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Isaiah Crowell (3 Viewers)
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
How is houstons cap situation?? They need to fix that oline.....miller foreman etc....would be fine if they did that
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I think he may become a victim of supply and demand and with his baggage, he could have a hard time finding a landing spot.
You still have CJ Anderson, TJ Yeldon, Jay Ajayi, Spencer Ware, Alex Collins, TY Montgomery and a few others out there as free agents and a rookie class of running backs coming in with only a few teams left that have any kind of a real opportunity for carries out there.
With his mediocre career to date, past troubles in college, tweeting the picture of a police officer being beheaded and wiping his ### with the football during a game last season, teams may have him low on their list of guys they want to bring in. All it takes is one team of course, and he surely has some talent, but guys come and go quickly in the NFL and it would be far from shocking seeing him on an AAF roster next year.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
I hear you. I would take his talent over any of those names, and I really don't think there are more than a couple rookie RBs that will emerge. But to your point it may not be likely that he gets picked up. I know there aren't many spots that are open.
farfromforgotten
Footballguy
Would love to see Crowell in Silver and Black. Make it happen, Oakland.
TartanLion
Footballguy
As a dynasty owner of Crowell, I actually like this landing spot as it’s one of the few ones where he could feasibly win the starting role
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barackdhouse
Footballguy
I had him down as a likely cut yesterday. But I like the landing spot as well. Still a solid chance they draft a RB high.
I mean, he's certainly better than Doug Martin. Sounds like Gruden would happily welcome Lynch back still, but if not, I'm not sure any rookie RB starts over Crowell, at least not week 1.
cloppbeast
Footballguy
It's hard to see him building any trade value. I didnt get any decent offers even after his 200 yard game. This guy will probably retire on my roster.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
I like Crowell. He is not a great RB but he is good. He should get a real shot at being the Raiders starting RB. Martin is done. Lynch may not even come back.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
DocHolliday
Footballguy
Sebowski
Footballguy
cloppbeast
Footballguy
Idk why youd want to trade him though. I really dont know the numbers, but it's unlikely to get a rb2 with a 2nd round rookie pick.You're probay right, but I have 2 Raiders fans in my league so
Elevencents
Footballguy
Poor Crowell. He just keeps landing in crowded backfields. I think if given the chance he could be a feature back.
voiceofunreason
Footballguy
The raiders seem one of the least talented backfields in the league to me. There’s really only Richard, who is a cop back. Pretty much best case scenario I’d say.
Elevencents
Footballguy
Gruden seems to love Muscle Hamster tho so if he is back he will certainly cut into Crowell’s carries. I guess Lynch is still an unknown? I’m probably in the minority but the little I’ve watched them (who watches the Raiders?), I think Richard and Washington could be a decent duo. The Raiders seem to be another team that rather than giving someone or two someone’s a shot long term, they’re constantly shuffling and it’s so hard to evaluate.
krsone21
Footballguy
I don't know if Doug Martin will be back. I'm doubting it at this point. I have heard from local beat writers that Martin is asking for more then the Raiders are willing to pay at this time. So unless his asking price comes down I think Martin is out.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Soulfly3
Footballguy
less about crowding and more about being down 2tds by the 1st quarter and the rungame being abandoned.
Big on this guy's talent. Not a stud but can be a strong back, 100%. Id like to see him in the 225 carry range, and the kid can catch!
daveR
Footballguy
Agreed. It wasn't competition for touches, it was fewer carries at a team level. Never played behind a good OL, either.
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
Damn. I wish people would stop making stuff up to excuse Crowell’s performance - or should we say lack of performance. Poor offensive lines? He was running behind strong CLE O lines anchored by Joe Thomas. Before last season in NY, Crowel has had at worst a solid O line to run behind and at times it was top 6.
I don’t get some of the myth. Someone made up the narrative that Crowell was an exceptional RB the year he was draft eligible and now some people just refuse to let it go and admit it was wrong despite his performance to date. There’s always the excuses when he doesn’t live up to expectations just to perpetuate the myth.
