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SaintsInDome2006
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How are locals or Packer fans evaluating the 3-6 WR positions? After Cobb and Adams, who do you see having FF value as a WR3-4 at least in 2015?
White, Janis, Montgomery, Abbrederis?
Would Janis perhaps be worth drafting in redraft above the others? Thanks.
White, Janis, Montgomery, Abbrederis?
Would Janis perhaps be worth drafting in redraft above the others? Thanks.
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Meatwad Reloaded
Footballguy
I thought all the wrs looked really good last night. Unfortunately, I think Abby might be done.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
In order: Montgomery, Janis, White
Abbrederis will be IR'd, cut or on practice squad
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Are Packer fans or locals actually taking a flyer on Montgomery or Janis late?
It seems to me to be a major opening for targets in the best passing game in the league.
Meatwad Reloaded
Footballguy
I would take one of those guys as a late round flyer for sure. Like 15th or 16th round late. It also depends on how big your league is. In a ten teamer, I don't know...14 - 16 teams? I would make either one a target. One of them is going to get some solid burn as long as Rodgers stays upright.
The Kerminator
Footballguy
I'd keep an eye on either Boykin on Carolina or James Jones on the Giants. If either gets cut I can see the Packers bringing them in. Would think they have more value as the 3rd WR than one of the young guys.
duaneok66
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
Agreed...Janis with a lot of upside as I have heard he is more of a fit for the Jordy role than anyone else. Just so inconsistent right now.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Right now, I like Montgomery. There were so many comparisons to Cobb...and if Cobb is out a bit...or sliding outside more to try and cover up not having Nelson, I could see him being a nice play at times.
sho nuff
Footballguy
As for last night...what a mess.
Why even have Cobb out there? Plus Bulaga and Matthews.
Even with that...the #1 D was torched yes...coverage was bad and that is the big concern. Im not as concerned as some. Seemed they went very vanilla, were put into bad field position by Hundley's early struggles and poor special teams. And if you play vanilla against Kelly, they will kill you.
Special teams is a huge concern. Was bad last year, and looked awful last night. And it won't get any better with all of the injuries piling up. You end up with guys who may not normally make the team being out there as special teamers.
I have no confidence in a return guy right now with both Montgomery and Janis not fielding the ball well. Can't risk Cobb...and Hyde is dinged now too.
#1 priority...get the Oline and Cobb healthy.
Why even have Cobb out there? Plus Bulaga and Matthews.
Even with that...the #1 D was torched yes...coverage was bad and that is the big concern. Im not as concerned as some. Seemed they went very vanilla, were put into bad field position by Hundley's early struggles and poor special teams. And if you play vanilla against Kelly, they will kill you.
Special teams is a huge concern. Was bad last year, and looked awful last night. And it won't get any better with all of the injuries piling up. You end up with guys who may not normally make the team being out there as special teamers.
I have no confidence in a return guy right now with both Montgomery and Janis not fielding the ball well. Can't risk Cobb...and Hyde is dinged now too.
#1 priority...get the Oline and Cobb healthy.
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The Kerminator
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Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 1m1 minute ago
After his MRI, #Packers WR Randall Cobb has an AC joint sprain, source said. It’s minor. No word on Week 1, but could have been much worse
After his MRI, #Packers WR Randall Cobb has an AC joint sprain, source said. It’s minor. No word on Week 1, but could have been much worse
trader jake
Footballguy
Exhibition Game 4
Pros:
- Brett Hundley looks like a hit as a 5th round QB selection. We'll see how much progress he makes over the next 12 months but if he shows anything more he'll be the back-up at this time next year
- The wideouts took a hit losing Jordy Nelson but if everyone stays healthy I like the depth behind Cobb & Adams.
- Jayrone Elliott seems to be more than just a one-year curiosity. Not sure he's anything but roster depth yet but he's earned a chance to get a few more snaps than last season.
- Really like Ripkowski on special teams, that kid is a hustler.
- Mason Crosby is booming his field goals and has been outstanding controlling the directional aspect on kickoffs. McCarthy even felt good enough to let him attempt a 66 yarder, he must be killin' it in practice too.
