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2015 ACC Basketball - CLOSED (use 2016 thread now) (1 Viewer)

or maybe its just you Wreck. Of course, you will NEVER be able to see that. ALL fans, Duke, State, UNCheat, they have all called you out on it. Get over YOUR obsession. Post about your own team and this place would be a lot better. Of course, I guess most of us don't care about NIT teams but still....
See? This childish #### is why folks dump on you.

I think the criticism of you is unwarranted sometimes, but you forge your own chain.

I have a friend who refuses to call the university in Durham by its name; only calls it "Puke". Oh, and no Coach K - it's "Coach Gay". She's a 60 year old woman.

Don't be her.
Good post as always, man, but please don't let Georgia Tech Guy skate away as he always does, only to return and be a jerk another day. His thread-pollution level is quite high. I suspect that if he pulled for a school that people in this thread cared about hating as much as they do some other schools, there would be more people pointing this out.

 
But they do cheat Urak-Hai. :shrug: I mean, the NCAA may elect to look the other way, but I don't see why any Duke or ACC fan would. When the NCAA strips them of the banners and wins they got with "student" athletes that would not have been eligible to play in those games if not for the sham classes, then I promise you won't see another post about it. Unless they don't learn their lesson and cheat again ;)

And I do get the point you were trying to make.

 
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Pretty confident that Duke gets rolled tonight. (as much as UVA can roll someone with their defensive style).

Allen isn't anywhere close to ready to play minutes in a game like this and Matt Jones will be completely useless on offense for this game. (WAAAAY too physical for him and his 8th grade handle) UVA will mug Okafor inside (and probably get away with it like they did against Jabari in the ACC finals last year) and Duke will never score enough points to win.

UVA by like 15. I honestly think its basically over with like 8 minutes to go.

Obviously Sulaimon's development had stalled in a major way, but he brought something to the team that can't be replaced on the current roster. Jones is a pretty good defender but not as good on the ball as Sulaimon. Cook and Jones are both fairly bad out there most of the time. His ability to make athletic drives (although he obviously turned it over way too much) can't be replicated either. (although Allen has the potential to fill that void next season)

And unless the random rumors about Sulaimon getting in a fight with Matt Jones are true, I think his absence will be a negative tonight in terms of team energy. Based on the off-the court stuff we get to see, (social media stuff) it seemed like he was well-liked. I think they're gonna be a bit shell shocked and tonight isnt the night for that.

And yes, in case you can't tell, I'm leaning towards the "this season is mostly over" side of the coin. I think this team has major defensive weaknesses that are going to be badly exploited for the rest of the year.

 
Sinn Fein said:
I am wondering if UVA's schedule can get an easier...
Is this still a thing? Everyone's schedule is same, other than 4 games. I guess Uva and nd have slight advantages in only playing one "contender" twice while the other guys here play two.

Duke: unc, nd, syr, wake

Uva: Lville, ncst, wake, vt

Unc: duke, Lville, ncst, gt

Lville: Uva, unc, Mia, Pitt

Nd: duke, gt, bc, Clem
So you agree UVA has the easiest schedule?

 
or maybe its just you Wreck. Of course, you will NEVER be able to see that. ALL fans, Duke, State, UNCheat, they have all called you out on it. Get over YOUR obsession. Post about your own team and this place would be a lot better. Of course, I guess most of us don't care about NIT teams but still....
See? This childish #### is why folks dump on you.

I think the criticism of you is unwarranted sometimes, but you forge your own chain.

I have a friend who refuses to call the university in Durham by its name; only calls it "Puke". Oh, and no Coach K - it's "Coach Gay". She's a 60 year old woman.

