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2014 ACC Basketball [Closed - use 2015 thread instead] (1 Viewer)

I feel your pain, dude. I'm happy for Carolina winning tonight, but it's with a heavy heart. We're going to have to put our dog down tomorrow after having him for 15 years. I've been bummed all night.
Our furry family hold special places in our hearts. I'm sorry about your furry friend. You and your buddy are lucky to have had 15 great years together. Maybe you can slip him a special snack tonight. :banned: to a great life and being loved. GB.
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I've been there, Grady. One of the toughest things I've been through in my life. T&P.

 
The network can't be happy about the Cuse and Duke losses. Definitely takes a lot of luster off that matchup for those without a close affiliation.

 
Storming the court. :lmao:
The internet fun police have been out in force with their hot sports takes on this one. Nothing like adults lecturing a bunch kids having a once in a lifetime experience so the adults can feel smug about it. Good to see that there was only one or two posters bringing that kind of stupidity here.

This Duke team still looks like a contender to me. The Heels played some great defense but Duke missed a lot of open looks too. As long as they get that 2 seed you have to think they can go three games without a similar lapse and get to a Final Four- I know there haven't been many such lapses this season.
Well, I'm much closer to being one of those kids than I am to being in the Ram's Club so I'm not really sure your criticism holds much water.

For one, storming the court acknowledges that you are the inferior team. If UNC wants to do that, then so be it. Kind of like chanting overrated at a team you just beat. In my eyes, it devalues your victory.

Beyond that, in times of dwindling student attendance, I think its rich that somehow this is an indication of the passion in college sports. Let's call it what it is, drunk kids just want to celebrate. They don't care what it is they are celebrating.
It does no such thing. Just because you say it doesn't make it so. As was mentioned earlier in the thread, a Final Four level Duke team once rushed the floor after a crazy buzzer beater over Virginia Tech. It happens all the time.

And yes, it's a passionate celebration. Again, just because you say it isn't doesn't make it so. And on top of that, the only ones who are drunk are the ones who sneak in booze, the rest haven't had a sip for hours. If you've ever been in the building for a game where the students rushed the floor you know exactly what it is. I don't see what Miami having trouble selling tickets to a midweek game against Boston College has to do with last night.

 
I hate the Duke/UNC game.

I mean, I always watch it. Its fun. But, I always end up rooting against Duke, which means, well... I can't even say it. :X

I feel so dirty afterwards.
This is blasphemous... There is no circumstance in which I could root for UNC.
I don't choose to do it. It just happens.I can't stand seeing Duke win, ever.

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It's very disturbing behavior, worm.

 
I try to avoid posting homer columns and blogs in the sports threads, but I thought our resident fuddy-duddies might enjoy this column excerpt about the scene they think shouldn't have happened:

My eight-year-old son sits on the basket beside the Tar Heel bench--the one in front of the risers. His official title is ballboy and sweat wiper but his real role is to get, as one person put it on Twitter, "SO TURNT UP!!!" In the car on the way to the game, he asked me, "Do you think if we win the students will storm the court?"

They probably will, I told him. And if they do, you should climb up on the basket support and let them go by.

"And then can I go out there?" he asked me.

"Yes," I said. This is not textbook parenting, but in 1992 I stormed the court after the Bloody Montross game and I have never, ever forgotten it.

As time expired and the students started deservedly streaming onto the court, I looked down towards the goal, and there was Asher, crouched on the basket support, simultaneously looking terrified and thrilled. It was 11:15 p.m. on a school night and Carolina had just beaten Duke and the students were storming the court and it was completely obvious that he was never, ever going to forget that moment.

My wife texted me: "Is Asher OK?"

I wrote back: "I think this might be the best day of his life."

As he left the court, Desmond Hubert was crying. "It was such a great feeling," he said. "I've never felt like that, like I'm so happy that I'm crying." He said it with a little bit of wonder, like he couldn't believe that one basketball game could do that to a person.

