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2014 Oakland Raiders Regular Season Thread (1 Viewer)
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Sarlakticacid
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massraider
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Not true, by about a hundred grand.Sarlakticacid said:
Raiders schedule?:
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They are never gonna get respect if they can't win on the road. Look at it as an opportunity.
Bring it on baby!!
Bring it on baby!!
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Buzz builds for Taylor Lewan to Oakland at No. 5Posted by Michael David Smith on April 23, 2014, 4:50 PM EDT
Former Michigan offensive tackle Taylor Lewan is looking like a candidate to be the Raiders’ first-round draft pick.
Oakland owns the fifth overall pick, and Jerry McDonald of the Oakland Tribune reports that the Raiders like Lewan better than either of the other top offensive tackles in this year’s draft, Greg Robinson of Auburn or Jake Matthews of Texas A&M.
That’s surprising, as most draft analysts view Robinson and Matthews as superior prospects to Lewan. It’s also surprising that we’re even talking about the Raiders using their first-round pick on an offensive tackle, seeing as they’ve already signed left tackle Donald Penn to a two-year, $9.6 million contract and signed right tackle Austin Howard to a five-year, $30 million contract.
But the Raiders are often unconventional, so if their draft board looks different than most teams’ draft boards, that’s par for the course.
Most mock drafts haven’t had Lewan in the Top 5, but ESPN’s Mel Kiper suggested today that the Rams could take Lewan with the second overall pick. So it’s possible that Lewan won’t even be there for the Raiders at No. 5. But if he is, don’t be surprised if the Raiders take him.
RaiderBones
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That writer needs to do more reasearch. Austin Howard is going to be playing at RG. So Lewan would more then likely be competing against Menelik Watson for the RT position. Which may not be a bad thing. Give Watson a bit more time to develop. Who knows maybe one of them could start at LG this season. Something like, Penn, Watson, Wis, Howard, Lewan.Buzz builds for Taylor Lewan to Oakland at No. 5Posted by Michael David Smith on April 23, 2014, 4:50 PM EDT
Former Michigan offensive tackle Taylor Lewan is looking like a candidate to be the Raiders’ first-round draft pick.
Oakland owns the fifth overall pick, and Jerry McDonald of the Oakland Tribune reports that the Raiders like Lewan better than either of the other top offensive tackles in this year’s draft, Greg Robinson of Auburn or Jake Matthews of Texas A&M.
That’s surprising, as most draft analysts view Robinson and Matthews as superior prospects to Lewan. It’s also surprising that we’re even talking about the Raiders using their first-round pick on an offensive tackle, seeing as they’ve already signed left tackle Donald Penn to a two-year, $9.6 million contract and signed right tackle Austin Howard to a five-year, $30 million contract.
But the Raiders are often unconventional, so if their draft board looks different than most teams’ draft boards, that’s par for the course.
Most mock drafts haven’t had Lewan in the Top 5, but ESPN’s Mel Kiper suggested today that the Rams could take Lewan with the second overall pick. So it’s possible that Lewan won’t even be there for the Raiders at No. 5. But if he is, don’t be surprised if the Raiders take him.
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I would chalk this up to being a smokescreen, esp. given this follow-up:That writer needs to do more reasearch. Austin Howard is going to be playing at RG. So Lewan would more then likely be competing against Menelik Watson for the RT position. Which may not be a bad thing. Give Watson a bit more time to develop. Who knows maybe one of them could start at LG this season. Something like, Penn, Watson, Wis, Howard, Lewan.Buzz builds for Taylor Lewan to Oakland at No. 5Posted by Michael David Smith on April 23, 2014, 4:50 PM EDT
Former Michigan offensive tackle Taylor Lewan is looking like a candidate to be the Raiders’ first-round draft pick.
Oakland owns the fifth overall pick, and Jerry McDonald of the Oakland Tribune reports that the Raiders like Lewan better than either of the other top offensive tackles in this year’s draft, Greg Robinson of Auburn or Jake Matthews of Texas A&M.
