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2012 Packers Offseason (1 Viewer)

Best Player Available became Best Defensive Player Available this year for TT

All D all the time. Traded up twice for d, 5-0 defensive players

 
Absolutely no reason to not have a top 10-15 defense this year. However, a RB that can move the ball would be nice. Hell, a couple run plays to move the clock would be nice as well.

 
Absolutely no reason to not have a top 10-15 defense this year. However, a RB that can move the ball would be nice. Hell, a couple run plays to move the clock would be nice as well.
Probably an indication that Grant will be back. I think they are also happy with Starks, Greene and Saine.
 
7th round pick B.J. Coleman's agent is Bus Cook. He worked out with Favre several times a week in January and February

 
Via Twitter Packer's rookie free agent signings:

West Virginia Offensive Lineman Don Barclay

Virginia Tech Guard James Brooks

South Dakota State WR Dale Moss

Vanderbilt Safety Sean Richardson

Tulane DE Dezman Moses

 
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Hargrove gets 8 game suspension. I imagine he'll try to appeal down to 4 or 6, maybe?
Good thing the Packers picked up Jerel Worthy(who's a lot better IMO) to help with the suspensions of Mike Neal and Hargrove.
The should just dump Neal and Hargrove.
I'm not sure they can afford to do that. Pickett isn't the player he used to be(turns 33 in october), Worthy/Daniels are rookies, CJ Wilson/Wynn are the only other DEs of note.Unless you think Wilson/Wynn can work well in a rotation.
 
Packers give NCAA receptions leader tryout

By Jeff Reynolds | NFLDraftScout.com

For now, the goal is short-sighted for Dubuque wide receiver Michael Zweifel -- make the Packers' 90-man offseason roster.

"I'm just excited to get a chance to play and show what I can do," Zweifel told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel after starring at the Division III school near the Iowa-Illinois-Wisconsin border, where he played for his father. "I'm looking forward to the opportunity to be there. I know the speed of the game will be faster. But I'm just really excited."

Zweifel attended the Iowa State pro day and ran the 40 in a decent 4.56 seconds. What stood out to the Packers was his quickness running routes. His vertical jump was 35 inches and his time in the three-cone drill was 6.52 seconds -- which shows how easily he moves into and out of cuts and changes directions, clear assets in the West Coast offense the Packers operate. The average time in the three-cone for receivers who were invited to the combine was 6.94, the Journal-Sentinel pointed out.

He transferred from UW-River Falls after catching 176 passes in his first two seasons. He sat out as a junior, as a medical redshirt, recovering from a thigh injury.

Ryan Broyles of Oklahoma caught 349 passes in his career, but Zweigel's 140 catches in 2011 gave him 463 career receptions, shattering the all-time NCAA record (436) held by Scott Pingel of Westminster (Mo.). His 5,979 receiving yards rank second behind Pingel.

Breaking in with the Packers is a long shot. But Green Bay has coveted depth at the position and isn't afraid to keep overlooked talent (Chastin West in 2011) that proves it will contribute.

If Zweifel catches everything in sight, he could go to training camp with the team in Green Bay.
 
For a team that went 15-1 last season, the Packers sure aren't getting any notice from the national media. You hear all about the Pats and Eagles, but next to nothing about Green Bay adding four potential contributors on defense. Just how we like it. :stirspot:

 
For a team that went 15-1 last season, the Packers sure aren't getting any notice from the national media.
I was in the car yesterday listening to the Scott Van Pelt Show on ESPN Radio. Both he and Ryen Russillo ranked the top-5 teams going into this NFL season. They both picked the Packers #1.
 
Aaron Rodgers on ideal center: Butt height and sweat

By Gregg Rosenthal NFL.com

Around The League editor

What makes an ideal starting center in the NFL?

We would put strength, agility, intelligence, and durability on the top of our list of attributes. But we have never played quarterback in the NFL and don't really know. Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers looks for different qualities.

“There’s two main components that a center needs to have, and it’s not quickness or agility or snapping or anything," Rodgers told TSN via SportsRadioInterviews.com. "It’s two things: One, he has to have a good height, and I’m talking about where his butt rests. It can’t be too low because I don’t wanna get deep in that stance and it can’t be too high so I feel like I’m standing up. It’s gotta be just right. (Jeff Saturday) has got that.”

