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★★★Official 2013 Cincy Bengals Inseason Thread (2 Viewers)
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Danish Bengal
Footballguy
Zimmer and Gruden are mentioned a lot in the threads for the teams searching for a new HC. That makes me nervous as hell. What do you guys think?
Also, watched the game between SD and KC's back-ups yesterday. That did NOT make me nervous as hell. SD can't beat the Bengals. Only the Bengals can. Here's to limiting turnovers and stupid penalties!
Also, watched the game between SD and KC's back-ups yesterday. That did NOT make me nervous as hell. SD can't beat the Bengals. Only the Bengals can. Here's to limiting turnovers and stupid penalties!
Timmay
Footballguy
I absolutely do not want to lose Zimmer.
As for Gruden, this wouldn't sting nearly as much as losing Zimmer would. It wouldn't hurt to get some new offense in here. Only thing I don't like is having Dalton changing schemes.
I feel fairly confident about the Bengals coming out with a win this weekend, but it is the Bengals so I am always nervous regardless. I just hope it sells out, so I can watch it on TV.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
If Gruden goes there's probably a good chance that Hue takes his place as OC. There's probably at least an outside chance that Hue ends up landing a job in one of these places either as HC or OC. Losing Zimmer would be a tougher hit for sure, but the man certainly deserves the opportunity to be the head guy somewhere (ideally with an owner that doesn't get into his stuff - I don't the positions that are still open, outside maybe Detroit, have that however. I cannot imagine him being Snyder's guy for example. The greedy Bengal fan in me of course wants him to stay 
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Rushmore
Footballguy
Agree. I would prefer to have them both back, but would hate to lose Zimmer moreso than Gruden. We really need to win this game!
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Why are there tickets still available to the tune of about 8,000-10,000? What am I missing? Very winnable game, playoff home victories are hard to come by. I remember being at the Flutie-Fiedler Bowl in Miami about 13-15 years ago, I remember Eric Moulds killing us but pulling it out late for a Miami win before we got clocked the next week.
Support the team.
Support the team.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Probably for the same reason Indy and Green Bay are having the same issue. Holidays aren't a cash-rich time for folks and relatively late notice on when exactly the game would be. The NFL sets the prices as well which could be part of the issue. Speaking for myself it's a 630-mile drive (which is a bit too much) and the flight would be $500-plus. Not that there's a large out-of-town base for the Bengals or Colts.
The weather ain't helping I'm sure in the case of Green Bay and Cincy as well.
-QG
doowain
Footballguy
A few notes:
- Single game tickets didn't go on sale until Monday I believe? Before that you had to buy a 2 game pack and then be reimbursed if they didn't get a 2nd home playoff game. Seriously, that is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. And the main reason I didn't buy my ticket until the single game option was available.
- Colts and Packers haven't sold out either.
- We sold out every home game this year, so this SHOULD sell out too.
- Christmas/New Year's....maybe people are tapped for funds?
- Cincinnati's population is only 296K. Sure there are a lot of surrounding areas, but still. This isn't a huge city, like Boston for instance (636K).
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
San Diego's defense didn't show up in the 1st half. On the offensive side of the ball, SD receivers dropped several catchable deep balls, balls they normally snag. And the INT was a fluke; KAllen feel down coming out of his break.
Overall, just a poor game for the Chargers. But I think you're selling them short if you think they can't beat the Bengals, These are two fairly evenly matched teams. You guys have by far a better defense, but I'd argue we have a significant advantage at the most important position on the field (QB).
Going to be a great game. Sunday morning can't get here quick enough!
Timmay
Footballguy
Any word on it being sold out? I read something yesterday that there was 3,500 tickets left after a few area businesses bought some tickets. I hope 3,500 tickets can be bought up today by 4.
Predictions for the game.
Bengals 30 Chargers 17
Dalton: 254 yards with 2 TD's 1 Int
Gio: 85 total yards 1 TD
Green: 92 yards 1 TD
Bengals defense is going to come up big.
Predictions for the game.
Bengals 30 Chargers 17
Dalton: 254 yards with 2 TD's 1 Int
Gio: 85 total yards 1 TD
Green: 92 yards 1 TD
Bengals defense is going to come up big.
doowain
Footballguy
Won't be 37 all day. Snow in the morning. And expecting the heaviest snowfall in 3rd and 4th quarters when it dips back below freezing. Anyway....that's what the "experts" are predicting.Um, how is it going to snow if it's 37 degrees outdoowain said:Sounds like freezing rain to me.
Anyhow, pumped for this game
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Riversco
Footballguy
If it sold out immediately, then the price of tickets was too low. The perfect price point for tickets is where they sell out just a couple days before the game. So the league has them priced pretty well I think.
Danish Bengal
Footballguy
Danish Bengal
Footballguy
QG, you can start the 2014 off season thread now. We have a lot to discuss...
Bob Magaw
Footballguy
Marvin Lewis explicitly addressed the elephant in the room recently, in stating that until Dalton wins a playoff game, the rumblings will continue (right or fair or not).
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BoltzNBrew
Footballguy
Wooohooo Pack your bags for Denver!
jurb26
Footballguy
The problem is, there is no easy or realistic way to replace Dalton. He's better than the FA options just about any given year and Cinci is good enough with him that they won't be in a position to draft a guy. It's almost like adaption is a mad genius who has created the ultimate job security for himself.
JetMaxx
Footballguy
Exactly.