But it can, and I wrote that down.

With the students still completely covering the court, Jump Around played over the arena PA system, and everyone did their best Danny Green impersonation. It was a purely unscripted moment of joy, and it felt like it might not get much better than that. Except it did, because then played the alma mater, and strangers put their arms around strangers, and everyone shouted the key parts with as much voice as they had left ...
You're probably right, though. Better to deprive that 8 year old kid, and that hardworking player who gets 5 minutes a game on the floor and will never play at the pro level, and all those overjoyed students, of one aspect of a night they'll never forget so we can make sure nobody violates your meaningless unwritten rules of fan decorum. That's probably what's best for the sport.

 
Then lets everyone just rush the court after every game. Heck, why haven't Duke/UNC rushed the court in games in god knows how long? What about those kids who were deprived?

They'll never do it but I wish the Crazies just rushed after Cuse and UNC know to prove a point of how ridiculous its gotten.

 
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Then lets everyone just rush the court after every game. Heck, why haven't Duke/UNC rushed the court in games in god knows how long? What about those kids who were deprived?

They'll never do it but I wish the Crazies just rushed after Cuse and UNC know to prove a point of how ridiculous its gotten.
I love that you think it would be "proving a point" but the truth is that the only people who would give a #### if Duke rushed the floor Saturday are people who share your view anyway.

Fans should do whatever they're moved to do, so long as it doesn't interfere with anyone else's well-being or enjoyment of the game. If Duke fans feel the urge to rush the floor after an amazing buzzer-beater over Virginia Tech or a win over #1 Syracuse, awesome. If Wake Forest fans are moved to rush the floor if they beat Boston College, go crazy. Doesn't matter to me, and I can't fathom why it matters to you.

 
Can I just add that I'm really enjoying the "Should UNC students have rushed the court" debate. It is a million times more enjoyable than the "What's wrong with UNC" debate.

Carry on.

 
Then lets everyone just rush the court after every game. Heck, why haven't Duke/UNC rushed the court in games in god knows how long?
Last year Duke fans wanted to rush the court after beating UNC @ Duke, and Coach K signaled them off the court. Instead they went outside and did their usual bench burning.

 
From ESPN's Bubble Watch:

Which is precisely why UNC isn't yet a 100 percent guaranteed lock to make the NCAA tournament. The Tar Heels have a quick home turnaround against Wake Forest on Saturday. They go to NC State and visit woeful, RPI-killing Virginia Tech next week. Then, it's a home date with Notre Dame before the rematch at Duke on March 8. Could North Carolina go 5-0 in those five games? Yes. Could it go 0-5? Absolutely! Would a 19-12 team with losses to UAB, Virginia Tech and a sweep at the hands of Wake Forest have to sweat out the ACC tournament? Probably.
Don't buy that for a second. I doubt they go 0-5. They've won 8 straight including a big win against Duke and suddenly they're just going to lose 5 in a row?

 
MattFancy said:
From ESPN's Bubble Watch:

Which is precisely why UNC isn't yet a 100 percent guaranteed lock to make the NCAA tournament. The Tar Heels have a quick home turnaround against Wake Forest on Saturday. They go to NC State and visit woeful, RPI-killing Virginia Tech next week. Then, it's a home date with Notre Dame before the rematch at Duke on March 8. Could North Carolina go 5-0 in those five games? Yes. Could it go 0-5? Absolutely! Would a 19-12 team with losses to UAB, Virginia Tech and a sweep at the hands of Wake Forest have to sweat out the ACC tournament? Probably.
Don't buy that for a second. I doubt they go 0-5. They've won 8 straight including a big win against Duke and suddenly they're just going to lose 5 in a row?
UNC seems to be a team that can beat anyone and lose to anyone. I think that's probably what they are trying to get across. It wouldn't shock me to see them win all the game or lose all the games.