That’s surprising, as most draft analysts view Robinson and Matthews as superior prospects to Lewan. It’s also surprising that we’re even talking about the Raiders using their first-round pick on an offensive tackle, seeing as they’ve already signed left tackle Donald Penn to a two-year, $9.6 million contract and signed right tackle Austin Howard to a five-year, $30 million contract.
But the Raiders are often unconventional, so if their draft board looks different than most teams’ draft boards, that’s par for the course.
Most mock drafts haven’t had Lewan in the Top 5, but ESPN’s Mel Kiper suggested today that the Rams could take Lewan with the second overall pick. So it’s possible that Lewan won’t even be there for the Raiders at No. 5. But if he is, don’t be surprised if the Raiders take him.
"Most mock drafts haven’t had Lewan in the Top 5, but ESPN’s Mel Kiper suggested today that the Rams could take Lewan with the second overall pick. So it’s possible that Lewan won’t even be there for the Raiders at No. 5."
But as the article says, Raiders have been (more unfortunately than not) unconventional with draft picks.
Actually like Lewan -- very big (6'7. 300+), fast and quick (best OL 40 time and broad jump in the class), bona-fide 1st rounder and plays with passion (even off the field, evidenced from his assault of two Buckeyes fans).
I just think we'd be better with one of the concensus top 4 at this point, and I think we need to be willing to take a hard look at Bortles, Manziel, and Bridgewater if they are there (and Clowney is not) if only because it's time to find our long-term QB. These 3 may not pan out, but we can't afford to keep waiting around to develop talent under the center, and gain an identity to build around that QB.
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Actually it's true, by about 40 grandmassraider said:
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DA RAIDERS
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We do get jacked on the scheduling quite often. Sux0rs
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Yup. I said this in an earlier post. Under that scenario Donald would represent the best remaining defensive player on the board and fill a big need for a player maker in the middle of the DLine. Donald would give the Raiders a pass rush up the middle that could disrupt the pure pocket passers like Manning and Rivers.
Makes perfect sense.
Makes perfect sense.
Atomic Punk
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I love the idea of a trade down with the Lions, getting Donald at 10 and an extra 2nd. Perfect scenario for the Raiders.
cstu
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Wow, just looked at the schedule...so, who do you guys like at QB - Mariota or Winston?
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True, but I do not think Donald lasts until 10.Atomic Punk said:
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Possibly, but not really sure if anyone picking before #10 really needs DT - TB, Min, Buf - so you would need another trade up for that to happen.
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I don't think it is as much about need as it is that Donald is an impact player.. That is obvious from his body of work.
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DBs at #Raiders and #49ers "local" pre-draft sessions last week included Stanford's Ed Reynolds, Cal's Kam Jackson and SJSU's Bene Benwikere
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This: @DougHaller Former ASU DB Alden Darby said he worked out for the Patriots, Falcons and Chargers. Raiders to come.
This: @DougHaller Former ASU DB Alden Darby said he worked out for the Patriots, Falcons and Chargers. Raiders to come.
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My latest dream scenario...
Raiders trade with Tampa/Minny/Buff to move down from 5 to between 7-9, getting the other team's 2nd round pick in return. Use the new, lower 1st rd pick to take Aaron Donald.
Then if Teddy B drops, as many seem to be predicting now, they use the 2nd rounder received in the deal above as ammo to package with their existing 2nd rounder to move up into the tail end of the 1st to take Teddy. If we somehow were to come out of the first two rounds with Donald and Bridgewater without having to give up any of our later picks, with both on 5-year rookie deals, I'd do backflips.
Okay, back to reality. With the #5 pick, the Oakland Raiders select... Derrick Carr. Doh!
Raiders trade with Tampa/Minny/Buff to move down from 5 to between 7-9, getting the other team's 2nd round pick in return. Use the new, lower 1st rd pick to take Aaron Donald.
Then if Teddy B drops, as many seem to be predicting now, they use the 2nd rounder received in the deal above as ammo to package with their existing 2nd rounder to move up into the tail end of the 1st to take Teddy. If we somehow were to come out of the first two rounds with Donald and Bridgewater without having to give up any of our later picks, with both on 5-year rookie deals, I'd do backflips.
