2012 Packers Offseason (1 Viewer)

[Touchdown There]

Sabertooth, do you expect Cobb to eclipse 1k this year? I like Cobb's talent but I just can't see it happening barring an injury to Jennings or Nelson. You can say Finley is overrated (and he may be) but he's still a pretty big part of the offense. He had 750+ yds and 8 TDs last year and most thought he underperformed. I'd expect him to be about the same in terms of numbers, and it would be next to impossible for Nelson/Jennings/Cobb to be over 1k with Finley around 700-800. I just don't think it's realistic to expect Cobb to be a viable option this season - he could easily get 600-700 yds and 5-6 TDs, but that's not someone I'd be happy plugging in my lineup on a weekly basis.

I don't think it is realistic either, and I really like Cobb. Demoting Jones below Cobb would cause Jones to blow a gasket. There is only so much disrespect a guy is going to take, and Jones thinks he is better than Jordy. This is why he needs to be traded for peanuts.

 

[Touchdown There]

Sabertooth, do you expect Cobb to eclipse 1k this year? I like Cobb's talent but I just can't see it happening barring an injury to Jennings or Nelson. You can say Finley is overrated (and he may be) but he's still a pretty big part of the offense. He had 750+ yds and 8 TDs last year and most thought he underperformed. I'd expect him to be about the same in terms of numbers, and it would be next to impossible for Nelson/Jennings/Cobb to be over 1k with Finley around 700-800. I just don't think it's realistic to expect Cobb to be a viable option this season - he could easily get 600-700 yds and 5-6 TDs, but that's not someone I'd be happy plugging in my lineup on a weekly basis.

I don't think it is realistic either, and I really like Cobb. Demoting Jones below Cobb would cause Jones to blow a gasket. There is only so much disrespect a guy is going to take, and Jones thinks he is better than Jordy. This is why he needs to be traded for peanuts.

Meaning a happy locker room and a late round draft pick is worth much more than James Jones.

 

[Mr Rodgers neighborhood]

Sabertooth, do you expect Cobb to eclipse 1k this year? I like Cobb's talent but I just can't see it happening barring an injury to Jennings or Nelson. You can say Finley is overrated (and he may be) but he's still a pretty big part of the offense. He had 750+ yds and 8 TDs last year and most thought he underperformed. I'd expect him to be about the same in terms of numbers, and it would be next to impossible for Nelson/Jennings/Cobb to be over 1k with Finley around 700-800. I just don't think it's realistic to expect Cobb to be a viable option this season - he could easily get 600-700 yds and 5-6 TDs, but that's not someone I'd be happy plugging in my lineup on a weekly basis.

Just for the sake of discussion, it's safe to say that the Packers will produce 4,500 yards through the air.Let's also say that Greg Jennings puts up 1200 yards.Jordy Nelson puts up 1100 yards.J. Finley puts up 800 yards.We're at 3,100 yards.Lets assume that the rotation at WR3 ends as Cobb beats out both Jones and Driver. If James Jones is relegated to the 4th WR, and Driver is the 5 and takes on a mentor role, but not a massive game day role then I think it's probably that Cobb flirts with 1,000 yards.

 

[todisco1]

Sabertooth, do you expect Cobb to eclipse 1k this year? I like Cobb's talent but I just can't see it happening barring an injury to Jennings or Nelson. You can say Finley is overrated (and he may be) but he's still a pretty big part of the offense. He had 750+ yds and 8 TDs last year and most thought he underperformed. I'd expect him to be about the same in terms of numbers, and it would be next to impossible for Nelson/Jennings/Cobb to be over 1k with Finley around 700-800. I just don't think it's realistic to expect Cobb to be a viable option this season - he could easily get 600-700 yds and 5-6 TDs, but that's not someone I'd be happy plugging in my lineup on a weekly basis.

Just for the sake of discussion, it's safe to say that the Packers will produce 4,500 yards through the air.Let's also say that Greg Jennings puts up 1200 yards.Jordy Nelson puts up 1100 yards.J. Finley puts up 800 yards.We're at 3,100 yards.Lets assume that the rotation at WR3 ends as Cobb beats out both Jones and Driver. If James Jones is relegated to the 4th WR, and Driver is the 5 and takes on a mentor role, but not a massive game day role then I think it's probably that Cobb flirts with 1,000 yards.

I would think that would be the best 4 fantasy recievers in history (or close to it) from the same team. I mean there have only been a few times with 3 receivers on a team having 1k seasons, but this team will all of a sudden have 3 WRs with 1k and a TE with 800? I haven't looked it up, I could be wrong, but I'd think that's never been done before. I know it's a passing league now but I have serious doubts that is a realistic prediction.

 

[Touchdown There]

Sabertooth, do you expect Cobb to eclipse 1k this year? I like Cobb's talent but I just can't see it happening barring an injury to Jennings or Nelson. You can say Finley is overrated (and he may be) but he's still a pretty big part of the offense. He had 750+ yds and 8 TDs last year and most thought he underperformed. I'd expect him to be about the same in terms of numbers, and it would be next to impossible for Nelson/Jennings/Cobb to be over 1k with Finley around 700-800. I just don't think it's realistic to expect Cobb to be a viable option this season - he could easily get 600-700 yds and 5-6 TDs, but that's not someone I'd be happy plugging in my lineup on a weekly basis.

Just for the sake of discussion, it's safe to say that the Packers will produce 4,500 yards through the air.Let's also say that Greg Jennings puts up 1200 yards.Jordy Nelson puts up 1100 yards.J. Finley puts up 800 yards.We're at 3,100 yards.Lets assume that the rotation at WR3 ends as Cobb beats out both Jones and Driver. If James Jones is relegated to the 4th WR, and Driver is the 5 and takes on a mentor role, but not a massive game day role then I think it's probably that Cobb flirts with 1,000 yards.

I would think that would be the best 4 fantasy recievers in history (or close to it) from the same team. I mean there have only been a few times with 3 receivers on a team having 1k seasons, but this team will all of a sudden have 3 WRs with 1k and a TE with 800? I haven't looked it up, I could be wrong, but I'd think that's never been done before. I know it's a passing league now but I have serious doubts that is a realistic prediction.

What about the running backs catching out of the backfield?