 
MattFancy said:
From ESPN's Bubble Watch:

Which is precisely why UNC isn't yet a 100 percent guaranteed lock to make the NCAA tournament. The Tar Heels have a quick home turnaround against Wake Forest on Saturday. They go to NC State and visit woeful, RPI-killing Virginia Tech next week. Then, it's a home date with Notre Dame before the rematch at Duke on March 8. Could North Carolina go 5-0 in those five games? Yes. Could it go 0-5? Absolutely! Would a 19-12 team with losses to UAB, Virginia Tech and a sweep at the hands of Wake Forest have to sweat out the ACC tournament? Probably.
Don't buy that for a second. I doubt they go 0-5. They've won 8 straight including a big win against Duke and suddenly they're just going to lose 5 in a row?
UNC seems to be a team that can beat anyone and lose to anyone. I think that's probably what they are trying to get across. It wouldn't shock me to see them win all the game or lose all the games.
I'd be pretty shocked if they lost five in a row considering they'll be a slight favorite in one of them and a heavy favorite in three of them. And even if they did somehow lose five in a row they'd be a lock for the tournament with one ACC tourney win to get them to 20-13 with four monster wins. So they'd actually have to lose six in a row to miss. I think that guy's trolling for clicks.

 
MattFancy said:
From ESPN's Bubble Watch:

Which is precisely why UNC isn't yet a 100 percent guaranteed lock to make the NCAA tournament. The Tar Heels have a quick home turnaround against Wake Forest on Saturday. They go to NC State and visit woeful, RPI-killing Virginia Tech next week. Then, it's a home date with Notre Dame before the rematch at Duke on March 8. Could North Carolina go 5-0 in those five games? Yes. Could it go 0-5? Absolutely! Would a 19-12 team with losses to UAB, Virginia Tech and a sweep at the hands of Wake Forest have to sweat out the ACC tournament? Probably.
Don't buy that for a second. I doubt they go 0-5. They've won 8 straight including a big win against Duke and suddenly they're just going to lose 5 in a row?
UNC seems to be a team that can beat anyone and lose to anyone. I think that's probably what they are trying to get across. It wouldn't shock me to see them win all the game or lose all the games.
I'd be pretty shocked if they lost five in a row considering they'll be a slight favorite in one of them and a heavy favorite in three of them. And even if they did somehow lose five in a row they'd be a lock for the tournament with one ACC tourney win to get them to 20-13 with four monster wins. So they'd actually have to lose six in a row to miss. I think that guy's trolling for clicks.
Agreed. They're really only bad losses are to Miami, Wake, and UAB. The Texas loss doesn't look bad considering they're a top 20 team and Belmont seems likely to win their conference and make the tourney.

Yes they have some bad losses, but that was a month ago. Since Roy has finally settled on a starting lineup, they've gone 8-0 with wins against Pitt and Duke. Could they have a bit of a let down against Wake? Yeah I guess they could. But the game at FSU seemed like the perfect time for a letdown and they rallied and won that. I like their chances at home against Wake.

 
MattFancy said:
From ESPN's Bubble Watch:

Which is precisely why UNC isn't yet a 100 percent guaranteed lock to make the NCAA tournament. The Tar Heels have a quick home turnaround against Wake Forest on Saturday. They go to NC State and visit woeful, RPI-killing Virginia Tech next week. Then, it's a home date with Notre Dame before the rematch at Duke on March 8. Could North Carolina go 5-0 in those five games? Yes. Could it go 0-5? Absolutely! Would a 19-12 team with losses to UAB, Virginia Tech and a sweep at the hands of Wake Forest have to sweat out the ACC tournament? Probably.
Don't buy that for a second. I doubt they go 0-5. They've won 8 straight including a big win against Duke and suddenly they're just going to lose 5 in a row?
UNC seems to be a team that can beat anyone and lose to anyone. I think that's probably what they are trying to get across. It wouldn't shock me to see them win all the game or lose all the games.
I'd be pretty shocked if they lost five in a row considering they'll be a slight favorite in one of them and a heavy favorite in three of them. And even if they did somehow lose five in a row they'd be a lock for the tournament with one ACC tourney win to get them to 20-13 with four monster wins. So they'd actually have to lose six in a row to miss. I think that guy's trolling for clicks.
ESPN is trolling for clicks? I think it's more likely the guy's just a moron.

