Official Donald J. Trump Impeachment (Whistleblower) Thread (1 Viewer)

timschochet · Oct 4, 2019

Those texts are more direct evidence than I ever thought that they would have. They are more direct evidence than the Watergate tapes.

Its up to the Republicans now.

Don't Noonan · Oct 4, 2019

Joe Summer said:
Bill Clinton, 1998: "As the President of the United States, I have an absolute right, perhaps even a duty, to have sexual relations with that woman, Monica Lewinsky. And that would include lying under oath about it."

Another Adam Schiff parody?

timschochet · Oct 4, 2019

TripItUp said:
Yeah, a lot of Americans don't have kids and a lot of Americans don't want to go to college.

So yeah, not on board.

Have you read these text messages? Do you believe that President Trump has committed impeachable offenses with regard to Ukraine?

apalmer · Oct 4, 2019

TheMagus said:
Yep. And even using the language "no quid pro quo" - it was like they were setting up their defense ahead of time. I want you to do X thing in exchange for Y result, but it's NOT A QUID PRO QUO. See I said it right there. Case closed. Perfectly legal and proper. SHIFTY SCHIFF. CROOKED BIDEN. COVFEFE.

"Remember, guys, don't say 'This is a robbery'. Just give the teller the note saying you want all the money in the drawer and show her your gun. That way if we're caught you can just say you were only intending to make a withdrawal from your account and you're sorry she misunderstood."

Don't Noonan · Oct 4, 2019

timschochet said:
Have you read these text messages? Do you believe that President Trump has committed impeachable offenses with regard to Ukraine?

Yes.

No.

SaintsInDome2006 · Oct 4, 2019

Don't Noonan said:
Yes.

No.

Well the Trumpites have their quid pro quo now. It was never necessary for a crime to be committed but there you have it. Now it’s just reflexive defense of the leader.

TripItUp · Oct 4, 2019

CNN: "Look at the text messages!!"

FOX: "Democrats are afraid to impeach! Schiff's shifty timeline!"

:popcorn:

Is this another Russia to rally the Dem base to compensate for lackluster candidates and ideas/policy?

Juxtatarot · Oct 4, 2019

Don't Noonan said:
No.

Let's pretend there was a transcript of a new call and Trump told the Ukrainian President, "I want you to investigate Joe and Hunter Biden and look for that lost server. If you don't, I am going to withhold the aid. This is a quid pro quo." Would you support impeachment then?

msommer · Oct 4, 2019

Juxtatarot said:
Let's pretend there was a transcript of a new call and Trump told the Ukrainian President, "I want you to investigate Joe and Hunter Biden and look for that lost server. If you don't, I am going to withhold the aid. This is a quid pro quo." Would you support impeachment then?

spit out the hook, gb

Insomniac · Oct 4, 2019

SaintsInDome2006 said:
Well the Trumpites have their quid pro quo now. It was never necessary for a crime to be committed but there you have it. Now it’s just reflexive defense of the leader.

Have we reached the point that defenses of Trump should be treated the same as defenses of Young Earth Creationism?

SaintsInDome2006 · Oct 4, 2019

TripItUp said:
CNN: "Look at the text messages!!"

FOX: "Democrats are afraid to impeach! Schiff's shifty timeline!"

Yeah you should probably look at the evidence and make up your mind.

IMO Trump instructed Ukraine to start an investigation of the 2016 election in exchange for a White House visit and they needed to do that to get aid to defend themselves from an invasion. And apparently the reason is that Trump disbelieves his own IC & DOJ and instead believes Putin that forces inside Ukraine hacked the DNC and influenced the election, not the Russians & Putin. And Trump himself wants them to influence 2020 in his favor.

Tell me why I’m wrong.

Don't Noonan · Oct 4, 2019

SaintsInDome2006 said:
Well the Trumpites have their quid pro quo now. It was never necessary for a crime to be committed but there you have it. Now it’s just reflexive defense of the leader.

The text messages are referring to Crowdstrike not Biden

SaintsInDome2006 · Oct 4, 2019

Don't Noonan said:
The text messages are referring to Crowdstrike not Biden

See my note above to Trip. Same thing to Trump.

Ditkaless Wonders · Oct 4, 2019

Henry Ford said:
The only thing better than the same joke twice is the same joke seven times. I learned that from David Letterman.

I'm thinking there may be a Ray Walston joke in here.

toshiba · Oct 4, 2019

TripItUp said:
apalmer said:

And if hard working people pay into the "American College Education Fund" so their kids can receive benefits from them? And that lets those kids earn more money so SS & Medicare are more well-funded, letting you get even more from them?

Click to expand...

Yeah, a lot of Americans don't have kids and a lot of Americans don't want to go to college.

So yeah, not on board.

Same could be said for High School, but we still pay for it. Nowadays at least trade school or 2 year degree is a minimal education for a fair living.