- Can't say I noticed the new offensive play caller effecting the pace of the offense in these exhibition games. Seemed to be a good flow with minimal problems. Considering how long McCarthy has controlled that aspect of the offense, that has to count for something.
Cons:
- Damarious Randall has a lot of talent but his technique needs some refinement. If he's forced into extensive action early, we may see him get picked on a bit.
- Abbrederris is a nice story but I'm not sure he's much more than a practice squad guy.
- After Lacy & Starks I'm not positive there is another NFL caliber RB currently on the roster. There's been a lot of hype around RB Rajion Neal but he's just a guy. If forced to keep a 3rd RB currently on the roster, I'd keep John Crockett around.
- A.J. Hawk is now a Bengal but his legacy of linebackers being unable to cover the backs or tight ends in the open field continues. Next year the Packers need to invest in a real inside linebacker. The starters have issues and the back-ups are bottom of the barrel NFL players.
- Through 4 exhibition games the special teams looked every bit as crappy as they did last season. Doesn't seem like Ron Zook has had an impact.
Pros:
- Brett Hundley looks like a hit as a 5th round QB selection. We'll see how much progress he makes over the next 12 months but if he shows anything more he'll be the back-up at this time next year
- The wideouts took a hit losing Jordy Nelson but if everyone stays healthy I like the depth behind Cobb & Adams.
- Jayrone Elliott seems to be more than just a one-year curiosity. Not sure he's anything but roster depth yet but he's earned a chance to get a few more snaps than last season.
- Really like Ripkowski on special teams, that kid is a hustler.
- Mason Crosby is booming his field goals and has been outstanding controlling the directional aspect on kickoffs. McCarthy even felt good enough to let him attempt a 66 yarder, he must be killin' it in practice too.
- Can't say I noticed the new offensive play caller effecting the pace of the offense in these exhibition games. Seemed to be a good flow with minimal problems. Considering how long McCarthy has controlled that aspect of the offense, that has to count for something.
Cons:
- Damarious Randall has a lot of talent but his technique needs some refinement. If he's forced into extensive action early, we may see him get picked on a bit.
- Abbrederris is a nice story but I'm not sure he's much more than a practice squad guy.
- After Lacy & Starks I'm not positive there is another NFL caliber RB currently on the roster. There's been a lot of hype around RB Rajion Neal but he's just a guy. If forced to keep a 3rd RB currently on the roster, I'd keep John Crockett around.
- A.J. Hawk is now a Bengal but his legacy of linebackers being unable to cover the backs or tight ends in the open field continues. Next year the Packers need to invest in a real inside linebacker. The starters have issues and the back-ups are bottom of the barrel NFL players.
- Through 4 exhibition games the special teams looked every bit as crappy as they did last season. Doesn't seem like Ron Zook has had an impact.
jurrassic
Footballguy
Janis is still raw and apparently not as dedicated to learning the playbook as the Packers would like, but he will have an impact this year. I wouldn't be surprised at all if his receptions are limited to 35-40 but he scores 6-7 tds as part of several red zone packages. If you project Cobb to remain at around 90 receptions. Adams to get around 70, Montgomery with 35 and Janis with 35 that equates to roughly the same total as last year with Nelson in the lineup and Lacy and the tight end position (assume Rodgers takes #1 spot from Quarless) matching their totals.
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Meatwad Reloaded
Footballguy
Quarless was just on Jimmy Fallon. He said he won the starting job outright, so pick him in the 4th or 5th with confidence. He told a really funny story about that gun indecent too.
I don't agree with this at all. Rajon looked fantastic tonight and he could be the primary kick returner this year. Vic has been talking him up lately and the announcers said he could be the starter on a few other teams.
sho nuff
Footballguy
I disagree on Rajon Neal...I think they will keep him and he has talent.
And they will cut 2 decent backs behind him.
Abbrederris has talent (at least between the ears)...just the body not holding up hurts.
I would love his work ethic and mind put into Janis or White's body.
Janis looked good tonight and White did well with Hundley.
And they will cut 2 decent backs behind him.
Abbrederris has talent (at least between the ears)...just the body not holding up hurts.
I would love his work ethic and mind put into Janis or White's body.
Janis looked good tonight and White did well with Hundley.