 
MattFancy said:
From ESPN's Bubble Watch:

Which is precisely why UNC isn't yet a 100 percent guaranteed lock to make the NCAA tournament. The Tar Heels have a quick home turnaround against Wake Forest on Saturday. They go to NC State and visit woeful, RPI-killing Virginia Tech next week. Then, it's a home date with Notre Dame before the rematch at Duke on March 8. Could North Carolina go 5-0 in those five games? Yes. Could it go 0-5? Absolutely! Would a 19-12 team with losses to UAB, Virginia Tech and a sweep at the hands of Wake Forest have to sweat out the ACC tournament? Probably.
Don't buy that for a second. I doubt they go 0-5. They've won 8 straight including a big win against Duke and suddenly they're just going to lose 5 in a row?
UNC seems to be a team that can beat anyone and lose to anyone. I think that's probably what they are trying to get across. It wouldn't shock me to see them win all the game or lose all the games.
I'd be pretty shocked if they lost five in a row considering they'll be a slight favorite in one of them and a heavy favorite in three of them. And even if they did somehow lose five in a row they'd be a lock for the tournament with one ACC tourney win to get them to 20-13 with four monster wins. So they'd actually have to lose six in a row to miss. I think that guy's trolling for clicks.
ESPN is trolling for clicks? I think it's more likely the guy's just a moron.
I assume that guy's employment/ompensation is dependent on page views.

I've read his stuff before and follow him on Twitter, he's usually pretty solid, so I thought this was really weird.

 
simey said:
sporthenry said:
Then lets everyone just rush the court after every game. Heck, why haven't Duke/UNC rushed the court in games in god knows how long?
Last year Duke fans wanted to rush the court after beating UNC @ Duke, and Coach K signaled them off the court. Instead they went outside and did their usual bench burning.
droll

 
simey said:
Worm said:
Just Win Baby said:
I hate the Duke/UNC game.

I mean, I always watch it. Its fun. But, I always end up rooting against Duke, which means, well... I can't even say it. :X

I feel so dirty afterwards.
This is blasphemous... There is no circumstance in which I could root for UNC.
I don't choose to do it. It just happens.I can't stand seeing Duke win, ever.

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It's very disturbing behavior, worm.
:goodposting:

I'm concerned.

 
Lol.

I SAID I feel dirty, OK? Jeez...you'd think I could count on my fellow pack fans for emotional support.

 
sporthenry said:
Then lets everyone just rush the court after every game. Heck, why haven't Duke/UNC rushed the court in games in god knows how long? What about those kids who were deprived?

They'll never do it but I wish the Crazies just rushed after Cuse and UNC know to prove a point of how ridiculous its gotten.
Does it bother you this deeply? That's as ridiculous as you thinking it's ridiculous they rushed the court. In the grand scheme of things, other than to you obviously, does it really matter?

 
Just Win Baby said:
I feel your pain, dude. I'm happy for Carolina winning tonight, but it's with a heavy heart. We're going to have to put our dog down tomorrow after having him for 15 years. I've been bummed all night.
Our furry family hold special places in our hearts. I'm sorry about your furry friend. You and your buddy are lucky to have had 15 great years together. Maybe you can slip him a special snack tonight. :banned: to a great life and being loved. GB.
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I've been there, Grady. One of the toughest things I've been through in my life. T&P.
Thanks... we're about to take our little guy to the vet. It's been a long and emotional day.