Okay, back to reality. With the #5 pick, the Oakland Raiders select... Derrick Carr. Doh!
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cstu
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He'll likely be yours. As a Chargers fan I'd prefer your team wallow in mediocrity (I'm rooting for you guys to go 8-8) instead of getting the #1 pick but it looks like you may get it.
ICON211
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This would be a great scenario. I've said it 1,000 times and I will say it 1,001..........I will take any scenario over Derek Carr at 5. Please God do not let this happen.
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Plausible, but consider that Reggie is on notice as well. If the Raiders post another double digit losing season with minimal contribution from the rookie class then it is likely that Reggie and DA are fired. But if the rookie and second year players are making major contributions, and one or two of rookies make the all rookie team, then I think Reggie is safe, but DA gets the ax. So the stakes are very high for Reggie's picks to make a positive impact.
I also get the impression that everyone in the building believes Schaub can bounce back. On top of that if it plays out that the staff is dismissed at the end of the season it will set back a rookie QB's development. For these reasons I believe that the Raiders are looking for a player that will make an immediate impact. This makes Watkins a possibility but Donald makes more sense. He is a great fit at the under DT and brings the possibility of double digit sacks to the position. I also believe he can work at DE in pass rush situations.
As evidenced in the Super bowl, the best way to beat QBs like Rivers and Manning is with a strong pass rush. And, how sweet would it be to see a playmaker at DT?
I also get the impression that everyone in the building believes Schaub can bounce back. On top of that if it plays out that the staff is dismissed at the end of the season it will set back a rookie QB's development. For these reasons I believe that the Raiders are looking for a player that will make an immediate impact. This makes Watkins a possibility but Donald makes more sense. He is a great fit at the under DT and brings the possibility of double digit sacks to the position. I also believe he can work at DE in pass rush situations.
As evidenced in the Super bowl, the best way to beat QBs like Rivers and Manning is with a strong pass rush. And, how sweet would it be to see a playmaker at DT?
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Watkins wouldn't surprise me (or disappoint me) but if recalling last year, Reggie did a pretty good job holding his cards close to his vest. NO ONE had them taking Hayden. I am smelling a smoke screen to bump up the value of the pick, then maybe trade down a couple slots and pick up second rounder. Lot's of interest in Watkins if he slips to 5 according to NFL Sirius.
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K, then let's wait till then. 
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For what it's worth, I have pretty reliable info that unless there is a trade above them, Oakland won't trade out of the 5 slot. Strike that. They won't look to move down unless they are presented with a deal that blows the doors off. As of about 2 weeks ago, I stopped listening to media outlets about who is thinking of doing what, so much now is smoke and mirrors. That said, my original intel from a few months back appears to still be true, that Oakland loves Watkins and will take him at 5 unless someone trades up in front of them to take him. The powers that be do not believe anyone will take him with picks 1-4. There's been SO MUCH Qb news and flopping of apparent draft order for these guys that I am told Oakland's original plan to steal Carr in round 2 may be tougher than originally contemplated. However, believe it or not, Carr is the guy they like and am hoping to get him without having to give anything up to get him.
Whether fans like it or not, I am hearing that the offseason went very close to exactly how the Raiders were hoping it would go. Important people like Schaub and think he can have a strong bounce back this year and perhaps beyond. The Jones-Drew signing was also a boon for them as they also think he is the perfect compliment to DMC in age old quandary in Oakland in keeping DMC healthy. They did a good job filling a lot of holes on defense with good contracts and are now afforded the "luxury" of grabbing a truly gifted WR in Watkins to help Schaub and the offense thrive. This is exactly what I am told Oakland was hoping for and the only thing that didn't go to plan was not getting Pettigrew to further help Schaub's chances for success in 2014.
So, barring a trade in 1-4, I think Oakland takes Watkins and holds their breath that they can still get Carr and not have to throw him into the fire because they have Schaub. If Watkins goes before 5, I do not think they take WR at 5 and try to move down and get more picks.