 

[Sabertooth]

Sabertooth, do you expect Cobb to eclipse 1k this year? I like Cobb's talent but I just can't see it happening barring an injury to Jennings or Nelson. You can say Finley is overrated (and he may be) but he's still a pretty big part of the offense. He had 750+ yds and 8 TDs last year and most thought he underperformed. I'd expect him to be about the same in terms of numbers, and it would be next to impossible for Nelson/Jennings/Cobb to be over 1k with Finley around 700-800. I just don't think it's realistic to expect Cobb to be a viable option this season - he could easily get 600-700 yds and 5-6 TDs, but that's not someone I'd be happy plugging in my lineup on a weekly basis.

I am thinking of cobb as a nice wr4

 

[Mr Rodgers neighborhood]

Sabertooth, do you expect Cobb to eclipse 1k this year? I like Cobb's talent but I just can't see it happening barring an injury to Jennings or Nelson. You can say Finley is overrated (and he may be) but he's still a pretty big part of the offense. He had 750+ yds and 8 TDs last year and most thought he underperformed. I'd expect him to be about the same in terms of numbers, and it would be next to impossible for Nelson/Jennings/Cobb to be over 1k with Finley around 700-800. I just don't think it's realistic to expect Cobb to be a viable option this season - he could easily get 600-700 yds and 5-6 TDs, but that's not someone I'd be happy plugging in my lineup on a weekly basis.

Just for the sake of discussion, it's safe to say that the Packers will produce 4,500 yards through the air.Let's also say that Greg Jennings puts up 1200 yards.Jordy Nelson puts up 1100 yards.J. Finley puts up 800 yards.We're at 3,100 yards.Lets assume that the rotation at WR3 ends as Cobb beats out both Jones and Driver. If James Jones is relegated to the 4th WR, and Driver is the 5 and takes on a mentor role, but not a massive game day role then I think it's probably that Cobb flirts with 1,000 yards.

I would think that would be the best 4 fantasy recievers in history (or close to it) from the same team. I mean there have only been a few times with 3 receivers on a team having 1k seasons, but this team will all of a sudden have 3 WRs with 1k and a TE with 800? I haven't looked it up, I could be wrong, but I'd think that's never been done before. I know it's a passing league now but I have serious doubts that is a realistic prediction.

History doesn't matter. The passing stats that are being put up right now are unheard of, so what happened 5-10 years ago is outdated. I for one don't think Finley puts up 800, or Nelson puts up 1100, and I buy into Randall Cobb. I'm not saying that those numbers from above are going to happen, just that in the new age of passing it's certainly attainable.

 

[todisco1]

Sabertooth, do you expect Cobb to eclipse 1k this year? I like Cobb's talent but I just can't see it happening barring an injury to Jennings or Nelson. You can say Finley is overrated (and he may be) but he's still a pretty big part of the offense. He had 750+ yds and 8 TDs last year and most thought he underperformed. I'd expect him to be about the same in terms of numbers, and it would be next to impossible for Nelson/Jennings/Cobb to be over 1k with Finley around 700-800. I just don't think it's realistic to expect Cobb to be a viable option this season - he could easily get 600-700 yds and 5-6 TDs, but that's not someone I'd be happy plugging in my lineup on a weekly basis.

Just for the sake of discussion, it's safe to say that the Packers will produce 4,500 yards through the air.Let's also say that Greg Jennings puts up 1200 yards.Jordy Nelson puts up 1100 yards.J. Finley puts up 800 yards.We're at 3,100 yards.Lets assume that the rotation at WR3 ends as Cobb beats out both Jones and Driver. If James Jones is relegated to the 4th WR, and Driver is the 5 and takes on a mentor role, but not a massive game day role then I think it's probably that Cobb flirts with 1,000 yards.

I would think that would be the best 4 fantasy recievers in history (or close to it) from the same team. I mean there have only been a few times with 3 receivers on a team having 1k seasons, but this team will all of a sudden have 3 WRs with 1k and a TE with 800? I haven't looked it up, I could be wrong, but I'd think that's never been done before. I know it's a passing league now but I have serious doubts that is a realistic prediction.

History doesn't matter. The passing stats that are being put up right now are unheard of, so what happened 5-10 years ago is outdated. I for one don't think Finley puts up 800, or Nelson puts up 1100, and I buy into Randall Cobb. I'm not saying that those numbers from above are going to happen, just that in the new age of passing it's certainly attainable.

I agree it's possible, but it's not probable IMO. I would never draft Cobb expecting 1,000 yds this season.

 

[Faust]

Randall Cobb to remain on Packers' return game

By Gregg Rosenthal

Around The League editor

We included Green Bay Packers second-year player Randall Cobb as part of our "Making the Leap" series because of his potential at wide receiver. He's already made the leap to being one of the best return men in the NFL.

Cobb finished second in the NFL in kickoff return average last year and seventh in punts. The Packers would wind up facing the same question that the Bears get asked with Devin Hester each year: Will Green Bay sacrifice some of its return game by using Cobb at receiver?

That shouldn't be a problem for 2012. Special teams coordinator Shawn Slocum told Jason Wilde of ESPNMilwaukee.com that Cobb will remain in his return role no matter what he's doing on offense.

"It's all in the perspective, of how you look at the return game. It is the first play of the offense?" Slocum said in a Sunday report. "It's vitally important to setting up field position, the potential to score, things of that nature."

This is what you call a high-class problem. If Cobb was ever to move off returns, it probably wouldn't come until 2013. The Packers have more than enough depth at wideout to increasingly use Cobb as a reserve receiver without burning him out. James Jones and Donald Driver will get plenty of snaps off the bench, too.