Don't be her.
Good post as always, man, but please don't let Georgia Tech Guy skate away as he always does, only to return and be a jerk another day. His thread-pollution level is quite high. I suspect that if he pulled for a school that people in this thread cared about hating as much as they do some other schools, there would be more people pointing this out.
I don't disagree. Wreck can be a supreme **** and I wish he, too, would stick to games. But, hell - I guess I'm no better as I'm talking about people here instead of the games.

 
didn't UVA also get a week to prepare for Duke with no other games in between? that could be big too, as this will be Duke's 3rd road game in 7 days. I still think if the game is called fairly in the post, Duke can win. Jah is simply the best player on the court. He needs to go all Kyrie Irving and score 55 though. That would help :)

 
And yes, in case you can't tell, I'm leaning towards the "this season is mostly over" side of the coin. I think this team has major defensive weaknesses that are going to be badly exploited for the rest of the year.
No doubt they have defenses issues, but playing Zone can help that vs a lot of teams. Without Sheed, I think they almost HAVE to play zone now. We'll see in 3 or so hours I guess...

 
I also have a feeling we will see Tyus Jones kinda take off from here on out. Jah gets all the pub as he should, but Jones is a heck of a player. I think that duo will carry Duke as far as they can this year. Maybe Winslow too, but man he's banged up and loves contact so much not sure he'll heal up completely this year.

 
But they do cheat Urak-Hai. :shrug: I mean, the NCAA may elect to look the other way, but I don't see why any Duke or ACC fan would. When the NCAA strips them of the banners and wins they got with "student" athletes that would not have been eligible to play in those games if not for the sham classes, then I promise you won't see another post about it. Unless they don't learn their lesson and cheat again ;)

And I do get the point you were trying to make.
You're not getting it, friend. It's not the cheating you're talking about I'm taking issue with - it's your presentation. Look at what I bolded/enlarged above. It reads like a 13 year old wrote that and you do this all of the time. THAT'S why most folks in this thread have a problem with you. When you talk hoops and stay away from your dumb-assed "Cheatin Hill" and "Handsjob" garbage, you're a good read.

 
And yet, if you look carefully, I have gone months before without a word of what you mention, and NOTHING changes around here. EVERY single time there is a chance to dump on K and Duke, or me, dozens of posters do. They are never called out. Yet I always will be. See the bullchit double standard?

 
And Urak, for YEARS I've watched tons of people say "Dook" on these boards and that's acceptable. No one says a word. And that's fine, big deal right? But yet when I do the equivalent saying uncheat, its just dumb-assed awful. Its the double standard I just don't get. :shrug: Anyway, looking forward to hopefully a good game tonight.

 
And yet, if you look carefully, I have gone months before without a word of what you mention, and NOTHING changes around here. EVERY single time there is a chance to dump on K and Duke, or me, dozens of posters do. They are never called out. Yet I always will be. See the bullchit double standard?
As I said, you forged this chain. It sucks you get held to a different standard than others (though I can't recall ANYONE here wishing someone died in a storm like you did a few years ago). The other Duke fans don't get hammered like you do. Why is that?

 
And I had people claiming facts like I had felony charges on my record, a DUI (and I don't even drink) but that was okay too? We should only be enraged about a joke about wishing that hurricane kept him off the boards? Again, NOTHING I have ever said on this board is any worse than what I've gotten back, IN FREAKING SPADES. Again we can discuss via PM if you'd like as this isn't what the thread is for.

 
I quit. Don't know why I tried. Sorry to everyone for polluting this thread. It's all on me. Heading back to the B1G thread.

 
or maybe its just you Wreck. Of course, you will NEVER be able to see that. ALL fans, Duke, State, UNCheat, they have all called you out on it. Get over YOUR obsession. Post about your own team and this place would be a lot better. Of course, I guess most of us don't care about NIT teams but still....
See? This childish #### is why folks dump on you.

I think the criticism of you is unwarranted sometimes, but you forge your own chain.

I have a friend who refuses to call the university in Durham by its name; only calls it "Puke". Oh, and no Coach K - it's "Coach Gay". She's a 60 year old woman.