He was part of the problem in CLE - they wanted to run the ball to shorten games but he just didn’t get it done well enough to become a bell cow or keep CLE competitive. Geez, he’s running behind Thomas and Bitonio and the O line is the reason he isn’t awesome? C’mon.
This guy is a solid starting RB in the NFL when he’s on. No more. He doesn’t compare favorably to a guy like Hunt or RBs like that. Not even close. He just doesn't create a whole lot for himself and he doesn’t have any single exceptional trait that supercedes the rest of the amalgam of his solid but hardly great skills. He can bust off a nice play every once in a while when everything goes right - just like a whole bunch of solid but hardly great RBs in the NFL.
And just to make my position clear, I am a Crowell owner who traded for him hoping to get a decent FF RB2.
Now he’s in OAK where I guess he’ll have all sorts of excuses when he once again fails to become the reliable upper tier FF RB1 that he never was and never will be.
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I don’t get some of the myth. Someone made up the narrative that Crowell was an exceptional RB the year he was draft eligible and now some people just refuse to let it go and admit it was wrong despite his performance to date. There’s always the excuses when he doesn’t live up to expectations just to perpetuate the myth.
He was part of the problem in CLE - they wanted to run the ball to shorten games but he just didn’t get it done well enough to become a bell cow or keep CLE competitive. Geez, he’s running behind Thomas and Bitonio and the O line is the reason he isn’t awesome? C’mon.
This guy is a solid starting RB in the NFL when he’s on. No more. He doesn’t compare favorably to a guy like Hunt or RBs like that. Not even close. He just doesn't create a whole lot for himself and he doesn’t have any single exceptional trait that supercedes the rest of the amalgam of his solid but hardly great skills. He can bust off a nice play every once in a while when everything goes right - just like a whole bunch of solid but hardly great RBs in the NFL.
And just to make my position clear, I am a Crowell owner who traded for him hoping to get a decent FF RB2.
Now he’s in OAK where I guess he’ll have all sorts of excuses when he once again fails to become the reliable upper tier FF RB1 that he never was and never will be.
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Ghost Rider
Footballguy
He's obviously not a top back, but I do think he is better than many think. He averaged 4.8 YPC last season despite playing in a crappy Jets offense.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Ok but just how afraid of the pass were opposing defenses? Wouldn't you stack the box and dare them to throw?
cloppbeast
Footballguy
Yeah but, yeah but if you don't count his 219 yards in game it was less than 4 ypc.
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Ghost Rider
Footballguy
LOL, we are playing that game now? If you take out his worst game, he is up over 5 YPC. See, it works both ways.
cloppbeast
Footballguy
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
There are plenty of successful RBs on the career rushing list who played with crappy QBs and somehow still managed to get the job done.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Nobody is talking about someone that is going to be on any career rushing list. We're talking about a guy that can be a servicable RB2. That's about it. I thought he did well enough with Cleveland and NY despite their bad QB play. He had better OLs than people think? Ok well point taken. But let's not measure him against the career rushing list. Nobody is making that argument.
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Nero
Footballguy
I consider Crowell a successful RB. Since he has been in the league, only McCoy, L. Miller, Gore, Gurley, Ingram, Demarco Murray, Bell and Elliot have more rushing yards, His best season was in 2016 when Cleveland was 30th in yards and 31st in scoring. Crowell had 198 carries for 952 yards and 7 TD's to go along with 40 receptions and 319 yards. He is a definitive upgrade over Doug Martin
TartanLion
Footballguy
Wow. Damn. Probably wasn’t much more than a handcuff at this point, but as a new Jacobs owner I was happy to be owning both.
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
32 Counter Pass
Footballguy
Ted Stickles
Footballguy
oursoneout:
But this may be the greatest hype video ever created.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2GMcjNyAyI
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Mostly likely just cut bait. Veteran RB with an injury no player has ever really come back from.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Huh? I think a few players have had successful careers after a torn achilles injury. Demaryius Thomas comes to mind. Pretty sure another or two escape my memory.
Still, I'd cut bait on Isiah Crowell, unless there's no cost for IR-ing him.