 

[SWC]

i think you will see cobber the touchdown robber used in a lot more wasy than just catching passes he might be taking handoffs and pitches and running it like a crazy wild beast man out of the backfield headed to the endzone like a metorite from the touchdown dimension take that to the bank brohans so you might not see it in wr yards but his total yards might be pretty impressive and tds too

 

[King of the Jungle]

i think you will see cobber the touchdown robber used in a lot more wasy than just catching passes he might be taking handoffs and pitches and running it like a crazy wild beast man out of the backfield headed to the endzone like a metorite from the touchdown dimension take that to the bank brohans so you might not see it in wr yards but his total yards might be pretty impressive and tds too

i think you might be on to something there he seems like a very versatile player who should be involved in many aspects of the game plan including the backfield were he would pose as a threat every time he touches the ball even if it means some wildcat action where he could yell "Geronimo" and burst in for a touchdown or just sneak out of the backfield for a quick pass in space and then take it to the house like the man he is

 

[Faust]

i think you will see cobber the touchdown robber used in a lot more wasy than just catching passes he might be taking handoffs and pitches and running it like a crazy wild beast man out of the backfield headed to the endzone like a metorite from the touchdown dimension take that to the bank brohans so you might not see it in wr yards but his total yards might be pretty impressive and tds too

i think you might be on to something there he seems like a very versatile player who should be involved in many aspects of the game plan including the backfield were he would pose as a threat every time he touches the ball even if it means some wildcat action where he could yell "Geronimo" and burst in for a touchdown or just sneak out of the backfield for a quick pass in space and then take it to the house like the man he is

 

[Faust]

If Graham Harrell flops, Packers reportedly want a vet

By Marc Sessler

Writer

The Green Bay Packers don't strike us as a panicky bunch, but here's something to ponder: Mike McCarthy's team is one Aaron Rodgers injury away from starting Graham Harrell at quarterback.

Wait. Who?

Consider it an experiment. Harrell, who's never thrown a pass in a regular-season game, is on a tight leash. If he "flops" during training camp, the Packers will likely dive into the market for a veteran quarterback, according to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

Behind the undrafted Harrell sits seventh-round rookie B.J. Coleman, not exactly a comforting notion.

The Packers want to see how Harrell responds through training camp. Coach McCarthy helped turn the once-anonymous Matt Flynn into a well-prepared, productive fill-in for Rodgers, and believes he can do the same with Harrell.

"I'll say this about Graham: I've always been impressed with the progress he's made with every opportunity he's been given," McCarthy told the newspaper. "This is clearly his best opportunity of his professional career. He's getting better. It's right there for him as far as being the No. 2."

If the Packers pursue a veteran, Colt McCoy sits out there as a natural fit. Mired in a frustrating situation with the Cleveland Browns, McCoy would benefit from a fresh start and we expect the team to shop him before the season. McCoy bring has been hot and cold in his 21 starts but brings experience with the West Coast attack. He's only 24-years-old and, best of all, McCoy would cost Green Bay next to nothing.

 

[cr8f]

If Graham Harrell flops, Packers reportedly want a vet

By Marc Sessler

Writer

The Green Bay Packers don't strike us as a panicky bunch, but here's something to ponder: Mike McCarthy's team is one Aaron Rodgers injury away from starting Graham Harrell at quarterback.

Wait. Who?

Consider it an experiment. Harrell, who's never thrown a pass in a regular-season game, is on a tight leash. If he "flops" during training camp, the Packers will likely dive into the market for a veteran quarterback, according to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

Behind the undrafted Harrell sits seventh-round rookie B.J. Coleman, not exactly a comforting notion.

The Packers want to see how Harrell responds through training camp. Coach McCarthy helped turn the once-anonymous Matt Flynn into a well-prepared, productive fill-in for Rodgers, and believes he can do the same with Harrell.

"I'll say this about Graham: I've always been impressed with the progress he's made with every opportunity he's been given," McCarthy told the newspaper. "This is clearly his best opportunity of his professional career. He's getting better. It's right there for him as far as being the No. 2."

If the Packers pursue a veteran, Colt McCoy sits out there as a natural fit. Mired in a frustrating situation with the Cleveland Browns, McCoy would benefit from a fresh start and we expect the team to shop him before the season. McCoy bring has been hot and cold in his 21 starts but brings experience with the West Coast attack. He's only 24-years-old and, best of all, McCoy would cost Green Bay next to nothing.

Reporters., always trying to create a controversy. Matt Flynn was nothing until schooled by McCarthy's staff, I trust McCarthy. I don't see any collapse by Harrell. His arm strength has improved and am not worried.

 

[Faust]

Green Bay Packers could keep six wide receivers

By Brian McIntyre

Around the League writer

After years of keeping between four or five receivers, the Green Bay Packers might have no choice but to keep six players at that position in 2012, Rob Reischel of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel writes.

We know that Greg Jennings, Jordy Nelson and Randall Cobb are safe. So is James Jones, who had just 38 receptions in 2011, but averaged nearly 17 yards on those grabs and added seven touchdowns. Jones ranked fourth among receivers in Football Outsiders' DVOA metric, which represents the value, per play, over an average receiver in the same game situations.

Beyond that, a mix of the Packers' past and potential future will be vying for the final spot or two. "Dancing with the Stars" champion Donald Driver restructured his contract this offseason, which should keep him safe, but stranger things have happened. The top young candidates are Shaky Smithson, who spent last season on injured reserve, and Tori Gurley and Diondre Borel, both of whom spent 2011 on the Packers' practice squad.

According to a source with knowledge of their contracts, both Gurley and Borel received significant pay increases while on the practice squad last season. While players on that list normally earn $5,700 per week, the Packers paid both receivers as if they were on the 53-man roster ($22,059 per week) for the final three weeks of the regular season. Doing so is usually an indicator that another team was attempting to add that player to their active roster, which was the case with Gurley, who turned down an offer from the Minnesota Vikings. Reischel notes that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers wanted to sign Borel.

The Vikings are just one of the receiver-needy teams that could be keeping a close eye on the Packers' roster cuts this summer. Miami Dolphins head coach Joe Philbin was the Packers' offensive coordinator the last few seasons and would certainly have inside information on any non-rookie receiver that shakes free from Green Bay. The same could be said for the Dallas Cowboys, as former Packers receivers coach Jimmy Robinson is now assistant head coach/receivers. The Cowboys lack depth behind Dez Bryant and Miles Austin and could pounce on the Packers' leftovers.