Danish Bengal
Footballguy
Good posting. Dalton is only the fifth QB in NFL history to make the playoffs in his first three seasons (Luck and Wilson be no. 6 and 7 next year). Problem is he plays quite bad in the spotlight, be it playoffs or S/MNF. He will probably retire as the only QB to make the playoffs 12 years in a row. And he will be 0-12 in the playoffs. Sucks indeed
Danish Bengal
Footballguy
Marvins presser:
"Turnovers decided the game"
"No, I don't have any questions regarding Andy being our QB in the future"
"Yes, I felt good at half time"
"We played a good football team that made fewer errors than we did"
Only unusual thing was that he looked really, really, really disappointed. Yes, of course he should be, but He genuinely was way down. He didn't bring his usual goofy I-don't-give-a-damn look
"Turnovers decided the game"
"No, I don't have any questions regarding Andy being our QB in the future"
"Yes, I felt good at half time"
"We played a good football team that made fewer errors than we did"
Only unusual thing was that he looked really, really, really disappointed. Yes, of course he should be, but He genuinely was way down. He didn't bring his usual goofy I-don't-give-a-damn look
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
I have had a vibe that Marvin may move on.
Bob Magaw
Footballguy
Probably right this year, though Dalton was himself a second rounder.
The Bengals have historically been a very patient/tolerant franchise, almost to a fault. But good point, unclear what better options would be available. Wilson was an improbable find for SEA in the third (and not sure they want to start a controversy with that high a pick), but perhaps they could try and strike gold with a mid-round gem and discovery like Foles? What is the current backup/developmental QB situation?
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Danish Bengal
Footballguy
Josh Johnson is the backup
McElroy on PS
Zac Robinson on IR/PUP
I like the idea of trying to strike gold with a 3rd/4th. Where we draft the top 5 QB's will be gone anyway
Bob Magaw
Footballguy
thanks, and yeah, they need a backup/developmental-type upgrade. maybe torn ACL twins aaron murray or mettenberg (who might have have been a borderline first rounder before the injury, or at least a second round possibility), they could fall to the third or fourth if not even lower, and represent bargains? 2014 probable redshirt year, giving dalton's inevitable 2014 season another year to prove himself and the organization another, possibly last, evaluation. also, mccarron's star may be on the wane, boyd on the up?
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
Dalton's gonna get hammered for this one (& he wasn't good), but the Bengals OL was terrible today.
I'm telling you guys - as a Ravens fan, I know from being able to win it all with flaky QBs and you could do a whole lot worse than Dalton.
That being said, it may be time for Marvin to move on. Not because I think he's a bad coach, but sometimes it's just time for a change (saw it here with Billick).
I'm telling you guys - as a Ravens fan, I know from being able to win it all with flaky QBs and you could do a whole lot worse than Dalton.
That being said, it may be time for Marvin to move on. Not because I think he's a bad coach, but sometimes it's just time for a change (saw it here with Billick).
In regards to Marvin Lewis...
Through 11 seasons Lewis is 90-90-1. He's 0-5 in the playoffs. He's a good coach and I appreciate him turning the Bengals into a respectable team (considering the train wreck it was prior to him). But I think it's time to move on. He will have NO trouble finding another HC gig. It's simply time for a change IMO. Windows are very small in the NFL and I would hate to miss out on this opportunity with the roster we have now.
Through 11 seasons Lewis is 90-90-1. He's 0-5 in the playoffs. He's a good coach and I appreciate him turning the Bengals into a respectable team (considering the train wreck it was prior to him). But I think it's time to move on. He will have NO trouble finding another HC gig. It's simply time for a change IMO. Windows are very small in the NFL and I would hate to miss out on this opportunity with the roster we have now.
jurb26
Footballguy
I wonder what kind of trade value Dalton would garner if Cinci like moving him. I'm not saying I think they should. You never know what you might get as a replacement and Dalton has proven able to win a lot of games. Still, I wonder what QB needy teams like Oak, Jack, Minn, Hou, Clev or others would be willing to give up for him. He's probably an average to above average starting QB in the NFL. For a lot of teams, that would be a huge upgrade.
Bob Magaw
Footballguy
Sanchez made the playoffs his first two years, but that wasn't a good indicator in his case. Of course, Dalton is better, and was much better value where he went.
What was Matt Ryan's playoff record when he was at a comparable stage of development, seems like he had a rep for not being a good playoff QB... until he won a playoff game? If he lost a few initially, the moral there, he turned out OK.
Arm strength is a prevalent question (even a thread about it). If he has somewhat hinky arm strength, is it possible this is compounded in the winter when the elements can play a bigger role in the eventual outcome, and the wind can be a bigger factor (obviously if he has lost in domed stadiums or in warm weather environments, that would be irrelevant, but otherwise, it could be relevant?).
What was Matt Ryan's playoff record when he was at a comparable stage of development, seems like he had a rep for not being a good playoff QB... until he won a playoff game? If he lost a few initially, the moral there, he turned out OK.
Arm strength is a prevalent question (even a thread about it). If he has somewhat hinky arm strength, is it possible this is compounded in the winter when the elements can play a bigger role in the eventual outcome, and the wind can be a bigger factor (obviously if he has lost in domed stadiums or in warm weather environments, that would be irrelevant, but otherwise, it could be relevant?).
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
I think arm strength is important but overblown. Ask the Ravens if Dalton can't get the ball downfield
There's no doubt in my mind Cincy can win a SB with Dalton. Get Adkins back and maybe one more playmaker on D (God knows, the O has enough of 'em) - that team has "Champ" written all over it.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
okay new thread is here: http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=702667&st=0&p=16390722
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Raider Nation
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I don't have numbers to back this up, but I don't think teams fire a "defensive" HC and then replace him with another defensive coach very often.
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