And how do you know if a center has the right butt height?

“It’s a feel. My center in college was about my height and he’s real low in his stance. So it made me have to kinda duck down a little bit. It’s hard to get out of center. Scott Wells — my previous center — (and) Jeff Saturday: great height. Great butt height.”

Unfortunately for Rodgers, Packers backup Evan Dietrich-Smith does not stand out in the second quality necessary for a great center.

“And the second is most important, and that’s sweating. How much do they sweat? The worst thing that you can have is third, fourth quarter on a October day where it’s 65, 70 degrees and he’s sweating through his pants. Because that is not a situation you wanna be in."

The only option in that scenario: A center must change his pants.

“Oh yeah," Rodgers said. "Our backup center — great guy — Evan Dietrich-Smith, he has major sweat issues. And when you get that ball snapped up and there’s a lot of sweat that just splashes all over you and on your hands and the ball — it’s not a good situation. So he actually has changed at halftime before. So those are the two things you look for: butt height and sweating. Jeff’s doing really well in both categories. … Low sweat ratio and solid butt height.”

We'd like to thank Rodgers for educating the NFL populace on this important issue. The NFL Scouting Combine really needs to add butt height and sweat factor to their annual measurements.
 
Aaron Rodgers on ideal center: Butt height and sweat

By Gregg Rosenthal NFL.com

Around The League editor

What makes an ideal starting center in the NFL?

We would put strength, agility, intelligence, and durability on the top of our list of attributes. But we have never played quarterback in the NFL and don't really know. Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers looks for different qualities.

“There’s two main components that a center needs to have, and it’s not quickness or agility or snapping or anything," Rodgers told TSN via SportsRadioInterviews.com. "It’s two things: One, he has to have a good height, and I’m talking about where his butt rests. It can’t be too low because I don’t wanna get deep in that stance and it can’t be too high so I feel like I’m standing up. It’s gotta be just right. (Jeff Saturday) has got that.”

And how do you know if a center has the right butt height?

“It’s a feel. My center in college was about my height and he’s real low in his stance. So it made me have to kinda duck down a little bit. It’s hard to get out of center. Scott Wells — my previous center — (and) Jeff Saturday: great height. Great butt height.”

Unfortunately for Rodgers, Packers backup Evan Dietrich-Smith does not stand out in the second quality necessary for a great center.

“And the second is most important, and that’s sweating. How much do they sweat? The worst thing that you can have is third, fourth quarter on a October day where it’s 65, 70 degrees and he’s sweating through his pants. Because that is not a situation you wanna be in."

The only option in that scenario: A center must change his pants.

“Oh yeah," Rodgers said. "Our backup center — great guy — Evan Dietrich-Smith, he has major sweat issues. And when you get that ball snapped up and there’s a lot of sweat that just splashes all over you and on your hands and the ball — it’s not a good situation. So he actually has changed at halftime before. So those are the two things you look for: butt height and sweating. Jeff’s doing really well in both categories. … Low sweat ratio and solid butt height.”

We'd like to thank Rodgers for educating the NFL populace on this important issue. The NFL Scouting Combine really needs to add butt height and sweat factor to their annual measurements.
Taint splashing. Nice.
 
Aaron Rodgers on ideal center: Butt height and sweat

By Gregg Rosenthal NFL.com

Around The League editor

What makes an ideal starting center in the NFL?

We would put strength, agility, intelligence, and durability on the top of our list of attributes. But we have never played quarterback in the NFL and don't really know. Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers looks for different qualities.

“There’s two main components that a center needs to have, and it’s not quickness or agility or snapping or anything," Rodgers told TSN via SportsRadioInterviews.com. "It’s two things: One, he has to have a good height, and I’m talking about where his butt rests. It can’t be too low because I don’t wanna get deep in that stance and it can’t be too high so I feel like I’m standing up. It’s gotta be just right. (Jeff Saturday) has got that.”

And how do you know if a center has the right butt height?

“It’s a feel. My center in college was about my height and he’s real low in his stance. So it made me have to kinda duck down a little bit. It’s hard to get out of center. Scott Wells — my previous center — (and) Jeff Saturday: great height. Great butt height.”

