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Best Player Available became Best Defensive Player Available this year for TT
All D all the time. Traded up twice for d, 5-0 defensive players
All D all the time. Traded up twice for d, 5-0 defensive players
Probably an indication that Grant will be back. I think they are also happy with Starks, Greene and Saine.Absolutely no reason to not have a top 10-15 defense this year. However, a RB that can move the ball would be nice. Hell, a couple run plays to move the clock would be nice as well.
Probably an indication that Grant will be back. I think they are also happy with Starks, Greene and Saine.Absolutely no reason to not have a top 10-15 defense this year. However, a RB that can move the ball would be nice. Hell, a couple run plays to move the clock would be nice as well.
Gotta be a doppleganger...no way the real Ted would trade up 3 times in one draft...sign a couple of free agents...and make a joke.TT on trading picks: "It's horrible. I'm not my father's son anymore. It's pathetic."A little humor from Ted is nice to see
Good thing the Packers picked up Jerel Worthy(who's a lot better IMO) to help with the suspensions of Mike Neal and Hargrove.Hargrove gets 8 game suspension. I imagine he'll try to appeal down to 4 or 6, maybe?
Seems like that would be a waste of time, given what happened with Payton's appeal.Hargrove gets 8 game suspension. I imagine he'll try to appeal down to 4 or 6, maybe?
The should just dump Neal and Hargrove.Good thing the Packers picked up Jerel Worthy(who's a lot better IMO) to help with the suspensions of Mike Neal and Hargrove.Hargrove gets 8 game suspension. I imagine he'll try to appeal down to 4 or 6, maybe?
I'm not sure they can afford to do that. Pickett isn't the player he used to be(turns 33 in october), Worthy/Daniels are rookies, CJ Wilson/Wynn are the only other DEs of note.Unless you think Wilson/Wynn can work well in a rotation.The should just dump Neal and Hargrove.Good thing the Packers picked up Jerel Worthy(who's a lot better IMO) to help with the suspensions of Mike Neal and Hargrove.Hargrove gets 8 game suspension. I imagine he'll try to appeal down to 4 or 6, maybe?
For now, the goal is short-sighted for Dubuque wide receiver Michael Zweifel -- make the Packers' 90-man offseason roster.
"I'm just excited to get a chance to play and show what I can do," Zweifel told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel after starring at the Division III school near the Iowa-Illinois-Wisconsin border, where he played for his father. "I'm looking forward to the opportunity to be there. I know the speed of the game will be faster. But I'm just really excited."
Zweifel attended the Iowa State pro day and ran the 40 in a decent 4.56 seconds. What stood out to the Packers was his quickness running routes. His vertical jump was 35 inches and his time in the three-cone drill was 6.52 seconds -- which shows how easily he moves into and out of cuts and changes directions, clear assets in the West Coast offense the Packers operate. The average time in the three-cone for receivers who were invited to the combine was 6.94, the Journal-Sentinel pointed out.
He transferred from UW-River Falls after catching 176 passes in his first two seasons. He sat out as a junior, as a medical redshirt, recovering from a thigh injury.
Ryan Broyles of Oklahoma caught 349 passes in his career, but Zweigel's 140 catches in 2011 gave him 463 career receptions, shattering the all-time NCAA record (436) held by Scott Pingel of Westminster (Mo.). His 5,979 receiving yards rank second behind Pingel.
Breaking in with the Packers is a long shot. But Green Bay has coveted depth at the position and isn't afraid to keep overlooked talent (Chastin West in 2011) that proves it will contribute.
If Zweifel catches everything in sight, he could go to training camp with the team in Green Bay.
I was in the car yesterday listening to the Scott Van Pelt Show on ESPN Radio. Both he and Ryen Russillo ranked the top-5 teams going into this NFL season. They both picked the Packers #1.For a team that went 15-1 last season, the Packers sure aren't getting any notice from the national media.
What makes an ideal starting center in the NFL?
We would put strength, agility, intelligence, and durability on the top of our list of attributes. But we have never played quarterback in the NFL and don't really know. Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers looks for different qualities.
