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the only person with carte blanche, is gruden.
ie: peterman and witten. wasted roster spots. gruden guys
ie: peterman and witten. wasted roster spots. gruden guys
The Bowden draft selection was horrible. Tossing him away a few months later was an even worse move. Thinking back to the last draft is really depressing.spotrac.com very cool website. tons of info on salaries. and it lets you play GM. pretty fun.
did you know we are paying bowden 700k next year? and pj hall 300k. i did not ouch
I don't know why you are harping on one pick and throwing the babies out with that bathwater.The Bowden draft selection was horrible. Tossing him away a few months later was an even worse move. Thinking back to the last draft is really depressing.
Confetti is no laughing matter! Think about the birds and environment!I swear, we could win the Superbowl and some of you guys would complain that the confetti was cut too large.
You can’t win with my Bowden argument. If he sucks, why did aGruden draft him in the third round? If he turns into a decent player, why did Gruden discard him so fast? My biggest problem with drafting Bowden is that the Raiders drafted 3 WRs in the first three rounds and so far, none of them look like muchI don't know why you are harping on one pick and throwing the babies out with that bathwater.
It's not like Bowden is all of the sudden a super star, and I think Ruggs will be very serviceable, we saw promising things from Arnette and even Simpson, we still have to see what we have in Edwards, Muse, and Robertson.
I'm willing to have waaaaaay more patience than that because after 40 years of watching football, I know that stars aren't made overnight. Believe it or not, rookies can improve over their first year performance.
Wasn't too long ago that that expectation was the rule.
I swear, we could win the Superbowl and some of you guys would complain that the confetti was cut too large.
Are you counting Bowden as the 3rd WR?You can’t win with my Bowden argument. If he sucks, why did aGruden draft him in the third round? If he turns into a decent player, why did Gruden discard him so fast? My biggest problem with drafting Bowden is that the Raiders drafted 3 WRs in the first three rounds and so far, none of them look like much
Tom, when the Raiders win the SB, I will send you enough confetti to fill your garage. You can even choose the size of the confetti.
Right now? He lines up in a lot of different spots for Miami. I'd designate him as "utility" or "Swiss Army Knife."What position do you think Bowden plays?
They took 3 wrs, with the first 4 picks last year. The NFL lists him as a wr.
I don’t really care that they dumped him. It looks bad. But, so did taking 3 wrs in the first 4 picks.
Hopefully this year’s draft, will make more sense, based on the team needs. That’s up to Gruden.
I’ll take the confetti however it comes. And i’ll Buy the first round!
wish I had your outlook. Seriously.Right now? He lines up in a lot of different spots for Miami. I'd designate him as "utility" or "Swiss Army Knife."
But he was officially drafted at the RB position for the Raiders.
Second round is on me, gb.
I do my best!
I think the y mean something like this to catch your eye when scanning the thread topics:I do my best!
Seriously though, I have no clue what "with asterisks" means. Like just for emphasis add some random *** to it? Or can I cuss and the language filter will kick in? Because that would be sweet.
Official 2021 Las Vegas Raiders thread **** the Chiefs
Official 2021 Las Vegas Raiders thread **** the Chargers
Official 2021 Las Vegas Raiders thread **** the Donkeys
Official 2021 Las Vegas Raiders thread **** Stinkin' Ref's logic
you brought me back in.....may not like the logic....but pretty much everything I said turned out to be spot on....nice win in week 5....nothing more really....I agree with most of the posts in here lately that the Raiders have a ton to work on still....and a lot of questions to be answered....always next yearHankmoody said:I do my best!
Seriously though, I have no clue what "with asterisks" means. Like just for emphasis add some random *** to it? Or can I cuss and the language filter will kick in? Because that would be sweet.
Official 2021 Las Vegas Raiders thread **** the Chiefs
Official 2021 Las Vegas Raiders thread **** the Chargers
Official 2021 Las Vegas Raiders thread **** the Donkeys
Official 2021 Las Vegas Raiders thread **** Stinkin' Ref's logic
Stompin' Tom Connors said:
How about that?joey said:I think the y mean something like this to catch your eye when scanning the thread topics:
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(Especially with the new board's tiny stars that are hard to see sometimes)
2 cents...
That. F'n. Rocks.How about that?
