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2017 New York Jets: Robby Anderson has been arrested in Florida for the second straight offseason. This is why we can't have nice things. (1 Viewer)
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Well they added two potentially playmakers at WR so that should only help Petty and Hack once they get their chance.
They finally addressed TE but they took a guy nicknamed "Lazy Leggett" due to his poor work ethic. At least they have Sefarin-Jenkins who can take this kid under his wing and teach him how to get the most out of his talents.
They finally addressed TE but they took a guy nicknamed "Lazy Leggett" due to his poor work ethic. At least they have Sefarin-Jenkins who can take this kid under his wing and teach him how to get the most out of his talents.
Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
More room for the new receivers. Devin Smith is out for the season with a torn ACL.
One injury after another for this guy, it seems.
One injury after another for this guy, it seems.
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NYRAGE
Footballguy
Smith is done before he basically ever started.
I don't hate our draft. I understand the reasoning for wanting clean good guys in the locker room after last year's debacle, but Cook with our second pick would have been exciting (for better or worse). Not sure how Cook would have responded in NYC, but it would have been nice to add a true offensive weapon.
The WRs helped a bit. It was nice to finally get a decent TE. Hopefully he isn't lazy in the Pros. I wonder if they were hoping to get Butt in the 5th. Did they get cute?
Not sure about Donahue. Hopefully the RB helps out as the #3 that we desperately need.
The CBs are developmental. Interesting that we passed on them early. For a draft loaded with CBs and allegedly edge rushers, I'm surprised we passed on them for the most part. I wonder if they were trying to trade up for King or Cam Robinson in the second round because they traded right after they were picked.
Glad we passed on QB.Let Hack play and draft one in the first next season.
I don't hate our draft. I understand the reasoning for wanting clean good guys in the locker room after last year's debacle, but Cook with our second pick would have been exciting (for better or worse). Not sure how Cook would have responded in NYC, but it would have been nice to add a true offensive weapon.
The WRs helped a bit. It was nice to finally get a decent TE. Hopefully he isn't lazy in the Pros. I wonder if they were hoping to get Butt in the 5th. Did they get cute?
Not sure about Donahue. Hopefully the RB helps out as the #3 that we desperately need.
The CBs are developmental. Interesting that we passed on them early. For a draft loaded with CBs and allegedly edge rushers, I'm surprised we passed on them for the most part. I wonder if they were trying to trade up for King or Cam Robinson in the second round because they traded right after they were picked.
Glad we passed on QB.Let Hack play and draft one in the first next season.
Reaper
Footballguy
I'm fine with the 2 Safeties - Bottom line - No matter what position and hole they are trying to fill, they need to Nail the pick..... Team has holes everywhere - fill them and let Bowles either thrive or go down with 2 leaders at the 1 position he should excel at
Glad they're not trying to groom another young QB in this mix... See what you got - No room to sit another guy right now.
I'm also not a fan of drafting a RB high when you're 2-3 years away from competing anyway with RB Shelf life and so many that can hold the fort...
Concern is with Macc running a Draft - Someone gotta get that guy a Trade Value Chart - If I'm a GM on another team I certainly call Macc often.
With Sheldon, I'm surprised no team takes a flyer - especially 1 ready to make a run and can use him for 1 year to see,
I yelled about getting rid of the guy the night of his Car race with Drugs and Kid but, still, I'd give him fresh start on a new team - I think some team is going to eventually get a stud with a huge chip once he's moved... I'd take him If I'm an AFC East team and watch him take out his frustrations on the jets
Another situation GM Macc probably screwed - supposedly there were higher offers last year
I'm OK with this draft b/c I don't see a Project QB they over paid for and I don't see any OMG WTF WHO IS THAT GUY picks....with a very low bar, I'm OK
But, lotta red flags adding up for Macc the GM on running a draft, Roster mgt, Sheldon, Caving in to Mo.. Caving in to Fitz and announcing him the starter when he was a FA in January..... Spending as if he had a Win Now team and WASTING TWO YEARS!!!!!!!
These Safeties Better be Ed Reed and Rod Woodson.....lol. They better be the Foundation of a real good Defense..
Macc is one more Draft Bust / Bad deal away from Billboards or at least deserving of it More than Idzik was..
GOOD TIMES - TANK AWAY!!!!!
