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2020 MLB Spring Training (4 Viewers)

The Detroit Tigers needed power, so they're bringing in two free agents -- infielders Jonathan Schoop and C.J. Cron -- who played for a Minnesota Twins team that set a major league record for home runs last season.

Both one-year deals were for $6.1 million, a source told ESPN's Jeff Passan on Saturday.

 
Lots of smaller names signing.  But still 8 of the top 30 out there.

#5 Josh Donaldson
#8 Nicolas Catellanos
#9 Hyun-Jin Ryu
#11 Marcell Ozuna
#14 Dallas Keuchel
#22 Will Harris
#25 Corey Dickerson
#28 Daniel Hudson
Dallas Keuchel signed with Chicago White Sox

 
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That seems like a big deal for Keuchel.  Also, Ryu to the Blue Jays.  I really thought the Phils were going to sign him.  

I hate to say this, but if Didi and Wheeler are the only two additions to the Phillies roster this offseason, we ain't going to the playoffs again.

 
Nice to see the Jays at least trying. Surprised anyone like Ryu would want to pitch in the AL East but glad he's coming north.  Maybe the Jays can compete for the playoffs in 2021 before losing Vlad.

 
Nice to see the Jays at least trying. Surprised anyone like Ryu would want to pitch in the AL East but glad he's coming north.  Maybe the Jays can compete for the playoffs in 2021 before losing Vlad.
Jays have an awesome core.  Remind me a little of the 2016 Astros right now.

 
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That seems like a big deal for Keuchel.  Also, Ryu to the Blue Jays.  I really thought the Phils were going to sign him.  

I hate to say this, but if Didi and Wheeler are the only two additions to the Phillies roster this offseason, we ain't going to the playoffs again.
I'm okay with the White Sox and the 3-year deal. Prefer it over the Ryu for 4-years. It allows the Sox to hold off on rushing Kopech and Rodon. Combined with the Gio signing for their #5 SP spot and Grandal's framing ability behind the plate, Chicago's pitching is going to be a lot stronger than it was last year. Of course outside of Giolito for most of the season and Nova and Lopez for parts of the season, there wasn't much to highlight. 

3B Yoan Moncada is going to be a perennial All-Star and MVP candidate soon.
SS Tim Anderson won the batting title last year.
1B Jose Abreu won the RBI title last year. 
LF Eloy Jimenez with 31 dongs as a rookie.
CF Luis Robert and 2B Nick Madrigal are going to showing up in the bigs sooner, rather than later. Maybe by June?

I think 90-92 wins can take the AL Central this year. The Royals and Tigers are going to be awful and it looks like the Indians are going to struggle, especially if they find a suitor for Lindor. The Twins only have 3 viable SP currently and haven't made any sort of splash so far this year. Maybe Donaldson? Can't see the five 30-dinger hitters happening again. 

I'm cautiously optimistic about the 2020 White Sox chances of challenging for a WC spot. A lot has to go right for that to happen but I'm looking forward to watching it, just as I have been watching these young guys develop over the past couple of years.

Would love to see Edgar Encarnacion get signed as a righy DH. And another bullpen arm. 

 
I like where the White Sox are at and their future seems bright, but they'll regret the Keuchel deal.  :X   At least Ryu will be good when he's healthy.

 
Just saw that the White Sox have opened contract extension talks with Luis Robert for 8-year, $80m-$90m range. Trying to lock him up now so we can get him on the opening day roster and secure him for years to come in a White Sox uniform before even taking on MLB at bat. 

It's always a risk (they did it with Eloy Jimenez last year to get him in the bigs without giving up a year of service time) but I'm glad they are looking at this option. 

Would love to see the same for Madrigal for the same reason...

Also saw that they are still in the running for Castellanos. I like the bat, not the glove. 

 
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Not that he wouldn't be a great additional, but more pitching is what they need to get over the post season hump.  Losing Ryu set them further back.
Ryu will be 33 and while coming off his best season, he has only passed 160 innings once in the past 5 seasons and only twice since he joined LA and never had more then 14 wins.  Is he worth $20m/year?  

Dodgers do need pitching, but at that price and age?  I think they can find a cheaper 33/4 pitcher.  With Urias, May Gonsolin they may have his replacement already.