Amy Trask is one of those unheralded executives that should be talked about more. She was an amazing FO person to have, and damned good at what she did. Another thing that doesn't get a lot of talk was Al helping pave the way for women executives as much as he did for minority coaches and executives as well.Ex-Raiders executive Amy Trask explains how she almost changed NFL and Patriots history
The NFL coaching carousel is in full swing, and the New England Patriots are also somewhat involved: inside linebackers coach Jerod Mayo is expected to interview for the Philadelphia Eagles’ vacant head coaching position. The Patriots themselves, meanwhile, did not have to fill that most important role on their staff in quite some time.
Bill Belichick took over the job in 2000, and since then has turned the organization from an afterthought into the lone dynasty of the salary cap era — winning six Super Bowls along the way and earning himself a future spot in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. History, however, could have gone in a drastically different direction had one particular coaching search ended in another way back in 1998.
Back then, the Oakland Raiders were looking for a new head coach after firing head coach Joe Bugel following a 4-12 season. Thus, Raiders owner Al Davis embarked on a coaching while assisted by chief executive Amy Trask.
Earlier this week, Trask appeared on the SB Nation NFL Show to talk about the process of looking for new head coaches. She also told an anecdote about that 1998 offseason, when she almost helped change the course of the NFL forever.
“In my almost 30 years with the team, Al only included me in one coaching search,” Trask said. “One time in almost 30 years, and, by the way, I think we know he hired a lot of coaches. One of times he allowed me in, he invited me to meet all the candidates, and I recommended one and he didn’t hire him.”
That coach later led the Patriots to their unprecedented run of success.
“I recommended that he hired Bill Belichick,” continued Trask. “He did not hire Bill, he went on to hire Jon Gruden, who also... Very good coach, did a very good job with the team, I’m not suggesting otherwise, but I recommended Bill. And then Bill went on to have the tremendous success that we’ve seen him have and I used to smile ear-to-ear when Al would periodically say to me, ‘Kid, you know how to pick a coach.’”
Belichick entered that interview coming off his first season as the New York Jets’ defensive coordinator, and later spent two more season with the organization before jumping ship amidst a tumultuous 2000 offseason. The rest is history, but he still recalled the interview with the Raiders ahead of a regular season game in Oakland in 2011.
“He’s a great mind,” Belichick said at the time. “It was unlike any other interview I’ve ever had with an owner because he was in in-depth, his interview was so in-depth, really about football, about Xs-and-Os and strategy and use of personnel and acquisition of — all the things really that a coach would want to talk about.
“He was asking a lot of questions about what we did defensively. You kind of don’t want to give too much information there because you know, he’s running the defense. He wasn’t really too interested in talking about offensive football.”
Davis went on to hire Jon Gruden, who led the team to a 38-26 record in four seasons before being traded to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 2002. One has to wonder how the Raiders, and especially the Patriots, would have fared had Al Davis listened to Trask in 1998 and went with Belichick instead — and how this year’s coaching hires will shape the league for years to come.
Who is that kind of DC now?Big Belly and Big Al never would've co-existed. It would've been another Cleveland situation, most likely.
As for Bradley, I am unimpressed by his system and track record. Hope I'm wrong, but I would've much preferred a creative/innovative type. This league is multiple levels beyond rushing with the DL only. Unless you have the recent vintage Superbowl Giants front, that system is antiquated and ineffective. What the Colts and Cardinals are doing is the future - i.e. exotic pressures where the OL gets confused regularly about who is coming and whom to block. Not that their D's are perfect, but you can hide a lot of flaws when you get pressure and they get pressure. Bradley smells like a dinosaur by comparison. JMHO. Again, I hope I am wrong.
...and because it can't be any worse.I think the defense will be better just because guys will know their assignments...
Tom, I'll defer to you cuz on this because I know you don't miss a game but he didn't look like a huge blitz guy to me. Did a quick search and I found this from an October 23, 2020 article:Remember that Guenther was a huge blitz guy.
Haha, ICON beat me to it. I really gotta read all the posts I haven't seen before I post. I mean who likes re-runs...I don't recall Guenther blitzing that much. In looking, Raiders were 26th in percentage of downs they blitzed on at 23.5% last year. Chargers were last at 16.3%.
2019 Raiders were second to last and Chargers were last in blitz percentage.
I doubt DC. Like most he will either get a shot with a positional coach or get a gig in college.Re: Bradley. I'm always willing to give anybody a chance but based on the posts from far more knowledgeable observers than me this smacks of "meet the new boss, same as the old boss." I hope I'm wrong. I guess we'll know in three years.
