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I prefer Pierce straight up.
Man, I am an idiot. I keep mixing up Short and Hilton today for some stupid reason.
Easy mistake to make, the names are so similar.
Sort of. You keep 14 QB/RB/WR/TE each year, so every year there are some ok guys available. And since cuts are in february, from then till the draft (in may) a lot can happenEasy mistake to make, the names are so similar.
Is this a keeper league? The reason I ask is that I am surprised to Vereen in the free agent draft.
That said, I own Hilton, but wouldn't trade him for Wayne and the 1.12
I approve, as I too received Russell. My QBs were Eli, Bradford, Foles, and Wallace was my WR4. I think their value is practically the same right now. Only difference in my trade was I gave up 2.07 and received a '14 2nd. I now have four '14 2nds.
So this was obviously an FFPC league? That's a sick collection of available players. Makes no sense. No one remotely as valued as those guys were cut in the two leagues I'm in, not even close. Was it the same owner who cut those guys?Sort of. You keep 14 QB/RB/WR/TE each year, so every year there are some ok guys available. And since cuts are in february, from then till the draft (in may) a lot can happenEasy mistake to make, the names are so similar.
Is this a keeper league? The reason I ask is that I am surprised to Vereen in the free agent draft.
That said, I own Hilton, but wouldn't trade him for Wayne and the 1.12
Well Decker was available in ours last year which was shocking where he was going in startups last year.So this was obviously an FFPC league? That's a sick collection of available players. Makes no sense. No one remotely as valued as those guys were cut in the two leagues I'm in, not even close. Was it the same owner who cut those guys?Sort of. You keep 14 QB/RB/WR/TE each year, so every year there are some ok guys available. And since cuts are in february, from then till the draft (in may) a lot can happenEasy mistake to make, the names are so similar.
Is this a keeper league? The reason I ask is that I am surprised to Vereen in the free agent draft.
That said, I own Hilton, but wouldn't trade him for Wayne and the 1.12
Anyway I'd trade Hilton for Wayne and 1.12 with that group of players available.
Yep, FFPC, and I am not sure how it all happened, but I think a couple deals went down close to cuts and the guy had to cut players or something. Who knows, but I see 8 rookies I would like to have, and any of those four paired with Wayne I think would ease the pain of losing Wayne in a year or two
That's true bu he's just one guy who was available in a few FFPC league and obviously he was cut when people thought Tebow was going to be the QB. Redman was a guy who was not available in our league but was in others and I want to say people were picking him in top of the first round.Well Decker was available in ours last year which was shocking where he was going in startups last year.So this was obviously an FFPC league? That's a sick collection of available players. Makes no sense. No one remotely as valued as those guys were cut in the two leagues I'm in, not even close. Was it the same owner who cut those guys?Sort of. You keep 14 QB/RB/WR/TE each year, so every year there are some ok guys available. And since cuts are in february, from then till the draft (in may) a lot can happenEasy mistake to make, the names are so similar.
Is this a keeper league? The reason I ask is that I am surprised to Vereen in the free agent draft.
That said, I own Hilton, but wouldn't trade him for Wayne and the 1.12
Anyway I'd trade Hilton for Wayne and 1.12 with that group of players available.
Team B - Got a guy trying to move Murray in a league, can't see anyone paying that for him.
Not one of the teams that has those players. This team is not stacked at RB and did have lets say a 70/30 chance of making the playoffs again this year and, after a series of moves including this one, now has a 80/20 chance of NOT making the playoffs. Taking my lumps now (along with a $1250 donation) for the sake of the future and overall team value.
I would be happy to pay pick 3 and Housler for Murray.cstu said:
You have Alfred Morris as your RB3 and flex spot, and one of Julio/Dez as your WR3, with Garcon behind them. You could certainly afford to make this move, and your team is better for it.
I like The Murray side in deal 1. Only 1 TE spot, and 3 flex spots. Makes non elite TEs less valuable. The Cowboys' offense line will be a lot better with Franklin and - knock on wood - health. He gets a very high number of targets and is still young/talented. I am not one to call a guy injury prone based on two unrelated contact caused injuries. I don't blame anyone for staying away from Murray and taking the other side, however.coolnerd said:
I think there is reason to. But I still like Fleener and if I was confident my pick would be 8-12, a future first isn't a bad price to pay for a Gore, assuming he plugs a hole at RB2.
Shameless bump cause I'd like to hear people's opinion on this.
I think you did well for yourself. I'd take the 1.04 over Garcon, but the pick swap (w/condition) pushes it to your side, in my opinion.
Good deal for Reed, I wouldn't have expected him to go that late in 1.5 PPR.
Who are you taking at the 1.04 that is going to score more than Garcon? When healthy, using the last 6 games for comparison, he's on pace during a full season to go 90/1300/7 .............??????????
Reed is one of my favorite college players ever, as a Gator fan, and I don't think he's too far behind Hernandez, honestly, as a prospect. Very fluid, elusive, and powerful with the ball in his hand. And the Skins certainly didn't draft him to stay in and block. I know it's not likely that he is ever Herandez, but I think that's his ceiling.
I like the pick side all day in trade 2. Two first round picks for Josh Gordon, with one of them being 1.03 this year? That just seems really high to me. I have the 1.03 this year, and wouldn't trade it straight up for Gordon. I really like the potential of Bell, Gio, or Austin, and I'm not nearly as high on Gordon as others are.
So the Gordon trade was pre-rookie draft and Reed trade was post? Who did he take 1.03? Just curious.
I would trade 1.03 for Gordon straight up. But not the 1.03 and a 2014 1st. Fwiw I offered a 2014 1st for Gordon and was declined.
Who is going to score more? I don't know. If that's your criteria - keep Garcon. Who is more talented? Austin/Patterson. Who is likely to be worth more due to position scarcity? Gio/Lacy.
Correct. The Gordon pick was right at the end of the startup, and the Reed trade was during the rookie draft. The owner ended up taking Gio Bernard at 1.03.
I think you and others are getting way too fancy and bored over the off-season to be thinking of making trades like that. 1.04 for Garcon this year is nuts in almost any league format.
Bruce Hammond has both Patterson and Austin over Garcon, FWIW.
Gordon, is 22, averaged 9.969 ppg in ppr last season and is the #1 wr option on his team.
If we call the picks a wash, I'd take Rodgers over Jordy/Stafford. Change Stafford to Wilson, whom I'm higher on, and it is tough to call. Even in a 4 point league, Rodgers is an elite part, with rock stable value moving over the next 5-7 years.
Garcon v Gordon is an easy call for me to make. I was late to the Gordon party and thus missed out on him at his lowest value. But my startup prep led me to hop on the bandwagon and his current market price is still a bargain. Take advantage of people - like myself, at one point - who didn't watch much Brown football and didn't know who Grodon was when he was drafted (supp).
Garcon is not a special talent. He is a NFL WR2 who was the best available WR in a down FA year. He landed in a perfect spot, and responded with some big games and a big injury that still affects him. Did we think so highly of Garcon when he was a situational player in Indy behind Collie? No, we thought he was another Meachem. Yeah he delivered stats last year in the few games he played, but we can't pretend he's an elite talent. He's not even Dwayne Bowe, just paired with a better QB.
In this league, Gio, Lacy and Austin will be gone at 1.04. I flip-flopped between Patterson/Hopkins or Garçon but the 2014 1st was enough for me.