I also hope the trade talk is more then just talk.  But doubtful.  

 
18 FA's left from the Top 50

1-10 = 2 left
11-20 = 1 left
21-30 = 3 left
31-40 = 6 left
41-50 = 6 left and one of those got arrested last weekend.  (I'm looking at you, Rich Hill.)

The cupboard is starting to go bare.  Sounds like the Astros are done.  Phils still have some rumors going that they are looking for another SP.  I would assume they'd have to look at a trade, but it would have to be a middle of the road guy because I don't think they have much to offer in a trade other than paying other people's debts off.  Missing out on Hamels seems like a huge swing and a miss at this point. 

 
18 FA's left from the Top 50

1-10 = 2 left
11-20 = 1 left
21-30 = 3 left
31-40 = 6 left
41-50 = 6 left and one of those got arrested last weekend.  (I'm looking at you, Rich Hill.)

The cupboard is starting to go bare.  Sounds like the Astros are done.  Phils still have some rumors going that they are looking for another SP.  I would assume they'd have to look at a trade, but it would have to be a middle of the road guy because I don't think they have much to offer in a trade other than paying other people's debts off.  Missing out on Hamels seems like a huge swing and a miss at this point. 
Want Happ back? 

 
I wouldn't mind him.  He was great on the Phils and terrible on the Astros.  But I think that's the type of pitcher they'll end up getting if they get one via trade.
Could see the Yankees taking little back in return to get a good chunk of his $ off the books. 

 
I wouldn't even mind if the Phils took a flier on Matt Harvey.  His value is low and I think he might still have a little something, even if it's just eating up innings from the bullpen.

 
White Sox offseason so far:

Yasmani Grandal C - 4 years, $73m
Gio Gonzalez LHP - 1 year, $5m
Dallas Keuchel LHP-  3 years, $55m
Edwin Encarnacion DH - 1 year, $12m
Nomar Mazara OF

Still hearing about something more, potentially Yasiel Puig for RF. I'm assuming they are going to look at 1-year deals so they can make a run at Betts/Springer after this season.

It's nice to be excited about the White Sox in December. That hasn't happened in a loooooooong time....

Thanks for shooting the lock off your wallet Jerry!

 
White Sox offseason so far:

Yasmani Grandal C - 4 years, $73m
Gio Gonzalez LHP - 1 year, $5m
Dallas Keuchel LHP-  3 years, $55m
Edwin Encarnacion DH - 1 year, $12m
Nomar Mazara OF

Still hearing about something more, potentially Yasiel Puig for RF. I'm assuming they are going to look at 1-year deals so they can make a run at Betts/Springer after this season.

It's nice to be excited about the White Sox in December. That hasn't happened in a loooooooong time....

Thanks for shooting the lock off your wallet Jerry!
I feel like they have as good a chance to be an awesome team as they do to be a team like the Marlins when they opened their new park b

 
Looks like the Reds are going to win the Shogo Akiyama sweepstakes.
It's always tough to project stats from NPB to MLB but Akiyama has been among the league leaders in OPS the past three years.  He'll be 32 in April so his slight decline in 2018 stats may be a yellow flag.  A three year deal for $6-7M AAV seems like decent risk/reward especially since there was no posting fee.

The Reds' offense won't scare anyone unless you're really bullish on Aristides Aquino but they've improved themselves this off-season.

 
Looks like the Reds are going to win the Shogo Akiyama sweepstakes.
Yup.  As  a Cards fan I'd like to ridicule the Reds.  Not gonna do it.  They had excellent pitching last year and the emergence of Suarez plus Votto gives them a nice 1-2 punch in the middle.  Add in Moustakas and they are beginning to look capable of contending.  I do think Akiyama is a bit risky though.  The foot injury is one thing.  Maybe nothing but with speed guys always a concern.  His age another at 31 you never know where the decline will start.  And coming from japanese baseball there might be some drop off.

If I'm a Reds fan I like the move.  but not without risk.  Kind of like the Kim signing bt STL.  Not a huge thing but upside in it.

