Snorkelson
Footballguy
Mueller has nothing to do with the impeachment trial. Schiff is not “acting special counsel” because that’s not a thing.
And from where I’m sitting the house has not never started impeachment.
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And from where I’m sitting the house has not never started impeachment.
apalmer
Footballguy
joffer
Footballguy
Snorkelson
Footballguy
Santayana goodbye! Bernie started the fire, it was always berning since the world was turning....
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Lamar Alexander to announce his decision on witnesses tonight.
Sheriff Bart
Footballguy
I'm self depreciating. Expecting a huge refund this year.Ditkaless Wonders said:
zoonation
Footballguy
As we sit here on the eve of what is all but a fait accompli regarding shutting down a “trial” that never actually started, I’m reminded of all the doomsday prophecies that were offered up as soon as Trump shocked the world in November 2016.
Most of those predictions can be effectively reduced to some version of a coming storm of authoritarianism. As someone who has studied political science, philosophy and law, I dismissed these fears as fantastical; America is the foundational modern western democratic model that has always served as a lighthouse to both established and aspiring democracies, in whatever form. For all of her geo-political faults and missteps, America as a domestic enterprise has always been the gold standard, especially when one considers the size of the population the system governs.
But those fantastical predictions I dismissed are now very real. Trump has effectively neutered one of the co-equal branches of government in the American Presidential system and reduced its masters to loyal lords in his new Kingdom. The rule of law has been cast aside in favour of the cultivation and maintenance of power.
If you told me back in November 2016 what would be happening tomorrow I would have laughed and suggested you need to lay off the Michael Moore documentaries.
When the senate votes tomorrow to flush this “trial” down the drain, America will find itself charting a new course. A course that will only embolden corruption and diminish the rule of law more and more.
crazy, crazy times.
Most of those predictions can be effectively reduced to some version of a coming storm of authoritarianism. As someone who has studied political science, philosophy and law, I dismissed these fears as fantastical; America is the foundational modern western democratic model that has always served as a lighthouse to both established and aspiring democracies, in whatever form. For all of her geo-political faults and missteps, America as a domestic enterprise has always been the gold standard, especially when one considers the size of the population the system governs.
But those fantastical predictions I dismissed are now very real. Trump has effectively neutered one of the co-equal branches of government in the American Presidential system and reduced its masters to loyal lords in his new Kingdom. The rule of law has been cast aside in favour of the cultivation and maintenance of power.
If you told me back in November 2016 what would be happening tomorrow I would have laughed and suggested you need to lay off the Michael Moore documentaries.
When the senate votes tomorrow to flush this “trial” down the drain, America will find itself charting a new course. A course that will only embolden corruption and diminish the rule of law more and more.
crazy, crazy times.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
If you call Dentist he can probably recommend someone so you don’t have to do it yourself.Ditkaless Wonders said:
Henry Ford
Footballguy
It rises to the level of OJ after brushing your teeth.rockaction said:
Good post, totally agree except for the “didn’t know in 2016” part. It’s always been apparent to me that this was a last gasp power grab, otherwise how could anyone reasonable support Trump? He was a convenient tool with built in brand recognition and appeal to...those people. Now authoritarian white minority rule will become entrenched. They have the courts, add voter suppression and state propaganda and, well, things are grim. We’ve learned what this country is about.
rockaction
Footballguy
That is the taste it leaves. Warner and Blumenthal asked an excellent question, it seems to me. Any thoughts, anyone? How compromised does our new motive/public interest standard leave us?
I don't like it one bit.
dkp993
Footballguy
I’d like to be, unfortunately I’ve run some preliminary numbers and I’m getting hosed again. These “tax cuts” have kicked my ###.
rockaction
Footballguy
Or the New Radicals...
I thought this was Nicki at the beginning of My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, but I was wrong.
rockaction
Footballguy
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Sheriff Bart
Footballguy
I was talking about my body. I'm totally tight and rewarding but at a price to my joints. Too much zumba. Might have to go back to law school. Judging by Trump's representation it's pretty easy.
Also the "tax cuts" killed me too. :(
Coach Morris Buttermaker
Footballguy
Pretty sure there were 17 witnesses. Why does everyone keep peddling this false narrative of no witnesses.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Sheriff Bart
Footballguy
We're back to you can't impeach Trump because it's an election year.
Enough of this nonsense, I'm tapping out.
Enough of this nonsense, I'm tapping out.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
McConnell, the man who prevented hearings for the appointment of a Supreme Court nominee, and who prevented witnesses at an impeachment trial. Quite the anticonstitutional innovator.
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
Sheriff Bart
Footballguy
moleculo
Footballguy
Dems would be smart to make "anarchy" a buzz word going forward. The Republicans are anarchists. The Senate has bowed to Trump and they believe he is above the law. Without the rule of law it will be anarchy.
How do you tell working class people not to lie, cheat and steal when the Republicans in Senate will not even admit Trump did anything wrong let alone impeachable. They could say what Trump did was inappropriate but not impeachable. We will use our oversight to make sure he doesn't make that mistake again. These Senators are not starving. They hold their money and power so dear that they can't even admit just a hint of wrongdoing. They can't risk it. They will lie, cheat and steal to keep theirs. Your integrity should not be for sale. Theirs? We are talking big money and power here people. Plus they where suits. For some reason that makes it palatable. Do as they say not as they do.
How do you tell working class people not to lie, cheat and steal when the Republicans in Senate will not even admit Trump did anything wrong let alone impeachable. They could say what Trump did was inappropriate but not impeachable. We will use our oversight to make sure he doesn't make that mistake again. These Senators are not starving. They hold their money and power so dear that they can't even admit just a hint of wrongdoing. They can't risk it. They will lie, cheat and steal to keep theirs. Your integrity should not be for sale. Theirs? We are talking big money and power here people. Plus they where suits. For some reason that makes it palatable. Do as they say not as they do.
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Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
Does the estate of Johnny Cochran receive royalties with the President's team having busted out the Chewbacca Defense?
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
Damn I do love the classics.
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
Wow, I see that Flea Bailey is still alive, disbarred, but alive. They should get the band back together again.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
So they've orchestrated this so the retiring guy casts the deciding vote? Seems like a safe no then?
Henry Ford
Footballguy
bigmarc27
Footballguy
Her question to Chief Justice Roberts put a nail in her coffin today. It was completely inappropriate and made her look petulant.
timschochet
Footballguy
Lamar Alexander is about to announce how he’s going to vote! Can’t bear the suspense...
Henry Ford
Footballguy
I give no credit to any unless there are enough to change things. Otherwise I’m assuming everyone agreed to let her look good.
joffer
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
Henry Ford
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
Who will be the more disappointing Lamar this month: Jackson or Alexander?
timschochet
Footballguy
Lamar says there is “no need for more witnesses.”
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
Lamar!
timschochet
Footballguy
Lamar says what Trump did was inappropriate but it doesn’t rise to the level of impeachment.
timschochet
Footballguy
Murkowski: needs the night to think it through.
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