“There’s two main components that a center needs to have, and it’s not quickness or agility or snapping or anything," Rodgers told TSN via SportsRadioInterviews.com. "It’s two things: One, he has to have a good height, and I’m talking about where his butt rests. It can’t be too low because I don’t wanna get deep in that stance and it can’t be too high so I feel like I’m standing up. It’s gotta be just right. (Jeff Saturday) has got that.”
And how do you know if a center has the right butt height?
“It’s a feel. My center in college was about my height and he’s real low in his stance. So it made me have to kinda duck down a little bit. It’s hard to get out of center. Scott Wells — my previous center — (and) Jeff Saturday: great height. Great butt height.”
Unfortunately for Rodgers, Packers backup Evan Dietrich-Smith does not stand out in the second quality necessary for a great center.
“And the second is most important, and that’s sweating. How much do they sweat? The worst thing that you can have is third, fourth quarter on a October day where it’s 65, 70 degrees and he’s sweating through his pants. Because that is not a situation you wanna be in."
The only option in that scenario: A center must change his pants.
“Oh yeah," Rodgers said. "Our backup center — great guy — Evan Dietrich-Smith, he has major sweat issues. And when you get that ball snapped up and there’s a lot of sweat that just splashes all over you and on your hands and the ball — it’s not a good situation. So he actually has changed at halftime before. So those are the two things you look for: butt height and sweating. Jeff’s doing really well in both categories. … Low sweat ratio and solid butt height.”
We'd like to thank Rodgers for educating the NFL populace on this important issue. The NFL Scouting Combine really needs to add butt height and sweat factor to their annual measurements.
Taint splashing. Nice.Aaron Rodgers on ideal center: Butt height and sweat
By Gregg Rosenthal NFL.com
Around The League editor
What makes an ideal starting center in the NFL?
We would put strength, agility, intelligence, and durability on the top of our list of attributes. But we have never played quarterback in the NFL and don't really know. Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers looks for different qualities.
“There’s two main components that a center needs to have, and it’s not quickness or agility or snapping or anything," Rodgers told TSN via SportsRadioInterviews.com. "It’s two things: One, he has to have a good height, and I’m talking about where his butt rests. It can’t be too low because I don’t wanna get deep in that stance and it can’t be too high so I feel like I’m standing up. It’s gotta be just right. (Jeff Saturday) has got that.”
And how do you know if a center has the right butt height?
“It’s a feel. My center in college was about my height and he’s real low in his stance. So it made me have to kinda duck down a little bit. It’s hard to get out of center. Scott Wells — my previous center — (and) Jeff Saturday: great height. Great butt height.”
Unfortunately for Rodgers, Packers backup Evan Dietrich-Smith does not stand out in the second quality necessary for a great center.
“And the second is most important, and that’s sweating. How much do they sweat? The worst thing that you can have is third, fourth quarter on a October day where it’s 65, 70 degrees and he’s sweating through his pants. Because that is not a situation you wanna be in."
The only option in that scenario: A center must change his pants.
“Oh yeah," Rodgers said. "Our backup center — great guy — Evan Dietrich-Smith, he has major sweat issues. And when you get that ball snapped up and there’s a lot of sweat that just splashes all over you and on your hands and the ball — it’s not a good situation. So he actually has changed at halftime before. So those are the two things you look for: butt height and sweating. Jeff’s doing really well in both categories. … Low sweat ratio and solid butt height.”
We'd like to thank Rodgers for educating the NFL populace on this important issue. The NFL Scouting Combine really needs to add butt height and sweat factor to their annual measurements.
Taint splashing. Nice.Aaron Rodgers on ideal center: Butt height and sweat
By Gregg Rosenthal NFL.com
Around The League editor
What makes an ideal starting center in the NFL?
We would put strength, agility, intelligence, and durability on the top of our list of attributes. But we have never played quarterback in the NFL and don't really know. Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers looks for different qualities.
“There’s two main components that a center needs to have, and it’s not quickness or agility or snapping or anything," Rodgers told TSN via SportsRadioInterviews.com. "It’s two things: One, he has to have a good height, and I’m talking about where his butt rests. It can’t be too low because I don’t wanna get deep in that stance and it can’t be too high so I feel like I’m standing up. It’s gotta be just right. (Jeff Saturday) has got that.”
