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HA, ESPN has him going to Atlanta at 11Statorama said:Snotbubbles said:With another year of development, he'd be a logical favorite for #1 overall next year.I think he just took a look and realized he might end up in Atlanta or Milwaukee and said Hell No, I'll roll the dice next year.
I do1 - Oden - Portland 2 - Durant - Seattle 3 - Conley - Atlanta 4 - Brewer - Memphis 5 - Yi - Boston 6 - Horford - Milwaukee 7 - B. Wright - Minnesota 8 - Noah - Charlotte 9 - Hawes - Chicago from New York 10 - J. Wright - Sacramento 11 - Hibbert - Atlanta from Indiana 12 - Jeff Green - Philadelphia 13 - Al Thornton - New Orleans/OKC 14 - Acie Law - L.A. Clippers 15 - Rodney Stuckey - Detroit from Orlando 16 - Thaddeus Young - Washington 17 - Nick Young - New Jersey 18 - Jason Smith - Golden State 19 - Javaris Crittenton - L.A. Lakers 20 - Tiago Splitter - Miami 21 - Josh McRoberts - Philadelphia from Denver 22 - Brandon Rush - Charlotte from Toronto 23 - Sean Williams - New York from Chicago 24 - Ante Tomic - Phoenix from Cleveland 25 - Derrick Byars - Utah 26 - Marco Belinelli - Houston 27 - Daequan Cook - Detroit 28 - Gabe Pruitt - San Antonio 29 - Rudy Fernandez - Phoenix 30 - Glen Davis - Philadelphia from Dallas
This can stay since it's available for Free in their Mock Draft Machine once you submit your picks.
He certainly will not be back as a Blazer!!! BTW, Randolph at center? Please. Oden, Oden!!!
Not a bad first round haul for the Sixers. Sixers also have pick 38 from the Knicks so I wouldn't be surprised if they try to shed one of their 1st round guaranteed contracts to move up or for an '08 pick.
I think and I hope the Bucks draft a big man over Brewer. People seem to forget that the bucks have Bobby Simmons coming back from injury. In a lineup of Williams, Redd, Simmons, Villanueva, Bogut, Bobby Simmons would be the best defender. They need to find a big man to go along with Bogut who can actually defend. Villanueva is a horrible defender, and if Horford is on the board the bucks can fill a need and draft the best player available. Villanueva looked really bad this year, he's got a long way to go before becoming a very good player.Colin Dowling said:
This would be mucho smart IMO for the 6ers...
I was just thinking about that! I have seen a couple of early mock drafts that show them grabbing Brandan Wright and that's laughable. Like they need another relatively unpolished 6'10 guy who is a greyhound in the open court. They need a PG badly. I could see them grabbing Yian - if you believe the hype - and picking up a PG later in the draft. Otherwise, I don't see much point in them staying at 1.3...
Since the 76ers PF platoon last year was Steven Hunter and Joe Smith, I'm onboard with ANY PF they take in the first round. I have no problem with Green or Hawes at #12 and fortunately there are no project 7 footers on the board this year (Seattle's old MO) for them to waste a selection on. Yi won't be available either, so no sweat there.Looking at 21, they already have a McRoberts clone - Shavlik Randolph has busted his ### to improve and is a solid defender and rebounder off the bench. With Webber gone (and Randolph healthy) he may even score a little.
Green is a steal at 12. I absolutely love his game. I think he gets unfairly nicked because of his lack of aggressiveness when the reality is that when you play college ball with a dominant force like Hibbert, you have to play inside-out.Green will excel in the pro game.
I think he was limited in the Princeton offense as well. I'm hoping he doesn't return to school.
More like his stock is dropping like a rock and he has zero chance of going in the top 6 (and maybe not even top 10) so he elected to go back to school.He'll still be a stiff entering the NBA next year though.Statorama said:
A year of yoga, strength training, and working on his face up game could do wonders for Hibbert.
I agree. I saw him just flat-out dominate at times, but I also saw him take plenty of plays off. He needs a year to mature.
Agree, Green has "Josh Howard" written all over him... to me anyway. Great mid range game. Comfortable everywhere on the court, good vision, unselfish...etc.
People are forgetting this DRAFT is deep with talent.Celtics are learning towards Al Horford(florida) or Brandon Wright from UNC.Boston's not a bad team than most people think.Sure,they tanked games,everyone else did sorta.(Minnesota,Bucks,Memphis too.)Colin Dowling said:Love that the two best players are ending up in the West. Stern had to bewhen the list was made. So, are we thinking...1. Port - Oden2. Sea - Durant3. Atl - Conley4. Memphis - Horford / Jianlian5. Celtics - Hibbert / Horford6. Bucks - Brewer
I like Green and think he will be a good player. But the fact that they already have Iggy and drafted Carney last year, I think he would be another tweener between SG and SF. If Hibbert does come out, I would like to see them use the picks they have to move up to get him. Even if Hibbert isn't there, I could see them trying to move up with either their first or second pick. I think that Green and Thorton will both be good players, but I think that Law has a chance to be special.
