CentralPA
Footballguy
\Either way the Eagles may have screwed the pooch. They are going to have to use more cap money to keep Mathis then they want to I think and that isn't good for getting Shady locked in for long term.
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*** 2012 Official Philadelphia Eagles Post Mortem Thread *** (1 Viewer)
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CentralPA
Footballguy
Agreed. Although it would suck to lose him I think Mudd is good at pointing out what lineman would be good for his scheme and this year he'll have mini-camps and a full training camp to develop them. They could still draft Kuechly and then go lineman with one of their 2nd round picks.
delusional
Footballguy
Didn't the same thing happen with Dawkins?
Insein
Footballguy
What same thing?
Shane Falco
Footballguy
I think he's talking about the implied offer by the Eagles to match the contract (like they failed to do in Dawkins case).However I don't see it as the same thing. As a player Dawkins was done and that was a poor contract for the Eagles to match. I think this is a different case here with Mathis as he still has some good years left.'Insein said:
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Am I alone in being a little hesitant on Mathis? He came out of nowhere and depending on the money I'm OK with letting him walk.
Insein
Footballguy
I'd be more comfortable letting him walk if I had more faith in watkins. If I knew Danny boy would step in and be an instant stud this year, Mathis can take a hike if he wants too much.
Shane Falco
Footballguy
this is where I am as well.
JetMaxx
Footballguy
See above
delusional
Footballguy
Mathis didn't really come out of no where like someone said. He had a good year with the Bengals prior and was considered a very underrated signing by the Eagles,
Letting him go would be a big mistake. The impact it would have on shady would be huge too as I believe a good chunk of his yards came from the left side.
Not to mention there is nothing stellar or 'this year' promising at depth.
We all seen what happened early in the season last year with a line that was new, why would you want to break that up now?
Letting him go would be a big mistake. The impact it would have on shady would be huge too as I believe a good chunk of his yards came from the left side.
Not to mention there is nothing stellar or 'this year' promising at depth.
We all seen what happened early in the season last year with a line that was new, why would you want to break that up now?
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
With the longer offseason this year, drafting a guy (like DeCastro) might be the play if Mathis want too much money.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
I don't know how he was rated but he is a soon to be 31 year old on his 4th team after being a 3rd round pick. I'm not sure you want to enter a bidding war with him especially when there's other OL still availible in FA.JMO, anyway.
Awful Waffle
Footballguy
I'd like Vick's replacement to be more than three years younger than him.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
Extremely interested. But for what he'll cost, I doubt the Eagles will be.
Terpman22
Footballguy
We have enough pass rushers.
Sunday@1
Footballguy
Der Herm. - I would love to see the Birds make a play for M. Tolbert. King Andy has shown to like this type of player in past; Jon Ritchie, L. Weaver and has also drafted a few of the like. Does your contact have any info if he is on Birds radar? Put me on the Tolbert Train...
Awful Waffle
Footballguy
I saw that Carolina and Pittsburgh are the two finalists for Tolbert. And the Eagles don't run the ball enough to really justify paying whatever Tolbert's going to ask for either.
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Terpman22
Footballguy
Not sure why Carolina is in the discussion then
Awful Waffle
Footballguy
Evan Mathis signed to a 5 year/25 million dollar deal, 7 million guaranteed. And his tweet:
To all the Eagles fans who offered me various food and incentives to return... I've come to collect. #FLY
To all the Eagles fans who offered me various food and incentives to return... I've come to collect. #FLY
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
That's good. Starting offensive line signed for the next couple of years.
JaxBill
Footballguy
Plus, isn't he underweight for 4-3 DE?
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
So far it's been a perfect offseason IMO. Returning all 5 starting OL will be huge next year. As far as I know all the FA LBers are still availible as is Landry so there's still a chance we can add one of them.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Agreed. Very strong start to the new season. Mathis cost us a lot less than I thought too, as he was clearly the best interior lineman left on the market.I want this Shady McCoy extension done, too, and then see what we can get in terms of veteran LB and S help. We don't need stars at those positions, just proven vets who can compete against our current crop.