 
Good luck Grady. Sucks to do, but you wouldn't feel this way if he didn't already bring you so much joy.

 
sporthenry said:
Then lets everyone just rush the court after every game. Heck, why haven't Duke/UNC rushed the court in games in god knows how long? What about those kids who were deprived?

They'll never do it but I wish the Crazies just rushed after Cuse and UNC know to prove a point of how ridiculous its gotten.
Does it bother you this deeply? That's as ridiculous as you thinking it's ridiculous they rushed the court. In the grand scheme of things, other than to you obviously, does it really matter?
Not really. I made a :lmao: at rushing the court then got an essay from TF about it so I responded. I just think its become cliche and lost its magic. So sure, I'm now for everyone doing it so they can experience it after every game.

Good luck with the dog. Sorry to hear about it.

 
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UNC should be ranked in the 15-18 range if they beat WF tomm.

Duke should drop to 8-10 if they lose to Cuse or stay top 5 with a W.

Fair assessment?

 
sporthenry said:
Then lets everyone just rush the court after every game. Heck, why haven't Duke/UNC rushed the court in games in god knows how long? What about those kids who were deprived?

They'll never do it but I wish the Crazies just rushed after Cuse and UNC know to prove a point of how ridiculous its gotten.
Does it bother you this deeply? That's as ridiculous as you thinking it's ridiculous they rushed the court. In the grand scheme of things, other than to you obviously, does it really matter?
Not really. I made a :lmao: at rushing the court then got an essay from TF about it so I responded. I just think its become cliche and lost its magic. So sure, I'm now for everyone doing it so they can experience it after every game.

Good luck with the dog. Sorry to hear about it.
Thanks, dude.

 
Good luck Grady. Sucks to do, but you wouldn't feel this way if he didn't already bring you so much joy.
Thanks. It was a very hard thing to do. One of the hardest things I've gone through. We just got home and it just isn't the same.
Yea, sucks man... At the end of the day, you did what was best for your dog, even though it feels awful.
I appreciate it. I was a little better once it was finally over. I dug a hole for him at our land where we're about to start building our new house. That was really hard and like I said when I got home tonight and walked in the door I broke down again. I was expecting to hear his bark when we walked in. Just a real bummer. My wife is taking it very hard. Thanks again for the kind words...

 
Good luck Grady. Sucks to do, but you wouldn't feel this way if he didn't already bring you so much joy.
Thanks. It was a very hard thing to do. One of the hardest things I've gone through. We just got home and it just isn't the same.
Yea, sucks man... At the end of the day, you did what was best for your dog, even though it feels awful.
I appreciate it. I was a little better once it was finally over. I dug a hole for him at our land where we're about to start building our new house. That was really hard and like I said when I got home tonight and walked in the door I broke down again. I was expecting to hear his bark when we walked in. Just a real bummer. My wife is taking it very hard. Thanks again for the kind words...
Wish there were more than Internet forum words to give but it's all we have. Just know the words mean even Big East leaning 'Cuse fans wish we could do more to make it easier.

Puts some perspective on our silly little games played by guys half many of our age.

 
Really sorry about the dog. We had to put our nearly 15 year old golden retriever (family dog that was still living with my mom) to sleep like a year ago. I just felt awful about it for weeks. My mom got a new dog last summer that she absolutely loves. I would do the same, but I would feel awful having a dog home alone by itself all day (I live alone in a relatively small condo)

Once you're ready, I would definitely suggest to get a new dog. It definitely helps. Hang in there

 
As long as they're safe...I'm not really bothered by the kids storming the court.

Celebrate...hell, that's half the fun of a victory over your rival...dance around and have a great time.

 
As long as they're safe...I'm not really bothered by the kids storming the court.

Celebrate...hell, that's half the fun of a victory over your rival...dance around and have a great time.
Sorry, you're wrong. Winning a college basketball game is a solemn occasion and must be treated like a butterfly.