 
Dude is going to hit 100 homers this year.
Even if he hits .250 with 25 dingers I'll be happy. He covers a lot of ground as an outfielder and has a cannon for an arm. It would cost $8 to $10 million to get a free agent capable of producing that an offense and provide that kind of defense too. If hits even better than that, then he's a potential all star like Jay Bruce was.

That said, I wouldn't be surprised to see him hitting .175 by June. 

 
White Sox offseason so far:

Yasmani Grandal C - 4 years, $73m
Gio Gonzalez LHP - 1 year, $5m
Dallas Keuchel LHP-  3 years, $55m
Edwin Encarnacion DH - 1 year, $12m
Nomar Mazara OF

Still hearing about something more, potentially Yasiel Puig for RF. I'm assuming they are going to look at 1-year deals so they can make a run at Betts/Springer after this season.

It's nice to be excited about the White Sox in December. That hasn't happened in a loooooooong time....

Thanks for shooting the lock off your wallet Jerry!
Most recent reports have the White Sox out on Puig, but focusing now on adding 1-2 relief pitchers. If they follow the pattern so far this off-season, I would expect shorter term deals, probably 1-2 types.

I doubt they are serious suitors for Betts/Springer, but they have been known to be aggressive in the past and will have money to spend. I would expect a focus on locking up their younger core to longer term deals as soon as they wrap up their veterans middle relievers.

Right now, the White Sox are at $120M for next season which is still below average (just slightly) so there is more to spend.

The team does look much improved on paper heading into next season, but we have seen free agency not always work out and they are spending on some older veterans (post 30, which has been frowned up in the analytics world).

We'll see, but they have a ton of young talent already up and more on the way.

 
It's always tough to project stats from NPB to MLB but Akiyama has been among the league leaders in OPS the past three years.  He'll be 32 in April so his slight decline in 2018 stats may be a yellow flag.  A three year deal for $6-7M AAV seems like decent risk/reward especially since there was no posting fee.

The Reds' offense won't scare anyone unless you're really bullish on Aristides Aquino but they've improved themselves this off-season.
Reds are probably the best team in the Central right now.  They've made some great moves.  And while Shogo isn't a young star, he's durable as all get out.  Plus, Yuli Gurriel was not a young kid when the Astros got him and he did fairly well.  Same with Ichiro.

Reds pitching staff is very underrated.  

And I'm saying all of this as someone who can't stand the Reds.

 
Reds are probably the best team in the Central right now.  They've made some great moves.  And while Shogo isn't a young star, he's durable as all get out.  Plus, Yuli Gurriel was not a young kid when the Astros got him and he did fairly well.  Same with Ichiro.

Reds pitching staff is very underrated.  

And I'm saying all of this as someone who can't stand the Reds.
I like Cincinnati's off-season so far but they were still a 75 win team last season.   Suarez, Aquino and Gray are regression candidates and Votto's ability to stay healthy at age 36 is a question mark.  Unlike the White Sox, they don't have much talent down on the farm. 

With the three teams above them in the Central treading water, the division is shaping up as a battle but it'll take 90 wins to take it.  I think the Reds still have some work to do to get there.

 
I like Cincinnati's off-season so far but they were still a 75 win team last season.   Suarez, Aquino and Gray are regression candidates and Votto's ability to stay healthy at age 36 is a question mark.  Unlike the White Sox, they don't have much talent down on the farm. 

With the three teams above them in the Central treading water, the division is shaping up as a battle but it'll take 90 wins to take it.  I think the Reds still have some work to do to get there.
True, but their win total was well below their pythagorean W-L, which suggests they suffered more than their fair share of bad luck loses last year, which as a fan I can confirm. 

Suarez could regress, but at age 28 he could also be just hitting his prime. And even if he does regress, his salary is still a bargain for even regressed production.

Aquino only had one month where he had an impact. In September his OPS was around .600. Even if he heads back to AAA, it's only 1/6th of an impact player they lose from last year. 

Gray will only be 30, and is done trying to add another pitch to his repertoire, which is what caused his mid-career troubles. 

Votto's OPS was only .768 last year. He's already regressed, and if he can't stay healthy it's not hard for the Reds to replace his current production in the lineup. 

On the positive, the  hope that Winker would become an every day player is over. You'll probably never see him start against another lefty ever again. He does however have a career OPS against righties over .900. 