Glad they're not trying to groom another young QB in this mix... See what you got - No room to sit another guy right now.
I'm also not a fan of drafting a RB high when you're 2-3 years away from competing anyway with RB Shelf life and so many that can hold the fort...
Concern is with Macc running a Draft - Someone gotta get that guy a Trade Value Chart - If I'm a GM on another team I certainly call Macc often.
With Sheldon, I'm surprised no team takes a flyer - especially 1 ready to make a run and can use him for 1 year to see,
I yelled about getting rid of the guy the night of his Car race with Drugs and Kid but, still, I'd give him fresh start on a new team - I think some team is going to eventually get a stud with a huge chip once he's moved... I'd take him If I'm an AFC East team and watch him take out his frustrations on the jets
Another situation GM Macc probably screwed - supposedly there were higher offers last year
I'm OK with this draft b/c I don't see a Project QB they over paid for and I don't see any OMG WTF WHO IS THAT GUY picks....with a very low bar, I'm OK
But, lotta red flags adding up for Macc the GM on running a draft, Roster mgt, Sheldon, Caving in to Mo.. Caving in to Fitz and announcing him the starter when he was a FA in January..... Spending as if he had a Win Now team and WASTING TWO YEARS!!!!!!!
These Safeties Better be Ed Reed and Rod Woodson.....lol. They better be the Foundation of a real good Defense..
Macc is one more Draft Bust / Bad deal away from Billboards or at least deserving of it More than Idzik was..
GOOD TIMES - TANK AWAY!!!!!
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Kiddnets
Footballguy
Crazy draft weekend - as Ive been posting I wanted offense in the 1st rd bad but even I was cheering for them to grab Adams as he fell so can't knock them there....some thoughts:
1st rd - Adams - Love the pick - new defensive anchor and face of the team...Leo Williams the sequel....hope we've seen the end of those 30 yd wide open plays on 3rd and 25....also give some hits like Pryor was supposed to do....
2d rd - Mayes - On its face Im not a fan of grabbing safeties back to back...but if this was a clear BPA I dont think at this point the JEts have the luxury of drafting for need...they need players and Id rather double up on a position then spread the wealth I suppose.....next year wont be intentional tank but between 1st yr QB taking over at some point and 2 rookie safeties its going ot be a learning year with lots of losses
3rd - Stewart - Big time program and produced - film Ive seen shows a tough YAC runner and has a knack for big plays which is needed....I can see him teaming with Enuwa for a nice 1-2 punch.
trade downs begin - rather than hit each trade let me just say im n agreement with the above - I like trading down but Mac received awful value each time he did....I believe he came up short on the value chart almost on every deal....at some point a crap shoot draft as it is becomes long shots as 5th -6th rders are longshots vs 3rd 4th.....so I did not like piling on the later picks....hopefully the extra lotto tix pan out but just have visions of Idzik's pile of picks out of the league....
4th - Hansen - was perplexed on this double up but with Smith's continuation of 2d rd busts it makes sense....kid looks like a playmaker on film and heard lots of good things from posters that watched him a lot at Cal....
5th rder -7th rders - crapshoot - not a big fan of taking a Div II kid in the 5th rd but I trust Kevin Greene had something to do with it.....the 2 CBs are interchangeable - tall with skills...maybe one hits....no idea on the RB
So all in all I expect Adams to start day 1 with Mayes worked in and a starter by mid year.....Stewart to be worked in as well eventually starting....I can see Hansen as the heir to Decker....probably worked in as a 3rd down specialist....best case on the late picks - maybe the OLB becomes a pass rush specialist and 1 of the 2 CBs work their way to being a #3 this year and start next year.....RB special teams.
A bit surprised Mac ignored the OL completely....Once he passed on QB in the 1st 2 rds I knew this is make or break yr for Hack/Petty and Im ok with that....If this draft upgraded the DBs and WRs....they have a ton of dough next year to hit OL and LB....then draft offense next season with QB (assuming Hack/Petty are not the answer) and playmaking RB. If it breaks this way Jets could make a nice 2018 turn around....as for 2017 though get ready for a stinker.....just hope if they do stink they suck bad enough for top pick and no more of this just enough meaningless wins to grab #5-8 picks.
1st rd - Adams - Love the pick - new defensive anchor and face of the team...Leo Williams the sequel....hope we've seen the end of those 30 yd wide open plays on 3rd and 25....also give some hits like Pryor was supposed to do....
