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2014 Oakland Raiders Regular Season Thread (2 Viewers)
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BustedKnuckles
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RaiderBones
Footballguy
If this keeps up I would be surprised if Allen makes it past the bye week.
RBM
Footballguy
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
im waiting for MASS RAIDERS outlook on this
Yeah I do too. I'll always bleed Silver & Black, but its beyond frustrating. I look forward to the NFL season all year long and by week 2 my bubble is burst! I'm tired of it! We have a coaching staff and GM that show almost no emotion, its almost like they don't care. I want to take that Sharpie out of Allen's visor and write "fire me please" on his forehead and get coach in there with a 21st century offense and some sort of b@lls.
BlackMagic10
Footballguy
I'm flying to the London game from the Netherlands and I'm praying it's not going to be too embarrassing.. <_<
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
Garrett
Footballguy
I can't really add any promising outlooks on this season, or this GM/coach, or this franchise since Derrick Brooks broke Rich Gannon's neck. There were obvious issues with Al's failing health that can really only be talked about in a certain light. Reggie's job was very simplistic in his initial 2 seasons, as the roster was littered with s.h.i.t contracts and cutting the fat/slack was a routine process that even the most ill-equipped NFL GM would handle with ease.
I think the most difficult point today is discerning on the field results across Reggie McKenzie and Dennis Allen in terms of influence and impact, but the real world overrides that entire discussion and puts both of them in the same basket because they came in together. Related to that, there were multiple folks claiming the DJ Hayden pick, as soon as it was made, would be a defining decision during McKenzie's tenure; and that thought is starting to bear fruit.
It's cool to hear you guys mention ink and traveling across countries to see the team. I just wanted to weigh in and mention that any burden this fan base deals with, we deal with as a collective. That is how the term Raider Nation came about in the 1980s, and it's still how we handle things today.
I think the most difficult point today is discerning on the field results across Reggie McKenzie and Dennis Allen in terms of influence and impact, but the real world overrides that entire discussion and puts both of them in the same basket because they came in together. Related to that, there were multiple folks claiming the DJ Hayden pick, as soon as it was made, would be a defining decision during McKenzie's tenure; and that thought is starting to bear fruit.
It's cool to hear you guys mention ink and traveling across countries to see the team. I just wanted to weigh in and mention that any burden this fan base deals with, we deal with as a collective. That is how the term Raider Nation came about in the 1980s, and it's still how we handle things today.
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BlackMagic10
Footballguy
joey
Footballguy
Not feeling bad about my young sons (9 and 4) picking other teams they like in addition to the Raiders. Either their cool helmets, or that they won their recent game, or they're named after a cool animal or whatever the reason. Go for it, son. I ain't gonna force you to be a Raiders fan.
GregR
Footballguy
Liked what I saw of Carr. At least there is a good chance there is something there for you guys to build on in the future.
The lack of Raider 1st round picks still with the team seemed pretty telling. Free agency is good with filling some depth and role players, but it is rarely how a successful team is built. Houston has 8 of their last 12 first rounders still with the team by comparison. Hopefully for you guys the Raiders can build on this most recent draft class.
Good luck rest of the season.
The lack of Raider 1st round picks still with the team seemed pretty telling. Free agency is good with filling some depth and role players, but it is rarely how a successful team is built. Houston has 8 of their last 12 first rounders still with the team by comparison. Hopefully for you guys the Raiders can build on this most recent draft class.
Good luck rest of the season.
RaiderBones
Footballguy
I agree I liked what I saw in Carr. Unfortunately for him the rest of the offense is inept. If the Raiders were to get the #1 overall pick which may happen the way they are playing right now I would trade away that pick to a QB needy team that wants to draft Mariotta or Winston and get a huge haul of draft picks. This team also MUST get a #1 WR next season to help out Carr.
To quote Charles Woodson after the game. "We suck." Coming from the team leader there's nothing more to say. There is nothing to over analyze, no silver linings, nothing to get excited about. Simply put, the Raiders are what they are. A bad football team. Maybe going forward Woodson, Carr and anyone else who calls themselves a leader can get their teammates to play for pride at least. And the next time a team puts their star defensive player on offense, pay attention to him, he might do something.
