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And for the record, he wasn't challenging her to a debate, he just wanted her to come on his show.
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Stuart Ullman
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sandhan you should really point out who the forces are that lobby more than anyone else for the quote government forces and regulations endquote you know like the drug companies and healthcare interests that make tons of money from the system take that to the bank bromigos
squistion
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Officer Pete Malloy
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As someone who fits into this demographic like a hand in a glove I really wish “we” would stop voting.
Mario Kart
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Officer Pete Malloy
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It’s pretty simple. Conservatives want an easy target. Someone that they can use as an example of liberal craziness. It’s their response to Trump. The leader of their party has extreme views, so they need make the leader of the liberals to be extreme too. First they tried to make Maxine Waters that person but it didn’t stick. Now they want to make it look like the liberals are pushing socialism with her as the star.
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timschochet
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parasaurolophus
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Thats all well and good, but how does that explain why she gets so much media attention?
Sand
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She's getting huge media attention. Media that is 95+% liberal. Republicans don't control the narrative here - this water is being carried by the liberal side.
Grace Under Pressure
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Not to say she goes about everything correctly, she doesn't, but why do people think everyone having health insurance, a job and a place to live is somehow bad? Do certain people not "deserve" those things?
Stuart Ullman
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It's America. You work for those things. The invisible hand, bruh.
The moment the incentive to work disappears, our democracy and society will begin to erode.
If I could sit home all day and get free housing, a guaranteed job, and healthcare. I wouldn't work very hard knowing the government will take care of me.
Go ahead, legalize weed while we're at it. Give everyone free stuff and let them sit around and smoke weed everyday.
I'm sure that will end up great and not a total disaster.
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Who is going to pay for them, Trump's friend Russia?
"Historical NHE, 2016: NHE grew 4.3% to $3.3 trillion in 2016, or $10,348 per person, and accounted for 17.9% of Gross Domestic Product (GDP). Medicare spending grew 3.6% to $672.1 billion in 2016, or 20 percent of total NHE. Medicaid spending grew 3.9% to $565.5 billion in 2016, or 17 percent of total NHE."
3.3 Trillion in 2016 to cover 37% of Americans in 2016 dollars.
msudaisy26
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You ever think that everyone just isn't that lazy and would still try to better themselves? Or that people might thrive if they had a little less stress on their hands wondering if they will have enough money to pay for healthcare or their copays? Maybe people would be healthier if they weren't worried about losing their jobs and living pay check to pay check?
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Mario Kart
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Also, I’m sure the free housing that comes with the idea is not going to be a 3,000sq ft house in the burbs. The people wanting to not live in “government subsidized housing” will be fine.
I visited Denver this year and asked about their housing since I didn’t see any “subsidized housing” like I do in Milwaukee. The explanation I was given was pretty damn good and I appreciated what Denver did and how they incorporate the lower income people into housing around the city. Great for diversity.
Many arguments against her and the ideas she and Bernie have presented are blatant fear mongering. It’s unfortunate that fear mongering works so well.
Stuart Ullman
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No, I don't think that. I think the system is fine. I see plenty of happy and healthy Americans out there.
There's no system that is perfect but the one we have is pretty damn good. The only ones who complain are the ones not trying hard enough.
Stuart Ullman
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squistion
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Well, then why the hell bring this up?
No country in the world provides all that and no has been calling for it in this country. Was there actually some point you were trying to make in throwing that out there?
Stuart Ullman
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I'm not sure. I do know that I hate socialism though.
Well, then why the hell bring this up?
No country in the world provides all that and no has been calling for it in this country. Was there actually some point you were trying to make in throwing that out there?
msudaisy26
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That isn't true. I dislike several things about our current system and think it could be easily improved if the people in charge wanted to change it.
I am also lucky enough to live in a nice house and neighborhood. My family doesn't live pay check to pay check.
Stuart Ullman
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Consider me a glass half full guy. I know in this current system, if I work hard enough there is no opportunity outside my reach.
The burden is on me to work for it.
squistion
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Her own page, sorry she is so out of touch with reality.
Well, then why the hell bring this up?
No country in the world provides all that and no has been calling for it in this country. Was there actually some point you were trying to make in throwing that out there?
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KarmaPolice
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Or, God forbid, maybe only one parent would have to work and the other could stay home with the kids?