Don't be her.
Good post as always, man, but please don't let Georgia Tech Guy skate away as he always does, only to return and be a jerk another day. His thread-pollution level is quite high. I suspect that if he pulled for a school that people in this thread cared about hating as much as they do some other schools, there would be more people pointing this out.
I don't disagree. Wreck can be a supreme **** and I wish he, too, would stick to games. But, hell - I guess I'm no better as I'm talking about people here instead of the games.
I didn't do #### in here until AA came in here calling me out by name. I haven't even jumped into the Suliamon fray.

 
or maybe its just you Wreck. Of course, you will NEVER be able to see that. ALL fans, Duke, State, UNCheat, they have all called you out on it. Get over YOUR obsession. Post about your own team and this place would be a lot better. Of course, I guess most of us don't care about NIT teams but still....
See? This childish #### is why folks dump on you.

I think the criticism of you is unwarranted sometimes, but you forge your own chain.

I have a friend who refuses to call the university in Durham by its name; only calls it "Puke". Oh, and no Coach K - it's "Coach Gay". She's a 60 year old woman.

Don't be her.
Good post as always, man, but please don't let Georgia Tech Guy skate away as he always does, only to return and be a jerk another day. His thread-pollution level is quite high. I suspect that if he pulled for a school that people in this thread cared about hating as much as they do some other schools, there would be more people pointing this out.
I posted a laughing smilie. Did you read the thread before spouting off again? Just admit you are responding to a poster and not a post like you always do. Move on dude.

 
can't help but think of the Ron Washington (former Texas Rangers manager) situation. this Sulaimon thing has gone down very similarly so far. all the secrecy, abruptness, protection of privacy, etc. hope that's where the similarity ends.

and i agree with TLEF that Duke does not get better any time soon.

 
And Urak, for YEARS I've watched tons of people say "Dook" on these boards and that's acceptable. No one says a word. And that's fine, big deal right? But yet when I do the equivalent saying uncheat, its just dumb-assed awful. Its the double standard I just don't get. :shrug: Anyway, looking forward to hopefully a good game tonight.
this is literally the first usage of the term "Dook" in this thread. There have been 4 uses of "UNCheat". All 5 instances are by the same poster.

ETA: just searched in the 2014 ACC thread. Again, exactly one usage of "Dook" and again, it was by you to complain about others.

 
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Go to the free for all forum and search on Dook and then you can come back and discuss if you'd like...

 
I still hold out hope.

If refs call this game fair...Okafor will dominate.

We'll need someone to make baskets from the outside...so I'm hoping Cook and Jones step up in that regard

I think Duke wins this...in fact, I think Duke runs out to a quick lead.

 
Who gives a damn about someone saying Dook?

There's a freaking circle jerk of the same old jackals in that NCAA thread all getting their jollies over clowning Coach K.

Just let it go...haters gonna hate...

 
not worried about Duke's offense, especially if Winslow can get back to form.

like last year, i'm worried about defense.

 
not worried about Duke's offense, especially if Winslow can get back to form.

like last year, i'm worried about defense.
Same here...I always am...penetrating guards and big men have alway been a thorn in Duke's defense.

I think they'll have to pack it in and dare UVA to shoot over them...

I think Sheed leaving will help bring the team together.

Of course, I acknowledge it has the potential to pull the thread on the seams that they are held together by...but I think they rally.

Backs against the wall...time to dig in and fight.

This game will tell us about the character of this team.

 
Fwiw, I think Dukes D can be better without Sulaimon. His offensive game gave the other team a bunch of easy attempts in the other end through TOs and just bad spacing for transposition am defense. Must have been 3-5 times a game he'd do something boneheaded on offense that lead to poor defensive sets.

 
Nice win for State to break the streak. Barber was incredible: 45 minutes, 9/12 from the floor including 4/5 on 3 pointers, 1/1 from the line, 7 assists, 2 steals, 3 rebounds, and just 1 turnover. I hope this is him turning the corner.

:wolf:

 
Cook and then Jones with the outside shooting late in the game to bring Duke back and seal it.

Exactly what I was hoping for...