32 Counter Pass
Footballguy
Carr was really the only bright spot in this dumpster fire and, his stat line could have been much better if the Raiders had any clutch WRs. Specifically I am talking about the seem route that hit Streeter in the hands. That pass is caught by a quality wr, maybe for a score. Then Jones fumbles a long gainer into the EZ, and Rivera fumbles another catch to end a drive.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Good post 32CP, Carr is a keeper and hopefully we build around him next draft. Should have some good picks.
Fever in the Funkhouse
Footballguy
Any info on streater and his hip?
johnadams
Footballguy
They should have a fair amount of cap space as well. They front loaded a lot of those FA deals this past offseason to avoid the cap floor while making sure that the 2015 should represent another opportunity. I'm not sure why they deferred signing potential cornerstones, but I suspect it had to do with where they saw the value the past off season vs. what will be available in 2015 (at least in part). I've been a pretty big critic of how OAK managed this past off season, but I think their situation over the past several years (cap, available picks, and talent wise) has been one of the bigger FUBARs in NFL history and it looks like they've gotten through the worst of it (off field that is). Carr looks to be a bright spot and I think McKenzie took over the toughest GM task in the NFL given the state of the team when he arrived.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Cut that bum!
RaiderBones
Footballguy
etweeted by Bill Williamson
Evan Silva @evansilva 2h
Mort said on ESPN there is already talk of #Raiders HC Dennis Allen losing job. "I know a lot of ppl around the league are talking about it"
Evan Silva @evansilva 2hMort said on ESPN there is already talk of #Raiders HC Dennis Allen losing job. "I know a lot of ppl around the league are talking about it"
RaiderBones
Footballguy
Vic Tafur @VicTafur 1h
Allen said they’ll look at everything to turn this around, including him possibly getting more involved/taking over defensive play-calling
Allen said they’ll look at everything to turn this around, including him possibly getting more involved/taking over defensive play-calling
RaiderBones
Footballguy
Bill Williamson @BWilliamsonESPN 1h
#Raiders Vincent Brown signing already has locker
Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 1h
Former #Chargers WR Vincent Brown has signed with the #Raiders, source says. Was always an acrobat, when healthy.
#Raiders Vincent Brown signing already has locker
Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 1h
Former #Chargers WR Vincent Brown has signed with the #Raiders, source says. Was always an acrobat, when healthy.
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RaiderBones
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Retweeted by Christopher Hansen
Adam Caplan @caplannfl 1h
#Raiders waived UDFA LB Bojay Filimoeatu.
[SIZE=14.44444465637207px]This is who the Raiders must have released to make room for Vincent Brown.[/SIZE]
Adam Caplan @caplannfl 1h#Raiders waived UDFA LB Bojay Filimoeatu.
[SIZE=14.44444465637207px]This is who the Raiders must have released to make room for Vincent Brown.[/SIZE]
RaiderBones
Footballguy
Bill Williamson @BWilliamsonESPN 1h
I was told #Raiders were Brown’s first choice. California kid, two shots at #Chargers. Family cheered for Raiders
Bill Williamson @BWilliamsonESPN 1h
If healthy, I’d expect Brown to be one of #Raiders top receivers
I was told #Raiders were Brown’s first choice. California kid, two shots at #Chargers. Family cheered for Raiders
Bill Williamson @BWilliamsonESPN 1h
If healthy, I’d expect Brown to be one of #Raiders top receivers
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Maybe Reggie should take over as head coach, now that we are in full on every man for himself cannibal mode.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
That'll show them! Chargers quaking in their boots!
Hankmoody
Footballguy
That's not entirely his fault, Reggie gave Carson Palmer away for a song. You'd like the coaching staff to make a team better, but they can't polish a turd and make it a bratwurst.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Don't go making DA some kind of sympathetic figure. He's proven to be a sucky coach, and his fingers are in the same pie that shipped Carson off to Arizona. Fire DA now!
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
####### Raiders...scrapping up waiver wire WRs while the D-line is an absolute seive. Talk about rearranging the deck chairs.
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Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Tired of Dennis Allen. Tired of his weak ### excuses. Tired of watching rookie college coaches outclass him on his own field. Incompetent, inept and not gonna be the head coach for much longer. What a weakling! All you Raider fans deserve better. I'm patient, but this cannot be the way!
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
So while I'm on this beer binge y'all have a cold one on me 
watch some real football played tonight.
watch some real football played tonight.