And how do you know if a center has the right butt height?
“It’s a feel. My center in college was about my height and he’s real low in his stance. So it made me have to kinda duck down a little bit. It’s hard to get out of center. Scott Wells — my previous center — (and) Jeff Saturday: great height. Great butt height.”
Unfortunately for Rodgers, Packers backup Evan Dietrich-Smith does not stand out in the second quality necessary for a great center.
“And the second is most important, and that’s sweating. How much do they sweat? The worst thing that you can have is third, fourth quarter on a October day where it’s 65, 70 degrees and he’s sweating through his pants. Because that is not a situation you wanna be in."
The only option in that scenario: A center must change his pants.
“Oh yeah," Rodgers said. "Our backup center — great guy — Evan Dietrich-Smith, he has major sweat issues. And when you get that ball snapped up and there’s a lot of sweat that just splashes all over you and on your hands and the ball — it’s not a good situation. So he actually has changed at halftime before. So those are the two things you look for: butt height and sweating. Jeff’s doing really well in both categories. … Low sweat ratio and solid butt height.”
We'd like to thank Rodgers for educating the NFL populace on this important issue. The NFL Scouting Combine really needs to add butt height and sweat factor to their annual measurements.
Yep.For a team that went 15-1 last season, the Packers sure aren't getting any notice from the national media. You hear all about the Pats and Eagles, but next to nothing about Green Bay adding four potential contributors on defense. Just how we like it.![]()
Saine looks like a serviceable backup....do you think he is explosive enough to be a starter? I didn't see any evidence of that last year....but am open to hearing from others....I'm definitely going to make a push to land Green and Saine on my dynasty rosters. I think one of those guys breaks into the lineup with regularity. Potentially even unseating the vaunted James Starks of Super Bowl fame.
Not just for the Packers...but I give a lot of rookies a pass for last year.No real offseason of work...shortened everything as far as getting up to speed with their new teams.As for Saine...I don't think GB needs explosion out of a starting RB.That said...not sure any back in GB will be worth owning.Saine looks like a serviceable backup....do you think he is explosive enough to be a starter? I didn't see any evidence of that last year....but am open to hearing from others....I'm definitely going to make a push to land Green and Saine on my dynasty rosters. I think one of those guys breaks into the lineup with regularity. Potentially even unseating the vaunted James Starks of Super Bowl fame.
There are lots of starters out there that aren't explosive. I don't know that Green Bay even has a back I'd call explosive.Saine looks like a serviceable backup....do you think he is explosive enough to be a starter? I didn't see any evidence of that last year....but am open to hearing from others....I'm definitely going to make a push to land Green and Saine on my dynasty rosters. I think one of those guys breaks into the lineup with regularity. Potentially even unseating the vaunted James Starks of Super Bowl fame.
This is a huge aspect of FF that many owners will be ignoring. I expect many second year players to break out from simply finally having preparation with coaches prior to the season...thinking Shane Vereen for sure.Saine is the most explosive RB of the 3 by a pure measurables standpoint. However, he didn't play to that potential at Ohio State and suffered from many injuries.Not just for the Packers...but I give a lot of rookies a pass for last year.Saine looks like a serviceable backup....do you think he is explosive enough to be a starter? I didn't see any evidence of that last year....but am open to hearing from others....I'm definitely going to make a push to land Green and Saine on my dynasty rosters. I think one of those guys breaks into the lineup with regularity. Potentially even unseating the vaunted James Starks of Super Bowl fame.
No real offseason of work...shortened everything as far as getting up to speed with their new teams.
As for Saine...I don't think GB needs explosion out of a starting RB.
That said...not sure any back in GB will be worth owning.