I like Wright quite a bit for the Celtics. He needs to make his jumper a little more consistent as well as put at least 10 lbs of muscle on. As it stands, he looks like Kerry Kittles brother. With a reliable jumper, he could play SF on occassion when the matchup dictates it. Perkins should not be a starter in this league.Horford, I like a lot, can be a contributor and even a starter with the right team. I see him as a bad fit for the C's tho...ETA: I think Memphis is either going to grab Jianlian or trade down. They need a PG and/or someone in the paint. Hakim Warrick played well for them when he started. Damon & Chucky are backups. I can see them trading down for Law or Crittenden...People are forgetting this DRAFT is deep with talent.Celtics are learning towards Al Horford(florida) or Brandon Wright from UNC.Boston's not a bad team than most people think.Sure,they tanked games,everyone else did sorta.(Minnesota,Bucks,Memphis too.)Colin Dowling said:Love that the two best players are ending up in the West. Stern had to be
Just like Darko.
You really think at 6'8 225 Green is a tweener? Seems like a pretty legit SF.
Pritchard(GM for the Blazers) said he is looking at a couple of specific free agents-especially in light of the lottery results. He would entertain trade offers for players, but absolutely NOT for the #1 pick.Oden will be a Blazer!!!Maybe Rashard Lewis also in a sign and trade for Randolph??? Okay, I'm dreaming here.C OdenPF AldridgeSF _________Free agent-maybe Lewis(Udoka is a great role player-like Bowen for SA)SG RoyPG Rodriguez(Outstanding in the open court) Youth, talent and athleticism. Should be fun.With Randolph gone(or coming off the bench), the Blazers could have on offense like Phoenix and maybe a defense like San Antonio. Martell Webster, F Jones, Pryzbilla, Jack and Randolph(Udoka) would make a pretty good second unit.Leeroy Jenkins said:
I think that might be a good play on their part. I'm really high on Conley so I'd love to see the Kings try and move up. If they could get maybe Bibby and the #10 pick from Sacramento for the 3, I think they should do that.
The Bulls already have those guys in Deng and Nocionni(sp?). They desperately need an interior scorer.Perhaps. I was just thinking that with Deng, Gordon, Hinrich, and Nocioni they have plenty of firepower but only one ball to go around. Someone like Noah who can play good defense, pass well, and not need 15 shots a game to be effective would be solid for them. I realize they aren't really the same style of player, but as a Rockets fan whowhen the Rockets gave up Rudy Gay for Battier, I was shocked at how much better Battier made the Rockets just by doing 3 or 4 things no one else wanted to do and doing them really well. I think Noah has the ability to do that same type of thing.
thats a pipe dreamproninja said:#### no. We at least have some developing talent down low in Wilcox/Collison/Swift (I can dream, can't I?) and I want absolutely nothing to do with Randolph for free, much less giving up Lewis for him. I can't get myself to believe that a team with Zach Randolph (albeit as the #3 option) can win squat.I know I'm just a dumb homer right now, but with all this talk of Stoudemire possibly getting moved, is there any way phoenix considers something with Lewis? I think stoudemire/durant/allen would make me wet myself.Like I mentioned before, the idea of a Randolph-for-Lewis sign-and-trade seems pretty intriguing to me.
thats not a mock...just a ranking of the players. I don't know why thye put the teams up there because I can see how it confuses people.RedRaiders said:
I think Ainge is looking between Jeff Green ,Al Thornton & Corey Brewer.In the end I think Green is a lock at 5 for the Celtics.People are forgetting this DRAFT is deep with talent.Celtics are learning towards Al Horford(florida) or Brandon Wright from UNC.Boston's not a bad team than most people think.Sure,they tanked games,everyone else did sorta.(Minnesota,Bucks,Memphis too.)Colin Dowling said:Love that the two best players are ending up in the West. Stern had to be
Um, no. That will not happen. Allen is not getting traded, if you are truly a Seattle fan, why would you even want that? It wont happen anyway. That would be nice if they signed Billups, if not I would be all for doing a sign and trade with Lewis for a legit C or PG if indeed Durant is the pick.Sonics draft DurantSonics sign Billups(they were 25th in salary this past year so I assume that they have tons of space)Resign Lewis to a reasonable deal. If he demands too much then go after FA Gerald Wallace.Trade Ray Allen for Pao Gasol. If that doesn't work, try for RAy Allen, Earl Watson, and a draft pick for KG. Throw in draft picks and other crap if they demand it.Starting 5G BillupsSG Wallace or LewisSF DurantPF WilcoxC Garnett or Gasol
NBAdraft.net is not a mock draft. It is just a ranking of the prospects totally ignoring the teams that are drafting.Ive been following NBAdraft.net for some time , thier predictions over the years have been .RedRaiders said:
The do have a nice layout and decent info about the prospects though.