Donny Loved Bowling
Footballguy
Considering the state of the market, Eagles should be able to get a great deal of help without spending a great deal of money. London Fletcher, Jim Leonhard, Plax? None of them should cost too much, but would be valuable additions.
JetMaxx
Footballguy
At that price it's a fantastic re-signing by the Birds.
loose circuits
Footballguy
i disagree thinking the Mathis signing was great if Winston signed for 4 for 22, would have rather had him and kicked Herremans back to LG
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Mathis graded out by PFF as THE top guard in the league last year, and we know he can play at an elite level in our existing system. While I like Winston -- a lot -- we have to remember he thrived in a zone blocking scheme that's not at all like the system Mudd runs.
Terpman22
Footballguy
If if's were a fif, we'd all be drunk. Can only go off of what is happening right now. Log run must be to keep the fireplace warm
Jason Wood
Zoo York
What are you talking about? Mathis got a meager $7mm guaranteed, we aren't risking anything financially in keeping him. And as I mentioned earlier, he was PFTs top rated guard in the NFL last year.'Nagle2998 said:
Insein
Footballguy
I am happy that we go into this season with an o-line that is intact unlike last year. Hopefully with a full off-season and the cohesion they showed down the stretch, O-line will be the least of our worries this year.
I'm still holding out irrational hope that the reason we haven't signed a veteran LB is because they plan on jumping up to grab Kuechley. One can dream. Either way, LB and Safety have to be in the top 3 picks. Jarrett showed nothing to give him the benefit of the doubt just yet.
I'm still holding out irrational hope that the reason we haven't signed a veteran LB is because they plan on jumping up to grab Kuechley. One can dream. Either way, LB and Safety have to be in the top 3 picks. Jarrett showed nothing to give him the benefit of the doubt just yet.
Donny Loved Bowling
Footballguy
Eagles have any interest in Jacobs? He's certainly killed us enough over the years... would be nice to bring him in as Shady's backup, adding a much-needed short yardage option.
Insein
Footballguy
God I hate Jacobs. I'd have mixed feelings about him being an Eagle if it happens. He's not good enough like an emmitt smith or Troy aikman that I'd overlook the fact that I hated his guts if he now suddenly played for us.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Unless he wants to come here for the league minimum there just isnt a point. He'd get 1-2 carries per game and Shady seemed fine running in short yardage.'Donny Loved Bowling said:
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
Not trying to get anyone's hopes up, but the Eagles had had some draft discussions with KC. My guess would be that they're trying to position themselves to move up to draft the LB everyone's been clamoring for as he's expected to go about there. Note that no players names were mentioned to me, I filled in the blanks here.
Anyway, just passing along what I know....
Anyway, just passing along what I know....
Shane Falco
Footballguy
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
You have my hopes up about the trade but I'd bet it won't be for a LBer. I hope I'm wrong but if they go up its for OL or DL. JMO anyway.
MightyMice
Footballguy
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#Eagles today announced they have signed G/C Mike Gibson to a two-year contract and C/G Steve Vallos to a one-year contract.
Any knowledge about these guys? Know we need(ed) some depth. Mudd ok these two, thinks they're a good fit?
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#Eagles today announced they have signed G/C Mike Gibson to a two-year contract and C/G Steve Vallos to a one-year contract.
Any knowledge about these guys? Know we need(ed) some depth. Mudd ok these two, thinks they're a good fit?
zadok
Footballguy
We drafted Gibson in 08. Backup at best. Likely camp bodies.
zadok
Footballguy
Terpman22
Footballguy
While I like LK, I see us trading up to snatch Poe.Kuechly at 11 sounds about right.
Insein
Footballguy
This is exactly what I'm hoping for and envisioned them shooting for. The 10 spot would get said LB. The other thing that puts hope on my side is that they so screwed up the Earl Thomas thing. An all pro safety waiting right there for you when you've spent 2 seasons post Dawkins looking for one and you go for an overachieving, combine warrior in Graham. So perhaps with that mistake still glaring at them in the face, they will learn.
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