I respect JWB's views a lot, but this re-posting of old comments with the I-told-you-so stamp is juvenile and makes me wonder if I should also question his football acumen.
I had no exchange with Maurile in this thread, but (a) I respect his football perspective, and (b) I did not agree with the part of his post that I bolded when he posted it. I am interested to know if he maintains the same perspective now, hence the post.
As for gianmarco, he has been a quality poster in this forum for a long time. It disappointed me when I posted detailed contrary responses to links and info he posted on Gordon months ago, and he responded to say "you win," abandoning the conversation. I am interested to know if he holds the same view today. My views haven't changed; have his views changed?
If you see that as me saying I told you so, so be it. That's not how I see it. Also, I could not care less about what you think about my football acumen. I post a lot about the Chargers in this forum, and I think those posts are generally pretty well informed. YMMV.
Actually, the reason I abandoned the conversation was noted by others. You were being quite toolish in your responses. You can read the quote below.
Ok, you win. None of those opinions during his pro day, OTAs and minicamp mean anything. Appreciate your local input.
I thought we were having a nice exchange here. Sorry my opinion and input doesn't fit your perspective.
Well, as an unbiaed observer, you were being a bit dickish through the whole thing.
To restart the conversation, here are a few thoughts:
1) Your main argument was that he wasn't good at catching the ball and that his pass protection wasn't good and that Woodhead would clearly have that role. From the start of the season, he's been involved in the passing game. And, since week 8, Gordon's role in the passing game has increased substantially while Woodhead's has decreased. In those last 6 games, Gordon has 19 catches to Woodhead's 21. The fact that Gordon has 32 receptions already with 3 weeks left to go seems to me that they seem to trust both his hands as well as his pass protection. Factor in how poorly he's run this year and it's even more impressive, IMO, that they've kept him out there that much.
So regarding those opinions from your quote about his Pro Day, OTAs, and Minicamps and rebuttals to my links since they were related to how he well he could catch, I feel just fine since the reports I linked discussed how well he did in the passing game and he has similarly caught the ball just fine.
Melvin Gordon: 32 receptions on 36 targets. He leads ALL NFL RBs in catch % of targets.
So, I'll come right back to you: Do
YOU still think he can't catch the ball very well considering that was actually our argument prior to the season?
For reference, here is the specific link to our exchange:
https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?/topic/724802-official-melvin-flash-gordon-thread-of-love/?p=18230734
2) He has been
almost a complete disappointment in the run game so far this year. His 3.6 ypc is awful. He has 0 TDs. He's missed some opportunities for sure. That said, that O-line is atrocious. While it would be nice if he could have done more with less, I can't knock him completely as a rookie behind that line. Mostly because.....
3) He's tied for 8th in the NFL for runs of 20+ yards. His yards after contact and missed tackles are excellent (one of the only metrics he's done well in). But....
4) His fumbling is DEFINITELY an issue that needs correcting. That will cause him to lose his job faster than anything else he's done.
Overall, it's been a disappointing rookie season for sure but I'm not bailing on him yet. I think there is definite promise. He seems like the kind of guy that once that light switches on, he's going to excel.
In the end, though, if you're going to bump a post like that to puff your chest (even though you claim that's not why you did), make sure you're actually bumping it for the right reason. You look a little silly saying "I told you so" when you were arguing against the one area he has done exceptionally well in: catching the football.
