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2018 Offseason Coaching Changes (1 Viewer)

The NFL needs more guys like Sean McVay, Doug Pederson, Kyle Shanahan and less of John Fox, Marvin Lewis and Hue Jackson. How do you let a hack like Kizer call a play? A QB sneak from the 2. :lmao: He really shouldn't even be in the NFL, let alone behind center. 

 
He also insists on kicking short FGs instead of going for it when playing against powerhouse offenses. A sure way to lose. 
And letting McKenzie return punts isn’t the worlds best decision at this point.  5 fumbles already. He might communicate to the specials teams coach that ball security is kind of important. 

 
BusterTBronco said:
Fire Vance Joseph now.  Oh, and Elway can fire himself, too, while he's at it.
I hadn't really noticed Vance much and don't want to read into mannerisms but he looked totally lost last night. Every time they went to him on the sidelines, it looked like he didn't know why his team was doing what it was doing. Wasn't angry, wasn't upset, just looked confused.

 
Please fire the clapping Ginger, 0-16 Rod and take Scott "can't make an adjustment" Linehan with you.

 
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I almost feel bad for McAdoo just twisting in the wind like this.
What I would LIKE to see (fantasy land here), is a new coach step in, put on the game film from the last 2 weeks, and start cutting defensive players based on their flag football mentality. Actually, scratch that reference... you would have to reach for a flag.

Teams that quit on their coach deserve a little "watch what you wish for" action IMO.

 
I hadn't really noticed Vance much and don't want to read into mannerisms but he looked totally lost last night. Every time they went to him on the sidelines, it looked like he didn't know why his team was doing what it was doing. Wasn't angry, wasn't upset, just looked confused.
:lmao:  with his mouth hanging open.

 
A statement from Giants ownership on Monday indicated Ben McAdoo will likely last the season as the team's head coach.

McAdoo's firing is inevitable, but the Tisch and Mara families sound committed to evaluating his performance at the end of the year, and not pulling the plug during it. "Ben McAdoo is our head coach and has our support. We are in the midst of an extremely disappointing season. Our performance this year, particularly the past two weeks, is inexcusable and frustrating," the statement reads. "... Our plan is to do what we have always done, which is to not offer a running commentary on the season. ... At the end of the year, we will evaluate the 2017 season in its entirety and make a determination on how we move forward."

Source: Adam Schefter on Facebook 

Nov 13 - 3:59 PM

 
I hadn't really noticed Vance much and don't want to read into mannerisms but he looked totally lost last night. Every time they went to him on the sidelines, it looked like he didn't know why his team was doing what it was doing. Wasn't angry, wasn't upset, just looked confused.
I think that's known as the Jim Caldwell.

 
Pretty sad that the Giants are holding onto McAdoo. Put him out of his misery. He looks like someone kicked his dog every game. Probably being the cheap asses most owners in the NFL are and hoping he resigns so they save some money.

 
What I would LIKE to see (fantasy land here), is a new coach step in, put on the game film from the last 2 weeks, and start cutting defensive players based on their flag football mentality. Actually, scratch that reference... you would have to reach for a flag.

Teams that quit on their coach deserve a little "watch what you wish for" action IMO.
Dolphins should do the same thing.  I don't recall ever seeing a team get pushed around so much without pushing back as Miami did last night.  Pathetic.

 
Again, can't imagine why some think O'Brien should be fired.
It's hard to see from the outside. And a lot of it is dependent of how much influence you think he has in the QB's they have acquired. Personally, based on his personality, I think he has a lot of influence. That is part of the reason I think he should go. Hoyer and Mallett are who they are and O"Brien was very familiar with them. And somehow he thought they would be good options to start. O'Brien had to be okay with bringing in Osweiler, and look at how bad he was. Finally Savage. They drafted him in O'Brien's first year and he has been in the system for 4 years. Every year they have brought in someone to start in front of him. Yet, O'Brien annointed him starter in training camp and gave him all the first team reps. Opening week was a disaster. O'Brien had to suspect this. Deshaun looked so good, not because of O'Brien, but because Deshaun is that good. Savage in his last two games looks like a rookie. He locks onto his receivers and holds the ball too long. Where is the coaching? Or the willingness to get rid of him if he sucks. Savage is not only not a starter, he is a bad back-up QB.

I don't think by any stretch, O'Brien is the worst coach out there, I just don't think he is a winning coach. He has benefited from an extremely week AFC South to go 9-7 in each of his first 3 years. He is 14-4 against the AFC south and 13-17 against everyone else. He has had a defense that was ranked in the top 3 in yards allowed the last two year, while his offense has not finished in the top half of the league in yards gained in all 3 seasons. He is an offensive coach. He stinks at clock management and is too arrogant to admit it. Against Indy, two weeks ago, with 1:30 left in the first half and Indy in their own territory with the ball, he called a defensive timeout on 2nd and 1, and then on the next play, after Indy got a first down, he called timeout again. He basically gave Indy 5 timeouts at the end of the first half.