Unfortunately for Rodgers, Packers backup Evan Dietrich-Smith does not stand out in the second quality necessary for a great center.

“And the second is most important, and that’s sweating. How much do they sweat? The worst thing that you can have is third, fourth quarter on a October day where it’s 65, 70 degrees and he’s sweating through his pants. Because that is not a situation you wanna be in."

The only option in that scenario: A center must change his pants.

“Oh yeah," Rodgers said. "Our backup center — great guy — Evan Dietrich-Smith, he has major sweat issues. And when you get that ball snapped up and there’s a lot of sweat that just splashes all over you and on your hands and the ball — it’s not a good situation. So he actually has changed at halftime before. So those are the two things you look for: butt height and sweating. Jeff’s doing really well in both categories. … Low sweat ratio and solid butt height.”

We'd like to thank Rodgers for educating the NFL populace on this important issue. The NFL Scouting Combine really needs to add butt height and sweat factor to their annual measurements.
Taint splashing. Nice.
:lmao:
 
I'm definitely going to make a push to land Green and Saine on my dynasty rosters. I think one of those guys breaks into the lineup with regularity. Potentially even unseating the vaunted James Starks of Super Bowl fame.

 
I'm definitely going to make a push to land Green and Saine on my dynasty rosters. I think one of those guys breaks into the lineup with regularity. Potentially even unseating the vaunted James Starks of Super Bowl fame.
Saine looks like a serviceable backup....do you think he is explosive enough to be a starter? I didn't see any evidence of that last year....but am open to hearing from others....
 
I'm definitely going to make a push to land Green and Saine on my dynasty rosters. I think one of those guys breaks into the lineup with regularity. Potentially even unseating the vaunted James Starks of Super Bowl fame.
Saine looks like a serviceable backup....do you think he is explosive enough to be a starter? I didn't see any evidence of that last year....but am open to hearing from others....
Not just for the Packers...but I give a lot of rookies a pass for last year.No real offseason of work...shortened everything as far as getting up to speed with their new teams.As for Saine...I don't think GB needs explosion out of a starting RB.That said...not sure any back in GB will be worth owning.
 
I'm definitely going to make a push to land Green and Saine on my dynasty rosters. I think one of those guys breaks into the lineup with regularity. Potentially even unseating the vaunted James Starks of Super Bowl fame.
Saine looks like a serviceable backup....do you think he is explosive enough to be a starter? I didn't see any evidence of that last year....but am open to hearing from others....
There are lots of starters out there that aren't explosive. I don't know that Green Bay even has a back I'd call explosive.
 
I'm definitely going to make a push to land Green and Saine on my dynasty rosters. I think one of those guys breaks into the lineup with regularity. Potentially even unseating the vaunted James Starks of Super Bowl fame.
Saine looks like a serviceable backup....do you think he is explosive enough to be a starter? I didn't see any evidence of that last year....but am open to hearing from others....
Not just for the Packers...but I give a lot of rookies a pass for last year.

No real offseason of work...shortened everything as far as getting up to speed with their new teams.

As for Saine...I don't think GB needs explosion out of a starting RB.

That said...not sure any back in GB will be worth owning.
This is a huge aspect of FF that many owners will be ignoring. I expect many second year players to break out from simply finally having preparation with coaches prior to the season...thinking Shane Vereen for sure.Saine is the most explosive RB of the 3 by a pure measurables standpoint. However, he didn't play to that potential at Ohio State and suffered from many injuries.

 
I'm definitely going to make a push to land Green and Saine on my dynasty rosters. I think one of those guys breaks into the lineup with regularity. Potentially even unseating the vaunted James Starks of Super Bowl fame.
Saine looks like a serviceable backup....do you think he is explosive enough to be a starter? I didn't see any evidence of that last year....but am open to hearing from others....
Not just for the Packers...but I give a lot of rookies a pass for last year.

No real offseason of work...shortened everything as far as getting up to speed with their new teams.

As for Saine...I don't think GB needs explosion out of a starting RB.