 

[SWC]

i think you will see cobber the touchdown robber used in a lot more wasy than just catching passes he might be taking handoffs and pitches and running it like a crazy wild beast man out of the backfield headed to the endzone like a metorite from the touchdown dimension take that to the bank brohans so you might not see it in wr yards but his total yards might be pretty impressive and tds too

i think you might be on to something there he seems like a very versatile player who should be involved in many aspects of the game plan including the backfield were he would pose as a threat every time he touches the ball even if it means some wildcat action where he could yell "Geronimo" and burst in for a touchdown or just sneak out of the backfield for a quick pass in space and then take it to the house like the man he is

i like the way of your jibb my brohan i would personally like to see more wildcat and other trickery used by nfl teams because it would make the fan experience better and the odds are that if you had cobb lined up somewhere totally crazy like on the line and eligible he could sneak out of his position during what looked like a stunt and then break off a 97 yard sneak run to the outside for a record longest sneak run by a lineman in the history of the nfl take that to the strategery bank brohan

 

[sho nuff]

If you have never done it...I recommend the Lambeau tour.

Most of the history the guide gave was stuff most would know...but getting up in a skybox was pretty cool.

BEst was coming out of the tunnel as they piped in the crowd noise and entrance into the tunnel. Seeing it field level was awesome.

Especially with the new section and scoreboards going up.

 

[Touchdown There]

If you have never done it...I recommend the Lambeau tour.Most of the history the guide gave was stuff most would know...but getting up in a skybox was pretty cool.BEst was coming out of the tunnel as they piped in the crowd noise and entrance into the tunnel. Seeing it field level was awesome.Especially with the new section and scoreboards going up.

Do they give tours year round? Cost?

 

[Sabertooth]

Russ Lande stated on the Audible that the new lineman Andrew Datko has really impressed the team. They asked for him to name a player that was absolutely wowing in camp. He gave them just two: Juron Criner and Andrew Datko.

 

[sho nuff]

If you have never done it...I recommend the Lambeau tour.Most of the history the guide gave was stuff most would know...but getting up in a skybox was pretty cool.BEst was coming out of the tunnel as they piped in the crowd noise and entrance into the tunnel. Seeing it field level was awesome.Especially with the new section and scoreboards going up.

Do they give tours year round? Cost?

Im sure there are times they don't operate the tours during the season...but not really sure when they do stop.Stadium Tour Ticket PricesAdult Combo (18-61): $19 for Stadium Tour & Hall of Fame AdmissionAdults (18-61): $11Seniors (62+): $10Military (with valid military ID): $10Youth (12-17): $10Student (with college student ID): $10Children (6-11): $8Children (5 and under): FREEPulled that straight from the Packers' website.

 

[sho nuff]

Russ Lande stated on the Audible that the new lineman Andrew Datko has really impressed the team. They asked for him to name a player that was absolutely wowing in camp. He gave them just two: Juron Criner and Andrew Datko.

Was hearing things about Datko...but hoping he would not get too much hype and make it to the PS for a year.If the shoulder is healed...he will make a nice pick and would have been drafted higher without the injury.

 

[SWC]

i agree and think that datko was a total steal and if he can get healthy watch out total sleeper to make the team and take over the spot brohans

 

[Sabertooth]

Russ Lande stated on the Audible that the new lineman Andrew Datko has really impressed the team. They asked for him to name a player that was absolutely wowing in camp. He gave them just two: Juron Criner and Andrew Datko.

Was hearing things about Datko...but hoping he would not get too much hype and make it to the PS for a year.If the shoulder is healed...he will make a nice pick and would have been drafted higher without the injury.

I hope he pans out quick. They've had holes in that line since McCarthy took over.

 

[Faust]

Jordy Nelson, James Jones: Green Bay Packers bargains

By Brian McIntyre

Around the League writer

"Around the League" is taking a look at each team's salary-cap situation heading into training camp. We continue with the Green Bay Packers.

Adjusted Cap Number: $128.064 million

Cap Room Remaining: $11.256 million

Best Bargain: There are no shortage of bargains on the Green Bay Packers. Wide receivers Jordy Nelson and James Jones ranked second and 17th in Football Outsiders' DYAR (value of plays where the player caught the ball, compared to replacement level, adjusted for situation and opponent, and then translated into yardage) last season. The duo will combine to earn $5.55 million in 2012, which is $21,000 more than the Oakland Raiders will spend on Darrius Heyward-Bey (who ranked 40th).

Certainly Nelson and Jones would qualify, and we can't overlook Aaron Rodgers, the No. 1 player on NFL Network's "The Top 100: Players of 2012" list, whose $8.5 million compensation in 2012 is the same amount that Arizona Cardinals passer Kevin Kolb will make, but we'll go with outside linebacker Clay Matthews. Even after a "down" year in the sacks department, Matthews still hit and harassed opposing quarterbacks and picked off a career-high three passes. Due $840,000 in total compensation this season, with another $50,000 available in a Pro Bowl incentive, Matthews should be back terrorizing quarterbacks before he enters the final year of his rookie contract in 2013.

Potential Camp Casualty: The Packers have plenty of salary-cap space and one of the lowest cash payrolls in the league, so this shouldn't be an issue for them this season.

Contract Issue Looming in 2013: Greg Jennings is scheduled to earn just under $5 million in the final year of his current contract. The 2006 second-round draft pick has caught 389 passes for 6,171 yards and 49 touchdowns over the last six seasons, earning Pro Bowl honors after each of the last two seasons. Jennings turns 29 in September and is a full season away from moving into the top five of the Packers' record books in every major receiving category. It's hard to envision Jennings playing in a different uniform, and I suspect that won't be an issue. Rodgers has two years and $20.75 million remaining on his current deal, and the Packers might want to think about crossing that off their list next offseason.

 

[sho nuff]

Russ Lande stated on the Audible that the new lineman Andrew Datko has really impressed the team. They asked for him to name a player that was absolutely wowing in camp. He gave them just two: Juron Criner and Andrew Datko.

Was hearing things about Datko...but hoping he would not get too much hype and make it to the PS for a year.If the shoulder is healed...he will make a nice pick and would have been drafted higher without the injury.

I hope he pans out quick. They've had holes in that line since McCarthy took over.

Yeah...TT screwed up first thing in gutting it.Something needed to be done and Rivera, at his age, got way too much from Dallas. Would have been nice to have kept Wahle.

LT now is the only question mark...but thats a big question mark.

Lang did quite well and has found his spot at LG, Sitton at RG and Bulaga at RT is a very good start. Saturday will be solid in the middle for another year or two...need to develop there.

