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Why does San Diego suck?

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Why is the greatest spot in the country in terms of weather and beaches such a colossal dud?

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Same reason bacon, bjs, and money suck I guess.

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It doesn't compute. I'm not asking for New Orleans, because that's a random perfect storm (forgive the pun), but on paper it should be a jumping ####### hotspot city. That's our greatest spot and instead of being that, it's like Orange County meets Norfolk on Zoloft.

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I love San Diego for short visits, but I could never live there. There's no....personality. And maybe that comes with perfect weather every day or beach living where people can spread out and not have to talk to others. Seasons harden people up, make us stay inside and seek entertainment. We can't just run out on the sand and fly a kite every day. We have to effort for it some fun. Cold weather makes us pack into tiny bars, huddle around TVs, root on sports, talk to one another. Not so, San Diego...And think about other CA cities. LA is full of people with GIANT personality trying to make it big. San Francisco is the west coast version of NYC. It's brimming with synergy and smarts. San Diego is where postal workers go to retire.

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the military presence and the meth head population drag it all down a few clicks

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I love San Diego for short visits, but I could never live there. There's no....personality. And maybe that comes with perfect weather every day or beach living where people can spread out and not have to talk to others. Seasons harden people up, make us stay inside and seek entertainment. We can't just run out on the sand and fly a kite every day. We have to effort for it some fun. Cold weather makes us pack into tiny bars, huddle around TVs, root on sports, talk to one another. Not so, San Diego...

And think about other CA cities. LA is full of people with GIANT personality trying to make it big. San Francisco is the west coast version of NYC. It's brimming with synergy and smarts. San Diego is where postal workers go to retire.

This is exactly what San Diego is. It's everything every other city is, w/o the effort.

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the military presence and the meth head population drag it all down a few clicks

I don't know the extent of the meth thing, but meth heads are very easily driven out. That's nothing. The military is a different story. Can't we move them up a few miles?

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It doesn't compute. I'm not asking for New Orleans, because that's a random perfect storm (forgive the pun), but on paper it should be a jumping ####### hotspot city. That's our greatest spot and instead of being that, it's like Orange County meets Norfolk on Zoloft.

I'm guessing you haven't spent any time on 4th and 5th south of Broadway eh?

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the military presence and the meth head population drag it all down a few clicks

I don't know the extent of the meth thing, but meth heads are very easily driven out. That's nothing. The military is a different story. Can't we move them up a few miles?
Ha, doesn't surprise me the gun grabber doesn't like the military. For the record I love San Diego.

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the military presence and the meth head population drag it all down a few clicks

I don't know the extent of the meth thing, but meth heads are very easily driven out. That's nothing. The military is a different story. Can't we move them up a few miles?
Ha, doesn't surprise me the gun grabber doesn't like the military. For the record I love San Diego.
I spent yesterday running through Arlington visiting the graves of my father, uncle, three grandparents, and my best friends parents. In conclusion, shut the #### up.

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If your real life personality is anything like your online persona, I'm guessing it's because you're a horse's ###.

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If your real life personality is anything like your online persona, I'm guessing it's because you're a horse's ###.

It's not, but I get your comment. But it's irrelevant. Who hasn't been disappointed by a trip to San Diego?

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If your real life personality is anything like your online persona, I'm guessing it's because you're a horse's ###.

It's not, but I get your comment. But it's irrelevant. Who hasn't been disappointed by a trip to San Diego?
If you are desperate, go to Hooters. My research indicates that San Diego has the best looking Hooters girls in the country.

By a mile.

They are always the girls who end up in the Top-10 in the annual International Hooters pageant.

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Home is San Francisco. I love the beach and went to college in sd. Was fine, but i couldn't wait to get back north. San Diego was becoming an extension of orange county . Very little culture and soul. Fun for a vacation but sparse on substance. It's another chicken/egg.... not sure that that niche is sustainable down there.

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If you can't enjoy San Diego, you are doing it wrong. It may not have the character if a New York, Chicago or San Fran, but there is still plenty there to enjoy.

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If your real life personality is anything like your online persona, I'm guessing it's because you're a horse's ###.

It's not, but I get your comment. But it's irrelevant. Who hasn't been disappointed by a trip to San Diego?
I was not disappointed.

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It doesn't compute. I'm not asking for New Orleans, because that's a random perfect storm (forgive the pun), but on paper it should be a jumping ####### hotspot city. That's our greatest spot and instead of being that, it's like Orange County meets Norfolk on Zoloft.

Poor Norfolk.

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It doesn't compute. I'm not asking for New Orleans, because that's a random perfect storm (forgive the pun), but on paper it should be a jumping ####### hotspot city. That's our greatest spot and instead of being that, it's like Orange County meets Norfolk on Zoloft.

I'm guessing you haven't spent any time on 4th and 5th south of Broadway eh?
Disclaimer: I've never been to San Diego

but if you're having to give me a couple block area where the fun is in a city like San Diego, that pretty much proves Apple Jack's point.

Everything I've ever heard about SD is "it's so great, the weather..."