That said...not sure any back in GB will be worth owning.
This is a huge aspect of FF that many owners will be ignoring. I expect many second year players to break out from simply finally having preparation with coaches prior to the season...thinking Shane Vereen for sure.Saine is the most explosive RB of the 3 by a pure measurables standpoint. However, he didn't play to that potential at Ohio State and suffered from many injuries.
Interesting. Didn't realize that.
 
Love Driver but keeping him over Jones doesn't sound like the smartest move. This would surprise me.
At this point though...what does Jones offer?I wanted him back last year...thought he would take a step forward as the #3 guy.But he was nearly invisible.Gurley appears to have the skills to do what Jones can...and I could see them opting for him over Jones. Its a gamble obviously since he has not done it in a regular season setting and only in practice and preseason...but the talent appears to be there.Borel looks more like the Driver player and is probably still safe on the practice squad and they already have Cobb there too.
 
Love Driver but keeping him over Jones doesn't sound like the smartest move. This would surprise me.
At this point though...what does Jones offer?I wanted him back last year...thought he would take a step forward as the #3 guy.But he was nearly invisible.Gurley appears to have the skills to do what Jones can...and I could see them opting for him over Jones. Its a gamble obviously since he has not done it in a regular season setting and only in practice and preseason...but the talent appears to be there.Borel looks more like the Driver player and is probably still safe on the practice squad and they already have Cobb there too.
In two years Jones/Nelson/Cobb/Gurley could be the WRs, instead of forking out a ton to resign Jennings.
 
In two years Jones/Nelson/Cobb/Gurley could be the WRs, instead of forking out a ton to resign Jennings.
They aren't gonna let Jennings go, brotha. One of the main profits of the draft/develop/manage-cap scheme is that it affords you to keep your core players. Greg is an elite talent, core player, team-leader, will be effective in his early 30s.
 
In two years Jones/Nelson/Cobb/Gurley could be the WRs, instead of forking out a ton to resign Jennings.
They aren't gonna let Jennings go, brotha. One of the main profits of the draft/develop/manage-cap scheme is that it affords you to keep your core players. Greg is an elite talent, core player, team-leader, will be effective in his early 30s.
Everyone would like to keep all of their good players, it makes sense. However, the Packers were in the bottom 3rd of the NFL in cap space going into Free Agency. BJ Raji/Clay Mathews need contract extensions. Sam Shields is an UFA after next year. Finley an UFA in two years. Is it worth it to resign Jennings when they have Nelson/Jones/Cobb/Gurley or shore up the rest of the team?ETA: Appears you will have Driver for two more years as well in a reduced role.
 
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Love Driver but keeping him over Jones doesn't sound like the smartest move. This would surprise me.
At this point though...what does Jones offer?I wanted him back last year...thought he would take a step forward as the #3 guy.But he was nearly invisible.Gurley appears to have the skills to do what Jones can...and I could see them opting for him over Jones. Its a gamble obviously since he has not done it in a regular season setting and only in practice and preseason...but the talent appears to be there.Borel looks more like the Driver player and is probably still safe on the practice squad and they already have Cobb there too.
:goodposting: I'm not so sure about Gurley being the guy that steps up, but Jones isn't anything special. His inconsistency has really hampered him and I'm not so sure that will change.
 
In two years Jones/Nelson/Cobb/Gurley could be the WRs, instead of forking out a ton to resign Jennings.
They aren't gonna let Jennings go, brotha. One of the main profits of the draft/develop/manage-cap scheme is that it affords you to keep your core players. Greg is an elite talent, core player, team-leader, will be effective in his early 30s.
Everyone would like to keep all of their good players, it makes sense. However, the Packers were in the bottom 3rd of the NFL in cap space going into Free Agency. BJ Raji/Clay Mathews need contract extensions. Sam Shields is an UFA after next year. Finley an UFA in two years. Is it worth it to resign Jennings when they have Nelson/Jones/Cobb/Gurley or shore up the rest of the team?ETA: Appears you will have Driver for two more years as well in a reduced role.
Yeah...but Woodson's # will be gone soon.Driver's contract reduced.Id guess Pickett is not long for this team any longer either.And the possibility of Hawk being gone in the next year or so if DJ Smith develops.IMO, Rodgers, Matthews, and Jennings get extensions soon.Raji...he needs to show 2010 was his norm and improve. He was overworked last year for sure, but did not look great at all.Id much rather keep Jennings than Finley and Jones combined.
 