SaintsInDome2006 · Oct 4, 2019

Literally the only people who are selling this crap are in the Kremlin and they don’t even believe it.

toshiba · Oct 4, 2019

TripItUp said:
CNN: "Look at the text messages!!"

FOX: "Democrats are afraid to impeach! Schiff's shifty timeline!"

Is this another Russia to rally the Dem base to compensate for lackluster candidates and ideas/policy?

No we love our candidates

SaintsInDome2006 · Oct 4, 2019

Insomniac said:
Have we reached the point that defenses of Trump should be treated the same as defenses of Young Earth Creationism?

It’s possible, it’s flat out bonkers or willing self-delusion. One just happens to be President.

Don't Noonan · Oct 4, 2019

SaintsInDome2006 said:
See my note above to Trip. Same thing to Trump.

No quid pro quo. Not threatening to withhold anything. Nothing wrong with investigating past election interference. Heck, that is what you guys wanted all along.

jamny · Oct 4, 2019

SaintsInDome2006 said:
Yeah you should probably look at the evidence and make up your mind.

IMO Trump instructed Ukraine to start an investigation of the 2016 election in exchange for a White House visit and they needed to do that to get aid to defend themselves from an invasion. And apparently the reason is that Trump disbelieves his own IC & DOJ and instead believes Putin that forces inside Ukraine hacked the DNC and influenced the election, not the Russians & Putin. And Trump himself wants them to influence 2018 in his favor.

Tell me why I’m wrong.

Because 2018 was last year.

SaintsInDome2006 · Oct 4, 2019

Don't Noonan said:
No quid pro quo. Not threatening to withhold anything. Nothing wrong with investigating past election interference. Heck, that is what you guys wanted all along.

“POTUS really wants the deliverable.”

Sammy3469 · Oct 4, 2019

So Trumps no quid pro quo defense goes up in smoke, so we’re left with it’s OK to seek foreign assistance. Just sickening. All Republicans should be ashamed of themselves, but I’m sure they’re not.

SaintsInDome2006 · Oct 4, 2019

jamny said:
Because 2018 was last year.

It’s already been edited mon frere.

IvanKaramazov · Oct 4, 2019

Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
I really have to know who came up with the brilliant strategy of challenging the whistleblower complaint as hearsay when you know there's a metric #### ton of corroborating evidence days from being disclosed.

Whoever coined the term "Stupid Watergate" should be feted as a national hero.

Don't Noonan · Oct 4, 2019

SaintsInDome2006 said:
“POTUS really wants the deliverable.”

Not going to work, sorry

sho nuff · Oct 4, 2019

TripItUp said:
CNN: "Look at the text messages!!"

FOX: "Democrats are afraid to impeach! Schiff's shifty timeline!"

Is this another Russia to rally the Dem base to compensate for lackluster candidates and ideas/policy?

The texts show a clear quid pro quo.

Fox's spin at this point isn't even denying its impeachable...just that the Democrats may be afraid of the political fallout when the GOP does nothing in the Senate.

As for Candidates and policy...they are miles ahead of Trump on policy and as people.

Juxtatarot · Oct 4, 2019

IvanKaramazov said:
Whoever coined the term "Stupid Watergate" should be feted as a national hero.

John Oliver?

TheMagus · Oct 4, 2019

Can someone explain to me like I am someone who doesn't follow Qanon what exactly Trump wanted Ukraine to investigate about Crowdstrike, a US based company? How would they even go about doing that?

sho nuff · Oct 4, 2019

Don't Noonan said:
The text messages are referring to Crowdstrike not Biden

Crowdstrike is "help with a political campaign"?

You are trying too hard man...

hagmania · Oct 4, 2019

Don't Noonan said:
Not going to work, sorry

Maybe not for 100% of folks, but I think it might be working for you.

caustic · Oct 4, 2019

jamny said:
What was the "interview" they were talking about at the bottom of Page 8?

My understanding is that it’s a press interview where Ukraine announces investigations into Biden / election interference.

Sheriff Bart · Oct 4, 2019

timschochet said:
Those texts are more direct evidence than I ever thought that they would have. They are more direct evidence than the Watergate tapes.

Its up to the Republicans now.

Trump said it isn't illegal. Case settled.

Sammy3469 · Oct 4, 2019

TheMagus said:
Can someone explain to me like I am someone who doesn't follow Qanon what exactly Trump wanted Ukraine to investigate about Crowdstrike, a US based company? How would they even go about doing that?

He just wants Biden and investigation in the same headline. His abuse of power has already succeeded in that respect.

Mile High · Oct 4, 2019

Mr. Ham said:
Republicans have killed America as it was constructed, and as we knew it. It’s already dead. We’ve come to a moment when a clear standard has been crossed by miles and they’ve nearly to a man chosen to deny all semblance that they care about country over party. The fact we are even here is too late, too far gone.