He played bad in the last game in which they lost, but didn't he play great and hit the game winner in the game before??
It was actually a Blazers beat writer, and I wasn't suggesting a straight up trade.You deserve to get bashed if you suggest that Oden = Randolph/Aldridge or that Gasol provides "veteran leadership".Assani Fisher said:Was this article written by a Grizzlies beat writer? I'd be interested in seeing similar articles from other homer journalists ("Blazers should trade for a veteran leader such as Stephon Marbury," etc.)
Statorama said:Snotbubbles said:
I think he just took a look and realized he might end up in Atlanta or Milwaukee and said Hell No, I'll roll the dice next year.
Beasley, Rose, Mayo, Buddinger, Green(if he stays), Gordon, and a few others I'd take ahead of him right now imo. Of course a lot will depend upon how well some of these freshmen do next year.If by "reasonable" you mean "less than the max."...not gonna happen. The Orlando Capellas are throwing max dough at him, I'm pretty sure.Assani Fisher said:
This right after you post:Assani Fisher said:thats a pipe dreamproninja said:#### no. We at least have some developing talent down low in Wilcox/Collison/Swift (I can dream, can't I?) and I want absolutely nothing to do with Randolph for free, much less giving up Lewis for him. I can't get myself to believe that a team with Zach Randolph (albeit as the #3 option) can win squat.I know I'm just a dumb homer right now, but with all this talk of Stoudemire possibly getting moved, is there any way phoenix considers something with Lewis? I think stoudemire/durant/allen would make me wet myself.Like I mentioned before, the idea of a Randolph-for-Lewis sign-and-trade seems pretty intriguing to me.
Hideki has a pretty good point. That scenario is insane.You've got double the posts in this thread that the 2nd most frequent poster has. Maybe take a breather?This right after you post:Assani Fisher said:thats a pipe dreamproninja said:#### no. We at least have some developing talent down low in Wilcox/Collison/Swift (I can dream, can't I?) and I want absolutely nothing to do with Randolph for free, much less giving up Lewis for him. I can't get myself to believe that a team with Zach Randolph (albeit as the #3 option) can win squat.I know I'm just a dumb homer right now, but with all this talk of Stoudemire possibly getting moved, is there any way phoenix considers something with Lewis? I think stoudemire/durant/allen would make me wet myself.Like I mentioned before, the idea of a Randolph-for-Lewis sign-and-trade seems pretty intriguing to me.
I don't get too worked up about the lottery but if they do change it I think they should go to a tiered lottery system. Group the selection order into picks (1,2,3) - (4,5,6) - (7,8,9) - (10,11,12) - (13,14). Within each group the lottery odds are decided by having the most wins. So the team with the third worst record would actually have the best chance at the top pick, while the team with the worst record can't pick lower than #3. While it doesn't completely eliminate the potential for tanking it does significantly mitigate it as teams are rewarded for having a better record. The team with the 4th worst record in particular might have some motivation to try to get into the bottom 3 tier, but if they miss they boost their odds of falling to #6.
Not as fun as making them play for it...but I think the idea you propose actually has merit.
I saw that he turned down a 2 year $25 million extension in Feb. The owner, before the draft, said he was committed to re-signing him. Now, I'm sure he's happy to walk away if he can't trade him...
They should be trying to do a sign and trade with Lewis. Durant is a better version, younger, and (currently) cheaper. Random brainstorm: If Vince Carter goes to Charlotte, why not dangle Lewis as a sign and trade to Jersey for Marcus Williams?
Think about how much different the late season games would between the teams within those tiers. Right now they are a snooze fest where neither team has an incentive to win, but under the tiered system they would be almost be like playoff games. I agree that it wouldn't be as exciting as one single game, but I think this would deliver a few more interesting and competitive games every year.
I would seed it according to "record against playoff teams". That way, if you're team is truly bad and gets the crap kicked out of it by the Spurs/Pistons/Etc. all season, you get a higher pick that can (hopefully) genuinely improve your team. But your record against the other crummy (non-playoff) teams isn't factored in, so a late season game between the Bucks and Celtics is still money well spent for fans who want to catch a game.
With the Nets current salaries, I don't know if any sign and trade would work with them...Kidd and Jefferson are the only two guys making anything on that team.
How could he turn down a deal like that? Oh wait, I thought we were talking about Latrell Sprewell for a minute there. Sorry about that.