I know a handful of families where one parent is baciscally just working for the insurance.
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Sand
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The Commish
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Some self awareness would do you good. I could name thousands of things completely out of your reach and I know nothing about you.Stuart Ullman said:
Grace Under Pressure
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The "free stuff" argument is so rote. No, those policies aren't being proposed so you and your buddies can get free weed.
When we decide as a country that we're going to prioritize the health and well-being of all Americans by ensuring that kids and their moms have health insurance, families have a place to live and an opportunity to work, once we decide that we're prioritizing people over corporations, then then we figure out how to accomplish it. Maybe we put tax rates back. Maybe we tax inheritances over $5 million again. Maybe we cut defense spending after decades of talking about it. The actual execution can come over time.
But first we need to get past this "free stuff" mentality. For example, people do know that individuals pay monthly premiums for Medicare, right? It's not "free"? Not only through taxation, but through actual premium payments paid by Medicare beneficiaries every month. So maybe housing might not be so different, if we put our minds to it. AOC may not have every aspect figured out yet, but it's easily worth the conversation. Instead of shutting it down on "free stuff" and stereotypes of who receives public assistance.
Also, you have an inheritance class that doesn't work a day in their lives, lives in mansions in gated communities, and relaxes on 40 foot boats registered to obscure islands in the Caribbean. Yet somehow I never hear anything about them working hard or paying their fair share. Take a look at what the tax code did for these people and then get back to me about hard work and whether there's really "unlimited opportunity" for everyone through hard work.
For the record, I don't begrudge the inheritance class. It just makes no sense to prioritize them in the tax code. Yet, here we are, the 98.8%, arguing over "free stuff" while actual children are homeless and actual families are without health insurance.
When we decide as a country that we're going to prioritize the health and well-being of all Americans by ensuring that kids and their moms have health insurance, families have a place to live and an opportunity to work, once we decide that we're prioritizing people over corporations, then then we figure out how to accomplish it. Maybe we put tax rates back. Maybe we tax inheritances over $5 million again. Maybe we cut defense spending after decades of talking about it. The actual execution can come over time.
But first we need to get past this "free stuff" mentality. For example, people do know that individuals pay monthly premiums for Medicare, right? It's not "free"? Not only through taxation, but through actual premium payments paid by Medicare beneficiaries every month. So maybe housing might not be so different, if we put our minds to it. AOC may not have every aspect figured out yet, but it's easily worth the conversation. Instead of shutting it down on "free stuff" and stereotypes of who receives public assistance.
Also, you have an inheritance class that doesn't work a day in their lives, lives in mansions in gated communities, and relaxes on 40 foot boats registered to obscure islands in the Caribbean. Yet somehow I never hear anything about them working hard or paying their fair share. Take a look at what the tax code did for these people and then get back to me about hard work and whether there's really "unlimited opportunity" for everyone through hard work.
For the record, I don't begrudge the inheritance class. It just makes no sense to prioritize them in the tax code. Yet, here we are, the 98.8%, arguing over "free stuff" while actual children are homeless and actual families are without health insurance.
Alexandria Ocasio Cortez
This woman is totally ridiculous. Thankfully only 5% went out and voted which means hopefully enough next time will get off their rear ends and vote this fool out. I totally hope her getting elected was a glitch and next time around she'll sink like the Titanic.
This woman is totally ridiculous. Thankfully only 5% went out and voted which means hopefully enough next time will get off their rear ends and vote this fool out. I totally hope her getting elected was a glitch and next time around she'll sink like the Titanic.
Radio Free Homer
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Yes, totally ridiculous. And thank you for being our arbiter of ridiculousness, I can't think of anyone more qualified.
Juxtatarot
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That dude is criticizing someone else’s logic while actually bringing up the “love it or leave it” argument.
That's your problems with it? How about the other 98.5% of the content of the video?
Also, in my opinion, the Scandinavian countries are not doing so good lately. Not to the Venezuela point but having problems.
Radio Free Homer
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Officer Pete Malloy
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No. No they aren’t.
Does that mean we should emulate them? Maybe/maybe not.
But stop trying to use them as some example of failure.
Not going to argue with you, I take back my statement because it has to do with immigration and I am not going to go there.
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