at all concerned if you let the two of them discuss this privately, that the full truth may never be known to you?
Exactly. As I talked, she looked me in the eye and said she understood. When she first responded, she was looking me in the eye. As she continued talking she kind of looked away. I chalk that up to feeling a little humiliated and feeling as though I thought much less of her.
warhogs option is better than what you suggested.i would go a step further and talk to steve myself - without the wife's involvement. it may make it even more akward to have all 3 of you there. she wont help anyway because she can't remember anything.
But he needs to let Steve know he knows that something went down(no pun intended) that night and the friendship is over.
I still wince when I think about the time I lied to my dad's face, looking him straight in the eye, and told him I was not smoking pot at Magic Mountain.
YES. i did not mean to leave that part out (no pun intended).
Of course you want to safeguard your finances, but for a guy to have a chance at primary custody, the best visitation rights, etc, he'd better get some advice. I'd also recomend talking to a clergyman/counselor/psychologist, depending on his preference. Getting usefull information is never bad, and if the worst comes to pass, learning his legal prospects early will be invaluable. If not, a better understanding of your legal situation is still usefull. And talking to a couselor of some sort will be invaluable in any situation, helping deal with the suspicion, etc, whether founded or not. Knowledge is never a bad thing.
OK, an update and some clarification.
I then told her that I cannot move on from this until she talks to him and figures out what happened. She says she understands, but is scared and doesn't know how to approach him. I told her what I would do. We'll see how that goes.
Why would SHE approach him and not you?!?!?!
I'm working on that. Turns out there out of of the state until later today. I tried contacting him several times yesterday myself, and my wife is not aware of this.OK, an update and some clarification.
I then told her that I cannot move on from this until she talks to him and figures out what happened. She says she understands, but is scared and doesn't know how to approach him. I told her what I would do. We'll see how that goes.
Why would SHE approach him and not you?!?!?!
Been reading this thread on & off.....I'll add myI still wince when I think about the time I lied to my dad's face, looking him straight in the eye, and told him I was not smoking pot at Magic Mountain.
then back off and continue to read the updates. She did something, she has a pretty good idea of what she did. She loves you and the kids and in no way wants a divorce. Admitting what she did might cause that. There is no visual proof of what she did. As long as she and Steve continue to deny it, there is no way to prove without a doubt anything differently.I know this won't make you feel any better, or give you any closure, but it's just my take.
If you let them talk privately they are just going to come up with some story that doesnt make them look like they didnt anything wrong. Its obvious she atleast made out with him, got felt up by him and probably played with his weewee ,and maybe sucked it. They could of easily had intercourse as well in the 15 min.
It's also time to tell George the friendship is over unless he wants to tell him everything that took place that night.
Yeah, I got the same "fishing" crap a couple years ago. I was posting here because a lot of friends were also caught in the middle. I hope your situation works out better than mine did, as we ended in divorce, with her moving in with the "friend". No kids, thank goodness.Good luck, and see a clergyman or couselor. They help.
The LAST thing I would want is for her to have more contact with Steve. If I you were I would have told her that she is never ever to speak to Steve again.
Actually, the more I think about this, the less sense it makes.One of the plausible theories was that perhaps Steve took advantage of your wife. If that is true, do you think he will tell her that? and that she would in turn tell you? I just find it extremely unlikely that you could get to the truth this way.Why would SHE approach him and not you?!?!?!
Exactly. And not even really to a huge extent. All I said was that if you tell him you don't remember, he'll tell you straight out nothing happened. I told her your approach has to be "Hey, I know things got a little out of control in the bathroom. I remember a lot of what went down, but I still have some gaps. What do you remember?" I then said if he says "nothing", hit him with the fact that you are aware you held his penis. The other piece of info to throw in is chest related. If it came to it, I told her to ask him who took them out, her or him?
I just wanna say it's refreshing once in a while to read this kind of post and not a "GO FIND STEVE AND SHOOT HIM" reply.I agree. Friendship over. But that's it. Don't resort to violence. Not with little kids. Jail is the last place you ever want to be.
I have not seen you in the baseball gambling thread. Whats up?Well if it IS a fishing trip, I'm gonna look like a real tampon after sending Manhat a PM.exactly, if i had a marital crisis like this one, i probably wouldn't be on here posting in the first place, but if i was, unfortunately my primary concern wouldn't be to keep all the fbgs updated on the details. in fact, i was thinking yesterday that by regularly updating the thread like he was, MitYH's story was more likely to be a big fishing trip.Back when I had my marital crisis and posted about it on this board, after the first day, i took several days before I posted again. Yet, it was all legit.OP Still hasn't given any details. You people are such suckers.
I tend to agree. I think I've come around to the KilgoreTrout/Scoobygang/YankeeFan line of thinking -- We all make mistakes, some big, some little. A lot of married guys here would not want to put themselves in compromising situations with a cute girl because they know they would be tempted to do something, even if they absolutely love their wives and would not want a divorce. Regardless of what happened, if you trust that she wants to be with you in the HERE and NOW, if you have a wonderful life with your wife and your beautiful kids, then believe her, stay clear of your shathead friends, and get on with that great life.Been reading this thread on & off.....I'll add my
I know this won't make you feel any better, or give you any closure, but it's just my take.
Up until now I thought you have been handling this in the correct way but having your wife call Steve is about the wimpiest thing you could do. I am not one of those "go beat Steve's head with a bat" guys but it is up to you to talk to Steve.
Do not let her talk to him. Either he took advantage of her, and in which case there is no way in hell he will tell her because that opens up rape charges. If she willingly gave it out, then all you are doing is providing a great opportunity to a) collaborate their story and b) #### again. That is the worst possible thing you could do right now.You need to talk to George and demand him to tell you EVERYTHING that happened. Then based on that, I would talk to your other source again and finally talk to Steve.Sorry, but at this point you can't trust your wife. She has been compromised willingly or unwillingly.
Dude, I'm all over that. I tried calling several times only to find out he's out of state.
That is a good approach but you need to be the one asking not your wife.