 

[smackdaddies]

If you have never done it...I recommend the Lambeau tour.Most of the history the guide gave was stuff most would know...but getting up in a skybox was pretty cool.BEst was coming out of the tunnel as they piped in the crowd noise and entrance into the tunnel. Seeing it field level was awesome.Especially with the new section and scoreboards going up.

Plus the Hall of Fame - don't forget that alsoIf you are not a regular, and you do get to go - go all the way. Show up on Sat, take the tour, do the Hall, show up early on Sun, tailgate if you can, hit the local watering holes. Make it a weekend - if your a Packer fan, you will not regret the expense.

 

[sho nuff]

If you have never done it...I recommend the Lambeau tour.Most of the history the guide gave was stuff most would know...but getting up in a skybox was pretty cool.BEst was coming out of the tunnel as they piped in the crowd noise and entrance into the tunnel. Seeing it field level was awesome.Especially with the new section and scoreboards going up.

Plus the Hall of Fame - don't forget that alsoIf you are not a regular, and you do get to go - go all the way. Show up on Sat, take the tour, do the Hall, show up early on Sun, tailgate if you can, hit the local watering holes. Make it a weekend - if your a Packer fan, you will not regret the expense.

Yeah...we had some issues that morning and did not get to the HOF. My son was disappointed as he wanted to do the Lambeau Leap thing they have there and see the trophies.Next trip.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Russ Lande stated on the Audible that the new lineman Andrew Datko has really impressed the team. They asked for him to name a player that was absolutely wowing in camp. He gave them just two: Juron Criner and Andrew Datko.

Was hearing things about Datko...but hoping he would not get too much hype and make it to the PS for a year.If the shoulder is healed...he will make a nice pick and would have been drafted higher without the injury.

I hope he pans out quick. They've had holes in that line since McCarthy took over.

Yeah...TT screwed up first thing in gutting it.Something needed to be done and Rivera, at his age, got way too much from Dallas. Would have been nice to have kept Wahle.

LT now is the only question mark...but thats a big question mark.

Lang did quite well and has found his spot at LG, Sitton at RG and Bulaga at RT is a very good start. Saturday will be solid in the middle for another year or two...need to develop there.

I have more of a concern here. Saturday is 37 years old and didn't get much of a demand on the market(from what I recall). He was first or second team All-Pro in 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009...he also made the pro bowl in 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010. Nothing in 2011. Guys fall off quick when they get old and counting on a guy that's 37 is concerning considering he's the middle of your pass protection.Again, this is coming from a Bears fan that saw Olin Kreutz fell off like a rock the last couple of years, he's currently 35.

 

[Faust]

Randall Cobb in line to be Green Bay Packers No. 3 WR

By Gregg Rosenthal

Around The League editor

Training camp is finally almost here. They allow tackling there and everything. Around the League will count down the top 30 position battles to watch throughout the preseason. We already tackled the Seahawks RBs.

No. 29. Packers No. 3 receiver: Donald Driver vs. Randall Cobb vs. James Jones

•We won't know who wins this battle until the regular season starts because they are all going to play. The Packers love to line up three or four wideouts at a time. Some rotation will be used, but Cobb needs to prove in August he's ready for more snaps.

• I've already documented my feelings about Cobb. Even though he will remain a return man, the second-year pro is ready to be a star now. His playing time has to come at the expense of someone.

• Donald Driver is going to make the team after getting a $1.2 million roster bonus along with his new contract. But it's hard to see any scenario where the coaches see him as more dynamic than Cobb and Jones. Driver could be penciled into a third down specialist but his snaps are likely to go down.

• James Jones continues to have problems with drops. It's hard to imagine Jones getting cut, but crazier things have happened. There were strong rumors that Jones was dangled around the league before the draft. A camp trade wouldn't be a shock.

• The Packers could afford to deal Jones because they have promising depth with Tori Gurley and Diondre Borel battling just to make the roster. Yep, the Packers are so loaded that the No. 6 receiver spot looks promising.

Projected winner: Randall Cobb should wind up having the biggest role this season after starters Jordy Nelson and Greg Jennings.

 

[smackdaddies]

Randall Cobb in line to be Green Bay Packers No. 3 WR

By Gregg Rosenthal

Around The League editor

Training camp is finally almost here. They allow tackling there and everything. Around the League will count down the top 30 position battles to watch throughout the preseason. We already tackled the Seahawks RBs.

No. 29. Packers No. 3 receiver: Donald Driver vs. Randall Cobb vs. James Jones

•We won't know who wins this battle until the regular season starts because they are all going to play. The Packers love to line up three or four wideouts at a time. Some rotation will be used, but Cobb needs to prove in August he's ready for more snaps.

• I've already documented my feelings about Cobb. Even though he will remain a return man, the second-year pro is ready to be a star now. His playing time has to come at the expense of someone.

• Donald Driver is going to make the team after getting a $1.2 million roster bonus along with his new contract. But it's hard to see any scenario where the coaches see him as more dynamic than Cobb and Jones. Driver could be penciled into a third down specialist but his snaps are likely to go down.

• James Jones continues to have problems with drops. It's hard to imagine Jones getting cut, but crazier things have happened. There were strong rumors that Jones was dangled around the league before the draft. A camp trade wouldn't be a shock.

• The Packers could afford to deal Jones because they have promising depth with Tori Gurley and Diondre Borel battling just to make the roster. Yep, the Packers are so loaded that the No. 6 receiver spot looks promising.

Projected winner: Randall Cobb should wind up having the biggest role this season after starters Jordy Nelson and Greg Jennings.

and after JFin.....Plus he will be doing all the returns.....he may get more than Jones/Driver....but I still don't see more than 45 rcpt

 

[sho nuff]

Russ Lande stated on the Audible that the new lineman Andrew Datko has really impressed the team. They asked for him to name a player that was absolutely wowing in camp. He gave them just two: Juron Criner and Andrew Datko.

Was hearing things about Datko...but hoping he would not get too much hype and make it to the PS for a year.If the shoulder is healed...he will make a nice pick and would have been drafted higher without the injury.

I hope he pans out quick. They've had holes in that line since McCarthy took over.

Yeah...TT screwed up first thing in gutting it.Something needed to be done and Rivera, at his age, got way too much from Dallas. Would have been nice to have kept Wahle.