2d rd - Mayes - On its face Im not a fan of grabbing safeties back to back...but if this was a clear BPA I dont think at this point the JEts have the luxury of drafting for need...they need players and Id rather double up on a position then spread the wealth I suppose.....next year wont be intentional tank but between 1st yr QB taking over at some point and 2 rookie safeties its going ot be a learning year with lots of losses
3rd - Stewart - Big time program and produced - film Ive seen shows a tough YAC runner and has a knack for big plays which is needed....I can see him teaming with Enuwa for a nice 1-2 punch.
trade downs begin - rather than hit each trade let me just say im n agreement with the above - I like trading down but Mac received awful value each time he did....I believe he came up short on the value chart almost on every deal....at some point a crap shoot draft as it is becomes long shots as 5th -6th rders are longshots vs 3rd 4th.....so I did not like piling on the later picks....hopefully the extra lotto tix pan out but just have visions of Idzik's pile of picks out of the league....
4th - Hansen - was perplexed on this double up but with Smith's continuation of 2d rd busts it makes sense....kid looks like a playmaker on film and heard lots of good things from posters that watched him a lot at Cal....
5th rder -7th rders - crapshoot - not a big fan of taking a Div II kid in the 5th rd but I trust Kevin Greene had something to do with it.....the 2 CBs are interchangeable - tall with skills...maybe one hits....no idea on the RB
So all in all I expect Adams to start day 1 with Mayes worked in and a starter by mid year.....Stewart to be worked in as well eventually starting....I can see Hansen as the heir to Decker....probably worked in as a 3rd down specialist....best case on the late picks - maybe the OLB becomes a pass rush specialist and 1 of the 2 CBs work their way to being a #3 this year and start next year.....RB special teams.
A bit surprised Mac ignored the OL completely....Once he passed on QB in the 1st 2 rds I knew this is make or break yr for Hack/Petty and Im ok with that....If this draft upgraded the DBs and WRs....they have a ton of dough next year to hit OL and LB....then draft offense next season with QB (assuming Hack/Petty are not the answer) and playmaking RB. If it breaks this way Jets could make a nice 2018 turn around....as for 2017 though get ready for a stinker.....just hope if they do stink they suck bad enough for top pick and no more of this just enough meaningless wins to grab #5-8 picks.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
As I was mulling the apathy that is the Jets 2017 season - I took a look at over the cap page on the Jets and received a nice dose of optimism....
2018 cap space is $61.5M (thats without the rooks just drafted so figure closer to $54M) - thats a lot of dough right there.....but looking at the additional cap savings with potential cuts:
Decker $6M
Skrine $3.5
Gilchrist $4.5
McCluaden $2.5
Forte $2
Thats another $18M added - figure another $8M to the draft next year and its about $64M to spend.....that's a ton of $ to upgrade the talent level. I hate to root for tanking a season but it really would be the best thing for the long term success of the Jets....get another high draft pick - Brady in 2018 would be getting close to the end as the Jets begin their ascent.
I understand coaches/GMs are not going to tank per se...but they dont have to....2017 should be about letting all the kids play and develop....no more loyalty to older/vet players....every gameplaye in/ won by McCown is a complete waste. let the guy mentor Petty/Hack but the kids have to play....if the kids look good and run off some wins I personally would be ok with that rather than trying to eek out meaningless wins with McCown....I see Bowles has not named a starter yet so thats good...
heres hoping for a developing 2017 with an eye on 2018....its gonna be a rough season but hope is alive!
2018 cap space is $61.5M (thats without the rooks just drafted so figure closer to $54M) - thats a lot of dough right there.....but looking at the additional cap savings with potential cuts:
Decker $6M
Skrine $3.5
Gilchrist $4.5
McCluaden $2.5
Forte $2
Thats another $18M added - figure another $8M to the draft next year and its about $64M to spend.....that's a ton of $ to upgrade the talent level. I hate to root for tanking a season but it really would be the best thing for the long term success of the Jets....get another high draft pick - Brady in 2018 would be getting close to the end as the Jets begin their ascent.