Interesting. Didn't realize that.This is a huge aspect of FF that many owners will be ignoring. I expect many second year players to break out from simply finally having preparation with coaches prior to the season...thinking Shane Vereen for sure.Saine is the most explosive RB of the 3 by a pure measurables standpoint. However, he didn't play to that potential at Ohio State and suffered from many injuries.Not just for the Packers...but I give a lot of rookies a pass for last year.Saine looks like a serviceable backup....do you think he is explosive enough to be a starter? I didn't see any evidence of that last year....but am open to hearing from others....I'm definitely going to make a push to land Green and Saine on my dynasty rosters. I think one of those guys breaks into the lineup with regularity. Potentially even unseating the vaunted James Starks of Super Bowl fame.
No real offseason of work...shortened everything as far as getting up to speed with their new teams.
As for Saine...I don't think GB needs explosion out of a starting RB.
That said...not sure any back in GB will be worth owning.
They could sure use him. Heck they let Ray Lewis back after he killed a guy.
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/155554255.html#!page=1&pageSize=10&sort=newestfirstNo details yet.Guessing a 2 year deal and he hangs em up after that...or never makes it to year two.Will be interesting to see if Gurley makes it up and they keep 6.Or move (trade or cut) Jones.Sounds like Driver agreed to a restructured deal. Going to review and probably sign in the morning. No link yet, just tweets from Jason Wilde
At this point though...what does Jones offer?I wanted him back last year...thought he would take a step forward as the #3 guy.But he was nearly invisible.Gurley appears to have the skills to do what Jones can...and I could see them opting for him over Jones. Its a gamble obviously since he has not done it in a regular season setting and only in practice and preseason...but the talent appears to be there.Borel looks more like the Driver player and is probably still safe on the practice squad and they already have Cobb there too.Love Driver but keeping him over Jones doesn't sound like the smartest move. This would surprise me.
In two years Jones/Nelson/Cobb/Gurley could be the WRs, instead of forking out a ton to resign Jennings.At this point though...what does Jones offer?I wanted him back last year...thought he would take a step forward as the #3 guy.But he was nearly invisible.Gurley appears to have the skills to do what Jones can...and I could see them opting for him over Jones. Its a gamble obviously since he has not done it in a regular season setting and only in practice and preseason...but the talent appears to be there.Borel looks more like the Driver player and is probably still safe on the practice squad and they already have Cobb there too.Love Driver but keeping him over Jones doesn't sound like the smartest move. This would surprise me.
They aren't gonna let Jennings go, brotha. One of the main profits of the draft/develop/manage-cap scheme is that it affords you to keep your core players. Greg is an elite talent, core player, team-leader, will be effective in his early 30s.In two years Jones/Nelson/Cobb/Gurley could be the WRs, instead of forking out a ton to resign Jennings.
Everyone would like to keep all of their good players, it makes sense. However, the Packers were in the bottom 3rd of the NFL in cap space going into Free Agency. BJ Raji/Clay Mathews need contract extensions. Sam Shields is an UFA after next year. Finley an UFA in two years. Is it worth it to resign Jennings when they have Nelson/Jones/Cobb/Gurley or shore up the rest of the team?ETA: Appears you will have Driver for two more years as well in a reduced role.They aren't gonna let Jennings go, brotha. One of the main profits of the draft/develop/manage-cap scheme is that it affords you to keep your core players. Greg is an elite talent, core player, team-leader, will be effective in his early 30s.In two years Jones/Nelson/Cobb/Gurley could be the WRs, instead of forking out a ton to resign Jennings.
At this point though...what does Jones offer?I wanted him back last year...thought he would take a step forward as the #3 guy.But he was nearly invisible.Gurley appears to have the skills to do what Jones can...and I could see them opting for him over Jones. Its a gamble obviously since he has not done it in a regular season setting and only in practice and preseason...but the talent appears to be there.Borel looks more like the Driver player and is probably still safe on the practice squad and they already have Cobb there too.Love Driver but keeping him over Jones doesn't sound like the smartest move. This would surprise me.