 
Really sorry about the dog. We had to put our nearly 15 year old golden retriever (family dog that was still living with my mom) to sleep like a year ago. I just felt awful about it for weeks. My mom got a new dog last summer that she absolutely loves. I would do the same, but I would feel awful having a dog home alone by itself all day (I live alone in a relatively small condo)

Once you're ready, I would definitely suggest to get a new dog. It definitely helps. Hang in there
Thanks, dude. I think I remember you talking about putting your dog down here on the board if I'm not mistaken. I'm taking it hard, but my wife is having a very hard time. Before our kids were born, her and our dog spent all their time together. She woke up about 4 this morning in tears. We're staying in a duplex while our house is being built and she says she wants to get another dog. We'll probably wait a while, but get one while we're here to make sure it's fully trained as far as house broken. I have to admit... when I woke up this morning, the house was empty and just not the same.

 
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Good luck Grady. Sucks to do, but you wouldn't feel this way if he didn't already bring you so much joy.
Thanks. It was a very hard thing to do. One of the hardest things I've gone through. We just got home and it just isn't the same.
Yea, sucks man... At the end of the day, you did what was best for your dog, even though it feels awful.
I appreciate it. I was a little better once it was finally over. I dug a hole for him at our land where we're about to start building our new house. That was really hard and like I said when I got home tonight and walked in the door I broke down again. I was expecting to hear his bark when we walked in. Just a real bummer. My wife is taking it very hard. Thanks again for the kind words...
Wish there were more than Internet forum words to give but it's all we have. Just know the words mean even Big East leaning 'Cuse fans wish we could do more to make it easier.

Puts some perspective on our silly little games played by guys half many of our age.
It sure does. Normally, I'm on cloud 9 after Carolina beats Duke and especially like a win the other night. I was mildly excited, but my heart was definitely elsewhere.

 
Storming the court. :lmao:
The internet fun police have been out in force with their hot sports takes on this one. Nothing like adults lecturing a bunch kids having a once in a lifetime experience so the adults can feel smug about it. Good to see that there was only one or two posters bringing that kind of stupidity here.

This Duke team still looks like a contender to me. The Heels played some great defense but Duke missed a lot of open looks too. As long as they get that 2 seed you have to think they can go three games without a similar lapse and get to a Final Four- I know there haven't been many such lapses this season.
Didn't Duke storm the court when Dockery made the buzzer beater against unranked Va Tech? I mean, really?

 
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Let's be honest. Duke is the better team this year. But they ducked a date at UNC because of snow, even though a women's team made it there from Pittsburgh. They deserved to lose tonight. Thrilled by it.
Duke deserved to lose? I don't share your opinion. Those roads were horrible, and Duke's bus couldn't reach them. Nobody had any business driving on those icy and snow covered roads.
Eh, I stand by that statement. UNC offered many things to try to help Duke get there earlier in the day (indoor practice facility, classroom) and K waited until the last minute to try to go. He knew what he was doing. Heck, most coaches would do the same thing.

 
Sorry for Hippleing the thread guys. Wasn't around yesterday.

And Grady, get a new dog. Our puppy died suddenly after ACL surgery three years ago and we wanted to get another. Several weeks after he died, my 2 year old had a allergic reaction to peanut butter so we got her tested for all allergens. Turns out she is allergic to peanuts....and dogs. Still don't have a replacement dog. :(

 
ConstruxBoy said:
Sorry for Hippleing the thread guys. Wasn't around yesterday.

And Grady, get a new dog. Our puppy died suddenly after ACL surgery three years ago and we wanted to get another. Several weeks after he died, my 2 year old had a allergic reaction to peanut butter so we got her tested for all allergens. Turns out she is allergic to peanuts....and dogs. Still don't have a replacement dog. :(
We are going to, I just think we'll wait a little while. I want to wait a little bit, grieve, but also reflect on the good 15 years we had with our lil buddy.

 

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