LT now is the only question mark...but thats a big question mark.

Lang did quite well and has found his spot at LG, Sitton at RG and Bulaga at RT is a very good start. Saturday will be solid in the middle for another year or two...need to develop there.

I have more of a concern here. Saturday is 37 years old and didn't get much of a demand on the market(from what I recall). He was first or second team All-Pro in 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009...he also made the pro bowl in 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010. Nothing in 2011. Guys fall off quick when they get old and counting on a guy that's 37 is concerning considering he's the middle of your pass protection.Again, this is coming from a Bears fan that saw Olin Kreutz fell off like a rock the last couple of years, he's currently 35.

Having Lang and Sitton next to him will help.The advantage is in still knowing line calls well and his knowledge of defenses.

He is a stop gap for sure.

 

[smackdaddies]

Russ Lande stated on the Audible that the new lineman Andrew Datko has really impressed the team. They asked for him to name a player that was absolutely wowing in camp. He gave them just two: Juron Criner and Andrew Datko.

Was hearing things about Datko...but hoping he would not get too much hype and make it to the PS for a year.If the shoulder is healed...he will make a nice pick and would have been drafted higher without the injury.

I hope he pans out quick. They've had holes in that line since McCarthy took over.

Yeah...TT screwed up first thing in gutting it.Something needed to be done and Rivera, at his age, got way too much from Dallas. Would have been nice to have kept Wahle.

LT now is the only question mark...but thats a big question mark.

Lang did quite well and has found his spot at LG, Sitton at RG and Bulaga at RT is a very good start. Saturday will be solid in the middle for another year or two...need to develop there.

I have more of a concern here. Saturday is 37 years old and didn't get much of a demand on the market(from what I recall). He was first or second team All-Pro in 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009...he also made the pro bowl in 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010. Nothing in 2011. Guys fall off quick when they get old and counting on a guy that's 37 is concerning considering he's the middle of your pass protection.Again, this is coming from a Bears fan that saw Olin Kreutz fell off like a rock the last couple of years, he's currently 35.

Having Lang and Sitton next to him will help.The advantage is in still knowing line calls well and his knowledge of defenses.

He is a stop gap for sure.

I think it is pretty clear they see this as a one year move. I guess they think Evan Dietrich-Smith can step in also.

 

[smackdaddies]

Among centers, Jeff Saturday ranks as the very best in pass-blocking efficiency. While it all came in Indianapolis, Saturday allowed just 27 pressures over 1,873 chances over the last three years.

Wells came in 6th for the same time. I think Jeff still has a year in him

 

[Sabertooth]

Randall Cobb in line to be Green Bay Packers No. 3 WR

By Gregg Rosenthal

Around The League editor

Training camp is finally almost here. They allow tackling there and everything. Around the League will count down the top 30 position battles to watch throughout the preseason. We already tackled the Seahawks RBs.

No. 29. Packers No. 3 receiver: Donald Driver vs. Randall Cobb vs. James Jones

•We won't know who wins this battle until the regular season starts because they are all going to play. The Packers love to line up three or four wideouts at a time. Some rotation will be used, but Cobb needs to prove in August he's ready for more snaps.

• I've already documented my feelings about Cobb. Even though he will remain a return man, the second-year pro is ready to be a star now. His playing time has to come at the expense of someone.

• Donald Driver is going to make the team after getting a $1.2 million roster bonus along with his new contract. But it's hard to see any scenario where the coaches see him as more dynamic than Cobb and Jones. Driver could be penciled into a third down specialist but his snaps are likely to go down.

• James Jones continues to have problems with drops. It's hard to imagine Jones getting cut, but crazier things have happened. There were strong rumors that Jones was dangled around the league before the draft. A camp trade wouldn't be a shock.

• The Packers could afford to deal Jones because they have promising depth with Tori Gurley and Diondre Borel battling just to make the roster. Yep, the Packers are so loaded that the No. 6 receiver spot looks promising.

Projected winner: Randall Cobb should wind up having the biggest role this season after starters Jordy Nelson and Greg Jennings.

and after JFin.....Plus he will be doing all the returns.....he may get more than Jones/Driver....but I still don't see more than 45 rcpt

I see closer to 60.

 

[smackdaddies]

Randall Cobb in line to be Green Bay Packers No. 3 WR

By Gregg Rosenthal

Around The League editor

Training camp is finally almost here. They allow tackling there and everything. Around the League will count down the top 30 position battles to watch throughout the preseason. We already tackled the Seahawks RBs.

No. 29. Packers No. 3 receiver: Donald Driver vs. Randall Cobb vs. James Jones

•We won't know who wins this battle until the regular season starts because they are all going to play. The Packers love to line up three or four wideouts at a time. Some rotation will be used, but Cobb needs to prove in August he's ready for more snaps.

• I've already documented my feelings about Cobb. Even though he will remain a return man, the second-year pro is ready to be a star now. His playing time has to come at the expense of someone.

• Donald Driver is going to make the team after getting a $1.2 million roster bonus along with his new contract. But it's hard to see any scenario where the coaches see him as more dynamic than Cobb and Jones. Driver could be penciled into a third down specialist but his snaps are likely to go down.

• James Jones continues to have problems with drops. It's hard to imagine Jones getting cut, but crazier things have happened. There were strong rumors that Jones was dangled around the league before the draft. A camp trade wouldn't be a shock.

• The Packers could afford to deal Jones because they have promising depth with Tori Gurley and Diondre Borel battling just to make the roster. Yep, the Packers are so loaded that the No. 6 receiver spot looks promising.

Projected winner: Randall Cobb should wind up having the biggest role this season after starters Jordy Nelson and Greg Jennings.

and after JFin.....Plus he will be doing all the returns.....he may get more than Jones/Driver....but I still don't see more than 45 rcpt

I see closer to 60.

so, the over/under is 52.5. I will take the under - what do you want to wager?

 

[SWC]

for cobber the towndown robber i think he will have an impact but it might not show up in wr stats he will return kicks and punts and kick butt there and will probably get nifty runs and such so altho you might see him score a lot of tds at the end of the year the stat line might not look like an allstar level take that to the bank brohans

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Russ Lande stated on the Audible that the new lineman Andrew Datko has really impressed the team. They asked for him to name a player that was absolutely wowing in camp. He gave them just two: Juron Criner and Andrew Datko.