Yeah...but Woodson's # will be gone soon.Driver's contract reduced.Id guess Pickett is not long for this team any longer either.And the possibility of Hawk being gone in the next year or so if DJ Smith develops.IMO, Rodgers, Matthews, and Jennings get extensions soon.Raji...he needs to show 2010 was his norm and improve. He was overworked last year for sure, but did not look great at all.Id much rather keep Jennings than Finley and Jones combined.Everyone would like to keep all of their good players, it makes sense. However, the Packers were in the bottom 3rd of the NFL in cap space going into Free Agency. BJ Raji/Clay Mathews need contract extensions. Sam Shields is an UFA after next year. Finley an UFA in two years. Is it worth it to resign Jennings when they have Nelson/Jones/Cobb/Gurley or shore up the rest of the team?ETA: Appears you will have Driver for two more years as well in a reduced role.They aren't gonna let Jennings go, brotha. One of the main profits of the draft/develop/manage-cap scheme is that it affords you to keep your core players. Greg is an elite talent, core player, team-leader, will be effective in his early 30s.In two years Jones/Nelson/Cobb/Gurley could be the WRs, instead of forking out a ton to resign Jennings.
I think Gurley would make a very good #5 guy with Driver and Cobb as the 3s behind Jennings and Nelson.At this point though...what does Jones offer?I wanted him back last year...thought he would take a step forward as the #3 guy.But he was nearly invisible.Gurley appears to have the skills to do what Jones can...and I could see them opting for him over Jones. Its a gamble obviously since he has not done it in a regular season setting and only in practice and preseason...but the talent appears to be there.Borel looks more like the Driver player and is probably still safe on the practice squad and they already have Cobb there too.Love Driver but keeping him over Jones doesn't sound like the smartest move. This would surprise me.I'm not so sure about Gurley being the guy that steps up, but Jones isn't anything special. His inconsistency has really hampered him and I'm not so sure that will change.
It is probably because it just isn't true. As an OSU fan, I can say with complete certainty that there are a number of adjectives you can use to describe Saine, but "explosive" is not one of them. I'm not sure what Benson is using to define explosive but if it is the combine numbers, Green has nearly identical numbers to Saine.He is correct in saying that Saine never played to his measureables at OSU. For some reason (and it's probably that he just wasn't a great RB), he always seemed like he was the 3rd best RB on the team.Interesting. Didn't realize that.This is a huge aspect of FF that many owners will be ignoring. I expect many second year players to break out from simply finally having preparation with coaches prior to the season...thinking Shane Vereen for sure.Saine is the most explosive RB of the 3 by a pure measurables standpoint. However, he didn't play to that potential at Ohio State and suffered from many injuries.Not just for the Packers...but I give a lot of rookies a pass for last year.Saine looks like a serviceable backup....do you think he is explosive enough to be a starter? I didn't see any evidence of that last year....but am open to hearing from others....I'm definitely going to make a push to land Green and Saine on my dynasty rosters. I think one of those guys breaks into the lineup with regularity. Potentially even unseating the vaunted James Starks of Super Bowl fame.
No real offseason of work...shortened everything as far as getting up to speed with their new teams.
As for Saine...I don't think GB needs explosion out of a starting RB.
That said...not sure any back in GB will be worth owning.
In shorts, Saine is a faster football player. That doesn't make him explosive on the football field. I'm not sure how you could argue that. Saine ran a 4.40(some talk of Saine breaking into the 4.3's), Green ran a 4.45. All other drills they were very similar. In pads, Green looks more explosive(pre injury) and i'd expect Green to be the better NFL player. Hence why he was drafted in the 3rd round and Saine wasn't drafted at all.It is probably because it just isn't true. As an OSU fan, I can say with complete certainty that there are a number of adjectives you can use to describe Saine, but "explosive" is not one of them. I'm not sure what Benson is using to define explosive but if it is the combine numbers, Green has nearly identical numbers to Saine.He is correct in saying that Saine never played to his measureables at OSU. For some reason (and it's probably that he just wasn't a great RB), he always seemed like he was the 3rd best RB on the team.Interesting. Didn't realize that.This is a huge aspect of FF that many owners will be ignoring. I expect many second year players to break out from simply finally having preparation with coaches prior to the season...thinking Shane Vereen for sure.Saine is the most explosive RB of the 3 by a pure measurables standpoint. However, he didn't play to that potential at Ohio State and suffered from many injuries.Not just for the Packers...but I give a lot of rookies a pass for last year.Saine looks like a serviceable backup....do you think he is explosive enough to be a starter? I didn't see any evidence of that last year....but am open to hearing from others....I'm definitely going to make a push to land Green and Saine on my dynasty rosters. I think one of those guys breaks into the lineup with regularity. Potentially even unseating the vaunted James Starks of Super Bowl fame.