Love Driver but keeping him over Jones doesn't sound like the smartest move. This would surprise me.
At this point though...what does Jones offer?I wanted him back last year...thought he would take a step forward as the #3 guy.But he was nearly invisible.Gurley appears to have the skills to do what Jones can...and I could see them opting for him over Jones. Its a gamble obviously since he has not done it in a regular season setting and only in practice and preseason...but the talent appears to be there.Borel looks more like the Driver player and is probably still safe on the practice squad and they already have Cobb there too.
:goodposting: I'm not so sure about Gurley being the guy that steps up, but Jones isn't anything special. His inconsistency has really hampered him and I'm not so sure that will change.
I think Gurley would make a very good #5 guy with Driver and Cobb as the 3s behind Jennings and Nelson.
 
I'm definitely going to make a push to land Green and Saine on my dynasty rosters. I think one of those guys breaks into the lineup with regularity. Potentially even unseating the vaunted James Starks of Super Bowl fame.
Saine looks like a serviceable backup....do you think he is explosive enough to be a starter? I didn't see any evidence of that last year....but am open to hearing from others....
Not just for the Packers...but I give a lot of rookies a pass for last year.

No real offseason of work...shortened everything as far as getting up to speed with their new teams.

As for Saine...I don't think GB needs explosion out of a starting RB.

That said...not sure any back in GB will be worth owning.
This is a huge aspect of FF that many owners will be ignoring. I expect many second year players to break out from simply finally having preparation with coaches prior to the season...thinking Shane Vereen for sure.Saine is the most explosive RB of the 3 by a pure measurables standpoint. However, he didn't play to that potential at Ohio State and suffered from many injuries.
Interesting. Didn't realize that.
It is probably because it just isn't true. As an OSU fan, I can say with complete certainty that there are a number of adjectives you can use to describe Saine, but "explosive" is not one of them. I'm not sure what Benson is using to define explosive but if it is the combine numbers, Green has nearly identical numbers to Saine.He is correct in saying that Saine never played to his measureables at OSU. For some reason (and it's probably that he just wasn't a great RB), he always seemed like he was the 3rd best RB on the team.

 
I'm definitely going to make a push to land Green and Saine on my dynasty rosters. I think one of those guys breaks into the lineup with regularity. Potentially even unseating the vaunted James Starks of Super Bowl fame.
Saine looks like a serviceable backup....do you think he is explosive enough to be a starter? I didn't see any evidence of that last year....but am open to hearing from others....
Not just for the Packers...but I give a lot of rookies a pass for last year.

No real offseason of work...shortened everything as far as getting up to speed with their new teams.

As for Saine...I don't think GB needs explosion out of a starting RB.

That said...not sure any back in GB will be worth owning.
This is a huge aspect of FF that many owners will be ignoring. I expect many second year players to break out from simply finally having preparation with coaches prior to the season...thinking Shane Vereen for sure.Saine is the most explosive RB of the 3 by a pure measurables standpoint. However, he didn't play to that potential at Ohio State and suffered from many injuries.
Interesting. Didn't realize that.
It is probably because it just isn't true. As an OSU fan, I can say with complete certainty that there are a number of adjectives you can use to describe Saine, but "explosive" is not one of them. I'm not sure what Benson is using to define explosive but if it is the combine numbers, Green has nearly identical numbers to Saine.He is correct in saying that Saine never played to his measureables at OSU. For some reason (and it's probably that he just wasn't a great RB), he always seemed like he was the 3rd best RB on the team.
In shorts, Saine is a faster football player. That doesn't make him explosive on the football field. I'm not sure how you could argue that. Saine ran a 4.40(some talk of Saine breaking into the 4.3's), Green ran a 4.45. All other drills they were very similar. In pads, Green looks more explosive(pre injury) and i'd expect Green to be the better NFL player. Hence why he was drafted in the 3rd round and Saine wasn't drafted at all.

Saine was a big time recruit that didn't do much at Ohio State.