The same holds true for Ervin. Given how many righties there are, you may see him start against one occasionally, but that's where he struggles. On the other hand, he has a career OPS against lefities over .900. 

The planned platoon in left of Winker and Ervin could result in the reds getting .850+ OPS out of left field. 

And Nick Senzel has a ton of upside. Not only will he likely contribute more offensively in 2020, but with the addition of Shogo, he may end up being a valuable utility player. He can backup Shogo in center, and play center while Shogo plays right to backup Aquino, play 2nd to backup Moose, play 3rd to backup Suarez (or play 2nd while Moose plays 3rd), and play 2nd while Moose plays 1st to backup Votto (which may happen a lot given as you point out Votto may not stay healthy). In fact, Senzel's OPS may even be better than Votto's OPS this year, which would improve the offense when Votto is out. But given how much Votto makes, he's going to play whenever he can. 

The Reds offensive issues come down to Galvis at short and Barnhart at C. While that's two significant issues, last year it was three. It was Galvis at 2nd (and Dietrich/Peraza before him), Barnhart at C, and Iglesias at SS. While Iglesias had a decent BA and a career high in HRs, he still only contributed a .724 OPS. Mouse is replacing that with an .845. 

They should have won 80 games last year according to pythagorean W-L, and with the changes they've made there seems to be more potential for improvement than expected regression. I don't know if I'd call them the central division favorite, but I think 80+ wins is more than a realistic expectation.  

 
Reds are probably the best team in the Central right now.  They've made some great moves.  And while Shogo isn't a young star, he's durable as all get out.  Plus, Yuli Gurriel was not a young kid when the Astros got him and he did fairly well.  Same with Ichiro.

Reds pitching staff is very underrated.  

And I'm saying all of this as someone who can't stand the Reds.
Anyone that didn't notice how good the Reds pitching was last year wasn't paying attention.  They have some really good arms.  Especially when you consider they pitch in a band box stadium.

 
Anyone that didn't notice how good the Reds pitching was last year wasn't paying attention.  They have some really good arms.  Especially when you consider they pitch in a band box stadium.
The bats are the issue.  Cincinnati was near the bottom of the NL in runs scored and OPS+.   Peraza to Moustakas at 2B is a big offensive upgrade.  Puig and Dietrich to Akiyama is a big question mark.  They have the players to piece together some interesting looking OF platoons but it's harder to project two or three players than one.

 
Anyone that didn't notice how good the Reds pitching was last year wasn't paying attention.  They have some really good arms.  Especially when you consider they pitch in a band box stadium.
Not sure if they are the best team in the division, but they are now a legitimate factor in that division. Outside of Pittsburgh, I think anyone can win that division. Very competitive.

 
The bats are the issue.  Cincinnati was near the bottom of the NL in runs scored and OPS+.   Peraza to Moustakas at 2B is a big offensive upgrade.  Puig and Dietrich to Akiyama is a big question mark.  They have the players to piece together some interesting looking OF platoons but it's harder to project two or three players than one.
Very similar to the Cards.  If the Reds sign Ozuna (who I am not crazy about returning to STL) it does make them look serious.  But do they want that commitment to a guy who has been just a little better than average other than one year in his career?

 
Very similar to the Cards.  If the Reds sign Ozuna (who I am not crazy about returning to STL) it does make them look serious.  But do they want that commitment to a guy who has been just a little better than average other than one year in his career?
As a fan I hope the Reds don't sign Ozuna. Winker has a .900+ career OPS against RHPs, and Erivn has a .900+ career OPS against LHPs. Let them platoon in LF and they would likely produce a combined .300 BA with 25 to 30 HRs and an .850+ OPS at significantly less salary than what it would cost to get Ozuna.

 
@FoolishBB: Lenny Dykstra reached base safely 2020 times in his career. I regret to inform you all that 2020 is the year of Lenny Dykstra. May God have mercy on us all.