Agree. Time for the Democrats and Republicans to get a divorce and move on from each other. Everyone will be happier in the end.

SaintsInDome2006 · Oct 4, 2019

Don't Noonan said:
Not going to work, sorry

See my original point to you. Not trying to work you, just inform you. What you do after that is up to you. Crack dealers have been convicted on less.

Ditkaless Wonders · Oct 4, 2019

I have seen obliviousness to evidence to this level before. Of course it was fiction, art. Now life imitates art.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXc3O6GMZt0

Skoo · Oct 4, 2019

Donald J. Trump

As President I have an obligation to end CORRUPTION, even if that means requesting the help of a foreign country or countries. It is done all the time. This has NOTHING to do with politics or a political campaign against the Bidens. This does have to do with their corruption!

Oh Donnie, no one is buying it buddy.

dozer · Oct 4, 2019

TripItUp said:
CNN: "Look at the text messages!!"

FOX: "Democrats are afraid to impeach! Schiff's shifty timeline!"

Is this another Russia to rally the Dem base to compensate for lackluster candidates and ideas/policy?

No. It’s the president leveraging aid for political favors, which is illegal.

msommer · Oct 4, 2019

IvanKaramazov said:
Whoever coined the term "Stupid Watergate" should be feted as a national hero.

I heard it first on "Last Week Tonight with John Oliver"

SaintsInDome2006 · Oct 4, 2019

Skoo said:
Donald J. Trump

As President I have an obligation to end CORRUPTION, even if that means requesting the help of a foreign country or countries. It is done all the time. This has NOTHING to do with politics or a political campaign against the Bidens. This does have to do with their corruption!

Oh Donnie, no one is buying it buddy.

To paraphrase Dean Wormer, fat, corrupt and stupid is no way to go through life, Don.

hagmania · Oct 4, 2019

Did he ask China about Warren as well, or am I making that up

timschochet · Oct 4, 2019

Sammy3469 said:
He just wants Biden and investigation in the same headline. His abuse of power has already succeeded in that respect.

Yep. CNN reported yesterday that 43% of the public believes that Biden did something wrong in Ukraine. Based on no evidence whatsoever.

So if Trump is not removed for this and either manages to eliminate Biden or severely weaken him, he will have accomplished all of his goals here.

msommer · Oct 4, 2019

Mile High said:
Agree. Time for the Democrats and Republicans to get a divorce and move on from each other. Everyone will be happier in the end.

"Semi-United States of America" and "Ameristan" have sued for divorce....

timschochet · Oct 4, 2019

Skoo said:
Donald J. Trump

As President I have an obligation to end CORRUPTION, even if that means requesting the help of a foreign country or countries. It is done all the time. This has NOTHING to do with politics or a political campaign against the Bidens. This does have to do with their corruption!

Oh Donnie, no one is buying it buddy.

Except that many are.

msommer · Oct 4, 2019

SaintsInDome2006 said:
To paraphrase Dean Wormer, fat, corrupt and stupid is no way to go through life, Don.

It was a run for 70+ years....

Ned · Oct 4, 2019

Skoo said:
Donald J. Trump

As President I have an obligation to end CORRUPTION, even if that means requesting the help of a foreign country or countries. It is done all the time. This has NOTHING to do with politics or a political campaign against the Bidens. This does have to do with their corruption!

Oh Donnie, no one is buying it buddy.

And he waited until now to make it a big issue because...

Amused to Death · Oct 4, 2019

Are Republicans Senators starting to feel anti-Trump pressure from their constituents?

GOP senator confronted at town hall over her 'silence' on Trump's behavior: 'Where is the line?'

“Where is the line? When are you guys going to say, ‘Enough’ and stand up and say, ‘You know what, I’m not backing any of this’? ... You still stand there, silent, and your silence is supporting him," said Haskins.

sho nuff · Oct 4, 2019

Ned said:
And he waited until now to make it a big issue because...

To people who are informed...its because he got caught.

To others...Ive not yet heard the talking point explaining that.

Skoo · Oct 4, 2019

Mr. Ham said:
I wish that were true. Millions upon millions are. GOP is doubling down and airing factually untrue ads promoting the Biden conspiracy theory and justifying the behavior. People are buying it, and GOP is actively seeking to normalize it.

timschochet said:
Except that many are.

I apologize, it should have been worded "no one who isn't already ok watching you shoot someone on 5th avenue" is buying it, Donnie.

Skoo · Oct 4, 2019

sho nuff said:
To people who are informed...its because he got caught.

To others...Ive not yet heard the talking point explaining that.

It's a coincidence! That's all!

Sure, there are thousands and thousands of criminals out there. But you know Donny Trump, there's nothing he cares about more than upholding the law. The fact that he's so incredibly interested in Joe Biden has nothing to do with being the Democratic front-runner for 2020, he just really cares about justice that much!

- This is what people are actually hoping you'll believe.

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