Okafor seems to be getting better at recognizing the double teams but I wished he'd pass out a bit quicker at times...but hard to knock a guy for being aggressive and going for it when he gets the ball. Been a long time since we had a center with that kind of aggression.

 
I was ready to readjust expectations for Duke but damn that was impressive. Duke's defense is still a bit concerning but didn't miss Sulaimon that much. Season will hinge on Winslow and/or Jones. One of them needs to step up.

 
Cook and then Jones with the outside shooting late in the game to bring Duke back and seal it.

Exactly what I was hoping for...

Okafor seems to be getting better at recognizing the double teams but I wished he'd pass out a bit quicker at times...but hard to knock a guy for being aggressive and going for it when he gets the ball. Been a long time since we had a center with that kind of aggression.
That's exactly right, especially considering he's just a kid. I'd take his "mistakes" over almost anyone's passiveness.

 
Sigh. Always a ####ty day when UNC loses/gives away a game they have and Duke wins a game they shouldn't.

Drinking commencing.

 
So freaking proud of this team. You know this was a hard week for them too. K clearly still knows how to rally the troops and I was very impressed with UVA. That is a hell of a team we just beat. And for anyone counting, 3 road wins against top 10 teams.

 
Wow, didn't expect that. Always glad to be wrong in projecting Duke losing. Good to see that the zone is still in use, because boy, is it needed.

 
Duke is going to play zone from here on out I think. And I love how he switched it up in the second half. Whoever said K can't make in game adjustments clearly doesn't know much. His game plan today was fantastic. Attack attack attack in transition and boy it worked.

Toughest part of the schedule is over. 6 more home games and only 4 more road games. Unless something crazy happens, I think this win should lock them in for a #1 seed.

 
And what a difference a healthy Winslow makes. I guess his ribs and shoulder are much better now. He and Jones were huge, and of course Cook too. That had to be Jah's worst game of the season, and we still won, on the road, at UVA. What a win!!!

 
Duke is going to play zone from here on out I think. And I love how he switched it up in the second half. Whoever said K can't make in game adjustments clearly doesn't know much. His game plan today was fantastic. Attack attack attack in transition and boy it worked.

Toughest part of the schedule is over. 6 more home games and only 4 more road games. Unless something crazy happens, I think this win should lock them in for a #1 seed.
There's a long way to go. The real key is getting four of the last six at home. But both UNC games will be tough and I'm sure the Notre Dame rematch could pose a challenge too.

 
Duke is going to play zone from here on out I think. And I love how he switched it up in the second half. Whoever said K can't make in game adjustments clearly doesn't know much. His game plan today was fantastic. Attack attack attack in transition and boy it worked.

Toughest part of the schedule is over. 6 more home games and only 4 more road games. Unless something crazy happens, I think this win should lock them in for a #1 seed.
There's a long way to go. The real key is getting four of the last six at home. But both UNC games will be tough and I'm sure the Notre Dame rematch could pose a challenge too.
Definitely...ND is just a tough matchup...but I think we'll win it.

Probably split with UNC...but I hope for a sweep.

 
I don't see Duke going complete zone. Aren't good or long enough. They will just switch and go with what works. 3-2 2-3 and man to man.

 
Well K is definitely changing on the fly. I like when he does that. He's definitely still got it. Not saying 10-0 is a slam dunk by any means, but when the core of your team is freshman, and they seem to be getting better, its a pretty good sign. And I'm not sure removing Sheed is going to hurt us as much as most thought. If he was a problem behind the scenes as I've been told, it could be one of those addition by subtraction deals. Team definitely seems together. All the post game quotes were all about that.

 
I don't see Duke going complete zone. Aren't good or long enough. They will just switch and go with what works. 3-2 2-3 and man to man.
Oh, I didn't mean to suggest that a K team would ever play 40 minutes of zone. Sprinkling it in for key stretches of the game is so obvious a strategy for teams like this one, and so much of a sea change for him, that I'm thrilled to see it played that much.

 

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