And this aside...I know a lot of people who didn't like the McKenzie era use as ammunition the fact he never got another GM job. Does anybody think Guenther will get another DC job in the NFL? He's only 49.
You and @ICON211 have great points -- I wasn't really talking about the rate of the Raiders D blitz YoY or comparative to the rest of the league. It was great data you both brought up and appreciate the insight.Tom, I'll defer to you cuz on this because I know you don't miss a game but he didn't look like a huge blitz guy to me. Did a quick search and I found this from an October 23, 2020 article:
"Some have suggested that defensive coordinator Paul Guenther should dial up more blitzes, but he is actually calling more blitzes that he did a year ago, according to Pro Football Reference. In 2019, the Raiders blitzed only 17.5% of the time, which was the second-lowest rate in the league. This year, they are blitzing 23.1% of the time...the Raiders could blitz more (the Steelers and Ravens both blitz more than 45% of the time), but Guenther’s philosophy has never been one that involves excessive blitzing."
https://www.raidersbeat.com/the-raiders-are-blitzing-at-a-higher-rate-than-2019-but-still-not-doing-it-very-often/
And that was true. Guenther's playbooks were chock full of designs for coming at the QB in a multiple of ways, with 14 different D-line fronts, 14 stunts and twists and 15 coverage approaches -- and specifically 20 different blitzes out of 4-down fronts, 26 out of the double-A, and 19 out of odd-man fronts.
It might be he was allowed to seek other positions. I did read somewhere he was looking to bring in a few people of his own.https://www.insidenu.com/2021/1/19/22239142/breaking-northwestern-to-hire-oakland-raiders-db-coach-jim-oneil-as-new-defensive-coordinator
We're being raided for our coaching "talent".
Regarding Gus, I'm hoping for the best but I would have been happier if we would have hired an up and coming minority coach. 1) I think they would connect better with our young players and 2) if that coach goes on to a HC job the Raiders would get 2 3rd round picks. -like SF is getting this year and next. https://jetswire.usatoday.com/2021/01/15/49ers-get-nfl-draft-picks-jets-hire-robert-saleh-head-coach-rooney-rule/
Yup...It might be he was allowed to seek other positions. I did read somewhere he was looking to bring in a few people of his own.
Missed it.Smith and milius were announced the same day Bradley was hired.
We've all been uber patient. It's time Gruden earned his $10 million a year or whatever it is. I wrote up a long spiel this weekend but have condensed it to this:...this next season can't be an incremental improvement year of 9 wins. We HAVE to win 10 or more games AND be a wildcard team -- at the very least. No excuses, no settling for less. If we can't do that with the explosive offense we already are, and shore up our defensive needs to help our offense win games, then our window starts closing shut fast.
I have been patient as we rebuild and have liked in general what I've seen, but it's now or never time.
Count me as not being Uber patient. My patience ran out around week 14 of the season. It was apparent that Gruden failed miserably. The lack of talent on the field was obvious.We've all been uber patient. It's time Gruden earned his $10 million a year or whatever it is. I wrote up a long spiel this weekend but have condensed it to this:The Raiders were 6-10 when Gruden came on board. Does anybody know the record Reid inherited when he came on board in 2013? A far cry from 6-10. The Chiefs were so bad they had the first pick in the draft in Reid's first year. They were 2-14 bad. They drafted a solid tackle with the first pick (reminiscent of Kolton Miller) and a kid named Kelce at the top of the third round.
Is this some sort of farewell?! Say it isn't so STC!Wishing you all the very best going forward -- really enjoyed the camaraderie, intelligent thought, awesome discourse, and the passion of the Nation that's represented here by you all. Cheers.
I hope not! Stompin is one of the better posters on this board.Is this some sort of farewell?! Say it isn't so STC!
Great observation! You really see quality football with these teams, not teams like the Raiders (and many others) that run hot and cold. And I forgot what good coaching was like because I haven't seen it in so long. LaFleur and Stefanski are outstanding...the way Gruden used to be.You must have talent to win in the NFL. When you compare the Raiders to the four teams that played yesterday, it is obvious that the Raiders have a long way to go. The Raiders have many holes to fill and won’t have the cap space to fill many of those holes through FA and don’t have extra draft picks this year. The worst part is that the Raiders don’t have the right people in place to bring in the talent.