No real offseason of work...shortened everything as far as getting up to speed with their new teams.
As for Saine...I don't think GB needs explosion out of a starting RB.
That said...not sure any back in GB will be worth owning.
Around the League will examine one key figure under pressure on each team heading into the 2012 season. Next up: The Green Bay Packers
Under Pressure: Dom Capers
Though he was far from his sharpest in the Packers' postseason loss, no one will blame Aaron Rodgers for his team's inability to get back to the Super Bowl in 2011.
In truth, it was Rodgers' brilliance that covered up many warts in Green Bay, particularly on the defensive side of the ball. The Packers were asking Rodgers to be perfect every week. When he wasn't against the New York Giants, Titletown was toast.
The Packers obviously knew this, which explained why they used their first six draft picks to shore up Dom Capers' defense. The team selected USC defensive end Nick Perry in the first round, then traded up twice in the second round to grab Michigan State defensive end Jerel Worthy and Vanderbilt defensive back Casey Heyward. Capers will lean on each of the players to make an instant impact.
The Packers made the difficult decision to cut ties with safety Nick Collins after determining the three-time Pro Bowler faced too great a risk following neck surgery. It's a loss, no doubt, but Capers now has an entire offseason to find a way to replace him.
Perry will be counted on to provide pressure on the opposite end of Clay Matthews, with the hope that Matthews can return to being the sack-compiler he was in 2010. Matthews has moved from left to right outside linebacker to make way for Perry, and Capers could move Matthews around more then ever.
"I hope so. That's the plan," Matthews said last week. "It's all about mismatches and preferable lineups. Whenever we can take advantage of that, playing on the right side, left side, middle, wherever you want me to play, we're all about that, so I hope that's the case."
The Packers are a smart organization that realized where they fell short last year and acted aggressively to fix it. They turned draft day into Christmas for Capers, re-stocking the roster with young talent to assimilate with a proven core.
Now Capers has to find a way to make it work. The Packers re-tooled the defense with new personnel in 2012. If that doesn't take, a new coordinator might be next.
Hope it's true, obviously the key to the offense. Pay the man.Apparently the team and Rodgers are close to agreeing on an extension.Twitter saying 5 years $96 million.How funny if they get that done before Brees and the Saints get a deal done.
Yep it's well deserved. Backup QB should be a priority though, especially towards the end of that deal. I know yall would love for him to play into his late 30's like Brady/Manning/Favre...but that doesn't always happen.'Balco said:Hope it's true, obviously the key to the offense. Pay the man.'sho nuff said:Apparently the team and Rodgers are close to agreeing on an extension.Twitter saying 5 years $96 million.How funny if they get that done before Brees and the Saints get a deal done.
No kidding especially after watching the Colts last year (and get him some late game playing time).Yep it's well deserved. Backup QB should be a priority though, especially towards the end of that deal. I know yall would love for him to play into his late 30's like Brady/Manning/Favre...but that doesn't always happen.'Balco said:Hope it's true, obviously the key to the offense. Pay the man.'sho nuff said:Apparently the team and Rodgers are close to agreeing on an extension.Twitter saying 5 years $96 million.How funny if they get that done before Brees and the Saints get a deal done.
Don't think there is anyway he beats out Borel or Gurley (and that is if there is a move made getting rid of someone already ahead of all of them).I think Moss is a PS guy this year and will be safe there.'DesmondBishop said:Anyone hear anything on Dale Moss from OTA's? That is the wr I am thinking will be the #5 guy, just based on numbers, I do not think anyone on the squad posted numbers close to his. I realize he is raw as a wr, but at 6'4 and 4.38 speed and a 40+ vertical and I think he had crazy shuttle numbers also, I think that is a guy you have to give a shot.