 
Dom Capers' restocked defense key to Packers' success

By Dan Hanzus

Writer

Around the League will examine one key figure under pressure on each team heading into the 2012 season. Next up: The Green Bay Packers

Under Pressure: Dom Capers

Though he was far from his sharpest in the Packers' postseason loss, no one will blame Aaron Rodgers for his team's inability to get back to the Super Bowl in 2011.

In truth, it was Rodgers' brilliance that covered up many warts in Green Bay, particularly on the defensive side of the ball. The Packers were asking Rodgers to be perfect every week. When he wasn't against the New York Giants, Titletown was toast.

The Packers obviously knew this, which explained why they used their first six draft picks to shore up Dom Capers' defense. The team selected USC defensive end Nick Perry in the first round, then traded up twice in the second round to grab Michigan State defensive end Jerel Worthy and Vanderbilt defensive back Casey Heyward. Capers will lean on each of the players to make an instant impact.

The Packers made the difficult decision to cut ties with safety Nick Collins after determining the three-time Pro Bowler faced too great a risk following neck surgery. It's a loss, no doubt, but Capers now has an entire offseason to find a way to replace him.

Perry will be counted on to provide pressure on the opposite end of Clay Matthews, with the hope that Matthews can return to being the sack-compiler he was in 2010. Matthews has moved from left to right outside linebacker to make way for Perry, and Capers could move Matthews around more then ever.

"I hope so. That's the plan," Matthews said last week. "It's all about mismatches and preferable lineups. Whenever we can take advantage of that, playing on the right side, left side, middle, wherever you want me to play, we're all about that, so I hope that's the case."

The Packers are a smart organization that realized where they fell short last year and acted aggressively to fix it. They turned draft day into Christmas for Capers, re-stocking the roster with young talent to assimilate with a proven core.

Now Capers has to find a way to make it work. The Packers re-tooled the defense with new personnel in 2012. If that doesn't take, a new coordinator might be next.
 
Apparently the team and Rodgers are close to agreeing on an extension.

Twitter saying 5 years $96 million.

How funny if they get that done before Brees and the Saints get a deal done.

 
Apparently the team and Rodgers are close to agreeing on an extension.Twitter saying 5 years $96 million.How funny if they get that done before Brees and the Saints get a deal done.
Hope it's true, obviously the key to the offense. Pay the man.
 
Anyone hear anything on Dale Moss from OTA's? That is the wr I am thinking will be the #5 guy, just based on numbers, I do not think anyone on the squad posted numbers close to his. I realize he is raw as a wr, but at 6'4 and 4.38 speed and a 40+ vertical and I think he had crazy shuttle numbers also, I think that is a guy you have to give a shot.

 
'Balco said:
'sho nuff said:
Apparently the team and Rodgers are close to agreeing on an extension.Twitter saying 5 years $96 million.How funny if they get that done before Brees and the Saints get a deal done.
Hope it's true, obviously the key to the offense. Pay the man.
Yep it's well deserved. Backup QB should be a priority though, especially towards the end of that deal. I know yall would love for him to play into his late 30's like Brady/Manning/Favre...but that doesn't always happen.
 
'Balco said:
'sho nuff said:
Apparently the team and Rodgers are close to agreeing on an extension.Twitter saying 5 years $96 million.How funny if they get that done before Brees and the Saints get a deal done.
Hope it's true, obviously the key to the offense. Pay the man.
Yep it's well deserved. Backup QB should be a priority though, especially towards the end of that deal. I know yall would love for him to play into his late 30's like Brady/Manning/Favre...but that doesn't always happen.
No kidding especially after watching the Colts last year (and get him some late game playing time).
 
'DesmondBishop said:
Anyone hear anything on Dale Moss from OTA's? That is the wr I am thinking will be the #5 guy, just based on numbers, I do not think anyone on the squad posted numbers close to his. I realize he is raw as a wr, but at 6'4 and 4.38 speed and a 40+ vertical and I think he had crazy shuttle numbers also, I think that is a guy you have to give a shot.
Don't think there is anyway he beats out Borel or Gurley (and that is if there is a move made getting rid of someone already ahead of all of them).I think Moss is a PS guy this year and will be safe there.
 

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