It's never "we went to San Diego and had such a great time, we did x and y and z"

In a city like San Diego, you shouldn't be telling me about a couple block area, you should be calling out different districts/areas.

San Diego makes Cincinnati seem interesting. If only the weather...

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Isn't it too close to Mexico, whose greatest contribution to society is women with moustaches, to be any good?

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It doesn't compute. I'm not asking for New Orleans, because that's a random perfect storm (forgive the pun), but on paper it should be a jumping ####### hotspot city. That's our greatest spot and instead of being that, it's like Orange County meets Norfolk on Zoloft.

I'm guessing you haven't spent any time on 4th and 5th south of Broadway eh?
Disclaimer: I've never been to San Diego

but if you're having to give me a couple block area where the fun is in a city like San Diego, that pretty much proves Apple Jack's point.

Everything I've ever heard about SD is "it's so great, the weather..."

It's never "we went to San Diego and had such a great time, we did x and y and z"

In a city like San Diego, you shouldn't be telling me about a couple block area, you should be calling out different districts/areas.

San Diego makes Cincinnati seem interesting. If only the weather...

I've never been there either, but I definitely agree with this.

A city of SD's size and natural advantages should have many more hot spots. And, there should be hot spots of varying types for those with different interests.

When I think of SD, I think of weather, beaches, and a zoo. I guess I can now add 4th and 5th south of Broadway, whatever that is. Anything else?

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Isn't it too close to Mexico, whose greatest contribution to society is women with moustaches, to be any good?

Isn't Tijuana considered a better hot spot than anything in SD?

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I kind of have the same impression. :shrug:

Thirded.

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San Diego is terrible, stay away...

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Isn't it too close to Mexico, whose greatest contribution to society is women with moustaches, to be any good?

Let's not forget tequila, salsa, and yard care.

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And maybe that comes with perfect weather every day or beach living where people can spread out and not have to talk to others.

That sounds great to me. :shrug:

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Have you ever been in any great border town?

I didn't think so.

Looks nice to me. :shrug:

Isn't it too close to Mexico, whose greatest contribution to society is women with moustaches, to be any good?

That would be Salma Hayek's breasts.

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It doesn't compute. I'm not asking for New Orleans, because that's a random perfect storm (forgive the pun), but on paper it should be a jumping ####### hotspot city. That's our greatest spot and instead of being that, it's like Orange County meets Norfolk on Zoloft.

I'm guessing you haven't spent any time on 4th and 5th south of Broadway eh?
Disclaimer: I've never been to San Diego

but if you're having to give me a couple block area where the fun is in a city like San Diego, that pretty much proves Apple Jack's point.

Everything I've ever heard about SD is "it's so great, the weather..."

It's never "we went to San Diego and had such a great time, we did x and y and z"

In a city like San Diego, you shouldn't be telling me about a couple block area, you should be calling out different districts/areas.

San Diego makes Cincinnati seem interesting. If only the weather...

I've never been there either, but I definitely agree with this.

A city of SD's size and natural advantages should have many more hot spots. And, there should be hot spots of varying types for those with different interests.

When I think of SD, I think of weather, beaches, and a zoo. I guess I can now add 4th and 5th south of Broadway, whatever that is. Anything else?

Any review of SD that includes the phrase "yeah, but other than the weather ..." (or its functional equivalent) completely misses the point. If you don't place much importance on the climate SD is not going to rank highly for you.

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I've spent a lot of time there, and I get what the OP is saying.It's sort of a lifeless, spiritless city. Maybe it's because it's composed of so many transplants from all over the country and so nobody really cares that much (then again, you could say the same about NYC, and it's clearly not the case there)? Maybe it's because people there are lazy? It's a city without a sense of purpose. Without any real identity other than "weather is usually nice." Maybe that's just what happens in a town that doesn't have much adversity, where things are easy, breezy, and warm all the time. Hard to say.It probably peaked during the Three's Company era. Today it just feels like Detroit with nice beaches.

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It doesn't compute. I'm not asking for New Orleans, because that's a random perfect storm (forgive the pun), but on paper it should be a jumping ####### hotspot city. That's our greatest spot and instead of being that, it's like Orange County meets Norfolk on Zoloft.

I'm guessing you haven't spent any time on 4th and 5th south of Broadway eh?
Disclaimer: I've never been to San Diego

but if you're having to give me a couple block area where the fun is in a city like San Diego, that pretty much proves Apple Jack's point.

Everything I've ever heard about SD is "it's so great, the weather..."

It's never "we went to San Diego and had such a great time, we did x and y and z"

In a city like San Diego, you shouldn't be telling me about a couple block area, you should be calling out different districts/areas.

San Diego makes Cincinnati seem interesting. If only the weather...

I've never been there either, but I definitely agree with this.

A city of SD's size and natural advantages should have many more hot spots. And, there should be hot spots of varying types for those with different interests.

When I think of SD, I think of weather, beaches, and a zoo. I guess I can now add 4th and 5th south of Broadway, whatever that is. Anything else?