 
As a fan I hope the Reds don't sign Ozuna. Winker has a .900+ career OPS against RHPs, and Erivn has a .900+ career OPS against LHPs. Let them platoon in LF and they would likely produce a combined .300 BA with 25 to 30 HRs and an .850+ OPS at significantly less salary than what it would cost to get Ozuna.
Yeah it baffles me when teams don't employ the platoon more often.  It can be very productive and keeps the bench guy sharper.  For some reason team seem to value an every day player higher.  I can see not platooning more than one position (only have a 26 man roster) but whatever.

 
@FoolishBB: Lenny Dykstra reached base safely 2020 times in his career. I regret to inform you all that 2020 is the year of Lenny Dykstra. May God have mercy on us all.
He was one of my favorite players growing up.  Back then, you pretty much only knew of pro athletes from what you saw on the field.  And I thought he was awesome.  I remember defending some of his dumber actions early on, thinking that the guy just made a bad decision.  Then it became obvious that he was not a good person.  Even though I was in my 20's, it was kind of soul crushing.  Although I never met him, it was kind of my first experience with "Don't ever meet your heroes." :(

 
Yeah Nails had/has issues.  Same as Rose.  Both have a darker side.  I did get to meet guy hero as a kid and there was no damage done to my idols reputation then or ever.

Stan the man.

 
Yeah Nails had/has issues.  Same as Rose.  Both have a darker side.  I did get to meet guy hero as a kid and there was no damage done to my idols reputation then or ever.

Stan the man.
I met Steve Carlton and it was the only time I was ever star struck.  Could barely talk.  Normally, celebrities don't impress me.  But to this day, my wife cracks up if she thinks about the time I met him.  She says it's one of the few times where she saw me not talking. :lol:

 
I met Steve Carlton and it was the only time I was ever star struck.  Could barely talk.  Normally, celebrities don't impress me.  But to this day, my wife cracks up if she thinks about the time I met him.  She says it's one of the few times where she saw me not talking. :lol:
Steve Carlton wouldn’t give me an autograph when I was a kid. 

 
Musial came to a father son cub scout dinner when I was about 7-8.  I still have no idea what was in it for him.  I don't think he was paid and the food was probably bad.  But he came and sat at the head of the table.  I was awestruck.  After dinner he is signing autographs and I'm just sitting there.  My dad says "go get an autograph".  I 'm like oh he won't give me one.  He laughs and says he'd giving everyone else one why not you?

I lost the autograph which I don't care about (was probably on a paper dinner plateZ) but the memory is forever.  

And I have't been in STL since 1970 but am still a die hard Cards fan.  

 
He was one of my favorite players growing up.  Back then, you pretty much only knew of pro athletes from what you saw on the field.  And I thought he was awesome.  I remember defending some of his dumber actions early on, thinking that the guy just made a bad decision.  Then it became obvious that he was not a good person.  Even though I was in my 20's, it was kind of soul crushing.  Although I never met him, it was kind of my first experience with "Don't ever meet your heroes." :(
Met Steve Garvey when I was a kid. Boy, was he a total ****.

 
He was one of my favorite players growing up.  Back then, you pretty much only knew of pro athletes from what you saw on the field.  And I thought he was awesome.  I remember defending some of his dumber actions early on, thinking that the guy just made a bad decision.  Then it became obvious that he was not a good person.  Even though I was in my 20's, it was kind of soul crushing.  Although I never met him, it was kind of my first experience with "Don't ever meet your heroes." :(
Dykstra was one of mine too.  I have a distinct memory of watching on TV when the Mets traded him and McDowell for Juan Samuel back when I was kid, and being pretty bummed about it (I think the trade was announced during a Kiner's Korner after an afternoon game between the Mets and Phillies that I was watching).

 
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I was not a fan of Chris Sabo, but I was sitting at a bar in Cincinnati.  I think it was called the Village Tavern in Montgomery.  Anyway, it was one of my regular spots when I was 21.  Sitting with my buddy at the bar and Sabo walks in and sits next to me.  There were probably about 5 total customers in the bar at the time.  I just casually, looked over at him and said something like, "Hey.  You're Chris Sabo, aren't you?"  And without looking my way he said something like, "Sorry, champ.  I'm not giving out autographs while I'm on my time."  I turned to my buddy and said, "This washed up has-been thinks I want his autograph."  He then got up and walked out.  I would see him from time to time there.  Guess he lived close.  But what a doosh.

 

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