Was hearing things about Datko...but hoping he would not get too much hype and make it to the PS for a year.If the shoulder is healed...he will make a nice pick and would have been drafted higher without the injury.

I hope he pans out quick. They've had holes in that line since McCarthy took over.

Yeah...TT screwed up first thing in gutting it.Something needed to be done and Rivera, at his age, got way too much from Dallas. Would have been nice to have kept Wahle.

LT now is the only question mark...but thats a big question mark.

Lang did quite well and has found his spot at LG, Sitton at RG and Bulaga at RT is a very good start. Saturday will be solid in the middle for another year or two...need to develop there.

I have more of a concern here. Saturday is 37 years old and didn't get much of a demand on the market(from what I recall). He was first or second team All-Pro in 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009...he also made the pro bowl in 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010. Nothing in 2011. Guys fall off quick when they get old and counting on a guy that's 37 is concerning considering he's the middle of your pass protection.Again, this is coming from a Bears fan that saw Olin Kreutz fell off like a rock the last couple of years, he's currently 35.

Having Lang and Sitton next to him will help.The advantage is in still knowing line calls well and his knowledge of defenses.

He is a stop gap for sure.

Knowledge will be there for sure...just worried is all i'm saying.Any word on Sherrod's recovery?

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Among centers, Jeff Saturday ranks as the very best in pass-blocking efficiency. While it all came in Indianapolis, Saturday allowed just 27 pressures over 1,873 chances over the last three years.Wells came in 6th for the same time. I think Jeff still has a year in him

I don't doubt that he was good at pass blocking, but moving forward is my concern.How did he rank in run efficiency? I'm assuming much worse, but just curious.

 

[sho nuff]

Among centers, Jeff Saturday ranks as the very best in pass-blocking efficiency. While it all came in Indianapolis, Saturday allowed just 27 pressures over 1,873 chances over the last three years.Wells came in 6th for the same time. I think Jeff still has a year in him

I don't doubt that he was good at pass blocking, but moving forward is my concern.How did he rank in run efficiency? I'm assuming much worse, but just curious.

Probably no worse than the rest of our line.Not exactly road graders in the run game.Not as long as we keep running this zone blocking crap.

 

[Sabertooth]

Randall Cobb in line to be Green Bay Packers No. 3 WR

By Gregg Rosenthal

Around The League editor

Training camp is finally almost here. They allow tackling there and everything. Around the League will count down the top 30 position battles to watch throughout the preseason. We already tackled the Seahawks RBs.

No. 29. Packers No. 3 receiver: Donald Driver vs. Randall Cobb vs. James Jones

•We won't know who wins this battle until the regular season starts because they are all going to play. The Packers love to line up three or four wideouts at a time. Some rotation will be used, but Cobb needs to prove in August he's ready for more snaps.

• I've already documented my feelings about Cobb. Even though he will remain a return man, the second-year pro is ready to be a star now. His playing time has to come at the expense of someone.

• Donald Driver is going to make the team after getting a $1.2 million roster bonus along with his new contract. But it's hard to see any scenario where the coaches see him as more dynamic than Cobb and Jones. Driver could be penciled into a third down specialist but his snaps are likely to go down.

• James Jones continues to have problems with drops. It's hard to imagine Jones getting cut, but crazier things have happened. There were strong rumors that Jones was dangled around the league before the draft. A camp trade wouldn't be a shock.

• The Packers could afford to deal Jones because they have promising depth with Tori Gurley and Diondre Borel battling just to make the roster. Yep, the Packers are so loaded that the No. 6 receiver spot looks promising.

Projected winner: Randall Cobb should wind up having the biggest role this season after starters Jordy Nelson and Greg Jennings.

and after JFin.....Plus he will be doing all the returns.....he may get more than Jones/Driver....but I still don't see more than 45 rcpt

I see closer to 60.

so, the over/under is 52.5. I will take the under - what do you want to wager?

 

[smackdaddies]

Randall Cobb in line to be Green Bay Packers No. 3 WR

By Gregg Rosenthal

Around The League editor

Training camp is finally almost here. They allow tackling there and everything. Around the League will count down the top 30 position battles to watch throughout the preseason. We already tackled the Seahawks RBs.

No. 29. Packers No. 3 receiver: Donald Driver vs. Randall Cobb vs. James Jones

•We won't know who wins this battle until the regular season starts because they are all going to play. The Packers love to line up three or four wideouts at a time. Some rotation will be used, but Cobb needs to prove in August he's ready for more snaps.

• I've already documented my feelings about Cobb. Even though he will remain a return man, the second-year pro is ready to be a star now. His playing time has to come at the expense of someone.

• Donald Driver is going to make the team after getting a $1.2 million roster bonus along with his new contract. But it's hard to see any scenario where the coaches see him as more dynamic than Cobb and Jones. Driver could be penciled into a third down specialist but his snaps are likely to go down.

• James Jones continues to have problems with drops. It's hard to imagine Jones getting cut, but crazier things have happened. There were strong rumors that Jones was dangled around the league before the draft. A camp trade wouldn't be a shock.

• The Packers could afford to deal Jones because they have promising depth with Tori Gurley and Diondre Borel battling just to make the roster. Yep, the Packers are so loaded that the No. 6 receiver spot looks promising.

Projected winner: Randall Cobb should wind up having the biggest role this season after starters Jordy Nelson and Greg Jennings.

and after JFin.....Plus he will be doing all the returns.....he may get more than Jones/Driver....but I still don't see more than 45 rcpt

I see closer to 60.

so, the over/under is 52.5. I will take the under - what do you want to wager?

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Among centers, Jeff Saturday ranks as the very best in pass-blocking efficiency. While it all came in Indianapolis, Saturday allowed just 27 pressures over 1,873 chances over the last three years.Wells came in 6th for the same time. I think Jeff still has a year in him

I don't doubt that he was good at pass blocking, but moving forward is my concern.How did he rank in run efficiency? I'm assuming much worse, but just curious.

Probably no worse than the rest of our line.Not exactly road graders in the run game.Not as long as we keep running this zone blocking crap.

GB OL is a lot like Buffalo OL. Good pass blocking group...below average run blocking.Oh well, do what you're good at...pass.