RaiderBones
Footballguy
I was a big supporter of bringing back Dennis Allen this season to see what he could do with a supposedly improved roster after not having much to work with the first two seasons. However, after the first two games of the season I have seen all I needed to see and it's time to move on from Dennis Allen. No need to wait fire him now and move on. I do think if a move is made it will be after week four heading into the bye week allowing the interim coach an extra week to get organized.
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DocHolliday
Footballguy
This has to be the plan. This team is painful to watch. DA must go. Not sure it is going to help due to lack of talent on both sides of the ball but something neds to happen.
I was a big supporter of bringing back Dennis Allen this season to see what he could do with a supposedly improved roster after not having much to work with the first two seasons. However, after the first two games of the season I have seen all I needed to see and it's time to move on from Dennis Allen. No need to wait fire him now and move on. I do think if a move is made it will be after week four heading into the bye week allowing the interim coach an extra week to get organized.
RaiderBones
Footballguy
I think if a head coaching change was made it would be Sparano since he does have head coaching experience.
Autumn Wind
Footballguy
I know how these types of posts come across (i.e. lame) but I'm stating it anyway: I'm out. I'm turning in my shield and walking away from the Raiders.
I think I had pretty realistic expectations coming into this year, as I'm not one of those "we could win the division this year!" chuckleheads. So it's not an 0-2 start that kills me, but the manner in which it's happened. Year in and year it it's the same gutless, brainless play from this same group of underachievers. Al's dead and buried, so no point blaming him anymore. There as an institutional rot with this franchise that goes way beyond one man. And I simply can't take it anymore. I get absolutely no joy whatsoever out of supporting the Raiders franchise, and I refuse to pour any more of my money or emotions into a franchise that is beyond clueless.
I can't endure another year of looking forward to the draft before Halloween gets here. I can't stand turning on a game and waiting for something bad to happen. Life is too short for that crap.
If this means I'm not loyal, not diehard, or not a real man, then so be it. I'm way past the point of caring about that. I watch sports and follow teams to escape from the drudgeries of daily life, not to multiply them. And after three decades of following Raider football, it's just time for me to move on.
For those who stay with Oakland (and I know I'm in the minority), I really hope the Raiders turn it around for you. I certainly wish you and the team no ill will. But the way I see it, this franchise does not deserve the unwavering loyalty they have gotten from so many for so long.
I think I had pretty realistic expectations coming into this year, as I'm not one of those "we could win the division this year!" chuckleheads. So it's not an 0-2 start that kills me, but the manner in which it's happened. Year in and year it it's the same gutless, brainless play from this same group of underachievers. Al's dead and buried, so no point blaming him anymore. There as an institutional rot with this franchise that goes way beyond one man. And I simply can't take it anymore. I get absolutely no joy whatsoever out of supporting the Raiders franchise, and I refuse to pour any more of my money or emotions into a franchise that is beyond clueless.
I can't endure another year of looking forward to the draft before Halloween gets here. I can't stand turning on a game and waiting for something bad to happen. Life is too short for that crap.
If this means I'm not loyal, not diehard, or not a real man, then so be it. I'm way past the point of caring about that. I watch sports and follow teams to escape from the drudgeries of daily life, not to multiply them. And after three decades of following Raider football, it's just time for me to move on.
For those who stay with Oakland (and I know I'm in the minority), I really hope the Raiders turn it around for you. I certainly wish you and the team no ill will. But the way I see it, this franchise does not deserve the unwavering loyalty they have gotten from so many for so long.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
I don't blame you AW. Come back anytime. No explanations necessary. For those of us who stay, it's not really a choice, but an addiction. Good luck to you. I agree life us too short for this ####.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
It can turn around ... You just need the right QB, right GM, and the right coach? Hang in there.
I understand how you feel. You aren't the only one jumping ship. I'm close, most of my friends don't care about them anymore, because like you said, its not worth the emotional toll it takes. Its tough, its like being in a bad relationship. We get nothing out of it but grief, yet we stay.
RaiderBones
Footballguy
I have had some of the same thoughts that you have. I have come close to quitting the Raiders a few times over the past few years. However, I have spent all these years and emotions following the Raiders I can't quit yet. When the Raiders do become relevant again it will make me appreciate it all that much more.Autumn Wind said:
RaiderBones
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Hell, break out his Wildcat offense while he's at it. What's the difference?krsone21 said:
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