Any review of SD that includes the phrase "yeah, but other than the weather ..." (or its functional equivalent) completely misses the point. If you don't place much importance on the climate SD is not going to rank highly for you.
Everyone likes great weather. Everyone realizes San Diego has great weather. But, that, on its own, can't make it a great city.

So, you have this great weather. Now what? Other than the beach, what do you do in this great weather? Where do you go? Or, do you just sit on your front porch all day and say, "This is such a blast sitting here on my porch in this weather"?

Where are the great hangouts? Are there a couple great retail strips with shops, restaurants, and bars? Are there really good clubs and small concert establishments? Are there fun markets to buy produce, meat, and seafood? Is there a cool historic district? Are there a couple great urban outdoor parks with open space, fountains, and statues where people like to hang and picnic? Are there huge national parks with cool mountains or caves or deserts to explore within easy driving distance? Are there museums? Operas? Other cultural centers?

This is what people want to know, but all we ever hear is: weather, beach, weather, beach, weather, beach. Those things are absolutely great, but a lot of people want more.

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I love San Diego for short visits, but I could never live there. There's no....personality. And maybe that comes with perfect weather every day or beach living where people can spread out and not have to talk to others. Seasons harden people up, make us stay inside and seek entertainment. We can't just run out on the sand and fly a kite every day. We have to effort for it some fun. Cold weather makes us pack into tiny bars, huddle around TVs, root on sports, talk to one another. Not so, San Diego...And think about other CA cities. LA is full of people with GIANT personality trying to make it big. San Francisco is the west coast version of NYC. It's brimming with synergy and smarts. San Diego is where postal workers go to retire.

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I've spent a lot of time there, and I get what the OP is saying.

It's sort of a lifeless, spiritless city. Maybe it's because it's composed of so many transplants from all over the country and so nobody really cares that much (then again, you could say the same about NYC, and it's clearly not the case there)? Maybe it's because people there are lazy?

It's a city without a sense of purpose. Without any real identity other than "weather is usually nice." Maybe that's just what happens in a town that doesn't have much adversity, where things are easy, breezy, and warm all the time. Hard to say.

It probably peaked during the Three's Company era. Today it just feels like Detroit with nice beaches.

:lmao:

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It doesn't compute. I'm not asking for New Orleans, because that's a random perfect storm (forgive the pun), but on paper it should be a jumping ####### hotspot city. That's our greatest spot and instead of being that, it's like Orange County meets Norfolk on Zoloft.

I'm guessing you haven't spent any time on 4th and 5th south of Broadway eh?
Disclaimer: I've never been to San Diego

but if you're having to give me a couple block area where the fun is in a city like San Diego, that pretty much proves Apple Jack's point.

Everything I've ever heard about SD is "it's so great, the weather..."

It's never "we went to San Diego and had such a great time, we did x and y and z"

In a city like San Diego, you shouldn't be telling me about a couple block area, you should be calling out different districts/areas.

San Diego makes Cincinnati seem interesting. If only the weather...

I've never been there either, but I definitely agree with this.

A city of SD's size and natural advantages should have many more hot spots. And, there should be hot spots of varying types for those with different interests.

When I think of SD, I think of weather, beaches, and a zoo. I guess I can now add 4th and 5th south of Broadway, whatever that is. Anything else?

Any review of SD that includes the phrase "yeah, but other than the weather ..." (or its functional equivalent) completely misses the point. If you don't place much importance on the climate SD is not going to rank highly for you.
Everyone likes great weather. Everyone realizes San Diego has great weather. But, that, on its own, can't make it a great city.

So, you have this great weather. Now what? Other than the beach, what do you do in this great weather? Where do you go? Or, do you just sit on your front porch all day and say, "This is such a blast sitting here on my porch in this weather"?

Where are the great hangouts? Are there a couple great retail strips with shops, restaurants, and bars? Are there really good clubs and small concert establishments? Are there fun markets to buy produce, meat, and seafood? Is there a cool historic district? Are there a couple great urban outdoor parks with open space, fountains, and statues where people like to hang and picnic? Are there huge national parks with cool mountains or caves or deserts to explore within easy driving distance? Are there museums? Operas? Other cultural centers?

This is what people want to know, but all we ever hear is: weather, beach, weather, beach, weather, beach. Those things are absolutely great, but a lot of people want more.

There are plenty of things to so in SD. It lacks the culture of an NY or DC, but I'd trade that in a heartbeat to be able to comfortably go outside every day of the year. The lack of "adversity" also means your average person is about 300% more friendly than in the northeast because they arent miserable about the weather. Everyone has their own individual preferences so I'm not saying it has to be everyone's favorite, but downplaying the weather as a general attraction is silly. No one says "yeah, Hawaii has great weather, but its really missing outdoor urban parks."

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I visited SD a few years back. I get what the OP is saying but he is being a little harsh.There was a cool restaurant/bar/shopping district that was enjoyable. There is definitely a ton of beautiful women in the area. There is a great zoo to visit. SD is what it is. Not sure why it has to be something more. At least it is not awful like some crumbling cities in the US. SD is a laid-back, small city without much of a personality that has fantastic weather. I am sure some folks love it. Seems like a better place to live than to visit as a vacation destination.

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