⚡DEADHEAD⚡
Footballguy
True that Quarless is starter ahead of **** Rodgers?
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Dom Capers is the only thing holding this team back. Too bad they didn't dump his ###.
sharptongued1
Footballguy
- Hundley pick was my favorite Packers selection in this draft.
- Was disappointed McCarthy decided to stay in house to replace Slocum with an equally inept Zook. Wanted them to make a play for Brad Seely or Bobby April.
trader jake
Footballguy
Capers is okay, but his complex scheme best run by experienced players doesn't really mesh well with the Packers continuously having rookies and second year players getting a ton of snaps.
trader jake
Footballguy
Agreed...and Bobby April would have been awesome. That guy shows more life during special teams plays than the Packers players have the last few years.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Wasn't Julius Pepper, the most experienced player on the team, the one who told Morgan Burnett to slide?
Underachievers
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
Yeah...guy with a club....can they IR designated to return...and then try to pick Neal or Crockett back up?
There's no way Neal goes unclaimed. With what he showed in kick returns and the running game he will be picked up by a RB needy team.
Snoopy
Footballguy
The Claymaker
Footballguy
I read James Jones is on his way to GB.
Actually I see he's already in GB with his agent.
Actually I see he's already in GB with his agent.
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Sabertooth
Footballguy
That would be a smart signing.
The Claymaker
Footballguy
Anything to keep the current back up wr'ers off the field will be a good signing. Although I admit I never truly cared about losing Jones as he has dropped many a perfect pass, and that one in Philly in the playoffs was the worst. I hated him for a long time after that, just cause it almost cost us a playoff game.
imjackdupp
Footballguy
I don't see it making him irrelevant. Jones will likely see some redzone targets but I think he'd do his best work out of the slot and I'm pretty sure that spot is filled. I think it was a good pickup but most likely a depth add. I could be completely wrong but I just dont see them relying on him as a huge contributor unless somebody ends up in the doghouse.
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Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
I don't see him fitting in the slot role at all. He rarely (ever?) played slot in GB when he was younger, and a slot role requires quickness more than pure speed. Jones doesn't have the same level of quickness he used to....and he wasn't that quick to start with.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
They should have signed Greg Jennings.
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
Consensus in packer nation is Thornton was a turd. Odd that Belichick signed him after seeing him in preseason. I wonder if this is a guy that says all the right things but doesnt show up, or if he just got hosed due to the 2014 injury.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Because he's a bum.
Jack White
Footballguy
Polish Hammer
made of glass
Thoughts on what JJ signing means for D Adams?
The Claymaker
Footballguy
Jones will play outside like he always has, I think Adams will remain #2 but I certainly think Jones makes the situation more murky after Cobb. If it had been Montgomery or Janis I think Adams would have been more clear cut, but since Rodgers has a history with Jones and they actually posted decent numbers together, Adams / Jones will be closer than Adams / Janis or Montgomery and that is with good reason.
I think this actually helps Montgomery as I think he will be used in a hybrid RB/WR role which is much more to his skill set. He is not a downfield wr'er he is an out of the backfield, swing pass, dump off and make a guy miss type guy and this takes pressure off him to be more than he is.
I think this actually helps Montgomery as I think he will be used in a hybrid RB/WR role which is much more to his skill set. He is not a downfield wr'er he is an out of the backfield, swing pass, dump off and make a guy miss type guy and this takes pressure off him to be more than he is.
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Houston turmOiler
Footballguy
This actually makes a ton of sense....
Any thoughts how this might affect the TEs, namely Richard Rodgers (who I took a late round flyer on but there are a couple other interesting FAs). And, more importantly, will he give Jones back his number 89?
sharptongued1
Footballguy
Snoopy
Footballguy
I detected sarcasm there as Jennings burned his bridges with the Packers after signing with the Vikings.
The Kerminator
Footballguy
Chicago Hooligan
Footballguy
They may have similar traits they are looking for in interior DL as Jerel Worthy (garbage) cycled through both teams and they drafted the underperforming Raji/Brace duo between them.
Also, it's probably been a few months so let me repeat that I'll always be mad about Henry Anderson going one spot before GB's pick. Anderson is probably DROY.
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