I understand coaches/GMs are not going to tank per se...but they dont have to....2017 should be about letting all the kids play and develop....no more loyalty to older/vet players....every gameplaye in/ won by McCown is a complete waste. let the guy mentor Petty/Hack but the kids have to play....if the kids look good and run off some wins I personally would be ok with that rather than trying to eek out meaningless wins with McCown....I see Bowles has not named a starter yet so thats good...
heres hoping for a developing 2017 with an eye on 2018....its gonna be a rough season but hope is alive!
Kiddnets
Footballguy
interesting interview with Woody yesterday - he admitted total rebuild and said it was the first time they are not taking shortcuts in his entire tenure....also admitted QB is key....this gave me some hope...maybe the days of Favre, Tebow, Fitz and other "get good quick" big splashes are a thing of the past....Also seems like he is giving the mgt/team and coach a lot of rope as long as the kids progress....Im not a Bowles fan but I do think its unfair to have a playoff mandate this year....with that out there hopefully Bowles is comfortable playing the kids this yr instead of wasting time with McCown and the older vets.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I'm ok with McCown starting the season just to get the offense going and evaluate the WRs a little, but if he's not injured by Week 5 then whoever won the backup QB between Petty and Hack should be out there and I'd like to see the other get some starts as well.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
Good call. I started to vehemently disagree with McCown at all if you're full rebuild, but getting the line and protections right before putting the young guy in there is sensible, and good point about getting looks at the WR. If Decker is ever healthy they should trade him to a contender and just let all the young WR/TE soak up reps. They have some nice base talent so the faster they can get them experience the better.
NYRAGE
Footballguy
I don't know. Woody once said that we should build through the draft and then the next season went out and spent like a drunk sailor. What else could he say about this upcoming season? We didn't have the cap space to spend this season and we weren't going to win with last year's team.
I've lost all faith in this management. They had a chance to play some young guys last year, yet we saw Fitz get a million chances and several veterans mail it in with no loss in playing time.
These dopes will lose all year long unintentionally due to a lack of talent and bad coaching, but then win some game at the end of the season to hurt our draft spot and a chance to land a top QB. It's almost written in stone.
rockaction
Footballguy
Kiddnets
Footballguy
I cant argue with the Woody comment - he's been a big splash owner his entire tenure...let's see if the sting of Revis sticks and he stays with the rebuild plan when they have a ton of $ next offseason.
The only way they get a top 3 pick to grab a QB is to start Hack/Petty and they are awful.....the rest of the team has talent - not playoff talent but enough talent to win 3-6 games and end up with a 6-210 pick rather than top 3.....thats why its a no brainer to go with the kids....they either develop and you have your QB or they flop and you should be able to grab a top pick. '
If McNown starts any games it would be a complete and utter stupid decision contrary to the long term success of the franchise....which is why I fully expect him starting under center week 1.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Even by starting mccown...3 wins tops
NYRAGE
Footballguy
Based on what we have seen these past couple of years, I don't think there should be much doubt that McCown will start. How long is the key. He always gets hurt, but if he doesn't get hurt, I see Bowles sticking with him for at least 6 games. There is potentially 3 winnable games in there plus he won't want Hack to start against NE. I don't think the coaching staff is too crazy about Petty either. He's probably a back-up at best in their eyes.
TLEF316
Footballguy
It still feels like there's a little too much talent on defense for the Jets to be truly #1 pick bad. Williams is a stud, I think Wilkerson will bounce back and I expect Richardson to play hard with his next contract/situation on the line. The cornerback situation is up in the air and the safeties will obviously be very green but I just think they'll do JUST enough to win like 5 games with McCown under center (which will happen because the franchise is stupid)
NYRAGE
Footballguy
Pryor should have been at OTAs. The guy is a loser.
Sheldon had to open his mouth about Marshall. The guy will never learn. Toilet Bowles should talk to him. Maybe Adams should be player and coach since we have no leadership in management. At least Morton seemed vocal.
We need to continue to purge the bad apples and losers.
Sheldon had to open his mouth about Marshall. The guy will never learn. Toilet Bowles should talk to him. Maybe Adams should be player and coach since we have no leadership in management. At least Morton seemed vocal.
We need to continue to purge the bad apples and losers.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Like I said, I'd be ok with McCown starting off the season since the whole offense will be learning a new system and they will need to get the line protections and routes down to the point where you can truly evaluate the young QBs. I also think we need to evaluate all the first and second year WRs/TEs on the team to see if they will be enough for a young QB to succeed down the road and if Petty/Hack are throwing the ball into the ground or over their heads what can we really learn?.