Again, not the worst coach, but in my mind, not the answer. Move on to someone else. And Rick Smith can go, too (even though I know Bob McNair won't fire him).

 
I would say Hue Jackson has moved above McAdoo for first to be canned. Jack Del Rio and Jason Garrett’s seat are also getting very hot. Elway also came out with strong words against the Broncos players. I don’t think it’s a guarantee Joseph survives the season, especially if he’s already had his last win for the year.  

 
Aaron Rodgers might as well get paid to coach the Packers too.  Never seen a worse Packers team than I saw yesterday.    I went to the game, what a waste of money.  

 
I would say Hue Jackson has moved above McAdoo for first to be canned. Jack Del Rio and Jason Garrett’s seat are also getting very hot. Elway also came out with strong words against the Broncos players. I don’t think it’s a guarantee Joseph survives the season, especially if he’s already had his last win for the year.  
I think I'd put Pagano between McAdoo JDR in those ratings 

 
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I think you did a great job with the tiers. The only one I have any issue with is John Fox. 

I hate his conservative calls as much as the next guy, but I don’t think he’s doing a bad job with that team. Theyre clearly rebuilding and I’m not sure that 3 wins is underachieving with that roster. Throw in a decent track record of winning and I don’t know about Chicago firing him yet. 

Like I said in my other post, I’d move Gase up a tier. By almost any metric, the Dolphins are 1 of the 2 worst teams in the league. He had no clue how to use his running back and traded him for very little. He has lots of weapons on both sides of the ball and they just look awful at everything. They get penalized like crazy. Ultimately, the Tannehill excuse may buy him another season but Cutler/Moore is not so bad at QB that they should be this bad. 

 
Like I said in my other post, I’d move Gase up a tier. By almost any metric, the Dolphins are 1 of the 2 worst teams in the league. He had no clue how to use his running back and traded him for very little. He has lots of weapons on both sides of the ball and they just look awful at everything. They get penalized like crazy. Ultimately, the Tannehill excuse may buy him another season but Cutler/Moore is not so bad at QB that they should be this bad. 
Gase seems like a really smart guy that got promoted too soon. As you mention, that whole organization has problems. OL  coach doing coke on camera, Timmons going AWOL, and the biggest problem seems to be the defense looks old. 

Gase and McAdoo are probably better OC than HC but I think Gase gets more rope and possibly  a second chance much much sooner.

 
I think you did a great job with the tiers. The only one I have any issue with is John Fox. 

I hate his conservative calls as much as the next guy, but I don’t think he’s doing a bad job with that team. Theyre clearly rebuilding and I’m not sure that 3 wins is underachieving with that roster. Throw in a decent track record of winning and I don’t know about Chicago firing him yet. 

Like I said in my other post, I’d move Gase up a tier. By almost any metric, the Dolphins are 1 of the 2 worst teams in the league. He had no clue how to use his running back and traded him for very little. He has lots of weapons on both sides of the ball and they just look awful at everything. They get penalized like crazy. Ultimately, the Tannehill excuse may buy him another season but Cutler/Moore is not so bad at QB that they should be this bad. 
No Fox is terrible. Watch any game or go to the team thread. The homers will tell you how bad it is.

 
Dropped off: Mike McCarthy

Andy Reid and Jim Caldwell added to heating up. I really like Reid so it would shock me if KC went that direction but they have taken a nose dive.

Vance Joseph moved up to the hot seat and I can’t imagine he isn’t on fire with another pathetic Broncos loss. They are a dumpster fire right now. 

Dirk Koetter moves into the on fire range as the Buccaneers look terrible in all facets. 

Surprised every team in the league is holding on so tightly this year. Some of these coaches are way out of their element.

***As I post this Jerry Reese has been fired. Have to imagine McAdoo is next but they may let the next GM decide.***

 
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Vance Joseph has to be near the top now.    The Broncos are a rudderless, leaderless ship.   I've been a Raider fan for over 40 years, and I've NEVER seen a Broncos team this bad. 

They lost to a Dolphins team that hadn't won in 6 weeks and had given up an AVERAGE of 36 points in that timeframe.   Multiple picks by Siemen, fumbling in the end zone by their "punt returner", and not even trying on defense.   They got a Delay of Game on a Kickoff!!     

And then Adam Gase flips John Elway a "double barreled bird " and kicks and recovers an onside kick leading 33-9.   Like the Iron Sheik says, "Break that back and make them HUMBLE!!"

 
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