 

[Faust]

Can Aaron Rodgers throw for 6,000 yards this season?

By Marc Sessler

Writer

Three NFL passers shattered the 5,000-yard mark in 2011.

Green Bay Packers starter Aaron Rodgers (4,643) did not, but last year's MVP sat out the season finale. In that game, Matt Flynn threw for 480 yards and six touchdowns against a frazzled Detroit Lions secondary. You do the math.

Vic Ketchman of the Packers' official site believes Rodgers will fly past 5,000 on his way to 6,000 yards in 2012.

"I not only think it's attainable," Ketchman wrote, per ProFootballTalk.com. "I think it's predictable. ... If the Packers play in more shootout type games, as the Lions game was, I think Rodgers would be a strong candidate to crack the 6,000-yard mark. He clearly can play that kind of game."

Seven of the top 10 single-season passing yardage leaders have come over the past five years. With today's young quarterbacks operating pass-heavy offenses -- in Rodgers' case, with almost no running game -- 6,000 yards has become a reality. Don't be surprised to see it happen this season.

 

[Faust]

Marshall Newhouse of Packers to start at left tackle?

By Brian McIntyre

Around the League writer

With the Green Bay Packers releasing the 36-year-old Chad Clifton this offseason, 2010 fifth-round pick Marshall Newhouse is expected to be first in line to replace him at left tackle, Pete Dougherty of the Green Bay Press-Gazette writes.

Newhouse's ascension to left tackle might come as a bit of a surprise as the Packers aggressively prepared for the post-Clifton and Mark Tauscher era by using first-round draft picks on offensive tackles in 2010 and 2011. First came Bryan Bulaga, who has progressed nicely over his two seasons, but the Packers appear inclined to keep him at right tackle. 2011 draft pick Derek Sherrod could be the best long-term option at left tackle, but he's raw and is coming off a broken leg.

Newhouse, meanwhile, is no stranger to the position, having started there for three seasons at Texas Christian University. Newhouse started 10 games protecting Aaron Rodgers' blindside for an injured Clifton in 2011. In addition to three starts for an injured Bulaga at right tackle, Newhouse logged 85.77 percent of the Packers' offensive snaps last season, the third-highest total behind departed center Scott Wells and guard Josh Sitton.

Newhouse did not play a down as a rookie. And denied an offseason by the lockout, Newhouse predictably struggled in his first extensive NFL action. According to Football Outsiders Almanac 2012, Newhouse had nine blown blocks leading to sacks, intentional grounding or holding penalties. Newhouse was in good company, however, as Denver Broncos Pro Bowl player Ryan Clady had the same total.

With an actual NFL offseason, Packers line coach James Campen expects Newhouse to be much better in 2012.

"He did a lot of good things, he did some things he's worked on already this offseason," said Campen. "I expect him to grow and be better than he was last year, no question."

 

[sho nuff]

I don't think its a surprise that he is the guy right now.

Sherrod is recovery from the injury...had no offseason his rookie year, and now because of the injury won't have a full offseason of work either.

He is behind the 8 ball there.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

Newhouse isn't as bad as Allen Barbre was at least. Probably.

 

[Samuel L Bronkowitz]

Packers release S Charlie Peprah

Green Bay -- In a surprising move -- one day before training camp begins -- the Packers have released veteran safety Charlie Peprah.

While Peprah did undergo arthroscopic knee surgery earlier this off-season and isn't 100% yet, he says he did not do the run portion of his physical. The decision to release Peprah may be a sign that the Packers will go younger at safety with M.D. Jennings and Jerron McMillian or possibly use Charles Woodson in a rev

Peprah chose not to discuss the situation until the Packers did, but wished to thank the fans and the organization.

"I appreciate all the fans for their support," Peprah said. "Even the ones who weren't supportive, I appreciate them, too. That made me work even harder. Man, it was a dream come true to play for the Packers. Not many people can say they played for a historic franchise like this, and be a part of a Super Bowl team. It's hard to be happy about that right now but I know looking back at my career, five or six years later, I know it's something I'll be blessed to have been a part of."

Last season, Peprah finished with five interceptions and 14 pass break-ups, but he was never able to fill the void left by the injured Nick Collins. Though usually assignment-sure in Dom Capers' scheme, Peprah was often a step slow in coverage and lacked elite athleticism. The turbulent season culminated in Green Bay's playoff loss to the New York Giants. Peprah's missed tackle led to a 66-yard touchdown by Hakeem Nicks and he was also one culprit on the Giants' Hail Mary touchdown.

When asked earlier Wednesday if players like Jennings or McMillian would have an opportunity to start at camp, coach Mike McCarthy didn't get into specifics.

“Well, it really depends on how you define ‘starter,' McCarthy said. "I think it’s important, we talk about this a lot in here, we don’t have 11 starters. I don’t foresee us having 11 players on offense and 11 players on defense that play 1,000 plays next year."

Peprah didn't participate in OTAs and minicamp, but the news still was a surprise. Training camps across the league are beginning this week. Peprah figured to get a fair shot at starting for a third straight season. Earlier this off-season, the seventh-year veteran even held Pro Bowl aspirations.

Now, he's looking for a new home. Peprah plans to stick around town for a little while as he prepares for his next move. Always one of the classiest guys in the locker room, Peprah remained optimistic.

"It is a business," Peprah said. "I understand that. I will land on my feet. You haven't seen the last of me. Who knows? You never know. It has happened once before. Bygones are bygones. There are no hard feelings. You never know what the future holds.

"We'll see what happens."

 

[sho nuff]

Not a huge surprise. The timing is the surprise to me. Thought it may be later in camp.

He was at least some ok depth.

They must feel good enough about McMillan or Jennings (or know they are moving Woodson).

 

[pacman_fl]

Anyone catch the McCarthy press conference this morning (live, twitter "live blog" or read the transcript)? He sounded VERY focused and I think camp may be more physical and he will be more demanding this year.

 

[meatwad1]

By the end of the season, mark my words....Cobb will be wr #1 for GB. Jennings will be let go and Cobb will be taking over. This guy is Steve Smith 2.0. Everyone is talking on how he is going to blow up, but assuming that talent is kept in back of perceived pecking order. That does not happen in pro sports. This is guy who simply knows how to get open and make people miss.