Obviously I am only talking 5 games max before we make the switch, but honestly McCown will probably get injured before that anyway. I think the defense will be solid, but overall this team is too young to win that many games even with a decent stopgap QB like McCown (and he's capable of losing games with dumb decisions as well). Their CBs and LBers are still big question marks - they guys up front are excellent but they will not be able to generate enough of a consistent pass rush on their own without an edge OLB stepping up.
Obviously I am only talking 5 games max before we make the switch, but honestly McCown will probably get injured before that anyway. I think the defense will be solid, but overall this team is too young to win that many games even with a decent stopgap QB like McCown (and he's capable of losing games with dumb decisions as well). Their CBs and LBers are still big question marks - they guys up front are excellent but they will not be able to generate enough of a consistent pass rush on their own without an edge OLB stepping up.
Reaper
Footballguy
I mean the guy has a Career 18-42 Record... He's 2-20 in his last 3 years!!!!...
The perfect TANK QB...lol. Plus he's Old and White so by definition he's a smart mentor...
NYRAGE
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Crash Davis
Footballguy
Jets trade disappointing former 1st round pick Calvin Pryor to the Browns and get back ... disappointing, 4 years older, former Jets draft pick Demario Davis. 
With every move my faith in this regime grows weaker and weaker.
With every move my faith in this regime grows weaker and weaker.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I guess there was little chance that they could get more for a guy they were clearly going to release but I get your sentiment.Jets trade disappointing former 1st round pick Calvin Pryor to the Browns and get back ... disappointing, 4 years older, former Jets draft pick Demario Davis.
With every move my faith in this regime grows weaker and weaker.
NYRAGE
Footballguy
Pryor was garbage last year. I'm not sure what you guys think the going rate is for garbage. It doesn't matter what round he was picked.
Addition by subtraction. For a heavy hitter, he couldn't tackle. He always took bad angles, his coverage was horrific, and his attitude was suspect.
Addition by subtraction. For a heavy hitter, he couldn't tackle. He always took bad angles, his coverage was horrific, and his attitude was suspect.
TLEF316
Footballguy
This. His value was basically nil and they got SOMETHING in return. Davis may end up getting cut but whatever.
Fariq
Footballguy
I am outraged too. They should have traded him for Aaron Rodgers.Jets trade disappointing former 1st round pick Calvin Pryor to the Browns and get back ... disappointing, 4 years older, former Jets draft pick Demario Davis.
With every move my faith in this regime grows weaker and weaker.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
What a wasted pick in Pryor.....that Dixon was picked at the same position just a few picks later makes it hurt even more....I truly believe if Pryor had a good attitude and embraced the competition of the youngster he would be here.....he obviously didnt and agree to ship him out...the last thing they need is more locker room turmoil....Davis is limited but has no cap hit to cut and is a good locker room guy....I'm sure Mac tried to get anything but this is the best and better than a cut so Im ok with it....
some OTA comments:
Sheldon can't get out of here fast enough - he couldnt help but take a shot at Marshall....then compounds it by objecting to the DC saying he had something to prove by clarifying that he has nothing to prove, just needs numbers for his next contract.....I hope he starts off well and they can dump him by the deadline for a pick...he's the last guy you need in a rebuilding team
QB: I know some are ok with McNown starting but count me out...every snap he takes is experience that should go tot he kids....what if he looks decent and keeps them on the fringe of a playoff berth..it will be a wasted season with an old QB and they've been down that road before!
some OTA comments:
Sheldon can't get out of here fast enough - he couldnt help but take a shot at Marshall....then compounds it by objecting to the DC saying he had something to prove by clarifying that he has nothing to prove, just needs numbers for his next contract.....I hope he starts off well and they can dump him by the deadline for a pick...he's the last guy you need in a rebuilding team
QB: I know some are ok with McNown starting but count me out...every snap he takes is experience that should go tot he kids....what if he looks decent and keeps them on the fringe of a playoff berth..it will be a wasted season with an old QB and they've been down that road before!