Whether fans like it or not, I am hearing that the offseason went very close to exactly how the Raiders were hoping it would go. Important people like Schaub and think he can have a strong bounce back this year and perhaps beyond. The Jones-Drew signing was also a boon for them as they also think he is the perfect compliment to DMC in age old quandary in Oakland in keeping DMC healthy. They did a good job filling a lot of holes on defense with good contracts and are now afforded the "luxury" of grabbing a truly gifted WR in Watkins to help Schaub and the offense thrive. This is exactly what I am told Oakland was hoping for and the only thing that didn't go to plan was not getting Pettigrew to further help Schaub's chances for success in 2014.
So, barring a trade in 1-4, I think Oakland takes Watkins and holds their breath that they can still get Carr and not have to throw him into the fire because they have Schaub. If Watkins goes before 5, I do not think they take WR at 5 and try to move down and get more picks.
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Thanks for the post, S+B. Much appreciated. My only complaint is you don't post more.
Cleveland is the only team that might take Watkins, I think.
I'm pretty excited about Watkins. He plays WR like a linebacker, man. Just .....hair on fire. Looks like a savvy pro already.
Cleveland is the only team that might take Watkins, I think.
I'm pretty excited about Watkins. He plays WR like a linebacker, man. Just .....hair on fire. Looks like a savvy pro already.
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Any chance the Raiders move up for Clowney?
RaiderBones
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I have been on the Watkins to Raiders hype train for months now. I would be ecstatic if the Raiders landed Watkins.
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Raiderfan32904
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I don't claim to have any of S&B's inside intel. But I think there's zero chance of that. It would require a future #1 pick and probably another good pick this year. With only their four picks in each of the first 4 rounds and the 3 7th rounders, picks are at a premium. If anything, like S&B said, look for the Raiders to wait on Watkins or trade down.
Stompin' Tom Connors
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Watkins is a special talent, without a doubt, and would be happy to see him in Silver and Black. It's (yet another) position of need, and while we plugged a hole with Jones and have some developing potential in Streater, getting a young potential elite prospect at the position would be fine by me.
But at what point do we have to start trying to develop a potential QB? We've tried to address the position through free agency for decades, without much success. Arguably we don't have the depth of knowledge to groom a college standout to an NFL star, but it's not as if paying for aging QBs has worked out for us either in terms of building a longer term identity and cohesion on offense.
We've taken stabs at raw talent like Pryor in later rounds, but haven't really looked at an early 1st rounder at Top 3 QBs in the draft for a while. If Reggie does pass on a Top 3 QB this year, he likely needs to be even more certain that guys in next year's draft class like Mariotta, Petty, Taylor Kelly, or whomever is better than this year's offering of Bortles, Bridgewater, Manziel, Carr, etc.
I just think that at this juncture of our team, choosing between Watkins (or another BPA like Mack, Matthews, etc.) and a consensus Top 3 QB does come at a cost.
But at what point do we have to start trying to develop a potential QB? We've tried to address the position through free agency for decades, without much success. Arguably we don't have the depth of knowledge to groom a college standout to an NFL star, but it's not as if paying for aging QBs has worked out for us either in terms of building a longer term identity and cohesion on offense.
We've taken stabs at raw talent like Pryor in later rounds, but haven't really looked at an early 1st rounder at Top 3 QBs in the draft for a while. If Reggie does pass on a Top 3 QB this year, he likely needs to be even more certain that guys in next year's draft class like Mariotta, Petty, Taylor Kelly, or whomever is better than this year's offering of Bortles, Bridgewater, Manziel, Carr, etc.
I just think that at this juncture of our team, choosing between Watkins (or another BPA like Mack, Matthews, etc.) and a consensus Top 3 QB does come at a cost.
The only "clue" in my opinion Reggie gave in his most recent press conference is that his phone line will be open. If they go QB at all I'm thinking its probably Carr. If the right scenario presents itself and its a great deal I can see them trading down with a team like the 49ers and grabbing Carr late 1st (which I hope doesn't happen). I hope they go defense, I'm still haunted by the 7 TDs by Philly and Manning, Rivers, Charles in the division, plus a tough schedule, I hope they stay put and grab Mack or trade down a few slots and take Donald.
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