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Of course I've seen some really bogus headlines on this incident that said "two Jet players fight at a festival". Meanwhile when you watch the video all you see is Williams being smart and a good friend/teammate stepping in between Lee and a potential disaster. He only puts hands on Lee to get him out of the situation (and basically shows how big and strong he is by carrying Lee around like he's a doll). The Williams pick was a steal at the time and now he's showing some leadership off the field. Great job, Leonard!kodycutter said:
Hedgehog
Footballguy
Didnt see this move coming but makes sense with them picking up Demario - saves $ and gets younger. interesting they both have the same limitation in not being able to cover. Harris was a very good Jet and the best 2d rd pick in a swamp of busts. wish him well.
Jets released ILB David Harris.
The move wipes Harris' entire $6.5 million salary off the books. It comes five days after the Jets reacquired ILB Demario Davis from the Browns. Now 33, Harris has lost a step, but hasn't yet gone off the cliff. A 10-year veteran, Harris had been a starter for the Jets since his rookie year in 2007, making him the longest-tenured member of Gang Green. The Jets are gutting the AFC's worst roster.
Jets released ILB David Harris.
The move wipes Harris' entire $6.5 million salary off the books. It comes five days after the Jets reacquired ILB Demario Davis from the Browns. Now 33, Harris has lost a step, but hasn't yet gone off the cliff. A 10-year veteran, Harris had been a starter for the Jets since his rookie year in 2007, making him the longest-tenured member of Gang Green. The Jets are gutting the AFC's worst roster.
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NYRAGE
Footballguy
Well...he was a very good player in his Jets career, but he was too slow now and they weren't going to re-sign him after this season. Might as well prep for the future, but I doubt Davis is it. So, I guess it's about saving money unless they integrate some young players. It gives Connor Harris a better chance of making the team.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
It's about saving money and evaluating younger guys. I saw an article that an ESPN analyst predicted an 0-16 season for the Jets. I did not read it, but I do see it moving closer and closer in that direction.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Honestly, they may as well let Decker go as well and take a better look at the young guys. They can carry the cap space over I believe.
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ex-ghost
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Kiddnets
Footballguy
wow - burning it down....Im on board! Hope they can get a conditional but with his injuries im expecting a cut....I thought they can roll over cap space into next season...but even if they cant Im ok with it...let the kids play! Now with all these cuts why start an old McCown????
ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Jets have informed Eric Decker he will be traded or released by the end of the week.
The Jets see the tanking 2016 Browns' 1-15 and hope to raise it to 0-16. This is a scorched-earth rebuild, one where as many parts as possible are being stripped away in hopes of getting younger, cheaper and better draft picks. Typically, when a player's release becomes preordained, they become impossible to trade, but there's a chance a Decker trade market develops. Now 30, Decker is one of the league's premier touchdown scorers when healthy. He's due $14.75 million over the next two seasons.
ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Jets have informed Eric Decker he will be traded or released by the end of the week.
The Jets see the tanking 2016 Browns' 1-15 and hope to raise it to 0-16. This is a scorched-earth rebuild, one where as many parts as possible are being stripped away in hopes of getting younger, cheaper and better draft picks. Typically, when a player's release becomes preordained, they become impossible to trade, but there's a chance a Decker trade market develops. Now 30, Decker is one of the league's premier touchdown scorers when healthy. He's due $14.75 million over the next two seasons.
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TLEF316
Footballguy
I'd really love to be a fly on the wall in Florham Park to find out who is driving this. They weren't going anywhere, so these are the right moves (Although I worry about a leadership void on defense with Harris gone. Who controls Richardson now or holds Wilkerson accountable if he loafs all season again?) but I would love to know who decided.
I just worry that this means Bowles is 100% safe. How can you fire a guy after you give him this group to coach?
I just worry that this means Bowles is 100% safe. How can you fire a guy after you give him this group to coach?
Kiddnets
Footballguy
My guess is Mac convinced Woody of the tear down approach....he was quoted as calling it an all out rebuild which is a first for back page Woody....it's 100% the right move...if all goes well they develop the kids this yr and either one of the young QBs take a big step fwd or they stink and can finally draft a franchise QB....they should be ready for a run just as Brady is hangin it up.
I think the defense will be ok - after throwing Lee around like a sack of flour Leo is the leader of the D now.....but great point on Bowles...does this give him a mulligan year? This team as set will be lucky to win 4 games....tough to judge the guy on that and I am NOT a fan.....I suppose he's safe as long as it isnt a complete $@#%@ show in the locker room and the kids develop.
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